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Exhaust System.

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

Hey Qers.
I had written about putting together a stainless exhaust system and ... you were right, it is next to impossible to bend that stuff. It appears only the mandrel bend machines can touch it.

Now I'm thinking about using steel to make a 4 pipe system. Each pipe will exit at the bottom near the oil sump. I checked out this place that ceramic coats the pipes, $20 per foot. They say it keeps the heat in the pipes better. Does anyone here believe that or is it a waste of money?

Thanks,
Mike Q200


Re: LAUGHLIN

damiantwinsport@...
 

Phil, it is this weekend at LAUGHLIN Nevada. Main deal is Saturday.
Damian Gregory N8427 Q 200

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Re: carbon fiber spars for sale

Paul Buckley
 

As a matter of interest, are the Q1 and Q2 spars the same length?
Will not using a thicker spar for the Q1 affect the airfoil thickness, and is not just a matter of enlarging the core openings?

Paul Buckley

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The Q1 spars have the same taper but go down to a smaller diam. The larger Q2 spars could be used on a Q1 with a small weight penalty. Would need to check the templates for clearance or otherwise enlarge the core openings to fit.
Peter
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Re: carbon fiber spars for sale

Marinus B. &#92;(Ben&#92;) Bosma <ben@...>
 

Does anyone have a sketch of this spar? Diameters? Taper? Weight?

-Ben
Q1, N124BB

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The Q1 spars have the same taper but go down to a smaller diam. The larger
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check the templates for clearance or otherwise enlarge the core openings to
fit.
Peter

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Passing over Laughlin Friday night

re5ande1 <ckcoleman@...>
 

Hello Q fans. Sorry I won't be able to attend Laughlin but my flight
schedule conflicts. Will be passing overhead Laughlin tonight
(Friday) on American 21 and will bid greetings from the cockpit on
123.45 sometime around 03:45GMT or 20:45PDT, possibly later if we are
delayed. Hope you have an enjoyable gathering.

Regards

Charles Coleman


Re: LAUGHLIN

John Loram <johnl@...>
 

Laughlin/Bullhead Intl Airport (KIFP) is right down at the bottom tip of
Nevada N39.10, W114.34.

-john-

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Re: LAUGHLIN

Bruce Crain
 

Today, Tommorrow, and Sunday.
Lots of luck
Bruce



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LAUGHLIN

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hELLO COULD ANYONE TELL ME WHERE AND WHEN THE LAUGHLIN FLY-IN IS, IT
WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED AS i WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT
OUR PLANES......THANKS...ALOT OF QUESTIONS....PHIL


Re: carbon fiber spars for sale

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--- In Q-LIST@..., Ralph Strahm <k_bonanza@y...> wrote:
I probably should have asked if the spars would work
on a Quickie.
Thank you
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Q-1 ? THESE WILL WORK ON Q1 OR Q2 LONG AS YOU BUILD THE LS1
CANAED...

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Re: Stuck in Oklahoma

Bruce Crain
 

Bummer Dude! Shouda' coulda' woulda' been fun!
Bruce

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I would love to but my plane is torn apart for an annual. Thanks for
thinking of me!

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

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Bad weather vibrations. Low ceilings, icing,etc.
Lynn and Hawkeye we are thinking of an impromptu fly in at Broken Bow. We
were thinking of flying in on sat. How does that sound to you Lynn? Just
for the day for lunch or something. Some place to go!
Bruce

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Re: Stuck in Oklahoma

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I would love to but my plane is torn apart for an annual. Thanks for thinking of me!

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

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Bad weather vibrations. Low ceilings, icing,etc.
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Stuck in Oklahoma

Bruce Crain
 

Bruce and Paul are stuck in Oklahoma.
Bad weather vibrations. Low ceilings, icing,etc.
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Re: carbon fiber spars for sale

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

You are right Paul the Q2 spar would be too big for the Q1 airfoil. It tapers from 105mm to 60mm and the Q1 tapers to 45mm. I should stop smokin that stuff.
Peter

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Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: carbon fiber spars for sale


As a matter of interest, are the Q1 and Q2 spars the same length?
Will not using a thicker spar for the Q1 affect the airfoil thickness, and is not just a matter of enlarging the core openings?

