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Re: Update on Phil Lankford

damiantwinsport@...
 

Thank God they weren't injured worse. Something to be said for flying inside
a motorcycle helmet.
Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q 200


Re: AirVenture Cup Race is tomorrow

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Sam congratulations. Now I KNOW the Q200 means 200mph.
Cheers, Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: Letempt, Jeffrey MR
To: 'Q-LIST@...'
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 5:30 AM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] AirVenture Cup Race is tomorrow


Sam,

Congratulations on your second place finish!!!! 200.31 MPH over a 500 mile
course - WOW!!!!

Hope to see you later this week at AirVenture.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
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Sam Hoskins
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 9:45 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] AirVenture Cup Race is tomorrow


Guys, I'm just walking out the door and thought I'd let you know about this
year's AirVenture Cup Race.

Today I fly to Wright Brothers - Dayton (KMGY) to stage for the race.
http://www.airventure.org/2005/events/avcup/

There are six entrants in the Sprint Class (240 cu in or less); me, four
Vari-Ezes, and a Mazda rotary powered RV-6. Rob Martinson is back in his
very fast Vari-Eze.

Rob has won every year he has entered. He was out last year for some very
serious health problems and I was able to take advantage of the opportunity.
I may not be able to beat Rob, but I am creeping up on him.

Tomorrow, Sunday, the race goes from Dayton then we make runway passes at
Rock Falls, IL (KSQI), Rockford, IL (KRFD), then the finish line is a pass
at a private airport at Lomira, WI. We all land at Fond DuLac and
reconnoiter for a coordinated arrival into Oshkosh.

If you are interested, the race results will be posted at the link above -
maybe in the evening.

I will be parked with the rest of the race planes on the main flight line,
just north of show center. Be sure and stop by and say hi.

See you there!

Sam

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Re: Propellor pains

damiantwinsport@...
 

N8427, suffered a wooden prop failure which caused a foced landing on a
roadway., an oncoming car forced pilot and plane into a ditch and struck a utility
pole. Pilot walked away Now I am reconstructing aircraft.
Think about it for a moment...... Carbon blades are made from continuos
fibres able to withstand much higher processing than wood. wood props are
constructed out of laminated wood..... ie shorter fibres that are discontinous, hmmm
me stainless leading edge carbon NO Doubt about it!
regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q 200 (under repair)


Re: Fly Harley

damiantwinsport@...
 

Ron S&S is now building a 145cu" V twin aircooled pushrod motor puts out 130
hp and about 120 ft lbs of torque at 4,000 rpm, there is a compaqny selling
AIR HOGS. check it out.
Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


Re: Older Rotax 503

rondefly@...
 

David, Then with the reduction boxes that have 3 sets of gears and a ground
adjustable prop, total adjustment is possible for altitude/power
combinations. Sounds interesting. I really am not looking to make a hot rod
out of it but just to have enough power to get off at high alt. Airports.
That is the reason why I am also looking at the possibility of a turbo or
nitrous boost for a smaller engine. Right now there is not much I have to do
to the airframe except prepare for paint which I only do when I am not
working on the Q200, and that is only on the weekends. Thanks for the info.

Ron T

Ron & Carolyn Triano Q-200 N4710P
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-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On Behalf Of
David J. Gall
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:36 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Older Rotax 503

Ron,

Some follow-up: Norm Howell set an FAI record as follows (taken from the FAI
website):


Sub-class : C-1a/0 (Landplanes: take off weight less than 300 kg)
Group 3 : turbo-jet
Speed over a recognised course : 233.54 km/h

Date of flight: 27/07/1988
Pilot: Norman E. HOWELL (USA)
Course/place: Enid, OK (USA)

Aircraft:
Quickie (1 Rotax 503 Dual Carb, 52 hp)
Registered 'N17UQ'

Database ID 1107


Note that FAI incorrectly listed the Rotax 503 DC as a "turbo-jet"!!! The
speed of 233.54 km/hr works out to 145.115mph.

That record was set in 1988. In the Jan/Feb 1990 Q-Talk (pg. 8), Norm talks
about his engine and gearbox. He says he recommeds the 2.238:1 ratio. He
says he's using a 2.00:1 and does not recommend it.

With the 2.00:1, he ran a Prince 2 blade 46D x 53P prop, and that it's "like
third gear on a Porsche... you go like a bat out of hell, but you are slow
off the line. I still don't know how fast mine will go since airframe
redline occurs before engine redline and it's still accelerating."(!)

He talks about the marginal takeoff and climb performance, then recommeds
the 2.238:1, indicating 1200 fpm climbs at 75mph. He says he'll report on
the performance differences when he finishes changing over to the 2.238:1. I
haven't had time to look up the follow-up report.

FYI, Howell held four of the five records ever set in a Quickie. All have
been surpassed. He also held one record in a Long-EZ, and is the current
holder of seven records set in a Boeing C-17 Globemaster.


