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Re: Quickieurethane

JMasal@...
 

For the fuselage you want a foam that will not dissolve if exposed to a fuel
leak. But it would be nice to have a foam with a better peel strength than
urethane. You can possibly improve peel strength by poking toothpick sized holes
in the urethane so the epoxy can flow in for more grip. I would follow up on
Gall's tip tho.

j.


Weather Phone #

Kelly Poor <poorkelly@...>
 

Someone posted a phone # that you could get weather conditions at that airport by entering the 3 letter ID, Does anyone know what the phone # was?

Kelly


wheel pants

Larry Severson
 

Has anyone removed the wheel pants from a Q2 canard? Is there a good way to do it without hacking up the canard and wheel pant?

Since one pant was broken off, it would be nice to reinstall both wheels with positive camber.

Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: wheel pants

Ron <rondefly@...>
 

Larry, I have been through the wheel pant issue and changed mine totally.
Take a sawsall with the 12" blade and cut all around the canard, being
careful of the spar which is at the rear of the canard just before the
elevators. If you cut parallel with the canard you should be ok. Then you
can reinstall them anyway you want. You probably should go by the plans to
install them per that, however I did mine different as I wanted to install a
Cessna axle that I can adjust the caster camber with. Be careful as with the
plans type both sides of the pant are structural. Here are pictures of how I
did it. Page 8 is the latest version and much smaller.







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Has anyone removed the wheel pants from a Q2 canard? Is there a good way to
do it without hacking up the canard and wheel pant?

Since one pant was broken off, it would be nice to reinstall both wheels
with positive camber.

Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
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Re: PS

damiantwinsport@...
 

PS... Will send pics when I get them developed.
Regards,
Dman N8427


Re: New to Ownership Group...

damiantwinsport@...
 

Ron, I saw your site NIIIICE! I hope I can do as well. I hope you don't mind but I am going to have to steal some of your Ideas, Adjustable caster/camber plates ( do you have any prints?)and that engine mount dolly idea (very cool)
Regards,
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Re: New to Ownership Group...

Ron <rondefly@...>
 

Damian, your welcome to anything I come up with but just remember none of it
is tested as yet.



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Ron, I saw your site NIIIICE! I hope I can do as well. I hope you don't mind
but I am going to have to steal some of your Ideas, Adjustable caster/camber
plates ( do you have any prints?)and that engine mount dolly idea (very
cool)
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Re: Quickie green urethane 210

David J. Gall
 

David,

The green/tan stuff is unsuitable for wing cores. Yes, it is "garden variety" foam -- literally! It is very much the same stuff florists use for flower arrangements. It comes apart in your hands as you describe, and is easily shaped by rubbing with a block of the same material, or a wire brush. It is also resistant to solvents, an important feature for the fuselage.

I think that better materials are available today. The Last-a-Foam sold by such outlets as Aircraft Spruce would be a good choice as a substitute, although it would require some minor re-engineering and it has a higher density (about 4 lb. / cu. ft.). It might be a good idea to contact some Long-EZ builders and find out about their fuselage construction details, then go from there....

Good luck,


David J. Gall
Q1 builder

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Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Quickie green urethane 210
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 21:56:19 +1000



Hi,
Does any one know if the green urethane 210 used in the Q1 fuse is the
common or garden variety 2 to 2.2 lb cuft green or tan urethane stuff
that’s used by the insulation industry? ( the foam guys here (Oz) look
at me rather blankly when I ask about ” green urethane 210”) The samples
I have of the local seem pretty solid in compression but minute
particles seem to come off on your hands when you touch it. I wonder
how good an epoxy/glass skin bond would be on it. If it is OK, apart
from its non hotwire-ability why wouldn,t you use it for the wing cores?
Your comments appreciated.
Cheers ,
David Haydon

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Re: New to Ownership Group...

Ron <rondefly@...>
 

Great Damian, looks like you have some work ahead of you. Send some picts
when you can.