Paul Buckley
----- Original Message -----
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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 7:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: carbon fiber spars for sale


The Q1 spars have the same taper but go down to a smaller diam. The larger Q2 spars could be used on a Q1 with a small weight penalty. Would need to check the templates for clearance or otherwise enlarge the core openings to fit.
Peter
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Re: carbon fiber spars for sale

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

The Q1 spars have the same taper but go down to a smaller diam. The larger Q2 spars could be used on a Q1 with a small weight penalty. Would need to check the templates for clearance or otherwise enlarge the core openings to fit.
Peter

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Re: N275CH First Flight Q200 Revisited!

Jim Patillo
 

Peter lets be clear about what I said about my engine quiting.

Both instances happened very early on when I was first learning to
fly my Q which is why I advocate a boost pump properly installed for
a new pilot in a new plane.

First problem was related to a vapor lock. I heat soaked the engine
sitting on the ramp. I believe this happened because of fuel boiling
either in the fuel line or gascolator before my second flight that
day,(I had no aux tank at the time). I removed the gascolator,
rerouted the fuel line witih fire sleeve and have never had that
problem again even in heat soaked conditions.

The second problem was my own fault and stupidity. I filled the
header, the main and then the aux. I mistakenly flipped the aux valve
on before take off and the only place fuel could get out was through
the vent/ram air line. This would have happened if this line was
installed in the top or bottom of the fuselage. So installing it on
the top would not have prevented this problem. As long as the aux was
being pumped into the header with the main full, the engine would
have quit. As you can see, many of us have used the standard Q vent
setup for several years with no problems. Farnam, Malachek, Patillo,
Fisher, Martin etc.

I have no interest in spraying fuel all over my plastic canopy
everytime it overflows. Do you know what happens to plastic when fuel
is on it for a period of time? I do. My friend Bob Buckthal in LVK
has a beautiful Glasair and now has a wind screan so badly damaged it
will be in need of replacement very soon. If you have to replace the
one on your plane it will be a bitch. Did you build your plane? If so
you know how hard it is.

I think a new Q flyer should give serious thought to properly
installing a boost pump. Its during those early hours a lot of these
fuel problems surface. Getting a second chance is a good
thing.

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200

"Peter Harris" wrote:

James,
I had trouble with the plans type vent because it plugs with fuel
when air pressure is equal to gravity (at about 90mph climb). This
caused the Revmaster/Posa to almost cut out. That is why I fitted a
simple short up facing vent on top of the cowl to vent the header
tank.
This short vent clears immediately if ever it gets blocked with fuel.
Jim P has also reported a fuel starve problem with the plans vent
affecting the standard 0-200 set up with gravity feed so it must have
almost emptied the fuel bowl in that case. Others may not be aware
that their fuel supply is compromised and does not meet the flow test
when the vent is blocked, and it takes time to clear itself.If you
have a fuel bowl running low it affects the mixture and could cause
power surges as in Jim's case.
I believe the plans vent should be scrapped it is a bad design. It is
very easy to replace it with a short foolproof header vent pointing
up.
I made the mistake of following plans advice to terminate the short
header vent inside the return pipe and therefore I get occasional
fuel blown onto the canopy. The short header vent should be
terminated clear of the return pipe preferably on the passenger side
of the cowl.
The addition of an in-line pump is further insurance in case of a
leak in the fuel cap.
Peter

Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: N275CH First Flight Q200

Previous noted from Jim P.
Don't let this mishap deter you. I had a vapor lock at 60 hours
and the engine quit at about 150' off the ground in front of the
tower. I was able to get it around the pattern just as you did
by "pumping the throttle". I discovered the gascolator caused a vapor
lock, I shit canned it and the rest is history.
Regards,
Jim Patillo


Re: N275CH First Flight Q200 Revisited!

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Jim thanks for explaining how your vent was filled. Even without an aux tank the plans vent fills from time to time but not so bad as in your case so it seems as if the 0-200 setup is safe mainly because it has a fuel bowl. It is not safe with a Posa carb or throttle body with no bowl.
To me it is still a bad thing to spoil supply to the carb fuel bowl by using the plans vent which fills and then does not pass the flow test .The vent is an essential part of the fuel system and yet there is a design fault and no dual redundancy. A second vent would at least provide redundancy.
The fuel splash that I am getting happens only when the main is full and then only once in a while in turbulence and it is caused because I routed the pipe into the fuel return line, another plans fault. It would not be a concern if positioned away from the return pipe.
I agree that a fuel pump adds another level of safety.
Cheers,
Peter