David J. Gall



-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
On Behalf Of David J. Gall
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 12:30 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Older Rotax 503

Ron,

Norm Howell built a sweet Quickie called the "Ugly Quickling"
in the 80's.
He set some records in it with his highly modified Onan (not
fire-breathing, just intake, exhaust, and >>lotsa good
cooling mods<< hint hint). After he got tired of the Onan
(poor climb), he switched to a Rotax 503 with a 2.00:1
gearbox. I think he used the Miller-style cowl. The gearbox
necessitated a tiny prop, with quite high pitch. The climb
was a little better than with the Onan, but the cruise speed
was way up there. I don't recall a solid number from anything
published, but IIRC there was something about 150mph at 50%
power and some talk about the airframe redline being around
170mph and that being easily do-able at cruise....

I'd have to look things up to verify all the foregoing so
don't take it as gospel. Do your own research. Sport Aviation
magazine Sept. 1987 page 48 for the Onan powered version.
Q-Talk back issues for the Rotax upgrade info (sorry, I don't
have issue numbers).

BTW, I have a 503 set aside for my Quickie for after the Onan
scares me too much. The oil injection is a necessity in my
opinion. The non-injected engines rely on the fuel mix for
lubrication and at high airspeed/low throttle, the
lubrication just isn't enough for the high RPM at which the
prop is turning the engine such as during descent (like on
that mock strafing run!). With oil injection, the oil
delivery is metered in part by throttle setting and in part
by RPM, so at low throttle/high RPM you get a "richer" oil
mix and (hopefully!) adequate lubrication. Of course,
ultralights don't suffer the 'detriment' of high speeds so
ignore your ultralight buddies' advice on this issue. Also,
ignore the ultralight prop manufacturer's recommendations
(Powerfin, Ivo, Warp, etc.) and get a Catto prop (or
equivalent) for your 503 SuperQuickie....


David J. Gall


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Re: Spar question ( core)

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Damian we found that the BID glass wrap was not properly alligned +/- 45deg. and it gave very little hoop strength. My broken spar looked like a paint brush. I would recomment wrapping these original spars with additional CF BID at +/- 45deg.
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: damiantwinsport@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 3:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Spar question ( core)


Sam, this is exactly what I observed on James Postma's broken spar the Glass wrap appeared as a separate entity very clean inter laminar shear.No covalent bonding .I cut a piece of it away for examination and discovered the carbon underneath.

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Kittle <skittle@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:32:30 -0700
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Spar question ( core)


I bought a set of spars from Larry Howell with the knowledge that one
had damage (cracks approximately 22" from the large end running toward
the small end). The spar was also without any wrap when received. I
repaired this spar by performing a 45 degree BID wrap from tip to tip, a
second BID wrap from the large end for 2/3's of the length and a
third wrap from the large end for 1/3 the length. I then hot-wired a
30" tapered plug from blue foam, covered the plug with BID and pushed it
into the large end of the spar.

The big surprise was the yellow wrap on the supposedly good spar peeled
off as though peeling a banana. The repair for this spar was a light
sanding, full length BID wrap outside and a 30" tapered plug of blue
foam as above.

Regards,
Sam

Jim Patillo wrote:

