Re: Plus and minus of main wing tips
Thanks for your input Kevin
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On Jan 23, 2021, at 7:00 PM, Kevin Sheeley via groups.io <kjsheely1@...> wrote:
I agree with Jay & Sam. I would like to change to more of a different wing tip but not worth the time. I had those designed in the early 90’s.
I think that I am going for wheel pants next.
Kevin
On Saturday, January 23, 2021, 3:21:51 PM EST, Mike via groups.io <n7000t@...> wrote:
I agree with you Sam! Thanks for everyone’s input. I’ll work on the other ideas gradually
Mike N On Jan 23, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Sam Kittle <skittle@...> wrote:
Mike, Be sure to consider how much down time you will have before changing anything. Then multiply that number by ten or maybe 100.
Sam K On Jan 23, 2021, at 6:19 AM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
I agree with Jay. Mike Q200 On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 22:28 Jay Scheevel < jay@...> wrote: I would say that overall, it is not worth the effort of changing what you have. There is a lot of variation in speeds of Q200’s and I think wing tip shape is down at the bottom of the list in terms of influencing drag/speed. My 2 cents. Cheers, Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q2 N8WQ 130 hours From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike via groups.io Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 1:50 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: [Q-List] Plus and minus of main wing tips Guys, im soon to be a new owner of a standard configuration Q200. I’m wondering what everyone thinks about aerodynamic wing tips for speed and performance? Or if you think it’s to much work than reward as a afterthought? I’ve seen a couple of Q pictures that have them( Kevin Sheely) and maybe those folks can chime in also. thanks in advance
Mike N
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I agree with Jay & Sam. I would like to change to more of a different wing tip but not worth the time. I had those designed in the early 90’s.
I think that I am going for wheel pants next.
Kevin
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On Saturday, January 23, 2021, 3:21:51 PM EST, Mike via groups.io <n7000t@...> wrote:
I agree with you Sam! Thanks for everyone’s input. I’ll work on the other ideas gradually
Mike N On Jan 23, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Sam Kittle <skittle@...> wrote:
Mike, Be sure to consider how much down time you will have before changing anything. Then multiply that number by ten or maybe 100.
Sam K On Jan 23, 2021, at 6:19 AM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
I agree with Jay. Mike Q200 On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 22:28 Jay Scheevel < jay@...> wrote: I would say that overall, it is not worth the effort of changing what you have. There is a lot of variation in speeds of Q200’s and I think wing tip shape is down at the bottom of the list in terms of influencing drag/speed. My 2 cents. Cheers, Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q2 N8WQ 130 hours From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike via groups.io Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 1:50 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: [Q-List] Plus and minus of main wing tips Guys, im soon to be a new owner of a standard configuration Q200. I’m wondering what everyone thinks about aerodynamic wing tips for speed and performance? Or if you think it’s to much work than reward as a afterthought? I’ve seen a couple of Q pictures that have them( Kevin Sheely) and maybe those folks can chime in also. thanks in advance
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Re: Plus and minus of main wing tips
I agree with you Sam! Thanks for everyone’s input. I’ll work on the other ideas gradually
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On Jan 23, 2021, at 12:10 PM, Sam Kittle <skittle@...> wrote:
Mike, Be sure to consider how much down time you will have before changing anything. Then multiply that number by ten or maybe 100.
Sam K On Jan 23, 2021, at 6:19 AM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
I agree with Jay. Mike Q200 On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 22:28 Jay Scheevel < jay@...> wrote: I would say that overall, it is not worth the effort of changing what you have. There is a lot of variation in speeds of Q200’s and I think wing tip shape is down at the bottom of the list in terms of influencing drag/speed. My 2 cents. Cheers, Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q2 N8WQ 130 hours From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike via groups.io Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 1:50 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: [Q-List] Plus and minus of main wing tips Guys, im soon to be a new owner of a standard configuration Q200. I’m wondering what everyone thinks about aerodynamic wing tips for speed and performance? Or if you think it’s to much work than reward as a afterthought? I’ve seen a couple of Q pictures that have them( Kevin Sheely) and maybe those folks can chime in also. thanks in advance
Mike N
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Re: Plus and minus of main wing tips
Mike, Be sure to consider how much down time you will have before changing anything. Then multiply that number by ten or maybe 100.