<The second problem was my own fault and stupidity. I filled the
header, the main and then the aux. I mistakenly flipped the aux valve
on before take off and the only place fuel could get out was through
the vent/ram air line. This would have happened if this line was
installed in the top or bottom of the fuselage. So installing it on
the top would not have prevented this problem. As long as the aux was
being pumped into the header with the main full, the engine would
have quit. >
<I have no interest in spraying fuel all over my plastic canopy
everytime it overflows.>
<I think a new Q flyer should give serious thought to properly
installing a boost pump. Its during those early hours a lot of these
fuel problems surface. Getting a second chance is a good
thing.

Regards,
Jim Patillo N46JP Q200>

"Peter Harris" wrote:

James,
I had trouble with the plans type vent because it plugs with fuel
when air pressure is equal to gravity (at about 90mph climb). This
caused the Revmaster/Posa to almost cut out. That is why I fitted a
simple short up facing vent on top of the cowl to vent the header
tank.
This short vent clears immediately if ever it gets blocked with fuel.
Jim P has also reported a fuel starve problem with the plans vent
affecting the standard 0-200 set up with gravity feed so it must have
almost emptied the fuel bowl in that case. Others may not be aware
that their fuel supply is compromised and does not meet the flow test
when the vent is blocked, and it takes time to clear itself.If you
have a fuel bowl running low it affects the mixture and could cause
power surges as in Jim's case.
I believe the plans vent should be scrapped it is a bad design. It is
very easy to replace it with a short foolproof header vent pointing
up.
I made the mistake of following plans advice to terminate the short
header vent inside the return pipe and therefore I get occasional
fuel blown onto the canopy. The short header vent should be
terminated clear of the return pipe preferably on the passenger side
of the cowl.
The addition of an in-line pump is further insurance in case of a
leak in the fuel cap.
Peter

Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: N275CH First Flight Q200

Previous noted from Jim P.
Don't let this mishap deter you. I had a vapor lock at 60 hours
and the engine quit at about 150' off the ground in front of the
tower. I was able to get it around the pattern just as you did
by "pumping the throttle". I discovered the gascolator caused a vapor
lock, I shit canned it and the rest is history.
Regards,
Jim Patillo






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Re: N275CH First Flight Q200

James Postma <james@...>
 

Peter,

The plans type vent goes under the fuselage and spills on the ground. I did
this yesterday. If you have your vent on top, you can terminate at the top
of the tank as it can not plug with fuel.

James

----- Original Message -----
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James the vent terminating in the overflow causes another problem. When
the main is full, fuel is forced UP the overflow and into the vent Even
pilot weight on the seat makes it act like a bellows forcing fuel up the
return pipe. I terminated my header vent into the return pipe and fuel is
forced out onto the canopy.
Bad design.
Peter
----- Original Message -----
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the Q200 plans show the vent should be terminated into the overflow. The
Q2
did not have this. If you do not have the vent into the overflow, you
should not have the header tank completely full. Fill the header tank at
the pump and then turn the transfer pump off. Do not transfer fuel until
after takeoff.

