I went the expensive route to protect my brake lines and make them easily
repairable. I stopped by McDonalds and got a handfull of straws. I then
fit the straws together, spot epoxied them to the gear and put a layer of
glass over them. Then all you have to do is slide the brake line tubing
down through the straws.
Jerry Marstall

Update on N45JP Quickie 200 Livermore, CA

I now have 7.5 hours on N46JP and can't say enough about it. Its kinda like what I dreamed about for 18 years but much more rewarding, exciting and fun! To this point all has been going well and hope to make Ottawa on that Friday. We're suppose to pick up "T" on our way and I just want to tell him there are no United passes this time. We will be there to get you. Be ready to put your bird in the air for the trip. OK!

Last week installed a Garmin 295 Color Map and went out today to check it out. The color display is large and easily readable and a smoked canopy makes it even better. Functionality is good and it's user friendly. The unit is installed center panel and is able to use battery or aircraft power. Navaid autopilot with Jim Hamm coupler is set up to read and track either GPS or Terra Vor. With the external antenna installed pilot side just under the canopy lip, satellite acquision is real fast.

Departed 25R at Livermore with the option and returned for a high speed pass. Farnam said from his vantage point it looked and sounded like a screamin me me, I was only at 165 mph and climb out at 1,800 fpm with a 60/66 Warnke Prop, whoopee! We believe it has something to do with being small, goes fast and gets out of yur site quickly. At 4,000 ft. I saw 195 mph indicating on the Garmin but haven't completed flutter tests yet and will moderate until that time. Flew from Livermore to the central valley and climbed to 8,000 ft. Leaned for altitude with EGT. Outside air temp at altitude was 7C and clear but bumpy. Carb air temp was 26C. Flight was non eventful and the bumps dissipated. Traveled up and down the valley several times in about a 20 mile race track config. and just observed everything. Oil temps were 200-210 degrees, oil pressure was stable at 40 lbs. CHT was consistently 325 degrees and manifold pressure was about 23". Slow flighted to 100 MPH and went through all sorts of maneuvers. Continued increasing speed in 10 mile per increments and repeated maneuvers. The AC seems stable through all regimes. Even got comfortable enough with the pressure sensitive Leather Conforfoam seats to listen to a little Shania Twain. WOW! Descended back towards Livermore and shot my first approach without using speed brake (belly board) or reflexor. Wind was 24 at 20K. AC settled in and landed straight ahead with a little left aileron. What a nice day for a ride!

I must say, this aircraft, like Bob Farnam's is really easy to fly and control. I know it's because of the refinements we both have made. Mine more copying his than invention. I would say to you guys finishing your birds, if you do it the way we did you will get the same results. A docile little bird that goes like stink!

I hope this little memo encourages all of you to work a little faster. It really is worth the ride! Jim Patillo

Pat,

Not sure if you have a GU or LS1 canard but Q2BT1 from 2/15/81 suggests
securing the brake line inside the finished slot core (in the space between
the slot core and elevator). This is how my Q2 was done. Probably not the
ideal but is less work that slitting the slot core and does allow for pretty
easy replacement IF you have enough room.

Jon Finley
N54JF Quickie - Volkswagen 1835cc
N90MG Q2 - Subaru EA-81 DDT
Apple Valley, Minnesota
http://63.90.191.136/Finley/finley-subaru.html

Hi Tom, I would sure like a copy and thanks alot...
mark, Lima, Ohio

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1988 Q-Talk issue 12 has the Sam Hosking turnbukle method.
Lynn

My grown up daughter sent me this one.
Has it been on the list already?............

Why Airplanes are Better than Women

1. An airplane will kill you quickly . . a woman takes her time.

2. Airplanes can be turned on with a flick of a switch.

3. An airplane does not get mad if you 'touch and go.'

4. An airplane does not object to a preflight inspection.

5. Airplanes come with manuals.

6. Airplanes have strict weight limits.

7. You can fly an airplane any time of the month.

8. Airplanes don't come with in-laws.

9. Airplanes don't whine unless something is really wrong.

10. Airplanes don't care about how many other airplanes you have flown.

11. When flying, you and your airplane both arrive at the same time.

12. Airplanes don't mind if you look at other airplanes, or if you buy
airplane magazines.

13. It's OK to use tie-downs on your airplane.


John Loram

Hi guys,

Someone posted a list of the parts needed for the elevator roll trim system.
I have searched the archives and cannot find it. If anyone still has it -
please send to me.

