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Re: LVK panorama shot

GeneKnapp2@...
 

Hey Geoff!!!

you take a great Pano of the LVK Boys

Thanks

If ya got any more, I will be glad to look at any details fm 2005 you
may have taken.

Gene



I put up on my website my first effort at making a panorama shot of
the planes at the LVK flyin:


Re: Wrapped Exhaust

Jim Patillo
 

Gene,

I got mine done in San Mateo CA. The process they applied is a "Jet
Hot" ceramic coating but there are many places around the country that
can do the same. You just have to explore a little.

--- In Q-LIST@..., Vickyk2@a... wrote:
So Jim
My steel pipes were ceramic coated inside and out several years ago.
I see no sign of failure after several years and 600 hours use.
What type of shop (and maybe where) did the ceramic coating for you?
I know its not the same thing, but I have heard that pouter(SP?)
coating are
thinner than they were when first introduced. What about ceramics?

Gene



thanks for the LVK roundup

Mike Perry <dmperry1012@...>
 

This is late to go out:

I want to say a sincere thanks to the LVK crowd for the great fly-in on Friday. I had a blast.

Special thanks to "Glassair Bob" and the cute chic in lavender who let us use their hanger as well as Bob Farnum's.

For me, the best part of the day was the "cowls off" session.

Once again, THANKS!

Mike Perry


Re: Wrapped Exhaust

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

I got 20 years out of my old steel pipes. I've heard that the wraps kill mild steel pipes in short order. Try the ceramic coating stuff. I got it on my new steel pipes but not sure of performance yet. Mike Q200

flywarrior wrote:

How much dose wrapping the exhaust reduce the service life of the exhaust pipe?



Re: Wrapped Exhaust

Jim Patillo
 

Should have read your post a little closer. Wrapping probably cuts the
life by 1/3, been there done that.

My steel pipes were ceramic coated inside and out several years ago.
I see no sign of failure after several years and 600 hours use.

Jim Patillo

--- In Q-LIST@..., "flywarrior" <flywarrior@n...> wrote:
How much dose wrapping the exhaust reduce the service life of the
exhaust pipe?


Re: Wrapped Exhaust

Jim Patillo
 

Its bad for steel pipes. A wrap allows moisture to collect between
pipe and wrap and rust will occur.

Jim Patillo N46JP Q200 LVK-More flying Q200's than any place on earth"


--- In Q-LIST@..., "flywarrior" <flywarrior@n...> wrote:
How much dose wrapping the exhaust reduce the service life of the
exhaust pipe?


Wrapped Exhaust

Robert Justin
 

How much dose wrapping the exhaust reduce the service life of the exhaust pipe?


Re: Spark plugs?

Larry Severson
 

At 02:38 PM 8/23/2005 -0400, you wrote:
Hi Tim,

This came up a couple of years ago and Alan Thayer had this information
to share with the group. Let us know if those are still available.
You'll pay
upwards of $28 each for the REL 37B's.



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Re: Wrapped Exhaust

GeneKnapp2@...
 

Thanks Jim

See you in "Kansas" (bad habit) err Sullivan, MO I hope.

Gene

In a message dated 8/23/2005 9:12:31 PM Central Daylight Time,
logistics_engineering@... writes:
I got mine done in San Mateo CA. The process they applied is a "Jet
Hot" ceramic coating but there are many places around the country that
can do the same. You just have to explore a little.


Re: Wrapped Exhaust

Vickyk2@...
 

So Jim
My steel pipes were ceramic coated inside and out several years ago.
I see no sign of failure after several years and 600 hours use.
What type of shop (and maybe where) did the ceramic coating for you?
I know its not the same thing, but I have heard that pouter(SP?) coating are
thinner than they were when first introduced. What about ceramics?

Gene


Re: Spark plugs?

rondefly@...
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On Behalf Of
Dave
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 11:39 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Spark plugs?

Hi Tim,

This came up a couple of years ago and Alan Thayer had this information
to share with the group. Let us know if those are still available.
You'll pay
upwards of $28 each for the REL 37B's.

Dave Richardson
Tri-Q2 N825DR 17.8 hrs



Hey Revmaster Guys!

Thought i'd pass on this interesting tid-bit to the
List, that's what the List is for, right? Sparkplugs
for the Revmaster.... Dave R. and others had
recommended the Champion REL 37B as a replacement for
the older Autolite A4S plugs originally recommmended by
Revmaster. The plugs that came out of my engine, after
getting cleaned up, would probably have worked ok, but
i really had my heart set on a new set of plugs. I
took an extra-large dose of my anti-fainting medication
as i wrote a check to Aircraft Spruce for the
outrageous price they were charging for the Champion
plugs, and ordered 8 of them. They did indeed show up,
but they turned out to be way longer than i could use,
so i had to return them and got an additional
slap-in-the-face in getting charged a 15% restocking
fee! And not having opened even one of the plastic
bags they came in... Sheesh!