James Postma

----- Original Message -----
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>
> Kevin congratulations on the way you handled the flight and for the
> positive attitude to solve the glitch.
> I had similar power surge with a gravity fed Revmaster caused by fuel
in
> the plans built vent. . Under certain conditions at about 90mph on
climb
> fuel will remain in that particular fuel vent as gravity works against
ram
> air. The vent is too long and it points down. There will be no sign of
the
> problem on the ground. I fitted a short vent upward facing and have had
no
> further problem.
> In an 0-200 the effect would cause fuel level variations in the bowl
> affecting mixture but power surge has not been reported before.
> <Fuel vent: Checked before and after flight. Not hard plugged but who
> knows
> if fuel plugged it on this flight
>
> Flow check header tank in flight position: Not in flight position but
it
> did
> flow like a racehorse with the tail on the ground. (I rechecked this as
> soon
> as I got it back to the hangar.) Actual flow I don't know.>
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf
Of
> Jim Patillo
> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:36 PM
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: N275CH First Flight Q200
>
>
>
>
> Kevin,
>
> Congratulations you're still alive to tell the story. Some have not
> been so lucky.
>
> Do you have a gascolator? Do you have fuel lines running between the
> carb and oil tank? Do you have heat sleeve over the fuel lines? Do
> you have an aux tank? How much fuel did you have on board? Are you
> sure your ram air to header was free and clear and not blocked by
> fuel or some foreign matter? Was the header fuel flowed at the carb
> in flight position (tail off, fuselage on the mains and split line on
> the deck)prior to flight? If so what was the flow in gallons per
> hour? Could you have had carb ice? Did you allow the engine to heat
> soak prior to flight?
>
> A lot of 0200 engines are much harder to turn over when they are
> hot. What you experienced may be normal especially if your temps were
> very high. Are you around anyone that can verify this condition?
>
> Don't let this mishap deter you. I had a vapor lock at 60 hours
> and the engine quit at about 150' off the ground in front of the
> tower. I was able to get it around the pattern just as you did
> by "pumping the throttle". I discovered the gascolator caused a vapor
> lock, I shit canned it and the rest is history.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Patillo
>
> --- In Q-LIST@..., "Kevin Fortin" <kfortin@p...> wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>>
>>
>>
>> Got N275CH off the ground for the first time and got a few other
> firsts as
>> well:
>>
>>
>>
>> First engine malfunction
>>
>>
>>
>> First declared emergency
>>
>>
>>
>> First time in the dirt (mud)
>>
>>
>>
>> All this took 60 or so seconds.
>>
>>
>>
>> The good news is only the airplane and the pilot got muddy.
>>
>>
>>
>> In a nutshell, I did three fast taxis, felt about as good as you
> can for
>> your first shot into the air, then decided to give her a go. I
> lined up on
>> the runway, hit the throttle and the takeoff went as much per plan
> as I
>> could expect. Then after about 10 seconds and at about 100 feet the
> engine
>> acted like it ran out of gas. Oh shit. I put the nose down, declared
>> emergency, and started heading back to the runway which at this
> point was
>> obviously too short for the job at hand. Hoping for a plan B, I hit
> the
>> throttle, the engine revved up, then slowed again after a few
> seconds.
>> Seeing a connection there I kept pumping the throttle enough to get
> her back
>> in the air and around the pattern for my "first" landing. Let's say
> the
>> approach was not textbook but I got her back to the ground without
> any
>> bounces or anything I could complain about. I let it roll out for a
> bit and
>> then started braking. This is where the adrenaline of the situation
> got the
>> better of me. I braked too hard and it started pulling a bit to the
> right.
>> When I realized how hard I was braking I let off of the brake
> (Johnson bar)
>> then ka-wam, I was headed for the other side of the runway. Damn, I
> was just
>> thinking I was going to pull the stunt off. Except for the
> embarrassment,
>> all was OK.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yesterday, and at this point, I am thinking the engine had gotten
> hot enough
>> that fuel was boiling in the carb.
>>
>>
>>
>> Today, to try to reproduce the problem, I tied the tail down and
> ran the
>> engine until the oil temp was 190 F, the previous day's takeoff oil
> temp.
>> This was when I noticed what may the real problem. After shutting
> down, when
>> I tried to move the prop, it moved with a lot of friction. I
> quickly removed
>> the cowl and the sparkplugs to take away the
> compression "resistance" and
>> found the engine was still hard to turn. Not knowing what to do I
> figured
>> lunch was in order. When I got back from lunch, and the engine had
> cooled
>> and it turned as light as I had known it before.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any ideas of what might cause this "hot" friction? In any case I
> bet an
>> engine teardown is in my future.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: carbon fiber spars for sale

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I probably should have asked if the spars would work
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Re: Q-200 Microsoft Flight Simulator 2004

REBECCA SIMPSON
 

I can get 2 versions flying just fine. I do not get 100% of the options available as you would in standard MSFS. Still flies like a cessna.
The DF group suggests X Plane and the DF they have created for it. They indicate it is more realistic. I could forward the fles later from my home pc ...
Tad

William Swearingen <william_van_swearingen@...> wrote:
Did you get all the kinks worked out? How do I get a copy of the file?

Thanks,
Bill Swearingen

larry severson <larry2@...> wrote:
At 03:39 PM 4/12/2005 +0000, you wrote:

How do I get a copy of your updated aircraft.cfg file?
I find that I need some more work. Last night it seemed on, but I am now
getting an 8 degree pitchbuck at 80MPH. with a TOW of 1100 pounds. I will
get it right, and make available to everyone.


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