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On Jan 23, 2021, at 6:19 AM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
I agree with Jay. Mike Q200 On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 22:28 Jay Scheevel < jay@...> wrote: I would say that overall, it is not worth the effort of changing what you have. There is a lot of variation in speeds of Q200’s and I think wing tip shape is down at the bottom of the list in terms of influencing drag/speed. My 2 cents. Cheers, Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q2 N8WQ 130 hours From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike via groups.io Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 1:50 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: [Q-List] Plus and minus of main wing tips Guys, im soon to be a new owner of a standard configuration Q200. I’m wondering what everyone thinks about aerodynamic wing tips for speed and performance? Or if you think it’s to much work than reward as a afterthought? I’ve seen a couple of Q pictures that have them( Kevin Sheely) and maybe those folks can chime in also. thanks in advance
Mike N
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Re: Plus and minus of main wing tips
I agree with Jay. Mike Q200
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On Fri, Jan 22, 2021, 22:28 Jay Scheevel < jay@...> wrote: I would say that overall, it is not worth the effort of changing what you have. There is a lot of variation in speeds of Q200’s and I think wing tip shape is down at the bottom of the list in terms of influencing drag/speed. My 2 cents. Cheers, Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q2 N8WQ 130 hours From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike via groups.io Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 1:50 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: [Q-List] Plus and minus of main wing tips Guys, im soon to be a new owner of a standard configuration Q200. I’m wondering what everyone thinks about aerodynamic wing tips for speed and performance? Or if you think it’s to much work than reward as a afterthought? I’ve seen a couple of Q pictures that have them( Kevin Sheely) and maybe those folks can chime in also. thanks in advance
Mike N
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Re: Plus and minus of main wing tips
Thanks guys. Very good points to ponder
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On Jan 22, 2021, at 8:06 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:
Looking for speed & performance? IMHO here are the biggies: Engine cooling efficiency. Wheel pant drag Fairings & fillets Engine & Propeller upgrades
Each category can fill a book, but it's all out there. Except for #4, it's mostly elbow grease.
Sam Hoskins Q-200 Guys, im soon to be a new owner of a standard configuration Q200. I’m wondering what everyone thinks about aerodynamic wing tips for speed and performance? Or if you think it’s to much work than reward as a afterthought? I’ve seen a couple of Q pictures that have them( Kevin Sheely) and maybe those folks can chime in also. thanks in advance
Mike N
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Re: Plus and minus of main wing tips

Sam Hoskins
Looking for speed & performance? IMHO here are the biggies: Engine cooling efficiency. Wheel pant drag Fairings & fillets Engine & Propeller upgrades
Each category can fill a book, but it's all out there. Except for #4, it's mostly elbow grease.
Sam Hoskins Q-200
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Guys, im soon to be a new owner of a standard configuration Q200. I’m wondering what everyone thinks about aerodynamic wing tips for speed and performance? Or if you think it’s to much work than reward as a afterthought? I’ve seen a couple of Q pictures that have them( Kevin Sheely) and maybe those folks can chime in also. thanks in advance
Mike N
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Re: Plus and minus of main wing tips

Jay Scheevel
I would say that overall, it is not worth the effort of changing what you have. There is a lot of variation in speeds of Q200’s and I think wing tip shape is down at the bottom of the list in terms of influencing drag/speed. My 2 cents. Cheers, Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q2 N8WQ 130 hours
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike via groups.io Sent: Friday, January 22, 2021 1:50 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: [Q-List] Plus and minus of main wing tips Guys, im soon to be a new owner of a standard configuration Q200. I’m wondering what everyone thinks about aerodynamic wing tips for speed and performance? Or if you think it’s to much work than reward as a afterthought? I’ve seen a couple of Q pictures that have them( Kevin Sheely) and maybe those folks can chime in also. thanks in advance
Mike N
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Plus and minus of main wing tips
Guys, im soon to be a new owner of a standard configuration Q200. I’m wondering what everyone thinks about aerodynamic wing tips for speed and performance? Or if you think it’s to much work than reward as a afterthought? I’ve seen a couple of Q pictures that have them( Kevin Sheely) and maybe those folks can chime in also. thanks in advance
Mike N
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Re: 1st 2021 flight today.
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On Jan 17, 2021, at 7:58 PM, Bruce Crain < jcrain2@...> wrote:
Yeah she was all "Bruce bumps" at first!
B ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Jay Scheevel" < jay@...> To: < main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] 1st 2021 flight today. Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 15:16:28 -0700
Kind of puts icing conditions in a whole different context, Bruce 😊
Cheers, Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 1:49 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] 1st 2021 flight today.
