Re: LS1 Canard on Q1?

David J. Gall

Thanks for the update, Peter. Isn't Oz in the Conclusion Islands chain? I've jumped there so many times I think I'm starting to know the place.... Arrgh! :-)

Thanks for making spars. Buy my CD and Leon McAtee's templates and you'd have the Q1 plans, too....

David J. Gall

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Harris" <peterjfharris@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: LS1 Canard on Q1?
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 17:17:20 +1000

David just to let you know I have never been to New Zealand but hope to visit
one day. I am based in Queensland Oz and can supply Q1 spars. I have no Q1
----- Original Message -----
From: David Gall
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: LS1 Canard on Q1?


The Roncz R1145MS airfoil is not a modified LS(1)-0417 airfoil. The
LS(1)-0417 airfoil is 17% thick, the Roncz R1145MS is 20.5% thick and the
GU25(5)11-8 airfoil is 21% thick.

Part of the beauty of the Roncz airfoil is the elevator which requires a
specific hinge location to make it work right for canard applications. As used
on the Long-EZE, the Roncz airfoil is superior. However, adapting it to the
Quickie with the Quickie's tapared canard planform introduces difficulties
with the elevator hinge that the constant-chord Long-EZE canard didn't have.
If you come across the Raptor site (modified Dragonfly) in your researches,
know that Drew messed up the Roncz elevator geometry and has all sorts of
aerodynamic band-aids applied to try to fix it. Do NOT follow that path.
Rocket scientists don't always make good airplane engineers.

The factory Q1 LS1 plans are available in various forms if you look around
for them and spars are supposed to be available from Peter Harris in New

Good luck,

David J. Gall

----- Original Message -----
From: "vurticle1" <ggrant@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: LS1 Canard on Q1?
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 20:45:43 -0000

> Thank you for the name/assistance. Sent a note and hope to get more
> information soon on using the LS1 w/Q1. I am also looking into the
> adaptability of the Roncz canard (modified LS1 if I remember
> correctly) on this project as well. I am in an early stage and have
> lots of homework on this thing.
> --- In Q-LIST@..., Boddicker <trumanst@n...> wrote:
> > on 5/29/05 9:44 PM, vurticle1 at ggrant@s... wrote:
> >
> > > Is anyone aware of a Q1 with the LS1 canard on it, or was this just
> > > installed on the Q2?
> > > > I am starting a new project that is a Q1, but want to install the
> > > canard if this is an option? Was the GU canard as bad on the Q1 as it
> > > was on the Q2 and Dragonfly?
> > > > Regards, > GJG
> > > > > > > > Quickie Builders Association WEB site
> > >
> > > > Terry Crouch, on this list has one. An award winner!!
> > Send him a note.
> >
> > Kevin Boddicker
> > Luana, Iowa
> > Tri Q200 N7868B
> > Building

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