>Larry,
>
>How far in board? Because when I cut into my spar at about BL 14 for
>the spar repair a few years ago there was no foam at that point. I
>do recall foam at the ends of mine when installed new.
>
>However, when Sam Kittle purchased his spars I don't think his had
>any foam at all. They may not have been factory issue though. Sam
>You may want to chime in here and explain what you did.
>
>Jim P.
>
>--- In Q-LIST@..., Larry Hamm <LDHAMM@X...> wrote:
>
>
>>Well, maybe 99% correct. My spars have foam inboard, then empty
>>
>>
>all the
>
>
>>way to the tips.
>>Larry Hamm
>>
>>Jim Patillo wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Damian,
>>>
>>>You are 100% correct!
>>>
>>>Jim P.
>>>--- In Q-LIST@..., damiantwinsport@a... wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Mike, I have never seen a virgin QAC carbon LS1 spar only
>>>>
>>>>
>remnants
>
>
>>>in broken canards. I beleive that from my observation of such
>>>
>>>
>and
>
>
>>>from Peter Harris's info that the QAC supplied carbon spars had
>>>
>>>
>foam
>
>
>>>either bonded or poured into each end to facilitate the rounding
>>>
>>>
>at
>
>
>>>the mid joint and at the pant( plans indicate this as
>>>
>>>
>well) .From my
>
>
>>>examination of post crash spars this foam core did not extend
>>>
>>>
>from BL
>
>
>>>0 to BL 10 as there was no evidence at that broken part. The
>>>
>>>
>spars
>
>
>>>that Peter Harris and associates are producing claim and from
>>>
>>>
>the
>
>
>>>spars I have that are - 20" have foam at least to that point
>>>
>>>
>although
>
>
>>>I have yet to excavate and see how far it extends past BL20. A
>>>foamcore in a structural round spar would indeed stiffen the
>>>structure depending of course upon the modulus or in other words
>>>
>>>
>the
>
>
>>>resistance to crush that foam had.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>So in a nutshell the QAC spars for LS1s appear to only have a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>smalll length of core at either end but not the full length.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Damian Gregory N8427 Q200
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Mike Perry <dmperry1012@c...>
>>>>To: Q-LIST@...
>>>>Sent: Mon, 04 Jul 2005 10:21:42 -0700
>>>>Subject: [Q-LIST] Spar question
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Can anyone explain more about the structure of the spars and the
>>>>"core?" Is there a core in some spars but not others? Is
>>>>
>>>>
>there a
>
>
>>>core
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>that is nonstructural (unlike the foam core in our wings)? Note
>>>>
>>>>
>>>below
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Damian Gregory talks about ". . . the foam inside got hot . . ."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>while John
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>ten Have says ". . . there is no spar core."
>>>>
>>>>Mike Perry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On 5-23-05 I [Mike Perry] wrote: Question: If the failure is
>>>>>
>>>>>
>due
>
>
>>>to damage
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>induced by the test
>>>>>apparatus, would this be damage to the Carbon Fiber or damage
>>>>>
>>>>>
>to
>
>
>>>the spar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>core? If the carbon matrix, could we simply apply a carbon-
>>>>>
>>>>>
>fiber
>
>
>>>spar cap?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>On 5-24-05 John ten Have replied:
>>>>>
>>>>>Damage to carbon resin matrix, there is no spar core.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>At 03:16 AM 7/4/2005 -0400, Damian Gregory wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> [snip]
>>>>> Thanks for the help with the dimensions it took a lot of
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>guessing out
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>of the deal. On first look they did not appear to have been cut
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>but after
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>looking real close you can see theat there is a large dia swirl
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>from
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>possibly a large abrasive chop saw and there are signs that the
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>foam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>inside got hot and shrunk away from cut zone.
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Damian Gregory N8427 Q200
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>http://www.quickiebuilders.org
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>
>
>
>
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Re: Short stuff

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

James the spars that Damian has are exactly the right length for a Q1. Maybe just a coincidence?
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: James Postma
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Short stuff


Damian,

I wonder if the spars you have could have been defective due to testing and
someone just cut it off at BL 20 which is the area where my spar broke.

James Postma
Q2 Revmaster N145EX
Q2 Revmaster with LS-1
Q200 N8427
Steilacoom, Washington
(253) 584-1182 9:00 to 8:00 PDT
May your header tank be always full and your wings right side up.

----- Original Message -----
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To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Short stuff


