Re: {Disarmed} Re: fire extinguishing system

les shockley <les@...>

I can tell you that I have beat the p___ out of lexan in testing for the race car comunity and you won't do anything bet get a tired arm. Onboard fire systems are the only answer. I choose to carry a ballistic chute (rated for 1500 pounds at a cost of 3500) and bypass the hole senario.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Patillo
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 7:14 PM
Subject: {Disarmed} [Q-LIST] Re: fire extinguishing system


Since Phil Lankford with a "K" is the only Q-Pilot I know of that
survived a serious crash in which he and his wife had gas all over them
and lived to talk about it, I thought he might be a good place to
start. I've talked with Phil at some length and we both agree
installing a crash hammer in the cockpit may create a false sense of
security. Its like pissing in the wind, its kind of fun but doesn't get
you anywhere.

1). You presume you will be conscious enough to use a hammer and 2).
that a crash hammer would even work. Have you ever tried breaking out a
rounded lexan canopy so that you know it works? Has anyone? I'm
convinced this is an area that needs to be addressed NOW by some of our
resident wizards. I love my airplane but I am very concerned about this
negative scenerio. It can happen to anyone regardless of their

I designed my canopy with a simple quick disconnect system that allows
it to be jettisoned in a couple of seconds. This may save me in an
inflight to ground situation like Phil's but does nothing for a landing
that goes bad and inverts the plane quickly with me going unconscious.
Phil said when he was upside down, he unlatched his belt, rolled around
and got his feet on the ground and pushed the plane up and off of him
and Sherry. He didn't feel a crash hammer would have done much good.
Luckily for him, the canopy already ripped off. In fact he was very
happy the canopy was gone.

I believe the problem is serious enough, it's time we collectively came
up with a solution that would be best treated like an AD.

There have simply been to many people burned up in these planes.

Jim Patillo

P.S. I don't express my views much anymore on this site but this one
needs to be addressed and resolved!

--- In Q-LIST@..., larry severson <larry2@...> wrote:
> >if the occupants are trapped
> I have added a crash hammer to my Q bird minimum equipment list. It
> is mounted high above/between the seats.
> Larry Severson
> Fountain Valley, CA 92708
> (714) 968-9852
> larry2@...


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