Oh no! Kevin had the right frequency dialed in for our Field Of Dream last September! I think he must be on something! Maybe he can pull it off this year! Besides "Honey Lamb likes the cooler temps in May. She kept putting frozen bottles of H20 under her arms and down between her legs on the trip home last July. By the time we landed at our 1st stop her ice was gone and she was starting to show some wear!
Bruce and HL
---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Paul Fisher" <rv7a.n18pf@...> To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] 1st 2021 flight today. Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 09:01:12 -0600
Actually, this seems like normal Spring Fling weather - awful!!
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021, 08:51 Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
Yea yea.
I’ll ship you some snow!!!
Kevin
Forecast; sunny 73F high low 33F
I will be at the airport for pancake breakfast then working on the PA-22
On Jan 16, 2021, at 7:05 AM, Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
Good to hear Jerry.
I’m still weathered out. Between IFR, and snow on the runway, no dice.
Kevin
Finally got my radio back. Surprisingly it worked after installing. Got the Q airworthy at 2:30 and gave it a test flight.
53-deg, great vis, calm winds. Went out to a local practice area and knocked off the rust with some airwork. Back to the pattern for some crash and dashes and on to the hanger to wipe off the big grin.
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Just like a mirror, Mike! Wish I had a paint booth. Very nice. Cheers, Jay
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Steinsland Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 8:05 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Group Moderators <main@q-list.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] progress Sure like that video Sam and I like the presentation, you're a skilled communicator. Judging from the reflection on the wing you got that pretty straight. I've always been open to new ways of doing things, particularly while I was working on high level show cars over the years. I've learned there's always another way to skin a cat and you don't progress and increase your craftsmanship if you stay in the same mindset. I'm going to give your method a try when the time comes to do the finishing work. I'll let you guys know what the differences are. In the mean-time I've attached a picture of a reflection in the door of one of the many paint jobs I've done over the years. I really enjoyed that video. It was very informative. Thanks for taking the time to do that. I hope you guys have seen my epoxy wipe video. Probably too late in your stage, but it really works well and eliminates a lot of pain. Here it is. Found an interesting product that is even cheaper and does the same thing. The pictures show how to use the product I usually start with a coarser paper, 80 - 120 just to take the "crust" off then hit it with a guide coat again and progressively move up to a finer paper. If you go through the primer STOP (unless it's your filler) 3M makes a charcoal guide coat that I have used for years. Here's an amazon link but you should be able to get it through your local jobber a lot cheaper You put it on with a sponge like applicator (it's part of the the lid top) You don't have to put it on heavy, a very light coat will give you all the contrast you need. 1 container will easily do your airplane Nice thing with this is you don't get stinky paint fumes and overspray On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 8:21 PM Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote: Good tip Mike. I use a two foot board mostly and a sanding block along with a trouble light to look for lows and highs. I'll give the light misting of black paint a try. I put the primmer on with a roller . I have premarked with a pencil any low spots I can feel with my hand. The prime I use I have mixed with micro so I lay it on thick in the low spots. Board sand it later. Your suggestion will make it all that much better. Take care--------------- Chris
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Mike--------- I have done some tests and gas, laquer thinner , paint thinnner, acetone will all eat the foam instantley. Methal hydrate [ gasline antifreeze] does not seem to. Maybe if left there long enough it would, but for my use it evaporates quickly and does the job. Do a test yourself to make you more comfortable. Take care ---------- Chris -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Sure like that video Sam and I like the presentation, you're a skilled communicator. Judging from the reflection on the wing you got that pretty straight.
I've always been open to new ways of doing things, particularly while I was working on high level show cars over the years. I've learned there's always another way to skin a cat and you don't progress and increase your craftsmanship if you stay in the same mindset. I'm going to give your method a try when the time comes to do the finishing work. I'll let you guys know what the differences are. In the mean-time I've attached a picture of a reflection in the door of one of the many paint jobs I've done over the years.
I really enjoyed that video. It was very informative. Thanks for taking the time to do that.
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I hope you guys have seen my epoxy wipe video. Probably too late in your stage, but it really works well and eliminates a lot of pain. Here it is.