> Peter, Yeah... well all I get is a big sorrry too bad so sad.
No offer of reimbursement. What's a guy to do but punt. They would make a
good spinaker pole for my sailboat though too.
> Thanks for the help with the dimensions it took a lot of guessing out of
the deal. On first look they did not appear to have been cut but after
looking real close you can see theat there is a large dia swirl from
possibly a large abrasive chop saw and there are signs that the foam inside
got hot and shrunk away from cut zone.
> Regards,
> Damian Gregory N8427 Q200
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 00:34:43 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] B&C Starter and Lightspeed Ignition Update
>
>
> Damian if they were sold to you as 0-200 spars and they are not then maybe
you
> could get a refund. Seems like someone might have shortened the spars for
use on
> a Q1 then found them too thick.
> Peter
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: damiantwinsport@...
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 9:05 AM
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] B&C Starter and Lightspeed Ignition Update
>
>
> Sam , the overall length is 88" so no go there.
>
> Regards,
> Damian Gregory N8427 Q200
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam Kittle <skittle@...>
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Sun, 03 Jul 2005 10:45:37 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] B&C Starter and Lightspeed Ignition Update
>
>
> Damian,
>
> Have you checked the diameter of these spars with the LS-1 templates?
> You may be ok if the overall length is still 100".
>
> Regards,
> Sam
>
> damiantwinsport@... wrote:
>
> >Doug, Phil said they were Q200 spars and I sent him a cashiers check at
his
> request .when they got here I measured them and they were too short and
the
> Dia.
> did not match Peter Harris' info by alot.I contacted Peter to see what
they
> might be for and he had no idea other than they may have been cut.
> > Upon examination and calculating taper I realized that they were
indee
> shortened at the big end. Metric vs inches? I don't know, but at least
they
> are
> the same taper!
> >
> >Regards,
> >Damian Gregory N8427 Q200
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
> >To: Q-LIST@...
> >Sent: Sat, 2 Jul 2005 07:54:22 -0500
> >Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] B&C Starter and Lightspeed Ignition Update
> >
> >
> >What do you mean the spar was 20" too short??? Isn't it based on the
> >original Quickie spar?
> >
> >Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
> >www.asignabove.net
> >Omaha NE
> >N25974
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <damiantwinsport@...>
> >To: <Q-LIST@...>
> >Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2005 5:56 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] B&C Starter and Lightspeed Ignition Update
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Ron good to hear from you as a matter of fact I have been getting alot
> >>done on the firewall ,I have my engine mocked up. The swing away
mounts on
> >>, the removeable firewall box installed just have to make the
stringers.
> >>The Spars I got from Phil off this list for my canard are a different
> >>story. 20 inches too short but the right taper. I have a freind who
will
> >>let me use his big Clausing lathe with a 48" taper attatchment so I
can
> >>cut plugs to use in constructing a big Lego joint. The idea is to make
> >>tapered plugs out of urethane foam . Bond them together with the
correct
> >>Anhedral and sweep . Then make a plaster two sided mold over it. Then
cast
> >>washout plaster into that. Dry the washout plaster then release it
with
> >>pvc then wind and lay-up pre preg over it and then run it in the
> >>autoclave. The clave is just long enough . If I time it right I can
get it
> >>done at the autoclave certification class and the processing will be
zip.
> >>The angle peice will have minor tapers on the ends that will fit
inside
> >>the too short spars. I will bond them together then run carbon braid
over
> >>the joint . I have found a new resin formula RT cure 8 hr pot life
for
> >>the slow catalyst and it is like caro syrup so it wets out easy and
gives
> >>me plenty of time to get vacum bags on it. I am going to do some peel
> >>tests against the QAC parts to make sure they are compatable. I got a
> >>gallon kit as a sample and put a deck on my Daughter's surfboard as it
is
> >>UV protected as well. It worked sweet on the board I used IR lights in
a
> >>box to speed up the cure and the elevated post cure temp gives it
better
> >>mechanicals as well.( LONGBOARDS RULE)
> >>I am going to have my right shoulder fixed June 22 (ripped tendons and
> >>torn rotator cuff 32cm) so I will be one handed for a while. I am
rushing
> >>all the projects out as quick as I can ( Thank God for Vicodin)
> >> I saw you are looking for oil filters for your engine you must be
> >>gettting close to firing that puppy up!
> >>Man I wish I was as close as you are to flying!
> >>Regards,
> >>Damian Gregory N8427 Q200
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Ron <rondefly@...>
> >>To: Q-LIST@...
> >>Sent: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 22:12:17 -0700
> >>Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] B&C Starter and Lightspeed Ignition Update
> >>
> >>
> >>Say Damian, You have been pretty quiet lately, getting any done on
that
> >>canard? Will you be coming to the livermore fly-in? Guess that's the
next
> >>one for me. Been too busy, and Momma's to do list is cutting into my Q
> >>building time on the weekends. Still am sneaking some time on the Q
though
> >>each week.
> >>
> >>Ron T
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Ron Triano N4710P
>
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> >>
> >> _____
> >>
> >>From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf
Of
> >>damiantwinsport@...
> >>Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:49 PM
> >>To: Q-LIST@...
> >>Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] B&C Starter and Lightspeed Ignition Update
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Losing weight is simple ,put a smaller battery in and remove that
electric
> >>srarter . Hand crank it like I saw Sam H doing. (crafty devil)
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>Damian Gregory N8427 Q200
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: French <LJFrench@...>
> >>To: Q-LIST@...
> >>Sent: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 12:37:20 -0500
> >>Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] B&C Starter and Lightspeed Ignition Update
> >>
> >>
> >>Hmmmmm......He really is not giving us very many clues at this point.
> >>Wants
> >>to keep up with Sam and shedding 30 lbs. - must be somethting with the
> >>engine......hopped up Jabiru maybe?????
> >>LF
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Can't let Sam
> >>>Hoskins get to far out front, you know.
> >>>
> >>>I wish now I had absolutely kept weight to a minimum. I
> >>>plan on extricating 30 or so lbs soon.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Jim Patillo N46JP Q200
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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Re: Short end

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Damian I would like to hear Phil explain how and where he bought these spars in Australia because he certainly did not buy them from me as I have never made short spars.I am not aware of anyone else making these spars in Australia. What's the story Phil? Foam in core is found in the original spars and is not my invention.
Peter

----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Short end


Doug, yes they were second hand Phil told me they were made in Australia and were about 8 ' long and in the original packaging. He even sent pics and I saw that they had white foam as the Harris spars had, and they were for a Q200. SOLD said I ! I have the means to easily NDT the spars for nothing as my NDT Professor has done favors for me in the past and does not mind if I use the facilities under his supervision.

Regards,
Damian Gregory N8427 Q200


-----Original Message-----
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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 14:46:16 -0500
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Short end


So, the spars you got were not directly from Peter, but second hand?