Here's where it gets interesting: i called Autolite and
talked with Larry Herbert, their top plug guy, and he
told me that Autolite has a direct replacement for the
A4S, called the 2242. It is supposedly identical
except that it is now a resistor plug, but according to
him that shouldn't make any difference in any
application. Turns out that these are military plugs -
i sure didn't tell him that they are going in an
airplane!

The next dilemma was finding one that i could use for a
trial fit.... two weeks of calling around revealed that
NObody had any of these plugs in practically all of
Northern California. Another long look on the internet
(ya gotta love that internet!) revealed that a retail
company by the name of Monarch in Southern California
(909-672-8501, talk to Todd, he's a very helpful guy)
not only had them in stock, but were charging only
$7.30 per plug, as opposed to the $26 that Spruce so
smugly wanted for the Champion plugs. I QUICKLY
ordered 8! Larry also e-mailed me a drawing with all
the dimensions, and it does indeed look identical to
what i had.

I am appending here parts of the note that Larry just
sent me today. Moral of the story, never say "uncle!"
I told Larry at Autolite today that i would speak in
glowing terms of the customer service that Autolite
provides its customers.

By the way, thank you to all who were of great help
with the elevator bushings i needed ... i'll write you
all individually off-list.

Alan Thayer Q-2, getting close!
-----Original Message-----
From: q2fun [mailto:q2fun@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 1:24 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Spark plugs?

Hello All,
I am looking for spark plugs for my Revmaster engine. Where is the
best place to get them? What are they selling for $$ ?
Thanks for your help,
Tim Bryant
Q-2
State College PA






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Re: Spark plugs?

Dave <dave@...>
 

Hi Tim,

This came up a couple of years ago and Alan Thayer had this information
to share with the group. Let us know if those are still available.
You'll pay
upwards of $28 each for the REL 37B's.

Dave Richardson
Tri-Q2 N825DR 17.8 hrs



Hey Revmaster Guys!

Thought i'd pass on this interesting tid-bit to the
List, that's what the List is for, right? Sparkplugs
for the Revmaster.... Dave R. and others had
recommended the Champion REL 37B as a replacement for
the older Autolite A4S plugs originally recommmended by
Revmaster. The plugs that came out of my engine, after
getting cleaned up, would probably have worked ok, but
i really had my heart set on a new set of plugs. I
took an extra-large dose of my anti-fainting medication
as i wrote a check to Aircraft Spruce for the
outrageous price they were charging for the Champion
plugs, and ordered 8 of them. They did indeed show up,
but they turned out to be way longer than i could use,
so i had to return them and got an additional
slap-in-the-face in getting charged a 15% restocking
fee! And not having opened even one of the plastic
bags they came in... Sheesh!

Here's where it gets interesting: i called Autolite and
talked with Larry Herbert, their top plug guy, and he
told me that Autolite has a direct replacement for the
A4S, called the 2242. It is supposedly identical
except that it is now a resistor plug, but according to
him that shouldn't make any difference in any
application. Turns out that these are military plugs -
i sure didn't tell him that they are going in an
airplane!

The next dilemma was finding one that i could use for a
trial fit.... two weeks of calling around revealed that
NObody had any of these plugs in practically all of
Northern California. Another long look on the internet
(ya gotta love that internet!) revealed that a retail
company by the name of Monarch in Southern California
(909-672-8501, talk to Todd, he's a very helpful guy)
not only had them in stock, but were charging only
$7.30 per plug, as opposed to the $26 that Spruce so
smugly wanted for the Champion plugs. I QUICKLY
ordered 8! Larry also e-mailed me a drawing with all
the dimensions, and it does indeed look identical to
what i had.

I am appending here parts of the note that Larry just
sent me today. Moral of the story, never say "uncle!"
I told Larry at Autolite today that i would speak in
glowing terms of the customer service that Autolite
provides its customers.

By the way, thank you to all who were of great help
with the elevator bushings i needed ... i'll write you
all individually off-list.

Alan Thayer Q-2, getting close!
-----Original Message-----
From: q2fun [mailto:q2fun@...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 1:24 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Spark plugs?

Hello All,
I am looking for spark plugs for my Revmaster engine. Where is the
best place to get them? What are they selling for $$ ?
Thanks for your help,
Tim Bryant
Q-2
State College PA






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Spark plugs?

q2fun
 

Hello All,
I am looking for spark plugs for my Revmaster engine. Where is the
best place to get them? What are they selling for $$ ?
Thanks for your help,
Tim Bryant
Q-2
State College PA


Re: Trust, but verify

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

I think there is more of a risk for an explosion caused when fuel vapour from a leak is warmed in the engine compartment , mixed with air and ignited by a noisy HT lead. It does not take much fuel to cause a bomb. When it happened to me I had ignored a slight smell of fuel during takeoff as I had corrected a loose fitting and wiped the cowl clean (I thought). The fireball was about the size of a football and melted coils and ignition wiring and burned through a radiator hose before it self extinguished. I managed a safe landing as it happened during climb out at about 2500ft.I learned Never trust a smell of fuel.
Peter
My HT leads are not shielded

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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Trust, but verify