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Hey, Ron Q200 N8427 is now residing at my shop along with an unstarted
virgin kit! My God What have I done? James Postma and I flew out to Phoenix
rented a U-Haul and cleaned out a hangar.Then drove it non stop back here to
LA.
N8427 Hit a large bird in flight and broke the prop (one blade)
neccessatating an emergency landing on a road where she hit a pole and
sheared off one side of the LS1 Canard, smashed the firewall abit, and
crushed one cyl. head of the 0200.
I am now on the hunt for a spar for an LS1. it is 0400 and James just left
with the empty Uhaul.I will have to check your site out later. I AM BEAT.
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Re: Quickie green urethane 210

David Haydon <dhaydon@...>
 

Hi,
Does any one know if the green urethane 210 used in the Q1 fuse is the
common or garden variety 2 to 2.2 lb cuft green or tan urethane stuff
thats used by the insulation industry? ( the foam guys here (Oz) look
at me rather blankly when I ask about green urethane 210) The samples
I have of the local seem pretty solid in compression but minute
particles seem to come off on your hands when you touch it. I wonder
how good an epoxy/glass skin bond would be on it. If it is OK, apart
from its non hotwire-ability why wouldn,t you use it for the wing cores?
Your comments appreciated.
Cheers ,
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Re: New to Ownership Group...

damiantwinsport@...
 

Hey, Ron Q200 N8427 is now residing at my shop along with an unstarted virgin kit! My God What have I done? James Postma and I flew out to Phoenix rented a U-Haul and cleaned out a hangar.Then drove it non stop back here to LA.
N8427 Hit a large bird in flight and broke the prop (one blade) neccessatating an emergency landing on a road where she hit a pole and sheared off one side of the LS1 Canard, smashed the firewall abit, and crushed one cyl. head of the 0200.
I am now on the hunt for a spar for an LS1. it is 0400 and James just left with the empty Uhaul.I will have to check your site out later. I AM BEAT.
Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427


Re: GPS Antenna question

Bruce Crain
 

The signal strengths are better with my remote antenna on my canopy than my attached antenna. My Precidus sets directly in front of me and down even with the bottom of the panel.
Bruce



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Re: Quickie Ingredients:

Jon Finley <jon@...>
 

Also a Q1 material spreadsheet on my site
(http://www.finleyweb.net/default.asp?id=141 - last item at the bottom)
that Terry Sickler put together several years ago.

Jon

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--- In Q-LIST@..., "David Haydon" <dhaydon@i...> wrote:
Can anyone give me the ingredient quantities for a quickie: ie
Yards of BID, UNI, Epoxy, Red, Green & Blue foam?
David Haydon


Re: Elevators/flaps

Gérard Rouleau <geair@...>
 

Thanks a lot Larry; exactly what I needed.

I know I've read it before because it's highlighted in my plans but it's been a while so it never came to my mind that I could find my answer there. So I wasted hours looking elsewhere.
I know, I should have asked you guys first. Next time, I'll know better.
Thanks also to all the others who tried to help.

Gerard

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Sent: Monday, October 18, 2004 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Elevators/flaps



Gerard,
Quoting from the Canard Construction section of the Q2 plans, p. 10-1:

"The Q2 canard has a swept leading edge, swept trailing edge, anhedral,
a plain elevator which also effectively serves as a flap, ..."

One would think this statement from the designers might carry some
weight, but when dealing with bureaucrats, one never knows!

Hope it helps,
Larry Hamm
"SubyQ"

Gérard Rouleau wrote:
> Belle journée Is anybody aware of a statement by an official or
> highly reliable source about the elevators on a tandem wing airplane
> acting like flaps when deflected down?
>
> I submitted an initial application for a special certificate of
> airworthiness for amateur-built aircraft (in Canada, initial
> authorization to fly with an experimental airplane), but last Friday,
> I got a phone call telling me that my Q-2 would have to be in the
> high performance category and, thus, I would need a hi-performance
> rating on my licence.
>
> The problem is that Transport Canada doesn't take into account that
> the elevators deflected down increase the lift of the canard as would
> do flaps. So they compute my wing loading with a formula for
> airplanes without flaps, which puts it in the hi-performance category
> (over 13.3 lbs/sq.ft of wing area).
>
> When I mentioned that all other Q-2s in Canada were allowed 1000 lbs
> (14.9 lbs/sq.ft for 67 sq.ft of wing area), I was told that if they
> made mistakes in the past, they don't have to repeat them.
>
> They had asked me before for an official document to confirm that my
> elevators have a flap effect, but couldn't find any in Canadian and
> American legislation, even on Internet.
>
> Any idea where else to look?
>
> Gerard Rouleau
>
> geair@...




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Re: New to Group !

Ron <rondefly@...>
 

Welcome Brian, you will find plenty help on this list, You can check my
latest progress on mine. Click on the link below.