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 2:36 PM
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> Paul, You are right I could raise a stink with a guy halfway across my
> continent. His defense is I should have asked him what the exact
> dimensions were before shipping . Rebuttal would be Q200 spars are Q200
> spars. Rebuttal to that would be they were Q200 spars just shortened.
> Rebuttal ... ad nauseum .
> The price I got them for I guess 500.00 U.S. plus freight vs. the Harris
> spars justifies the added tooling and engineering to almost bring it out
> even.
> The disapointment ... priceless. If one wanted to screw with me they did
> a good job ,but not one I cannot overcome.
>
> Regards,
> Damian Gregory N8427 Q200
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Buckley <paulbuckley@...>
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 19:55:32 +0100
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Veneer Cables
>
>
> Damian, if the guy sold you those spars specifically for the Q200 and they
> are
> not correct, I am puzzled as to why you can't insist on a refund.
> I watch 'Judge Judy' and I am sure she wouldn't like that!!
>
> Paul Buckley
> TriQ-200
> Cheshire, England.
> still building......................................
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: damiantwinsport@...
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Veneer Cables
>
>
> Ron, as we say down here at the Beach "Bummer Dude" . On The bright side
> the
> decimal points on the cost aren't in too wrong of a place and it's not
> like what
> I am facing adding 20" to my spars.
>
>
> Regards,
> Damian Gregory N8427 Q200
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rondefly@...
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 11:26:42 -0700
> Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Veneer Cables
>
>
> Damian, that's not possible, the cable is not accusable near the area
> where
> the ball fits into the slot. That area is within a tube that is swaged on
> so
> I could not bend the cable. I called ACS this AM and they gave me the MFG
> phone #, the manufacturer told me they are not able to exchange the knobs
> once the cable is together and ACS should have not told me they were
> exchangeable. I called ACS back and they told me the person who told me
> they
> were exchangeable was wrong. All they will do is sell the cables to me at
> their cost, which they said is 41.00 each. So I guess I purchase two new
> cables. I will go that way but in the meantime I am going to remove the
> swaged end and see if I could get it back together that way and have the
> end
> swaged again. I have nothing to loose with two bad cables.
> Ron T
>
> Ron & Carolyn Triano Q-200 N4710P
> http://bld01.ipowerweb.com/contentmanagement/websites/rtrianoc/page8.html
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On Behalf Of
> damiantwinsport@...
> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 10:55 AM
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Veneer Cables
>
> Ron, Areyou trying to do this with the collar instaled? If so unbolt it
> from
> the dash and view inside with the cable out or just to the wire ,make
> sure
> the ball is in it's detent hole then flex the cable to push it down while
> sliding assembly back together.
> Regards,
> Damian Gregory N8427 Q200
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Mon, 4 Jul 2005 20:58:49 -0700
> Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Veneer Cables
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> Guess I will let everyone know how to do it as soon as I find out, I know
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> Ron,
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> I have them on both my mixture and throttle and they work fine. I think
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Re: Older Rotax 503

Kerri & Mark <kmfitzgerald@...>
 

Mr Martin Burns
would you mind sending a photo to me as well I'm in the throws of getting a Q1 that will need a power plant and I'm looking at all options
Mark Fitzgerald
Timaru
New Zealand
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----- Original Message -----
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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 1:09 AM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Older Rotax 503


Ron,

It is not the height of the engine that is the problem. Because the Kohler is a V twin, the crankshaft is at the bottom, below the cylinders. This shape also means that it will fit snugly agains the firewall, keeping the c.g. well aft.

I will email you a photo of the setup offline. The reduction drive is a purpose made cog-belt drive.

Martin Burns
Q1 G-BKSE Scotland

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: 02 August 2005 1:36 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Older Rotax 503


Martin, Do you have any details on the reduction drive you are using, picts,
etc. Is the Kohler engine much higher than the Onan? I've also thought of
using a Kohler or Honda engine with a turbo or Nitrous boost for takeoff
only to get out of my high alt airport.

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Re: Older Rotax 503

Martin Burns
 

David,

As I have noted before, the problem with the 35 hp Briggs & Stratton is the weight (and power/weight ratio). I think it comes in at about 130 lbs. A 64 hp VW is about 160 lbs, so it has a much better power/weight ratio.

Martin Burns

Q1 G-BKSE Scotland

-----Original Message-----
From: David J. Gall [mailto:David@...]
Sent: 03 August 2005 7:36 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Older Rotax 503


Why use nitrous? Get a 35hp Briggs & Stratton big block engine. At
993cc/60ci there's just no substitute for cubic inches....


David J. Gall


Re: Older Rotax 503

David J. Gall
 

Why use nitrous? Get a 35hp Briggs & Stratton big block engine. At
993cc/60ci there's just no substitute for cubic inches....


David J. Gall

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of rondefly@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 5:36 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Older Rotax 503

Martin, Do you have any details on the reduction drive you
are using, picts, etc. Is the Kohler engine much higher than
the Onan? I've also thought of using a Kohler or Honda engine
with a turbo or Nitrous boost for takeoff only to get out of
my high alt airport.

