Re: Gypsy Wind

Frankenbird Vern

 Not as forward crew, but performing customer check ride and pre delivery squawk flight in one of the first Falcon 50's (Anheuser-Busch always bought the first Falcon model release from Dassault); we were over Dardenelle Arkansas on the way back to Little Rock Adams Field (back then that was it's name) and that aircraft happened to be optioned with an aft cabin mach indicator.  Captain spooled all three engines in the decent dive and Oops! Somehow mach trim was offline and the aircraft leaped past 1.0.  Rock solid. I will swear on a stack of Continental crankshafts to the FAA we never could get that same error.

 It's quite possible I worked on your aircraft in the completion center.  The 10 is quite a nice aircraft. From my last factory gig, which was on the G280, I can attest the Gulfstream products are not even close...I have no idea why anyone would spend 45 million for one. I've been to Israel to support them also at IAI. Nice enough folks but not much impressed with the product.  

From: <> on behalf of Robert Cringely <bob@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 3:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [Q-List] Gypsy Wind
Speaking of Falcons, 45 years ago I spent my weekends flying a Falcon 10 with British aerobatic champion and RAF test pilot Neil Williams. We mainly dashed from London to Paris and back. One dark night over the Channel Neil did a 1-G roll with customers in the back. Nobody noticed. Another time we went supersonic in a shallow dive and now body noticed that, either.  What a great airplane!


On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 1:36 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



You may be interested in reading about the kids that are building and flying at my home field in Western Colorado.




From: <> On Behalf Of smeshno1@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2020 2:18 PM
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 It's easy at the airport to simply "see" an airplane. What is not thought of the man-YEARS it takes to build just one, not to mention the education of all that must be in place to support.


 Even an old hand in the big factories cannot help but be amazed at how an aircraft the size of a 777 is final assembled in 3 and one half days! Now of course the rate of build is slower. The NG 737 were being built and flown out of Seattle at one each 8.5 hours! And no two airliners are the same either.. the options list and various cabin configurations are vast. Engine packages as well.. the list goes on and on.   


 As a factory mechanic I never had to really understand the depth to accomplish these tasks, but as grass is green in Spring I understood really fast what happened if the rate was not met!! Still..most skills were gained not in the factory..but the hangars and shops of restoration or homebuilding. 


 I believe it is a very important task to open the eyes of youth to the fact that "things" in this world do not simply appear out of vaporware. Someone has to have the drive and interest to make real things happen.  Yes we can use current tools and we should, but the push in schools for only esoteric or theory leaves a lot to be done. 


 As I stated more than once.. I'm the Village Idiot. I was hired in several places and never stopped learning. Still am learning. Sometimes something in the past I learned can be useful but by no means do I consider myself knowledgeble



From: <> on behalf of Cody <cody.craig1985@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 2:49 PM
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This is why building this project is important to me. As well as making something that will hopefully outlive me in the long run, I want to build this the way I think it should be done. Access panels where they are actually needed etc etc.... Ive also been doing live feeds with some 7-12 graders on this build, to garner interest in maintenance. Everyone focuses on pilots, but what about the builders and maintainers? There's a lot of love for the industry not seen by the public. The story is missing half its heart.

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