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Re: Dot 5
Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
Damian my kit brakes must use auto transmission fluid not brake fluid. Braked fluid would spoil the O ring seals in my set.
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Peter
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From: damiantwinsport@... To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 7:40 AM Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Dot 5 Group, One great advantage of DOT 5 fluid is that it is non corrosive and will not eat paint if you spill some on it (as I inevitably seem to do as well as get fingerprints on stuff). One warning is that 3-4 and 5 do not mix!Catastrophic results will ensue. To convert all parts should be(read must)taken apart and seals changed as well as lines purged. The added benefits of Dot 5 is that you will not suffer corrosion issues [crusty stuff) should the aircraft remain dormant for a long period. just my 3 cents worth...And does anyone have a stock 0200 starter laying around defunct is fine{actually prefered)? Regards, Damian Gregory N8427 Q200 Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Re: Fw: Re: Seat belt anchor bolts
Larry Hamm <LDHAMM@...>
Paul,
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Thanks! I'm working on that just now. My canopy's a slider, so it's already open in the rear. I think I'll make two belt slots (per seat) in the seatback bulkhead, shoulder width, with a bit of reinforcing between. Other than for comfort, this should vector the impact forces to the anchor bolt in nearly opposite directions, reducing the chance of the anchor pad ripping free. Always fun! Larry Paul Buckley wrote:
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Re: Seat belt anchor bolts
Paul Buckley
Hi Sam
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Interesting write up, I guess that the dice were on your side that day! Do you think though, that you gave the belt attach points a real workout? (I asume that they are built as per plans) Perhaps your speed was not that great at moment of flip over, though the thought of you hanging upside down as the vertical stab. slammed into the ground makes me wince. As a matter of interest, do you have the full canopy bulkhead or is it cut away as I previously mentioned? Regards Paul Buckley
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From: Sam Hoskins To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:42 PM Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Seat belt anchor bolts Early on, I had an accident. You can read all the gory details here: http://home.mchsi.com/~shoskins/early_years.htm When it was all over, the aircraft had flipped upside down, I had a broken tailcone, rear wing, canopy. Prop and cowling. For what it's worth, the seatbelt attachments held. Sam _____ From: Paul Buckley [mailto:paulbuckley@...] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:25 AM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Seat belt anchor bolts Somewhere in an old Q-talk there is a suggested modification to the seat belt attach points, utilising the outside skin. I am a little hazy about it but I think it involved removing a section of the inner skin and foam and floxing in a 3/8 ply reinforcing plate, then applying the glass reinforcing patches on the inside. The holes for the fastening bolts are then drilled all the way through the fus. side, countersunk on the outside and the appropriate AN4 bolts used. Any depression left on the fus. skin is filled with flox and a one ply bid patch applied (if considered neccessary) Paul Buckley TriQ-200 Cheshire England. ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Hamm To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Seat belt anchor bolts Sam, I, too, wonder about the ability of the glass to hold 9G forces. Maybe about ten plies of six inch wide UNI, run as far to the rear as possible? Thanks also to John and Neil, but since your answers don't match, I'll have to throw them out. No, seriously, it sounds like the AN-4 will do the job. Since I'm not planning on ever trying it out, I should be fine! Larry Sam Kittle wrote: > Larry, > > I have been looking at installing my belt anchors and am really more > concerned about the 7 layers of BID to the inside skin. I am thinking > of cutting through the inside skin, removing the clark foam and then > accomplishing the lay-up to the inside of the outside skin. > > It looks to me that the AN4 bolt is stronger than the lay-up to the > inside skin. But I am not an engineer. > > Sam > > Larry Hamm wrote: > > >>My van has metric grade 8.8 bolts, 10mm diameter, anchoring the belts >>(and me). They feel very strong, even when I yank on them REALLY HARD. >>On the other hand, the Q plans call for AN4 bolts, about 6mm diameter. >> >>Do 1/4" bolts really seem sufficient? Then again, since the Q bolts >>don't have much to hang on to, I guess bigger bolts wouldn't provide any >>more security, huh? >> >>Should I leave out the header tank and install airbags?? >> >>Larry Hamm >>"SubyQ" >> >> >> >> >>Quickie Builders Association WEB site >>http://www.quickiebuilders.org >> >> >>Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Quickie Builders Association WEB site > http://www.quickiebuilders.org > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.3.0 - Release Date: 21/02/2005 ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. 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Fw: Re: Seat belt anchor bolts
Paul Buckley
Not sure if this went out OK so I am sending it again.
