Re: E-Bay Q...now brakes
joseph.m.tygart.alion@...
Thanks Ryan - might be, I'll take apart the master. Could also be leaking
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air from the caliper piston assembly? We'll see. joe
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From: Tri-Q1 [mailto:rryan@...] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:03 AM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: E-Bay Q...now brakes Joe, It doesn't matter which brake system you have there is a problem to be found and fixed. With no pressure at the master it might be a seal or O-ring. Ryan --- In Q-LIST@..., joseph.m.tygart.alion@l... wrote: Oh ye of knowledge - In my endless crusade to restore N672CP to aflyable condition, I have upgraded the brake mounting bracket and servicedthe "Airheart Brakes." After totally dismantling the brakes & purgingthe old mineral oil fluid from the system, I am unable to completely bleedthe brakes, i.e. with the first compression of the brake cylinder(conventional arm rest mounted handle) I consistently get air in the line withnegative brake. These are the differential type Airhearts' with independentcylinder. The calipers have 2 ea. bleed valves. I've tried bleeding from the topdown and several times from the caliper bleed valve up through the cylandervalve with a "mityVac" vacuum system! No luck. Realizing this is ahybrid old system - is there a special tool or technique I'm missing or shouldI scrap the Airheart system altogether? Thanks, Joe Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org <http://www.quickiebuilders.org> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... <mailto:Q-LIST-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service.
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Re: Broken Skytech pinion tooth (Q200)
Kevin,
The shiny spot (scrape) you saw on the side of the housing is indicative of the pinion gear being side loaded when fully engaged into the starter gear on the engine. Rich Chappee would immediately diagnose that as a kickback. I'm of the opinion that you either had an electrical kickback or a hydraulic kickback. Given the fact that you use a mag to start indicates a hydraulic kickback. That happens when the battery you are using doesn't have enough amperage to get over the top (high compression). The result is a damaged housing, shaft, seals, etc. As I've said before, the inrush amperage required to run a permanent magnet starter is much greater than that of a B&C starter and requires a larger battery. I still use a 25RG even though the B&C will start an IO540 with an 18AH battery. The reason we initially started using the Skytec was because it was a direct replacement for the stock unit, no modifications. The B&C requires modification to the mag box because the solenoid is mounted at 45 degrees or so as opposed to vertical for the Skytec. Simply mount the B&C and determine the area to be cut out of the mag box. Use the piece you cut out, reverse it and flox back into place. Reglass to restore rigidity to the mag box. Cut the interfering corner of the motor mount pad so that the starter clears on installation. You will need about a quarter of an inch clearance around the new starter to prevent rubbing. Hope this helps you. I really think you're wasting your time putting on another reworked Skytec. Rich is a really nice guy but there is an issue that needs to be solved here. Good luck, Jim P. "Kevin Fortin" <kfortin@p...> wrote: Jim,heard about the "magbox" mods you mentioned. What's happening there?(oops). refund. Don't waste your time trying to make another Skytec work. I triedstart to stop.it. Hopefully I've put the starter issue behind me. You can do thesame. filtering emailswhatwithout attachments and I didn't realize it.interest to SkytechJimtold me and after discussing what seemed to be the problem with UponPatillo's starter aka. "electronic ignition induced kickback". liked.receiving the new starter I installed it and it seemed to workwell, but hadmore of a "grinding" sound in operation than I would have After a 10avionicsMAXIMUM total starts, in a hurry to get the airplane to an shopvalve(onfield), I forgot to turn on the fuel, and, after a very shorttaxi, theobvious happened, I ran out of gas. Duh!!! I turned the gas on,turnedwaited about a minute, then tried starting again. The prop forofsomewhere between 6 to 10 seconds before the engine caught and Itaxied onmy merry way. A couple of days later, I picked the airplane up,jumped in tostart it, and was met with what seemed to be the grinding sound gearstowith missing teeth (the engine did start, however). find awastooth missing from the Skytech starters drive pinion gear. That the badQnews. The good news, I was able to find the tooth. (I thank the god's forproblemthat one.) and theycustomerdid all they could to help. I can't complain about their service.goingSkytech, but offthatrelated to something that can throw of a piece off big enough it couldengine)gum up my engine (read off field landing and/or a damaged or at theleast,least break off a tooth on the crankshaft gear, which at the is goingeffortto be damn expensive.kickback. toThisloosen the tolerances in the manufacture of the starter, Skytechhas allowedthe pinion to get too far away from the main gear on thecrankshaft. Thisresults in an incredible force trying to separate the gears. force thanonfurther deflects the shaft that holds the pinion, which leads toeven higherforces on the gears, then ultimately to a broken tooth. thewhatcenterline distances this weekend and I will let you guys know I find.don'tPlease take it know theevenratio. worse.not feelingto good with this right now.
