Re: Old Timers


HawkiDoug <hawkidoug@...>
 

Looks and sounds like an interesting bird. If you are working with Jeff L., you are in good hands. Hope to see you and the plane at at fly-in some time.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: "REBECCA SIMPSON" <rebeccaandtad_simpson@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 1:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Old Timers


Doug,
I have added an album to the list photo section named Phoenix N1007P.
Here is a hear say history compiled from POH, Previous owners, general input and located in the limited documentation I have on it. (can't locate the builder)

It was built in 1986 From Modified Dragonfly Plans . Modifications were made to improve safety including LS-1 canard and reflexor from the Q2 aircraft to improve handling in contamination, tricycle gear and extended canard 26' to improve ground handling and wing load while reducing stall speed similar to a Cessna.

That said, I have heard a lot from many people that may know it better than I (some good& some bad - I still have not flown it). The previous owner rebuilt it, flew it once and thought it was pitchy and parted it out.I bought all the parts and reassembled it. Jeff LeTempt is working with me for inspection and test flights. Based on the 9 other planes I looked at before buying this one, I would best describe it as a Dfly with an LS1 on steroids.

Glossy print from POH:
Empty weight 1,015
Gross 1,500
Powerplant C90-12F
Prop Sens 60-64
Configuration Tricycle Gear
Fuel 100 LL (2 - 10 gal wing tanks 19.2 usable)
Load Config +3.5 G -1.5G
Va 110
VNE 180
Vr 75
Vx 87
Vy 97
Vno 160
Vc 145
Vbl 135
Vb2 110
Vs 55 (Also states test flight stall was 50 - 52 mph)
consumption 5,6 gph
cross wind component 22 mph
take off roll 1,050
landing roll 700
Wingspan 26'
Chord 38"

From those that have flown it, I have heard things like
"Just like a Grumman AA-1-A"
"Just like a 172"
"Like a 150/152"
I don't think there is a huge difference from other TW in the big picture of things - just seems like a larger tri-gear LS-1.

Cheers,
Tad Simpson
Phoenix N1007P KDEC
Hope to be flying this weekend


HawkiDoug <hawkidoug@...> wrote:
Some answers for Tad.

The failures are on LS1 tail dragger canards. They have the tubular carbon
fiber spar that is failing. It is failing inside the fuselage, so I doubt it
is heat related. The GU canard did not have a carbon fiber spar.

Can you take some photo's of you plane and upload them to the photo's area
of this list for all to see. Generally we don't put "like a Cessna" in the
same sentence with a Q or a DFly. It would be interesting to see what you
have.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
From: "REBECCA SIMPSON" <rebeccaandtad_simpson@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Old Timers


All,

Please forgive as I am new to this and still learning. I did not build but
bought a highly modified TW plane that is said to be a combination of
DF/Q2/Cessna ? It is a trike with an LS1 so I have been watching all posts
on both pages and now have some questions.

1) Has this only happened to LS1 canards ?
2) Has this only been Q200 s ?
3) What is the configuration of the planes with failures (tri or
taildraggers) ?
4) Is the over board Muff heat being dumped just infront of the area
failing ?

On either this page or the Dfly page there was a recent post regarding
paint color and caution based on the foam will deteriate at 180 F so UV
relate heat becomes an issue with dark colors. If this failure is on Q200
s that many have the O235 with an operating oil temp around 212 F could
there be heat damage occuring to the internal foam thereby weaking the
canard interior strength allowing the failure ?

As stated I am new and ignorant on most matters as well as the specifics
of the planes that have had failures. Just some questions based on high
level knowledge - trying to see if there is a correlation that can be
built.

Thanks,
Tad Simpson
N1007P
Still Learning



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