Found an interesting product that is even cheaper and does the same thing. The pictures show how to use the product
Cheers Building my GU Vdub Q2
I usually start with a coarser paper, 80 - 120 just to take the "crust" off then hit it with a guide coat again and progressively move up to a finer paper. If you go through the primer STOP (unless it's your filler)
3M makes a charcoal guide coat that I have used for years. Here's an amazon link but you should be able to get it through your local jobber a lot cheaper
You put it on with a sponge like applicator (it's part of the the lid top) You don't have to put it on heavy, a very light coat will give you all the contrast you need. 1 container will easily do your airplane
Nice thing with this is you don't get stinky paint fumes and overspray
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 8:21 PM Dorothea Keats < dkeats@...> wrote: Good tip Mike. I use a two foot board mostly and a sanding block
along with a trouble light to look for lows and highs. I'll give the
light misting of black paint a try. I put the primmer on with a roller
. I have premarked with a pencil any low spots I can feel with my
hand. The prime I use I have mixed with micro so I lay it on thick in
the low spots. Board sand it later. Your suggestion will make it all
that much better. Take care--------------- Chris
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Bruce Crain
Yeah she was all "Bruce bumps" at first!
B
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---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Jay Scheevel" <jay@...> To: <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] 1st 2021 flight today. Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 15:16:28 -0700
Kind of puts icing conditions in a whole different context, Bruce 😊
Cheers,
Jay
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bruce Crain Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2021 1:49 PM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] 1st 2021 flight today.
Oh no! Kevin had the right frequency dialed in for our Field Of Dream last September! I think he must be on something! Maybe he can pull it off this year! Besides "Honey Lamb likes the cooler temps in May. She kept putting frozen bottles of H20 under her arms and down between her legs on the trip home last July. By the time we landed at our 1st stop her ice was gone and she was starting to show some wear!
Bruce and HL
---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Paul Fisher" <rv7a.n18pf@...> To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] 1st 2021 flight today. Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2021 09:01:12 -0600
Actually, this seems like normal Spring Fling weather - awful!!
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021, 08:51 Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
Yea yea.
I’ll ship you some snow!!!
Kevin
Forecast; sunny 73F high low 33F
I will be at the airport for pancake breakfast then working on the PA-22
On Jan 16, 2021, at 7:05 AM, Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:
Good to hear Jerry.
I’m still weathered out. Between IFR, and snow on the runway, no dice.
Kevin
Finally got my radio back. Surprisingly it worked after installing. Got the Q airworthy at 2:30 and gave it a test flight.
53-deg, great vis, calm winds. Went out to a local practice area and knocked off the rust with some airwork. Back to the pattern for some crash and dashes and on to the hanger to wipe off the big grin.
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Bruce Crain
I used Denatured Alcohol.
Bruce
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---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Mike Dwyer " <q200pilot@...> To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] progress Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2021 13:11:50 -0500
Does Alcohol eat the blue/orange foam? I know gas does but I'm not sure about all the different Alcohols.
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:36 AM Dorothea Keats < dkeats@...> wrote:
Sam---------- Saw the video you made and am following that method , sort of. As a homebuilder we modify the heck out of everything. I did the micro like you did although I thinned it with alcohol and applied it much wetter than you. After sanding I am applying primer with micro with a roller similar to your epoxi wipe. I like the charcoal Mike is suggesting , but has anyone ever tried chalk for a chalk line? Comes in blue and red and may do similar. I am an old drywaller and we would add some chalk to drywall mud when you do final patching so you can identify the spots you worked on. I sprayed the bottom lightly last night like Mike suggested. Sanded a bit this morning and it worked great although I need to let it dry for another day so as not to clog the paper. I sand with 120 and 150. Works good in my application. I installed some more T nuts this morning in the firewall to hold my oil cooler. Still can't get over how good an idea they are. Could of used them thirty years ago. Also installed a plywood piece on the header tank to allow for attaching a terminal block for various grounds. Still need to attach some points on the inner fuselage to allow for attaching wiring and cables. Trying to think of everything, but i am bound to slip somewhere. Take care--------------- Chris -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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One Sky Dog
Alcohol will not dissolve styrofoam.
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On Jan 17, 2021, at 11:12 AM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
Does Alcohol eat the blue/orange foam? I know gas does but I'm not sure about all the different Alcohols. On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:36 AM Dorothea Keats < dkeats@...> wrote: Sam---------- Saw the video you made and am following that method ,
sort of. As a homebuilder we modify the heck out of everything.
I did the micro like you did although I thinned it with alcohol and
applied it much wetter than you. After sanding I am applying primer with
micro with a roller similar to your epoxi wipe.