In a message dated 8/15/2005 7:04:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
larry2@... writes:

Luckily the fire wall buckled so that while there was a dollar
(paper) sized hole resulted in the stainless steel, the wood backing was
not singed


Larry

I doubt that a fire was hot enough to burn through stainless since
exhaust pipes are made of stainless. The plans call for aluminum over fiberfrax. I
don't doubt that aluminum burned through.
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Re: Trust, but verify

Larry Severson
 

I doubt that a fire was hot enough to burn through stainless since
exhaust pipes are made of stainless. The plans call for aluminum over
fiberfrax. I
don't doubt that aluminum burned through.
Earnest
Makes sense. But, the builder did not put fiberfax or the recommended 2
part fire preventer under the aluminum (except in the accessory box).
The good news(?) is that I am learning a whole lot about Q2 construction -
unfortunately, I had hoped to avoid a lot of that.


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Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
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Re: fire

Larry Severson
 

How do you plan on using it, Larry?
The whole firewall (stainless) on my KR is painted with it. I pulled off
the stainless from the accessory box on the Q2 and found that the 2 part
stuff sold by QAC had mostly flaked off, so I painted the box before
reinstalling the stainless. I am thinking of a thorough cleaning of the
firewall and painting it. I WILL be saturating my braided steel covered
fuel lines in the stuff.


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Re: Trust, but verify

MartinErni@...
 

In a message dated 8/15/2005 7:04:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
larry2@... writes:

Luckily the fire wall buckled so that while there was a dollar
(paper) sized hole resulted in the stainless steel, the wood backing was
not singed


Larry

I doubt that a fire was hot enough to burn through stainless since
exhaust pipes are made of stainless. The plans call for aluminum over fiberfrax. I
don't doubt that aluminum burned through.
Earnest


Re: fire

Steve <sham@...>
 

This material has been around for years. I put it on my firewall about 6 years ago. I think there are several others using it.

Steve Ham

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Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 4:39 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] fire


Anyone who has a remote interest in fire prevention needs to visit
http://www.contegointernational.com/

I have used it on bare wood - result, no fire!


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Re: fire

Marinus B. &#92;(Ben&#92;) Bosma <ben@...>
 

We used a similar material to coat the ammo doors of the M1A1 Abrams main
battle tank. These are the doors that separate the crew compartment from
the ammo storage in the bustle of the turret. When the ammo caught fire
this material goes from .030 thick to about .300 thick forming a
carbonaceous char which is hard, black and keeps the heat from penetrating
the crew compartment. During desert storm I three tanks got hit in the
bustle and all three crews survived inside the turret.

No doubt this stuff works but it's mechanism (foaming up) might make it
tricky in certain installations.

How do you plan on using it, Larry?

-Ben
N124BB, Q1 under construction
Tipp City, OH

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Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 8:04 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] fire


Is it applicable for firewalls?

larry severson wrote:

Anyone who has a remote interest in fire prevention needs to visit
http://www.contegointernational.com/

I have used it on bare wood - result, no fire!


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Livermore Fly in

Ron <rondefly@...>
 

Hi All, I sure am glad I attended the fly-in yesterday, it was good to see
you all again. Good to see Phil up and around after his mishap. Sorry I did
not get to stay and enjoy the great food fest but needed to get to Tahoe so
I could at least get Sunday to work on mine.

As usual, I did learn plenty and everyone was so kind to open their cowl's
for us all to see. I took in excess of 50 picts. It was a real treat for me
to get to look under Paul Lipp's cowl and he was so kind as to explain
everything he has done. It was good to see someone depart from the norm for
something that works better. So many of us just use the same old parts and
systems; I really enjoy experimenting with all the new ideas and products.
Since I am in the middle of building the plenum on my 0200 it was just
perfect timing to see how Paul did his.

I already had the foam and dry wall mud in place on the cylinder area only,
I learned Paul had done the same, I just have to add the inserts to direct
the air where necessary on the top.

On top of the crankcase is the place for my Megalight coil so will direct
air to the coil in a similar fashion as Paul has.

The bottom plenums were the best part. I have been racking my pea brain on
how to do it.

I will proceed with the bottom plenum very similar to what Paul has. Just
think, I won't need all that exhaust pipe. And I just had it ceramic coated
for 100.00. I slightly changed the shape of my upper parts of the plenums
today to direct the air as Paul has done. I especially liked the way he has
done away with the scat tubing. Will do something similar even though I
bought my tubing and rubber baffles only about a month ago.

I red the article several months ago about the Fellow that did the
mustang 2 and how he directed his plenum air I have wanted to do a bottom
plenum and Paul is the first one I saw that has already done it. I never did
think it was good enough to just dump the air in the bottom of the cowl and
hope it exits through the bottom.

During the week I will have more time and will upload some of the pictures
from the flyin. I will be putting them on my web and the Q-list. I did get
the 4130 tube for the engine mount on the Q1 this week. Maybe I will cut it
to size and send it out to get welded which I can do during the week, I'm
not going to let the Q1 take up any weekend time, that is for the Q200 only
with momma first.



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