Thanks!
Jon Finley
N54JF Quickie - Volkswagen 1835cc
N90MG Q2 - Subaru EA-81 DDT
Apple Valley, Minnesota
http://63.90.191.136/Finley/finley-subaru.html

Pat,

I installed hydraulic brakes on my Q1 after it was finished. I removed the
elevators and carefully slit the slot core with a knife. Using a dremel, I
cut a small channel in the foam. I placed my brake line into the channel
and glassed the slot core closed. I had to drill a channel into the
fuselage and into the wheelpant while all was open.

I agree, install a brake line conduit if your at that stage.

Jon Finley
N54JF Quickie - Volkswagen 1835cc
N90MG Q2 - Subaru EA-81 DDT
Apple Valley, Minnesota
http://63.90.191.136/Finley/finley-subaru.html

My Q (incomplete project) was built back in the stone age, and has been
exposed to too many UV rays. Subsequently, one of my brake lines (in
the cockpit) is quite brittle. So brittle in fact that it takes little
effort to snap it anywhere I please.

I was wondering if anyone has worked out an easy means to route new
lines from the cockpit to the wheel pant?

For those of you who are building, I would strongly advise running an
oversized line which to use as a conduit, so you can change your lines
at will.

Thanks!

Pat

I've pretty much completed the interior, shot a coat of blue/grey
Zolatone inside.... looks real clean, especially with the factory
(blue) upholstery kit. Now to make the panel.

The "advanced" features of the new list server have been restricted to
members only. So, you must first "sign in" before these features are
available. Click on the "sign in" button on the top/right.

Jon

All (mostly Dave Richardson),

Just posted two photos of my new sparrow strainers on the Q-List home page
(click on files).
Jon Finley
N54JF Quickie - Volkswagen 1835cc
N90MG Q2 - Subaru EA-81 DDT
Apple Valley, Minnesota
http://63.90.191.136/Finley/finley-subaru.html

I got this post from another list, but it seems topical ;-)

Regards,
Jim Ham

The re-use of object-oriented computer code has caused tactical
headaches for Australia's armed forces. As virtual reality simulators
assume larger roles in helicopter combat training, programmers have
gone to great lengths to increase the realism of their scenarios,
including detailed landscapes, and in the case of the Northern
Territory's Operation Phoenix - herds of kangaroos (since disturbed
animals might give away a helicopter's position).

The head of the Defence Science & Technology Organisation's Land
Operations (Simulation Division) reportedly instructed developers
to model the local marsupials' movements and reactions to helicopters.
Being efficient programmers, they appropriated some code originally
used to model infantry detachment reactions under the same
circumstances, changed a mapped icon from a soldier to a kangaroo,
and increased the figures' speed of movement.

Eager to demonstrate their flying skills for some visiting American
pilots, the hotshot Aussies buzzed the virtual kangaroos in low
flight during a simulation. The kangaroos scattered, as predicted,
and the visiting Americans nodded appreciatively ... then did a
double-take as the kangaroos reappeared from behind a hill and
launched a barrage of Stinger missiles at the hapless helicopter.
Apparently the programmers had forgotten to remove that part of the
infantry coding ! The Yanks left with a new-found respect for
Australian wildlife. As to what wombats, wallabies and platypuses
carry in their pouches, that shall remain a secret in the interest
of national security.

Jim Ham, Porcine Associates
(650)326-2669 fax(650)326-1071
"http://www.porcine.com"

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In a message dated 9/1/00 6:17:59 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
finley@... writes:

<< Just posted two photos of my new sparrow strainers on the Q-List home page
(click on files).
Jon Finley >>


"Think outside the box - but fly in the envelope"
<A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/bd5er/Qpage.html">Q-2 page</A>
Leon McAtee

No Canard Wing Deer Valley Fly-In. Renamed the Mountain States Fly-In
for Canard Wing A/C and will be at Laughlin NV/BullHeadCity AZ around
the end of February (2nd Annual). More on the website when it is
available.
Glad to have you.

Don Stewart

docrw wrote:

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Apparently the thread removes non-text portions. Anybody who wants one a
copy just e-mail me directly and I'll send adrawing back to you .
Tom Ives

Hi, Barry and All!

Have been lurking here lately, and saw the interest in the carbon spar that has been expressed. As you know, the work that we have been doing out here in California has centered mostly around developping a very easy to build and extremely rugged spar out of carbon fiber rods for the Quickie single-place. However, the design is certainly applicable to the Q-200 as well, and all that is needed is one more exercise of number-crunching to get the proper rod-pack schedule, which the designer does indeed plan on doing eventually. It turns out that i will be in France for several weeks shortly, and i do plan on stopping in at Cap Aviation in Dijon, where Chris works, to check out all the interesting stuf going on there, and to bring back finalized plots and instructions for the Q-1 in time for Ottawa. Hopefully, i can get him to do the number-crunching for the Q-200 as well. The carbon necessary for this project is going to cost a fraction of the cost of the original tubes.