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Re: Need a pull starter for 0-200A
Steve <sham@...>
Hey Mike, Call me off line.
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Steve Ham 317 538 9186
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From: Mike Dwyer To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 3:39 PM Subject: [Q-LIST] Need a pull starter for 0-200A Hey Guys, Anyone have an old "Pull Starter" for the Cont 0-200A laying around. I need to buy one. Mine just smoked! It actually still cranks the engine but slower than normal and when I took it apart it smells of burned wire plus some of the wire is now black... Not good! Thanks, Mike Q-200 N3QP ' Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Velocity Aircraft
Gordon Givens
Just tried to reach Velocity Aircraft in Sebastian Florida re: ordering parts and was told their number has been disconnected. Can anyone fill me in on what has happened there. Thanks.
Gord Q2 builder Ottawa Canada
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Re: E-Bay Q...now brakes
Tri-Q1 <rryan@...>
Joe,
It doesn't matter which brake system you have there is a problem to be found and fixed. With no pressure at the master it might be a seal or O-ring. Ryan --- In Q-LIST@..., joseph.m.tygart.alion@l... wrote: Oh ye of knowledge - In my endless crusade to restore N672CP to aflyable condition, I have upgraded the brake mounting bracket and servicedthe "Airheart Brakes." After totally dismantling the brakes & purgingthe old mineral oil fluid from the system, I am unable to completely bleedthe brakes, i.e. with the first compression of the brake cylinder(conventional arm rest mounted handle) I consistently get air in the line withnegative brake. These are the differential type Airhearts' with independentcylinder. The calipers have 2 ea. bleed valves. I've tried bleeding from the topdown and several times from the caliper bleed valve up through the cylandervalve with a "mityVac" vacuum system! No luck. Realizing this is ahybrid old system - is there a special tool or technique I'm missing or shouldI scrap the Airheart system altogether? Thanks, Joe
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Re: E-Bay Q
joseph.m.tygart.alion@...
Oh ye of knowledge - In my endless crusade to restore N672CP to a flyable
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condition, I have upgraded the brake mounting bracket and serviced the "Airheart Brakes." After totally dismantling the brakes & purging the old mineral oil fluid from the system, I am unable to completely bleed the brakes, i.e. with the first compression of the brake cylinder (conventional arm rest mounted handle) I consistently get air in the line with negative brake. These are the differential type Airhearts' with independent approximate 5" brake cylinders with 1 ea. bleed valve per cylinder. The calipers have 2 ea. bleed valves. I've tried bleeding from the top down and several times from the caliper bleed valve up through the cylander valve with a "mityVac" vacuum system! No luck. Realizing this is a hybrid old system - is there a special tool or technique I'm missing or should I scrap the Airheart system altogether? Thanks, Joe
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From: jcrain2@... [mailto:jcrain2@...] Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 10:58 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: [Q-LIST] E-Bay Q
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Re: X-Plane Q2/Q200?
Kent Sorensen <kents@...>
The Q2 files seems to be for an old version of X-plane and would not
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load in the current version. However, you can download a Q1 design from the x-plane repository at www.x-plane.org Select Aircraft at the bottom of the page, then X-plane 6, then Homebuilts. It will be on the second page. I wasn't too impressed with it though. Kent
On Feb 21, 2005, at 8:55 PM, Jon Finley wrote:
Could someone that has a Q2 or Q200 X-Plane "design" please email me a
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Re: Laughlin
Jim,
Paul Fisher is in and very excited as am I! Lynn French is joining the gaggle also! It is a fun flight that takes a little bit of planning as the airports thin out in NM and AZ. Can't wait to see you guys! Bruce ___________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today!