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From: Paul Buckley To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 7:54 PM Subject: Fw: [Q-LIST] Re: Seat belt anchor bolts You should make two attach points for each seat, the same width as the belts where they go over your shoulders. In the event of a sudden stop it will cause the g force acting on your shoulders to be in the direction of travel, and prevent the straps trying to chop off your head! Another worthwhile mod to seat belt safety is to cut away the canopy bulkhead and make it horseshoe shaped. You would need to do this anyway, to gain any benefit from the dual shoulder strap attach points. As per plans, with a full canopy bulkhead, the shoulder straps will exert a downward load on your shoulders in the event of a major sudden stop, which could possibly cause a compression fracture of the spine. The whole idea of these two mods is to ensure that any g load imposed by rapid deceleration acts squarely on your body. They are not for cosmetic reasons. Paul Buckley TriQ-200 Cheshire England ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Hamm To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Seat belt anchor bolts OK, Jim, which is it, build per plans or make two wing mount points each seat? :) (I appreciate the tip!) I had just noticed the gross disparity in size between the anchor bolts in my van and in a Q and was wondering. I guess there aren't too many head on collisions in the air. Larry In Utah where the sun shines except when Cali sends it's crud up here. Jim Patillo wrote: > > > Larry & Sam, > > How many people have crashed these things? (Lots) How many people > have lived? (Lots) How many died because the seatbelt failed? > (Debatable) How many people built per plans? (Lots) See where I'm > going with this. Just build it per plans and move on. You need to > consider making double mount points in the main wing for each set of > belts. This will eliminate the harness cutting into your neck while > flying problem. > > Jim Patillo In California where the sun never shines anymore ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 22/02/2005
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Re: Mike's web site
HawkiDoug <hawkidoug@...>
Thanks for Mike's Web site. Once I got there, I remembered I already had it.
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Doug "Hawkeye" Humble www.asignabove.net Omaha NE N25974
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Re: [Fwd: Velocity Aircraft]]
Gordon Givens
David,
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I thought that it might be hurricane related too but Scott Baker at Velocity told me that they had no trouble receiving calls from all across the U.S. and other International calls on Wednesday and suggested that the problem was probably in my exchange connecting to the 772 area code. Nobody with Bell here can identify with any problem at this end either however, although that seems like the most plausible explanation I have received to date. Thanks for your input nevertheless. As a relative newcomer on the Quickie aircraft builder scene ( 11 months now, presently making my templates ) I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your tremendous contributions to those of us less knowledgeable for your excellent articles both in the past and present. Your article on camber and toe-in was one of the first I was directed to by another Q2 builder from the Montreal area, David Cyr, who graciously took me for my first flight last summer in his Q2 which he built I believe in the 90's. I am indeed fortunate to have he and Michel Moreau also from the Montreal area to consult with as I proceed with my building. All I must do now is beat father time to the finish line :-) Best regards, Gord Givens Ottawa, Canada
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From: David Gall To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 5:36 PM Subject: Re: RE: [Fwd: [Q-LIST] Velocity Aircraft]] Gordon, BellSouth lost much of their newer switching equipment for the 407 and 772 area codes in the hurricanes last year and are still rebuilding the network in that area. The existing network is older equipment pressed back into service and subject to interesting glitches like the one you experienced. David J. Gall Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Re: Mike's web site
Gordon Givens
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From: HawkiDoug To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 5:18 PM Subject: [Q-LIST] Mike's web site OK I'm curious too. What is Mike Dwyer's web site address. Doug "Hawkeye" Humble www.asignabove.net Omaha NE N25974 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Givens" <gordongivens@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:58 PM Subject: Re: RE: [Fwd: [Q-LIST] Velocity Aircraft]] > > Thanks Mike, I did have their number, actually it is 772 589 1860. My > problem was connecting with them. I tried three times over a 20 minute > span and kept getting a recorded message from Bell that their phone had > been disconnected which in fact was not the case. I did try again this > morning and got through with no problem. The only plausible explanation I > have to date is what I outlined in my email to this group this morning. > While I have this opportunity I would like to thank you for your website > on building your Q200. I have visited it a number of times in the past 11 > months since purchasing my kit. How is the Osprey coming along? > Gord > Q2 Builder > Ottawa, Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Dwyer > To: Q-LIST@... > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:50 PM > Subject: [Fwd: RE: [Fwd: [Q-LIST] Velocity Aircraft]] > > > > > Their tel # is 772-589-1660 You can also contact Scott on Email at[ > scottswing@... > <mailto:scottswing@...