Ron T

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Re: Older Rotax 503

David J. Gall
 

Ron,

Some follow-up: Norm Howell set an FAI record as follows (taken from the FAI
website):


Sub-class : C-1a/0 (Landplanes: take off weight less than 300 kg)
Group 3 : turbo-jet
Speed over a recognised course : 233.54 km/h

Date of flight: 27/07/1988
Pilot: Norman E. HOWELL (USA)
Course/place: Enid, OK (USA)

Aircraft:
Quickie (1 Rotax 503 Dual Carb, 52 hp)
Registered 'N17UQ'

Database ID 1107


Note that FAI incorrectly listed the Rotax 503 DC as a "turbo-jet"!!! The
speed of 233.54 km/hr works out to 145.115mph.

That record was set in 1988. In the Jan/Feb 1990 Q-Talk (pg. 8), Norm talks
about his engine and gearbox. He says he recommeds the 2.238:1 ratio. He
says he's using a 2.00:1 and does not recommend it.

With the 2.00:1, he ran a Prince 2 blade 46D x 53P prop, and that it's "like
third gear on a Porsche... you go like a bat out of hell, but you are slow
off the line. I still don't know how fast mine will go since airframe
redline occurs before engine redline and it's still accelerating."(!)

He talks about the marginal takeoff and climb performance, then recommeds
the 2.238:1, indicating 1200 fpm climbs at 75mph. He says he'll report on
the performance differences when he finishes changing over to the 2.238:1. I
haven't had time to look up the follow-up report.

FYI, Howell held four of the five records ever set in a Quickie. All have
been surpassed. He also held one record in a Long-EZ, and is the current
holder of seven records set in a Boeing C-17 Globemaster.


David J. Gall

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
On Behalf Of David J. Gall
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 12:30 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Older Rotax 503

Ron,

Norm Howell built a sweet Quickie called the "Ugly Quickling"
in the 80's.
He set some records in it with his highly modified Onan (not
fire-breathing, just intake, exhaust, and >>lotsa good
cooling mods<< hint hint). After he got tired of the Onan
(poor climb), he switched to a Rotax 503 with a 2.00:1
gearbox. I think he used the Miller-style cowl. The gearbox
necessitated a tiny prop, with quite high pitch. The climb
was a little better than with the Onan, but the cruise speed
was way up there. I don't recall a solid number from anything
published, but IIRC there was something about 150mph at 50%
power and some talk about the airframe redline being around
170mph and that being easily do-able at cruise....

I'd have to look things up to verify all the foregoing so
don't take it as gospel. Do your own research. Sport Aviation
magazine Sept. 1987 page 48 for the Onan powered version.
Q-Talk back issues for the Rotax upgrade info (sorry, I don't
have issue numbers).

BTW, I have a 503 set aside for my Quickie for after the Onan
scares me too much. The oil injection is a necessity in my
opinion. The non-injected engines rely on the fuel mix for
lubrication and at high airspeed/low throttle, the
lubrication just isn't enough for the high RPM at which the
prop is turning the engine such as during descent (like on
that mock strafing run!). With oil injection, the oil
delivery is metered in part by throttle setting and in part
by RPM, so at low throttle/high RPM you get a "richer" oil
mix and (hopefully!) adequate lubrication. Of course,
ultralights don't suffer the 'detriment' of high speeds so
ignore your ultralight buddies' advice on this issue. Also,
ignore the ultralight prop manufacturer's recommendations
(Powerfin, Ivo, Warp, etc.) and get a Catto prop (or
equivalent) for your 503 SuperQuickie....


David J. Gall


Re: Update on Phil Lankford

Mike Perry <dmperry1012@...>
 

Sternal Fractures often occur from blunt trauma to the chest, including
being thrown against a seat belt. Theses are more common in older patients
because the bones are less flexible. The main worry is not the fracture
itself, but possible damage to the Myocardium (heart muscle) under the
sternum. Most patients are admitted to the hospital for 1 - 2 days
observation due to the risk of heart problems including arrhythmias. Most
patients recover without major problems even if they have initial
arrhythmias, but it depends somewhat on the underlying cardio-thoracic
damage. Reference:

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic206.htm

Mike Perry (D. Michael Perry, MD)
Emergency Medicine 1977-1987
Family Practice 1987 -- Current

At 09:05 PM 8/2/2005 -0400, you wrote:
Jim

Phil has a busted sternum.
I am really puzzled by this ... considering the shoulder belts in a Q.

It takes a LOT of force to break someone's sternum.
Usually the villain is a steering wheel.

True, the belt hard point could have moved, leading me to wonder if
the plane had some kind of aux mounting for a GPS unit ... or the angle
of impact, coupled with moving "hard points" could mean he hit the
center stick as his body folded in toward the middle ... if there were
no other mounting post in his path.

Like every one else, I was concerned for their survival, and relieved their
condition is no worse.