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Re: Broken Skytech pinion tooth (Q200)
Kevin Fortin <kfortin@...>
Jim,
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I know about the motor mount mods that need to be done but haven't heard about the "magbox" mods you mentioned. What's happening there? Thanks for you time and I wish I had listened to you earlier (oops). "Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want". Kevin
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From: Jim Patillo [mailto:logistics_engineering@...] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:24 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Broken Skytech pinion tooth (Q200) Kevin, 1. Thank Rich for all his help, send it back and try to get a refund. Don't waste your time trying to make another Skytec work. I tried that three times. 2. Buy a B&C, have Bruce Bainbridge upgrade the motor to a 320, no charge(better for high compression)and install it. 3. Go fly! The B&C starter has worked perfectly since the install. The modification to the mag box was simple and the motor mount only needed to have one corner cut off the pad. About 10 hours work, start to stop. As I've said before the B&C starter takes much less power to run it. Hopefully I've put the starter issue behind me. You can do the same. Sorry to hear of your troubles. I do understand! Regards, Jim P --- In Q-LIST@..., "Kevin Fortin" <kfortin@p...> wrote: Brad Olsen and guys,offline email he sent me regarding the following subject. My email was filteringemails without attachments and I didn't realize it.interest to many regarding Skytech starters.Skytech told me and after discussing what seemed to be the problem with Jimwell, but had more of a "grinding" sound in operation than I would have liked.After a 10 MAXIMUM total starts, in a hurry to get the airplane to an avionicsshop (onfield), I forgot to turn on the fuel, and, after a very shorttaxi, the obvious happened, I ran out of gas. Duh!!! I turned the gas valveon, waited about a minute, then tried starting again. The prop turnedfor somewhere between 6 to 10 seconds before the engine caught and Itaxied on my merry way. A couple of days later, I picked the airplane up,jumped in to start it, and was met with what seemed to be the grinding sound ofgears with missing teeth (the engine did start, however).find a tooth missing from the Skytech starters drive pinion gear. That wasthe bad news. The good news, I was able to find the tooth. (I thank the Qgod's for that one.)and they did all they could to help. I can't complain about their customerservice. Skytech, but as of yet, I have not installed it. All my mental alarms are goingoff related to something that can throw of a piece off big enough thatit could gum up my engine (read off field landing and/or a damaged engine)or at the least break off a tooth on the crankshaft gear, which at the least,is going to be damn expensive.kickback. control of the centerline distance of the pinion/crankshaft gear set. In an effortto loosen the tolerances in the manufacture of the starter, Skytechhas allowed the pinion to get too far away from the main gear on thecrankshaft. This results in an incredible force trying to separate the gears. Thisforce than further deflects the shaft that holds the pinion, which leads toeven higher forces on the gears, then ultimately to a broken tooth.the centerline distances this weekend and I will let you guys know whatI find. Please take it as so.know the ratio.worse. feeling to good with this right now. Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Broken Skytech pinion tooth (Q200)
Kevin Fortin <kfortin@...>
Guys,
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I forgot to include in my previous email that a major deflection of the pinion shaft was detectable because the pinion was pushed far enough off center to put a gouge in an aluminum "shroud" that wraps around the "open" side of the pinion (the shroud is part of the starter casting). Skytech knew immediately what I was talking about when I mentioned this. This deflection is what made me believe that the gears are off center to begin with. I know from experience that improper centerline distances, on the plus side, increase gear separation forces dramatically. I don't think there is anything intrinsically wrong with the pinion itself. Apparently it is supplied by Hitachi and is used for other starters in the aircraft industry. Kevin
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From: britmcman@... [mailto:britmcman@...] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:02 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Broken Skytech pinion tooth (Q200) Hello All: There is a lot of available science out there regarding failure analysis. The broken gears that so many of you seem to have produced should be looked at by a metallurgical analytical lab. In order to solve this problem there ought to be someone at Skytec doing all of this anyway. When something isn't right, there is a reason. Consider defective metals, castings, forgings, heat treatments, case hardenings, etc. A look at the fracture with an electron microscope may reveal the real reason that gear tooth broke off. I would insist that the manufacturer conduct a thorough root cause and corrective action investigation. They should insist on doing it if they want to stay in business. The starter's design and materials should be robust enough to survive routine occurrences such as kickback. Phil Lankford N870BM B&C Starter [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Laughlin
Bruce that is great news! We'll be looking for you.