> ] > > > > > > > >Just tried to reach Velocity Aircraft in Sebastian Florida re: ordering > parts and was told their number has been disconnected. Can anyone fill me > in on what has happened there. Thanks. > > > >Gord > >Q2 builder > >Ottawa Canada > > > > > > > > > > > Quickie Builders Association WEB site > http://www.quickiebuilders.org > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > Quickie Builders Association WEB site > http://www.quickiebuilders.org > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Re: Mike's web site
Paul Spackman
Doug,
Take a look under links on the QBA website ;0 Paul Spackman --- In Q-LIST@..., "HawkiDoug" <hawkidoug@c...> wrote: OK I'm curious too. What is Mike Dwyer's web site address.1860. My minuteproblem was connecting with them. I tried three times over a 20 phone hadspan and kept getting a recorded message from Bell that their thisbeen disconnected which in fact was not the case. I did try again explanation Imorning and got through with no problem. The only plausible morning.have to date is what I outlined in my email to this group this websiteWhile I have this opportunity I would like to thank you for your past 11on building your Q200. I have visited it a number of times in the Email at[months since purchasing my kit. How is the Osprey coming along? orderingscottswing@v... fill meparts and was told their number has been disconnected. Can anyone ------------in on what has happened there. Thanks. ofYahoo! Groups Links Service.
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Re: Seat belt anchor bolts
Sam Hoskins <shoskins@...>
Early on, I had an accident. You can read all the gory details here:
http://home.mchsi.com/~shoskins/early_years.htm When it was all over, the aircraft had flipped upside down, I had a broken tailcone, rear wing, canopy. Prop and cowling. For what it's worth, the seatbelt attachments held. Sam _____ From: Paul Buckley [mailto:paulbuckley@...] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:25 AM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Seat belt anchor bolts Somewhere in an old Q-talk there is a suggested modification to the seat belt attach points, utilising the outside skin. I am a little hazy about it but I think it involved removing a section of the inner skin and foam and floxing in a 3/8 ply reinforcing plate, then applying the glass reinforcing patches on the inside. The holes for the fastening bolts are then drilled all the way through the fus. side, countersunk on the outside and the appropriate AN4 bolts used. Any depression left on the fus. skin is filled with flox and a one ply bid patch applied (if considered neccessary) Paul Buckley TriQ-200 Cheshire England. ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Hamm To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Seat belt anchor bolts Sam, I, too, wonder about the ability of the glass to hold 9G forces. Maybe about ten plies of six inch wide UNI, run as far to the rear as possible? Thanks also to John and Neil, but since your answers don't match, I'll have to throw them out. No, seriously, it sounds like the AN-4 will do the job. Since I'm not planning on ever trying it out, I should be fine! Larry Sam Kittle wrote: > Larry, > > I have been looking at installing my belt anchors and am really more > concerned about the 7 layers of BID to the inside skin. I am thinking > of cutting through the inside skin, removing the clark foam and then > accomplishing the lay-up to the inside of the outside skin. > > It looks to me that the AN4 bolt is stronger than the lay-up to the > inside skin. But I am not an engineer. > > Sam > > Larry Hamm wrote: > > >>My van has metric grade 8.8 bolts, 10mm diameter, anchoring the belts >>(and me). They feel very strong, even when I yank on them REALLY HARD. >>On the other hand, the Q plans call for AN4 bolts, about 6mm diameter. >> >>Do 1/4" bolts really seem sufficient? Then again, since the Q bolts >>don't have much to hang on to, I guess bigger bolts wouldn't provide any >>more security, huh? >> >>Should I leave out the header tank and install airbags?? >> >>Larry Hamm >>"SubyQ" >> >> >> >> >>Quickie Builders Association WEB site >>http://www.quickiebuilders.org >> >> >>Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Quickie Builders Association WEB site > http://www.quickiebuilders.org > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.3.0 - Release Date: 21/02/2005 ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 22/02/2005 Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1292koktv/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=gr oups/S=1705065618:HM/EXP=1109352709/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http:/www.n etflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S= :HM/A=2593423/rand=299942042> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... <mailto:Q-LIST-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Terms of Service.