Gene

Gene


Re: Update on Phil Lankford

Mike Perry <dmperry1012@...>
 

I'm about 100 miles from Delano; I can drive or fly over on Saturday
only. Contact me off line or phone for help on Saturday:

dmperry1012@...

805.466.8311

Mike Perry

At 03:41 PM 8/2/2005 -0700, you wrote:
Like I said earlier, I'm only 60 miles from there and can certainly muster
some
man-power to move the plane. I have use of a rather large trailer (remnant
from
our recent office relocation) and would certainly be willing to help all I
can.

If you could put me in touch with said local EAA member, I'll take it from
there.

Pat


Re: Update on Phil Lankford

Steve <sham@...>
 

Just heard about Phil... Good to hear he is OK as well as his wife. Hope for a quick recovery.

Steve Ham

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Re: Update on Phil Lankford

Kris Browne <l_kris_browne@...>
 

Thank God they're going to be OK.

Actually, a busted sternum isn't surprising to me - we had a local ultra-light driver 'pancake' a KOLB ultra-light on a forced approach here last summer - besides some spinal injury he also suffered a broken sternum and was fully restrained by a 4 point harness - neither his chest nor any of his upper body collided with anything in the cockpit. It leads to me to believe that the high G force of the sudden stop coupled with the geometry of the harness causes some severe multiple stresses on the old skeleton...


<br><br><br>----Original Message Follows----<br>From: GeneKnapp2@...<br>Reply-To: Q-LIST@...<br>To: Q-LIST@...<br>Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Update on Phil Lankford<br>Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 21:05:12 EDT<br><br>Jim<br><br>Phil has a busted sternum.<br>I am really puzzled by this ... considering the shoulder belts in a Q.<br><br>It takes a LOT of force to break someone's sternum.<br>Usually the villain is a steering wheel.<br><br>True, the belt hard point could have moved, leading me to wonder if<br>the plane had some kind of aux mounting for a GPS unit ... or the angle<br>of impact, coupled with moving "hard points" could mean he hit the<br>center stick as his body folded in toward the middle ... if there were<br>no other mounting post in his path.<br><br>Like every one else, I was concerned for their survival, and relieved their<br> condition is no worse.<br><br>Gene<br><br>Gene<br><br><br>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]<br><br>


Re: Update on Phil Lankford

French <LJFrench@...>
 

I am so sad to hear about Phil and Cherie but am relieved that the consequences were not worse. I met Phil for the first time just a few short days ago at Oshkosh and it was such a pleasure speaking with him. I wish the best for them in a speedy recovery.

Sincerely
Lynn French

----- Original Message -----
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To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Update on Phil Lankford


I'm so sorry to hear about Phil's accident. Dianna and I just spent a nice week at OSH with these wonderful people. I hope that they have a full recovery. Sincerely Dave and Dianna Dugas

Jim Patillo <logistics_engineering@...> wrote:
Prior post should have said "after contacting the ground" not the
runway.

Jim P

--- In Q-LIST@..., "Doug Humble" <hawkidoug@c...> wrote:
Thanks for the update Jim!

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
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To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:07 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Update on Phil Lankford



Guys,

I talked with Phil about 30 minutes ago. He wanted me to let you
all
know both he and Cherie are OK but badly banged up, sore and
scratched. Phil has a busted sternum. Cherie is sleeping at
present.
His brothers are with them. they are at Kern County Medical
Center
near Bakersfield, CA.

Phil's Amar Demuth prop seperated the airplane at 9500'. About
75%
was left when he shut the engine down. He set up for a glide
about 11
miles out but was about 30' short when he made contact. The
plane
took out about 160' of fence then went inverted after contacting
the
runway, the canard seperated and the canopy busted loose as they
were
sliding upside down. It is totaled, I believe. They both escaped
and
no fire was seen.

Had the accident happened 30 minutes earlier it would have been
a
different story. They were direct from Wenover, UT to Southern
Cal
when this happened, (very treacherous territory). They are both
very
lucky and I for one will say another prayer for them both when I
finish this e-mail.

Jim Patillo




--- In Q-LIST@..., "Letempt, Jeffrey MR"
<jeffrey.letempt@u...> wrote:
I am so glad to hear that Phil and his wife are doing well. I
met
Phil last
Friday at the homebuilt showcase fly-by flight briefing at
OSH. I
took a
couple of pictures of Phil and his plane right before the fly-
by.
One in
the staging area and one while sitting on the runway right
before
we took
off. He was #13 and I was #14 on the fly-by.

I posted 5 pictures of Phil's plane in the photos section in a
folder called
AirVenture 2005.