I will be a lot of fun, especially with our estern brethern. Try to get Fisher off the dime. He ought to be comming too. Regards, Jim P. --- In Q-LIST@..., "jcrain2@j..." <jcrain2@j...> wrote: with weather permitting a few of us from east of the "Rockies" will be in attendance! It is an awesome trip through the mountains! Although they aren't that tall flying out I-40 west. Look forward to seeing you guys Jim! Bruce
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Re: Broken Skytech pinion tooth (Q200)
Kevin Fortin <kfortin@...>
Brad,
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If my Q had a pull starter, from what I know, I would stick with that. Kevin
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From: Brad Olson [mailto:n1tm@...] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 8:56 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Broken Skytech pinion tooth (Q200) --- In Q-LIST@..., "Kevin Fortin" <kfortin@p...> wrote: Kevin, Thanks for the info and glad you found that tooth! I talked to Rich at Sky Tec the day after you called, and he relayed your story. I started asking general questions about a Sky Tec with a high compression O-200, but then cut to the concern with Jim Patillo's three failures. Rich was very upfront about the whole matter and told me not to buy a Sky Tec for a high compression O-200. He said they need to go to work and find the problem, and he assured me he would. After searching the Internet and not finding any real issues with Sky Tecs and O-200s, I was prepared to buy one as I thought Jim's problems may have been partially related to the dual electronic ignition. Instead, my pull starter comes off this weekend for an overhaul. Maybe a B&C will go in next winter. Brad Olson N321TM, Livermore Brad Olsen and guys,offline email he sent me regarding the following subject. My email was filteringemails without attachments and I didn't realize it.interest to many regarding Skytech starters.Skytech told me and after discussing what seemed to be the problem with Jimbut had more of a "grinding" sound in operation than I would have liked. Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: Broken Skytech pinion tooth (Q200)
Kevin,
1. Thank Rich for all his help, send it back and try to get a refund. Don't waste your time trying to make another Skytec work. I tried that three times. 2. Buy a B&C, have Bruce Bainbridge upgrade the motor to a 320, no charge(better for high compression)and install it. 3. Go fly! The B&C starter has worked perfectly since the install. The modification to the mag box was simple and the motor mount only needed to have one corner cut off the pad. About 10 hours work, start to stop. As I've said before the B&C starter takes much less power to run it. Hopefully I've put the starter issue behind me. You can do the same. Sorry to hear of your troubles. I do understand! Regards, Jim P --- In Q-LIST@..., "Kevin Fortin" <kfortin@p...> wrote: Brad Olsen and guys,offline email he sent me regarding the following subject. My email was filteringemails without attachments and I didn't realize it.interest to many regarding Skytech starters.Skytech told me and after discussing what seemed to be the problem with Jimwell, but had more of a "grinding" sound in operation than I would have liked.After a 10 MAXIMUM total starts, in a hurry to get the airplane to an avionicsshop (onfield), I forgot to turn on the fuel, and, after a very shorttaxi, the obvious happened, I ran out of gas. Duh!!! I turned the gas valveon, waited about a minute, then tried starting again. The prop turnedfor somewhere between 6 to 10 seconds before the engine caught and Itaxied on my merry way. A couple of days later, I picked the airplane up,jumped in to start it, and was met with what seemed to be the grinding sound ofgears with missing teeth (the engine did start, however).find a tooth missing from the Skytech starters drive pinion gear. That wasthe bad news. The good news, I was able to find the tooth. (I thank the Qgod's for that one.)and they did all they could to help. I can't complain about their customerservice. Skytech, but as of yet, I have not installed it. All my mental alarms are goingoff related to something that can throw of a piece off big enough thatit could gum up my engine (read off field landing and/or a damaged engine)or at the least break off a tooth on the crankshaft gear, which at the least,is going to be damn expensive.kickback. control of the centerline distance of the pinion/crankshaft gear set. In an effortto loosen the tolerances in the manufacture of the starter, Skytechhas allowed the pinion to get too far away from the main gear on thecrankshaft. This results in an incredible force trying to separate the gears. Thisforce than further deflects the shaft that holds the pinion, which leads toeven higher forces on the gears, then ultimately to a broken tooth.the centerline distances this weekend and I will let you guys know whatI find. Please take it as so.know the ratio.worse. feeling to good with this right now.