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Re: E-Bay Q
Larry Hamm <LDHAMM@...>
Bob,
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Airheart offers both types of seals now (DOT 5 or Mil-H-5606). I'm trying to determine which would be compatible with the Mil-H-83282 synthetic fluid mentioned in an earlier post today. It looks like good stuff, and since I'm working on brakes now, I may as well use it. Thanks again for mentioning that brake master cylinders on Quickies should be the non-reservoir type. I had some Matco MC-5's I was going to use, but hadn't thought about trying to add fluid later. Now I've got the MC-4's and a remote reservoir. Larry Hamm Park City, UT "SubyQ" Bob Farnam wrote:
Beware of Dot 5 if you are using the Airheart brakes. It is compatible with
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Re: Seat belt anchor bolts
Larry Hamm <LDHAMM@...>
Jim,
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I know what you're saying, and I'd love to build per plans, but there's that Jim-Bob sixpack, and draggy wheelpants, and limited tankage, and engines that don't suit me, and whatever else needs changing after twenty-five years! :) I think I can use the single wing anchor bolt on each side, and route the shoulder harnesses through two slots instead of one. That should help. Jim Patillo wrote:
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Re: [Fwd: Velocity Aircraft]]
David J. Gall
Gordon,
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BellSouth lost much of their newer switching equipment for the 407 and 772 area codes in the hurricanes last year and are still rebuilding the network in that area. The existing network is older equipment pressed back into service and subject to interesting glitches like the one you experienced. David J. Gall
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From: "Gordon Givens" <gordongivens@...> To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: RE: [Fwd: [Q-LIST] Velocity Aircraft]] Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 16:58:29 -0500
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Mike's web site
HawkiDoug <hawkidoug@...>
OK I'm curious too. What is Mike Dwyer's web site address.
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Doug "Hawkeye" Humble www.asignabove.net Omaha NE N25974
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From: "Gordon Givens" <gordongivens@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:58 PM Subject: Re: RE: [Fwd: [Q-LIST] Velocity Aircraft]]
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Re: [Fwd: Velocity Aircraft]]
Gordon Givens
Thanks Mike, I did have their number, actually it is 772 589 1860. My problem was connecting with them. I tried three times over a 20 minute span and kept getting a recorded message from Bell that their phone had been disconnected which in fact was not the case. I did try again this morning and got through with no problem. The only plausible explanation I have to date is what I outlined in my email to this group this morning. While I have this opportunity I would like to thank you for your website on building your Q200. I have visited it a number of times in the past 11 months since purchasing my kit. How is the Osprey coming along?
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Gord Q2 Builder Ottawa, Canada
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From: Mike Dwyer To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:50 PM Subject: [Fwd: RE: [Fwd: [Q-LIST] Velocity Aircraft]] Their tel # is 772-589-1660 You can also contact Scott on Email at[ scottswing@... <mailto:scottswing@...> ] > > >Just tried to reach Velocity Aircraft in Sebastian Florida re: ordering parts and was told their number has been disconnected. Can anyone fill me in on what has happened there. Thanks. > >Gord >Q2 builder >Ottawa Canada > > > > Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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Re: E-Bay Q
I see the Tri Q closing on eBay in 21 minutes. Whose it gonna be?