I like the charcoal Mike is suggesting , but has anyone ever tried
chalk for a chalk line? Comes in blue and red and may do similar. I am
an old drywaller and we would add some chalk to drywall mud when you do
final patching so you can identify the spots you worked on.
I sprayed the bottom lightly last night like Mike suggested. Sanded a
bit this morning and it worked great although I need to let it dry for
another day so as not to clog the paper. I sand with 120 and 150.
Works good in my application.
I installed some more T nuts this morning in the firewall to hold my
oil cooler. Still can't get over how good an idea they are. Could of
used them thirty years ago. Also installed a plywood piece on the header
tank to allow for attaching a terminal block for various grounds.
Still need to attach some points on the inner fuselage to allow for
attaching wiring and cables.
Trying to think of everything, but i am bound to slip somewhere. Take
care--------------- Chris
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One Sky Dog
Love Click- bonds but I do not like adhesive. Epoxies work well to hold them on.
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On Jan 17, 2021, at 10:32 AM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:
Kevin is right. Almost all of my attachments/hard points are Click Bondhardware. I do NOT recommend you buy their adhesive. It is very good stuff,but it REALLY stinks for hours during and after the cure, and it hasvirtually no shelf life. I quit using it, because I could not use it fastenough before it dried up inside the packages and I had to clear out of theshop if I bonded even one fastener. Instead I use the same surface prep, butthen use JB weld (4-minute type). It is the best. Only caveat on JB Weld isthat it does conduct electricity, so be sure not to bond exposed wires withit. Don't ask me how I know. I am sure Charlie Johnson will chime in. I learned about Click Bond fromhim. Cheers,Jay-----Original Message-----From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of KevinBoddickerSent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 10:10 AMTo: main@Q-List.groups.ioSubject: Re: [Q-List] progressChris,Look into Click Bond. Neet stuff and made for attachment points in planes.KevinOn Jan 17, 2021, at 10:35 AM, Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote:
Sam---------- Saw the video you made and am following that method , sort
of. As a homebuilder we modify the heck out of everything.
I did the micro like you did although I thinned it with alcohol and
applied it much wetter than you. After sanding I am applying primer withmicro with a roller similar to your epoxi wipe.
I like the charcoal Mike is suggesting , but has anyone ever tried chalk
for a chalk line? Comes in blue and red and may do similar. I am an olddrywaller and we would add some chalk to drywall mud when you do finalpatching so you can identify the spots you worked on.
I sprayed the bottom lightly last night like Mike suggested. Sanded a bit
this morning and it worked great although I need to let it dry for anotherday so as not to clog the paper. I sand with 120 and 150. Works good in myapplication.
I installed some more T nuts this morning in the firewall to hold my oil
cooler. Still can't get over how good an idea they are. Could of used themthirty years ago. Also installed a plywood piece on the header tank to allowfor attaching a terminal block for various grounds.
Still need to attach some points on the inner fuselage to allow for
attaching wiring and cables.
Trying to think of everything, but i am bound to slip somewhere. Take
care--------------- Chris
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Jay Scheevel
I used the “Wing wash” compound as is (comes in gallon cans. It is designed to prep A/C fabric for primer and paint). I am pretty sure it uses isopropyl, but I would have to check on the label at the hangar. Cheers, Jay
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Dwyer Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 11:35 AM To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] progress Good info Jay, I'm curious which Alcohol you did your test with. Ethanol, Methanol, Propanol? On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 1:28 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote: I know that acetone does, but I don’t think alcohol does. I have been using a product that is made by Aircraft Coatings Inc. called “wing wash” that is mostly alcohol and I tested it by putting a piece of blue foam in a jar full of the stuff for a month. The foam was no different when I took it out after that time. If you are using a solvent that dissolves Styrofoam, you will need to be careful of pinholes. I did not want to worry about that, so I used something where I could literally pour it on and it would not matter. Cheers, Jay From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Dwyer Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 11:12 AM To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] progress Does Alcohol eat the blue/orange foam? I know gas does but I'm not sure about all the different Alcohols.
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:36 AM Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote: Sam---------- Saw the video you made and am following that method , sort of. As a homebuilder we modify the heck out of everything.
I did the micro like you did although I thinned it with alcohol and applied it much wetter than you. After sanding I am applying primer with micro with a roller similar to your epoxi wipe.