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Re: Broken Skytech pinion tooth (Q200)
Brad Olson <n1tm@...>
--- In Q-LIST@..., "Kevin Fortin" <kfortin@p...> wrote:
Kevin, Thanks for the info and glad you found that tooth! I talked to Rich at Sky Tec the day after you called, and he relayed your story. I started asking general questions about a Sky Tec with a high compression O-200, but then cut to the concern with Jim Patillo's three failures. Rich was very upfront about the whole matter and told me not to buy a Sky Tec for a high compression O-200. He said they need to go to work and find the problem, and he assured me he would. After searching the Internet and not finding any real issues with Sky Tecs and O-200s, I was prepared to buy one as I thought Jim's problems may have been partially related to the dual electronic ignition. Instead, my pull starter comes off this weekend for an overhaul. Maybe a B&C will go in next winter. Brad Olson N321TM, Livermore Brad Olsen and guys,offline email he sent me regarding the following subject. My email was filteringemails without attachments and I didn't realize it.interest to many regarding Skytech starters.Skytech told me and after discussing what seemed to be the problem with Jimbut had more of a "grinding" sound in operation than I would have liked.
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Re: Steerable nose wheel
REBECCA SIMPSON
Pat - You always have a way of driving the point home - Thanks
Patrick Panzera <panzera@...> wrote:> Earnest, Have differential brakes - Low time pilot just getting ready to test flyNo worries Tad, the learning curve is maybe 10 min. Worst thing you can do is park w/o making sure the wheel is straight. Consider the weight, complexity and x-wind conditions (touching down with the up wind wing down, and full rudder to realign with centerline... where is your nose wheel pointing?) against the warm feeling. Pat Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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Re: Steerable nose wheel
Patrick Panzera <panzera@...>
Earnest,No worries Tad, the learning curve is maybe 10 min. Worst thing you can do is park w/o making sure the wheel is straight. Consider the weight, complexity and x-wind conditions (touching down with the up wind wing down, and full rudder to realign with centerline... where is your nose wheel pointing?) against the warm feeling. Pat
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Broken Skytech pinion tooth (Q200)
Kevin Fortin <kfortin@...>
Brad Olsen and guys,
First off, my apologies to Brad Olsen for not responding to an offline email he sent me regarding the following subject. My email was filtering emails without attachments and I didn't realize it. I am responding to his email on list because I think it is of interest to many regarding Skytech starters. Background: I ordered a Skytech starter on the basis of what Skytech told me and after discussing what seemed to be the problem with Jim Patillo's starter aka. "electronic ignition induced kickback". Upon receiving the new starter I installed it and it seemed to work well, but had more of a "grinding" sound in operation than I would have liked. After a 10 MAXIMUM total starts, in a hurry to get the airplane to an avionics shop (onfield), I forgot to turn on the fuel, and, after a very short taxi, the obvious happened, I ran out of gas. Duh!!! I turned the gas valve on, waited about a minute, then tried starting again. The prop turned for somewhere between 6 to 10 seconds before the engine caught and I taxied on my merry way. A couple of days later, I picked the airplane up, jumped in to start it, and was met with what seemed to be the grinding sound of gears with missing teeth (the engine did start, however). The following weekend I pulled the engine and the starter only to find a tooth missing from the Skytech starters drive pinion gear. That was the bad news. The good news, I was able to find the tooth. (I thank the Q god's for that one.) On the following Monday, I called Skytech and explained the problem and they did all they could to help. I can't complain about their customer service. At this point, I have received a replacement starter (new) from Skytech, but as of yet, I have not installed it. All my mental alarms are going off related to something that can throw of a piece off big enough that it could gum up my engine (read off field landing and/or a damaged engine) or at the least break off a tooth on the crankshaft gear, which at the least, is going to be damn expensive. Relevant info 1. As far as I know I did not have a kickback. 2. I was starting on left mag only 3. I believe the real problem is Skytech's control of the centerline distance of the pinion/crankshaft gear set. In an effort to loosen the tolerances in the manufacture of the starter, Skytech has allowed the pinion to get too far away from the main gear on the crankshaft. This results in an incredible force trying to separate the gears. This force than further deflects the shaft that holds the pinion, which leads to even higher forces on the gears, then ultimately to a broken tooth. 4. I am going to try to get some measurements on the centerline distances this weekend and I will let you guys know what I find. 5. Item 3 is only conjecture at this point. Please take it as so. 6. I have high compression pistons, but I don't know the ratio. 7. I usually don't write well and tonight is even worse. If anyone has a better starting system idea, let me know. I am not feeling to good with this right now. Kevin Fortin N275CH Except for the starter, damn close to flyin'
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Re: Steerable nose wheel
REBECCA SIMPSON
Earnest,
Have differential brakes - Low time pilot just getting ready to test fly project (Phoenix SL - TRI-DF with LS-1). I just have a warm cushy feeling with a steerable nose wheel. Tad Simpson Phoenix (Tri-DF) N1007p MartinErni@... wrote: Who is asking and why on earth would you want one? Differential brakes work as well and are much simpler Earnest. Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org --------------------------------- Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone.
