Re: Worst Landing to Date Today #flight_reports

Bruce Crain

I had a tuff landing today in my RV Corbin.  Must be something in the air!  Set off the Richter scale here in NW Okla!

On Jun 11, 2020, at 5:17 PM, Corbin via <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Great point....I need to get right back out there!  Thanks Jim.

Corbin Ge!ser

On June 11, 2020 at 4:46 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

Corbin, it’s kind of good this happened so early in your transition and you didn’t damage the plane.  So now you will be aware that a Q can kick your butt as soon as you get comfortable and complacent.

Continued success! Get right back on that pony.
N46JP Q200

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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Worst Landing to Date Today
Well, if I had bounced, I might have had opportunity but this just plopped down and stuck.  Since I floated a bit they had to send the plane behind me on go-around east of runway.  So knowing a plane would be above me or off my left wing,  I committed to trying to keep it back on centerline.


On June 11, 2020 at 4:02 PM, Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:

I'm not being critical, but I suggest to people if they bounce it like that, give it full power and go around.  With full power the rudder is effective and you can typically straighten it out pretty easily.

The problem with bouncing it in is the canard breaks on the third bounce.  We've had a number of people prove that.  With full power you might bounce a second time, but not a third.  So it's best to arrest it after the first.

I know it is tempting to try to save the landing, especially with 7000 feet of concrete in front of you.  But I still recommend full power and go around.  With another couple hundred hours, you'll learn to save it (it starts with full power!), but until then just go around.  If nothing else it gives you a little time to think about what went wrong!

If it makes you feel better, I still have a landing like you describe every once in a while, and I often still go around.  I figure I must need the practice, so I might as well do it again!

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF, ~1650 hours over 30 years

On Thu, Jun 11, 2020, 15:43 Corbin via <> wrote:
Well, the flight was great but the landing had tons of room for improvement.  In fact, it was my worst landing in all my 843 hours (only 56 hrs in the Q200 though).  Thought I would share on this quiet afternoon in case  anyone notices anything I am not thinking of that could have contributed.  Hard to do without being there, I know.

I had the reflexor "deployed" as usual and was good'ish on airspeed across the numbers.  Maybe a little fast at 90mph but had 7,000ft of runway to bleed it off.  I had the power out, floated some, and let it settle but didn't realize I was getting the nose a bit high.  Airspeed bled off fast and I plopped it down.  Then was holding on for a wild ride on the rollout since I came down harder than normal.  I was going left of the centerline quickly and it didn't seem to want to go right much with my quick jabs on the right pedal. 

It was acting as if the tailwheel wasn't down...but surely it had to be.  Anyway, as I was going left of centerline at a near 30 degree angle it seemed fast again.  Could have just seemed fast since I wasn't going straight down the runway like normal.  That's the point where I glanced down at the tach and think I saw 850rpm.  Honestly, I am not  sure what  my normal rpm is right after touch down.  Since my hand was still on the throttle, I think I was still holding it all the way out but maybe I pulled the rest of the power out at that point?  I wonder if I had accidentally put some throttle back in when I plopped it down  because it seemed I plopped it down slow and then it darted left.

It sure was frustrating as I slowly got back to centerline and taxied all the way back to the hangar.  Some things I know I did wrong were I definitely didn't fly it all the way to the ground and stalled it a little high by getting nose high to high from the pavement.  But the high RPM or possibility of power still in sure did add to the wild ride.

The short flight before that sure was great though!

Corbin Ge!ser







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