I like the charcoal Mike is suggesting , but has anyone ever tried chalk for a chalk line? Comes in blue and red and may do similar. I am an old drywaller and we would add some chalk to drywall mud when you do final patching so you can identify the spots you worked on.
I sprayed the bottom lightly last night like Mike suggested. Sanded a bit this morning and it worked great although I need to let it dry for another day so as not to clog the paper. I sand with 120 and 150. Works good in my application.
I installed some more T nuts this morning in the firewall to hold my oil cooler. Still can't get over how good an idea they are. Could of used them thirty years ago. Also installed a plywood piece on the header tank to allow for attaching a terminal block for various grounds.
Still need to attach some points on the inner fuselage to allow for attaching wiring and cables.
Trying to think of everything, but i am bound to slip somewhere. Take care--------------- Chris
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Good info Jay, I'm curious which Alcohol you did your test with. Ethanol, Methanol, Propanol?
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On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 1:28 PM Jay Scheevel < jay@...> wrote: I know that acetone does, but I don’t think alcohol does. I have been using a product that is made by Aircraft Coatings Inc. called “wing wash” that is mostly alcohol and I tested it by putting a piece of blue foam in a jar full of the stuff for a month. The foam was no different when I took it out after that time. If you are using a solvent that dissolves Styrofoam, you will need to be careful of pinholes. I did not want to worry about that, so I used something where I could literally pour it on and it would not matter. Cheers, Jay From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Dwyer Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 11:12 AM To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] progress Does Alcohol eat the blue/orange foam? I know gas does but I'm not sure about all the different Alcohols.
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:36 AM Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote: Sam---------- Saw the video you made and am following that method , sort of. As a homebuilder we modify the heck out of everything.
I did the micro like you did although I thinned it with alcohol and applied it much wetter than you. After sanding I am applying primer with micro with a roller similar to your epoxi wipe.
I like the charcoal Mike is suggesting , but has anyone ever tried chalk for a chalk line? Comes in blue and red and may do similar. I am an old drywaller and we would add some chalk to drywall mud when you do final patching so you can identify the spots you worked on.
I sprayed the bottom lightly last night like Mike suggested. Sanded a bit this morning and it worked great although I need to let it dry for another day so as not to clog the paper. I sand with 120 and 150. Works good in my application.
I installed some more T nuts this morning in the firewall to hold my oil cooler. Still can't get over how good an idea they are. Could of used them thirty years ago. Also installed a plywood piece on the header tank to allow for attaching a terminal block for various grounds.
Still need to attach some points on the inner fuselage to allow for attaching wiring and cables.
Trying to think of everything, but i am bound to slip somewhere. Take care--------------- Chris
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Jay Scheevel
I know that acetone does, but I don’t think alcohol does. I have been using a product that is made by Aircraft Coatings Inc. called “wing wash” that is mostly alcohol and I tested it by putting a piece of blue foam in a jar full of the stuff for a month. The foam was no different when I took it out after that time. If you are using a solvent that dissolves Styrofoam, you will need to be careful of pinholes. I did not want to worry about that, so I used something where I could literally pour it on and it would not matter. Cheers, Jay
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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Dwyer Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2021 11:12 AM To: main@q-list.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] progress Does Alcohol eat the blue/orange foam? I know gas does but I'm not sure about all the different Alcohols.
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 11:36 AM Dorothea Keats <dkeats@...> wrote: Sam---------- Saw the video you made and am following that method , sort of. As a homebuilder we modify the heck out of everything.
I did the micro like you did although I thinned it with alcohol and applied it much wetter than you. After sanding I am applying primer with micro with a roller similar to your epoxi wipe.
I like the charcoal Mike is suggesting , but has anyone ever tried chalk for a chalk line? Comes in blue and red and may do similar. I am an old drywaller and we would add some chalk to drywall mud when you do final patching so you can identify the spots you worked on.
I sprayed the bottom lightly last night like Mike suggested. Sanded a bit this morning and it worked great although I need to let it dry for another day so as not to clog the paper. I sand with 120 and 150. Works good in my application.
I installed some more T nuts this morning in the firewall to hold my oil cooler. Still can't get over how good an idea they are. Could of used them thirty years ago. Also installed a plywood piece on the header tank to allow for attaching a terminal block for various grounds.
Still need to attach some points on the inner fuselage to allow for attaching wiring and cables.
Trying to think of everything, but i am bound to slip somewhere. Take care--------------- Chris
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