In case you missed it, the drop load tests on my prototype canard went without a hitch, and the canard survived just fine, although, i think the whole process must have aged me by at at least 10 years!

Alan

From: Don Stewart <siinc@...>
Reply-To: Q-LIST@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Ottawa Rides.......Spars again......
Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2000 11:05:58 -0700

The carbon Spar man is alan Thayer. He'll be at Ottawa to talk about his
new spar and the load testing he just finished.
Don
Ottawa2000
http://www.si-inc.com/Ottawa2000

Barry Stearns wrote:

Hello all. Just wanted to get in touch with some of you for the
possibility of scheduling one of those religious rides at Ottawa this

year.

Would really appreciate the opportunity to fly in one of your aircraft.
Please let me know if this would be possible. I am planning on being

down

Early Saturday and be there for the duration of the flyin.

Also, as most already know i am still in need of a set of spars. I knew
that someone had told me they had access to a set, but the name escapes

me

now. Please respond if you are that special person. Someone else also

has

brought up the possibility of getting spars made by some of the original
spar manufacture. I appreciative the help on this and look forward to
meeting you all again at Ottawa.

Barry Stearns
Grand Island, Nebraska


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Ed,

An early factory newsletter recommended Rain-X on the canard as a rain fix.
I am going to test with wet wing on take off. This will be an unstick test
same as required for airplane certification; e.g. ground roll with full
back stick and note speed at canard liftoff. Test with:
dry as is
water as is
Rain-X dry
Rain-X wet

If it works as expected one should see a big difference from dry as is and
water as is; no difference between dry as is and Rain-X dry; and perhaps a
small difference between dry as is and Rain-X wet.

I would definitely do the unstick test on your leading edge tape before
flight.

James Postma
james@...
(253) 584-1182 9:00 to 8:00 PDT (GMT-8) voice

Hi Guys,
Would Don Stewart, and Tom Moore get together and post the necessary information for
the Deer Valley Fly-in? That's a Fly-In that us in the West could make... I'm
going to try!
David Hiatt

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Hey Guys,
"Honey Lamb" and I are flying to Phoenix in Oct. We will land at Deer
Valley. There are a couple of choices for parking and fuel as far as my
Flight Guide shows. Does anyone know which is the best deal and are the
Q and avionics going to be safe? Matt Guensch (sp.) didn't I see your Q
in the
parking area at Deer Valley? Is there availability in a hanger for a few
days?

Bruce Crain
Quickie Builders Association WEB site
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Attached is a drawing for an oil cooler adapter to use between an 0-200 and an El Reno oil filter assembly.This drawing along with either an El Reno or Continental gasket (for sizing) should suffice for fabrication.
I remember the subject of cooling was discussed in depth (I think late fall or winter of last year). Issues including coolers ,shrouds, cowl flaps, air flow, and air inlet sizing were addressed. A look into the archives might prove beneficial to find overheating cures.
Tom Ives

Thanks Barry for the info. Thanks Dave for the invite to Ryan field. I
probably won't be at Copperstate (unless I can sneak out). Our foster
daughter and her husband live near Deer Valley so for convenience will
stay there. They are pregnant so we want to go look at her pouchie
tummie. Thanks Don I will E-mail Matt and see what he has on insider
information.
Bruce Crain

P.S. Dave, if you're coming to Ottawa could you bring arrival procedures
for Copperstate? My computer doesn't do attachments. Are you going to
Copperstate?

Bruce,

Matt's a DF guy on the other list. His email is N329DF@....
His DF is still hangared at Deer Valley. But he works over at Glendale
Airport now. Email him direct for hangar space.

Deer Valley is pretty secure airport, so your equip is ok overnight, a
pretty good midsize airport.

Don Stewart

Bruce J Crain wrote:

Hey Guys,
"Honey Lamb" and I are flying to Phoenix in Oct. We will land at

Deer

Valley. There are a couple of choices for parking and fuel as far

as my

Flight Guide shows. Does anyone know which is the best deal and are

the

Q and avionics going to be safe? Matt Guensch (sp.) didn't I see

your Q

in the
parking area at Deer Valley? Is there availability in a hanger for

a few

days?

Bruce Crain

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