Phil Lankford N870BM
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Re: Seat belt anchor bolts
Gordon Givens
For what it is worth Velocity does it by removing the top skin, digging out the foam, packing it with mico-glass, and inserting the aluminum hardpoint and glassing over it with two plies of bid. If you go to Andy Millin's website at http://www.kal-soft.com/velocity/ and go to photos 261 and 262 he shows it very well.
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Gord Q2 Builder Ottawa, Canada
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From: Paul Buckley To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Seat belt anchor bolts Somewhere in an old Q-talk there is a suggested modification to the seat belt attach points, utilising the outside skin. I am a little hazy about it but I think it involved removing a section of the inner skin and foam and floxing in a 3/8 ply reinforcing plate, then applying the glass reinforcing patches on the inside. The holes for the fastening bolts are then drilled all the way through the fus. side, countersunk on the outside and the appropriate AN4 bolts used. Any depression left on the fus. skin is filled with flox and a one ply bid patch applied (if considered neccessary) Paul Buckley TriQ-200 Cheshire England. ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Hamm To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 6:01 AM Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Seat belt anchor bolts Sam, I, too, wonder about the ability of the glass to hold 9G forces. Maybe about ten plies of six inch wide UNI, run as far to the rear as possible? Thanks also to John and Neil, but since your answers don't match, I'll have to throw them out. No, seriously, it sounds like the AN-4 will do the job. Since I'm not planning on ever trying it out, I should be fine! Larry Sam Kittle wrote: > Larry, > > I have been looking at installing my belt anchors and am really more > concerned about the 7 layers of BID to the inside skin. I am thinking > of cutting through the inside skin, removing the clark foam and then > accomplishing the lay-up to the inside of the outside skin. > > It looks to me that the AN4 bolt is stronger than the lay-up to the > inside skin. But I am not an engineer. > > Sam > > Larry Hamm wrote: > > >>My van has metric grade 8.8 bolts, 10mm diameter, anchoring the belts >>(and me). They feel very strong, even when I yank on them REALLY HARD. >>On the other hand, the Q plans call for AN4 bolts, about 6mm diameter. >> >>Do 1/4" bolts really seem sufficient? Then again, since the Q bolts >>don't have much to hang on to, I guess bigger bolts wouldn't provide any >>more security, huh? >> >>Should I leave out the header tank and install airbags?? >> >>Larry Hamm >>"SubyQ" >> >> >> >> >>Quickie Builders Association WEB site >>http://www.quickiebuilders.org >> >> >>Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > Quickie Builders Association WEB site > http://www.quickiebuilders.org > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor Get unlimited calls to U.S./Canada ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.3.0 - Release Date: 21/02/2005 ---------- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 22/02/2005 Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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[Fwd: RE: [Fwd: Velocity Aircraft]]
Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
Their tel # is 772-589-1660 You can also contact Scott on Email at[ scottswing@... <mailto:scottswing@...> ]
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Re: Interesting article on Brake Fluid
Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
That is an excellent article, thanks for posting it. I'm going to
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change from the auto transmission oil I was using. Mike Q-200 moehlencamp@... wrote:
There is some interesting reading on brake fluid and component compatability
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Re: Strong Pitch Trim
Ron Triano <rondefly@...>
Sorry Doug, here it is.
Sorry Dave, I forgot to insert the web page for Strong Pitch Trim. http://www.strongpitchtrim.com/ <BLOCKED::http://www.strongpitchtrim.com/> This will show you how it operates. Ron T _____ From: HawkiDoug [mailto:hawkidoug@...] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:31 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Strong Pitch Trim Ron, you didn't have a link in your email. Doug "Hawkeye" Humble www.asignabove.net Omaha NE N25974 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Triano" <rondefly@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:10 PM Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Strong Pitch Trim <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129jm3hf6/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=gr oups/S=1705065618:HM/EXP=1109345727/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www. netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075> click here<http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S= :HM/A=2593423/rand=500597656> Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=129nj2f7r/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=gr oups/S=1705065618:HM/EXP=1109363901/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http://www. netflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S= :HM/A=2593423/rand=119825729> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... <mailto:Q-LIST-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> .