Jeff
Dragonfly N41GK

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On
Behalf Of
Doug Humble
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Q-List
Subject: [Q-LIST] Update on Phil Lankford

I called the Kern Medical Center in Bakersfield CA and I'm
happy to
report
that both Phil and his wife are doing well and are staying in
the
hospital
for observation but may get to go home tomorrow. I spoke to
the
nurse in
the ER who gave me this info. I told her to give our best
wishes to
both of
them.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974


Re: Propellor pains

David J. Gall
 

How about a GSC or Powerfin? They both have better airfoils than the Warp Drive or Ivoprop, so should give results more like a custom wood prop would give. I once flew another brand of airplane using a Precision Propellers ground adjustable prop and it flew 8-10 mph faster than with an in-flight adjustable Ivoprop. My rumor patrol tells me that the Powerfin blade profile is a copy of a Craig Catto design....


David J. Gall

----- Original Message -----
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To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Propellor pains
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 17:27:37 -0600



4. For the price I would rather consider a Warp Drive. Any opinions? The
manufacturer of my prop is obviously a wooden prop enthusiast, and
guarantees me that the Warp wouldn't perform even nearly as well a my wooden
prop. Any comments?

Regards,

Dawie.

I had a Q-1 with a Rotax and had a Warp Drive prop and a Prince wooden prop
for it. The Prince far outperformed the Warp.
Just one data point.

Bounds
Former Q-driver.


Re: Update on Phil Lankford

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Jim P., If Phil's brothers needs a trailer, it sounds like Pat has one. Pat, can you post a phone number where you can be reached if necessary?

Good work guys!

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Panzera" <panzera@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 5:41 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: Update on Phil Lankford


Like I said earlier, I'm only 60 miles from there and can certainly muster some
man-power to move the plane. I have use of a rather large trailer (remnant from
our recent office relocation) and would certainly be willing to help all I can.

If you could put me in touch with said local EAA member, I'll take it from
there.

Pat


-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Doug
Humble
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 2:49 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Update on Phil Lankford

I just got a call for a local Delano CA resident who is an EAA member. He
recognized the wreck a/c as a Quickie and found our web site and then found
my number. 1st he wanted to know if I had heard about the accident. Then he
brought up some good points. He thought maybe one of our group nearby could
help get the plane moved to a secure location.

Now I have no idea if the investigation is done, but the plane is sitting
where someone could get to it. I'm thinking that some opportunistic kind of
person might eye the avionics in the plane.

Is there anyone in CA that might be able to help in this matter? I first
thought that Phil's family might take care of this, but they will be more
concerned about Phil & Cheri. I have this local resident phone # to call him
back if necessary. Maybe the local EAA chapter could help.

Any suggestions? I'm new at this, do these things take care of themselves or
do we need to help?

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 3:07 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Update on Phil Lankford



Guys,

I talked with Phil about 30 minutes ago. He wanted me to let you all
know both he and Cherie are OK but badly banged up, sore and
scratched. Phil has a busted sternum. Cherie is sleeping at present.
His brothers are with them. they are at Kern County Medical Center
near Bakersfield, CA.

Phil's Amar Demuth prop seperated the airplane at 9500'. About 75%
was left when he shut the engine down. He set up for a glide about 11
miles out but was about 30' short when he made contact. The plane
took out about 160' of fence then went inverted after contacting the
runway, the canard seperated and the canopy busted loose as they were
sliding upside down. It is totaled, I believe. They both escaped and
no fire was seen.

Had the accident happened 30 minutes earlier it would have been a
different story. They were direct from Wenover, UT to Southern Cal
when this happened, (very treacherous territory). They are both very
lucky and I for one will say another prayer for them both when I
finish this e-mail.

Jim Patillo




--- In Q-LIST@..., "Letempt, Jeffrey MR"
<jeffrey.letempt@u...> wrote:
I am so glad to hear that Phil and his wife are doing well. I met
Phil last
Friday at the homebuilt showcase fly-by flight briefing at OSH. I
took a
couple of pictures of Phil and his plane right before the fly-by.
One in
the staging area and one while sitting on the runway right before
we took
off. He was #13 and I was #14 on the fly-by.

I posted 5 pictures of Phil's plane in the photos section in a
folder called
AirVenture 2005.

Jeff
Dragonfly N41GK

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On
Behalf Of
Doug Humble
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 11:25 AM
To: Q-List
Subject: [Q-LIST] Update on Phil Lankford

I called the Kern Medical Center in Bakersfield CA and I'm happy to
report
that both Phil and his wife are doing well and are staying in the
hospital
for observation but may get to go home tomorrow. I spoke to the
nurse in
the ER who gave me this info. I told her to give our best wishes to
both of
them.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974



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Re: Propellor pains

Robert Bounds
 

4. For the price I would rather consider a Warp Drive. Any opinions? The
manufacturer of my prop is obviously a wooden prop enthusiast, and
guarantees me that the Warp wouldn't perform even nearly as well a my wooden
prop. Any comments?

Regards,

Dawie.

I had a Q-1 with a Rotax and had a Warp Drive prop and a Prince wooden prop for it. The Prince far outperformed the Warp.
Just one data point.

Bounds
Former Q-driver.