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Re: E-Bay Q
Tri-Q1 <rryan@...>
N-number : N83PW
Aircraft Serial Number : 2723 Aircraft Manufacturer : WHETSTEN RONALD N Model : QUICKIE Q-2 Engine Manufacturer : REVMASTER Model : 2100 SERIES Aircraft Year : 1983 Owner Name : WHETSTEN RONALD N Owner Address : 4111 MAGNOLIA BATTLEFIELD, MO, 65619 Type of Owner : Individual Registration Date : 10-Apr-1984 Airworthiness Certificate Type : Experimental Approved Operations : Amateur Built --- In Q-LIST@..., "Letempt, Jeffrey CW4" <jeffrey.letempt@u...> wrote: Bruce,He had cash in his hand ready to buy it, but the owner put so manyrestrictions on the sale that I am not sure anyone would ever be able to registerthe airplane. He would not provide a bill of sale or even disclose theaircraft tail number. He was so secretitive that you would have sworn itwas some kind of a drug deal.number, maybe he realized he would never be able to sell the airplane withsuch stipulations. I understand people are very concerned about gettingthe plane up and sell off the parts. It sure looks like a prettyairplane. Springfield, MO. Maybe someone can give me a good reason to fly down to Springfieldto take a look at it. I flew about 1.2 hours today....just out boring holesin the sky with my Dragonfly.and may be able to provide additional information about the quality if someoneis interested. I am not going to volunteer him, but if you ask he willViewItem&item=4529158482 &indexURL=10#ebayphotohosting
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Re: E-Bay Q
Letempt, Jeffrey CW4 <jeffrey.letempt@...>
Bruce,
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I had a friend who tried to buy this airplane about 9 months ago. He had cash in his hand ready to buy it, but the owner put so many restrictions on the sale that I am not sure anyone would ever be able to register the airplane. He would not provide a bill of sale or even disclose the aircraft tail number. He was so secretitive that you would have sworn it was some kind of a drug deal. I do see in the pictures now posted on eBay that you can see the N number, maybe he realized he would never be able to sell the airplane with such stipulations. I understand people are very concerned about getting sued.....if you (not really you) are that worried about it just cut the plane up and sell off the parts. It sure looks like a pretty airplane. The airplane is located about 100 miles from my home near Springfield, MO. Maybe someone can give me a good reason to fly down to Springfield to take a look at it. I flew about 1.2 hours today....just out boring holes in the sky with my Dragonfly. There is a builder on this list who is familar with this airplane and may be able to provide additional information about the quality if someone is interested. I am not going to volunteer him, but if you ask he will probably reply. Jeff
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From: jcrain2@... To: Q-LIST@... Sent: 2/21/2005 9:57 PM Subject: [Q-LIST] E-Bay Q Isn't this Ron Whetstin's TriQ on E-Bay? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4529158482 &indexURL=10#ebayphotohosting Bruce ___________________________________________________________________ Speed up your surfing with Juno SpeedBand. Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Links
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