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Re: E-Bay Q
joseph.m.tygart.alion@...
BRAKES: Right on guys - The overhaul kit I received from Airheart specifies
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"Red Mineral Oil "fluid only. Comes in a 13 oz bottle. I've tried everything suggested so far. As J.P. stated, you must bleed from the upper bleed valve. I agree that the culprit is probably air entering the system via the bleed valves. Think I'll try some Teflon sealing tape around the bleed valves and rig up a pressure pump to force out bubbles. I'll try again this weekend if the snow melts enough. Could be some alien west coast bacteria type critter that hooked a ride from Washington State? Thanks all, Joe Tygart
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From: Bob Farnam [mailto:bfarnam@...] Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:47 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] E-Bay Q Beware of Dot 5 if you are using the Airheart brakes. It is compatible with Cleveland or Matco brake systems, but not Airheart (unless they have changed their seal compounds in the caliper). I tried Dot 5 early in the game (1998) and had massive leaks develop in the calipers. A switch to aviation red fixed the problem and I've had no more leaks. I use Matco master cylinders and Airheart calipers. Bob F. N200QK -----Original Message----- From: James Postma [mailto:james@...] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:26 PM To: joseph.m.tygart.alion@... Cc: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] E-Bay Q Hi Joe, I thought you bought an airplane that flew in from my part of the country. How come so many problems? What kind of brake fluid are you using? If you are not using aircraft fluid, get some. I have had nothing but trouble with transmission fluid. No special tools required. You must bleed from the top bleed port on the calipers. Pressure bleeding from the bottom and standard bleeding from the top will both work. One problem is that the bleed screw must be turned open to get fluid in/out and when you do this, there will be air going into the line. So you should attach a tube to the screw with fluid in it and open the screw when there is positive fluid pressure to keep air out. I had a unique problem with one airplane. The master cylinder was attached to a parking brake valve with a solid line. When I pulled on the brake handle, the solid line put tension on the connection to the valve and created a leak. You could also use dot 5 auto fluid but must first purge all the remaining fluid in the system with paint thinner and disassemble the pistons and clean them out (both master and calipers). When dot 5 mixes with dot 3 or aircraft fluid it becomes a jelly. The great thing about dot 5 is that the seals will not deteriorate. The US military uses dot 5 for this reason. Hope this helps. James Postma Q2 Revmaster N145EX Q200 N8427 Steilacoom, Washington (253) 584-1182 9:00 to 8:00 PDT May your header tank be always full and your wings right side up. ----- Original Message ----- From: <joseph.m.tygart.alion@...> To: <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:19 AM Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] E-Bay Q > > Oh ye of knowledge - In my endless crusade to restore N672CP to a flyable > condition, I have upgraded the brake mounting bracket and serviced the > "Airheart Brakes." After totally dismantling the brakes & purging the old > mineral oil fluid from the system, I am unable to completely bleed the > brakes, i.e. with the first compression of the brake cylinder (conventional > arm rest mounted handle) I consistently get air in the line with negative > brake. These are the differential type Airhearts' with independent > approximate 5" brake cylinders with 1 ea. bleed valve per cylinder. The > calipers have 2 ea. bleed valves. I've tried bleeding from the top down and > several times from the caliper bleed valve up through the cylander valve > with a "mityVac" vacuum system! No luck. Realizing this is a hybrid old > system - is there a special tool or technique I'm missing or should I scrap > the Airheart system altogether? Thanks, Joe > > Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org <http://www.quickiebuilders.org> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Yahoo! Groups Links a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/> b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Quickie Builders Association WEB site http://www.quickiebuilders.org <http://www.quickiebuilders.org> Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=1297ugpap/M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=gr oups/S=1705065618:HM/EXP=1109360925/A=2593423/R=0/SIG=11el9gslf/*http:/www.n etflix.com/Default?mqso=60190075> click here <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l?M=298184.6018725.7038619.3001176/D=groups/S= :HM/A=2593423/rand=641419520> _____ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/ <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/> * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: Q-LIST-unsubscribe@... <mailto:Q-LIST-unsubscribe@...?subject=Unsubscribe> * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> Service.
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