Ron T



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Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am new to this group.
My name is Brian Neiman, Sr (Jr is F15 Crew Chief at Eglin AFB FL)
I am 46 years of age, originally from Southeast PA and presently living in
beautiful Schofield Wisconsin
Solo'd at 16. Licensed at 19.
Built and sold Pioneer Flightstar Ultratlight airplanes.
Looking to start a Q2.
Will be looking for lots of advice as I move forward.
I appreciate being allowed to be part of this group.
Thank you,
Brian


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Re: CC #7

Joseph Snow <1flashq@...>
 

Larry,
I don't have any reliable numbers for the prop as yet. I had gotten up to 2000 RPM during my first run, but I don't believe I was at WOT due to some induction and carb control issues. That's why I have been correcting these. It has been raining today which is hampering my progress. Stay tuned.

Joseph


Re: GPS Antenna question

One Sky Dog
 

In a message dated 10/18/2004 12:57:06 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
scheevel@... writes:
Does anyone know if a fixed gps antenna can "see" through a couple of
plies of glass and paint?
Jay Scheevel Tri-Q still building
<<<<<<<<<<
Yes it can and very well. Mine is under my forward cover.

Regards,
One Sky Dog


Fly-In Picture Help

Letempt, Jeffrey CW4 <jeffrey.letempt@...>
 

Fellow Tandem Wingers,

I am just about recovered from the fly-in. Everything went great and we had
a bunch of awesome tandem wing planes that flew over for the event. I am
already looking forward to next year!!! I do have a small problem though, I
was so busy with everything at the fly-in that I only got to take about 10
pictures and I honestly did not get to look at any of the planes. Next year
I am just going to dedicate time for myself to look at all the planes. If
you attended the event and took some pictures I would like you to send them
to me. Last year I copied the contents of many of your digital camera
memory cards to my computer and then put them on the event web site. I did
not bring my computer to the event this year and forgot to ask you to share
your pictures with me. The event photos from last year are still available
on the fly-in web site at www.fidnet.com/~letempt/

If you could put your photos on a CD and mail them to me I would greatly
appreciate it. Last year I got some hard copy pictures from Nancy and Jerry
and I scanned them in and returned the originals - that is fine also. My
address is:

Jeff LeTempt
1107 Murry Lane
Rolla, MO 65401

Thanks in advance for your assistance with this!!!

Jeff


New to Group !

Brian Neiman, Sr. <brian_neiman@...>
 

Ladies and Gentlemen,
I am new to this group.
My name is Brian Neiman, Sr (Jr is F15 Crew Chief at Eglin AFB FL)
I am 46 years of age, originally from Southeast PA and presently living in beautiful Schofield Wisconsin
Solo'd at 16. Licensed at 19.
Built and sold Pioneer Flightstar Ultratlight airplanes.
Looking to start a Q2.
Will be looking for lots of advice as I move forward.
I appreciate being allowed to be part of this group.
Thank you,
Brian


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Re: CC #7

L Koutz <koutzl@...>
 

Have you gotten any reliable RPM figures for that prop yet?

I must have completely forgotten that you are building a front starter engine. I assume that
your oil cooler is in the stock location. I don't know what a folded fin cooler looks like.
William said it was more efficient. I do have a space problem as I really crammed as lot of
stuff at the back and it is tough to change something without effecting something else. I
really think I would have been better off going your front starter route and just building
my own cowling as I have really had to work to get the engine to fit!

Larry

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Subject: Re: [Q-LIST]CC #7



Larry,
Yes, that is me standing behind my engine @ CC
#7. Oh, you asked about other Q's. No, I do not recall any other person planning to
install on a Q2 airframe at CC#7.

I am hoping to run again today. I have enlarged the test stand cooling plenum, improved
the temporary throttle and mixture control positions, and built a proper air filter/carb
heat system. I have a 60x65 Sterba prop. I know others are running shorter props, but Mr.
Sterba stated he could shorten and pitch down a prop; not the reverse.

My oil cooler is the standard 8-plate folded fin type. The filter is in the standard
location. The starter is on the front of the engine and the alternator will be running off
the pulley just in front of the starter ring gear. I will be using one of William's sexy
nose bowls. The rest of the cowl I will fabricate. The engine fits very nicely on the Q2
firewall mock up with the crank centered on WL15/BL00. I believe weight and balance will
not be an issue since the Corvair is projected to weigh less all up than the O-200 all up.

Joseph
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Joseph

I looked at CC#8 on William's web site and noticed an engine on what appears to be a
Q-200
firewall is that yours? Any other Q flyers or builders at that CC?

I have 2 1/2 hours run time on my engine. Have run two different props. The only trouble
is
high oil temp. I have started the process of changing over to my new oil filter holder
and
it required me to build 2 new brackets for the starter and alternator. I ran out of
welding
gas before I finished! The new filter holder will allow a little better airflow to the
cooler.

Larry

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