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Bruce Crain
 

Sammy,
I've been having thoughts of maybe slicing the middle out of a Q200 fuselage and slimming it down to a 1 seater. Didn't Lancair do that with their Lancair IV and add a jet engine?

With the Continental 0200 engine pumped up front the aircraft would surely be faster. Much less front plate drag. The hard part would be incorporating the tail section and fairing the top and bottom smoothly.

Should be easy to find a kit with a fuselage. Might have to pick up a couple of carbon fiber spares from "Down Under". But then again when it is finished the rest may have moved on already.

Just thinking out loud. Maybe in a few years when I retire!

Bruce
N96BJ


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Re: Prop selection / Sterba props

French <LJFrench@...>
 

My 60X70 is a Sterba. They are hand carved and he only does a static balance on them. Probably not a bad buy for the money though. If money was no issue I would probably go for a CNC cut prop.

L. French

After surfing the props and drooling over the ones I cannot afford , how about the Ed sterba wood prop for $500 ? Is there any feedback favourable or otherwise?
Thanks , Peter
Re: Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

French <LJFrench@...>
 

Jeff,
I have been there several times. Brand new terminal building, two nice runways (slight hump in the one - kind of like Ottawa), staffed on weekends (a big plus when coming home from Sullivan on Sunday's), T hangers usually available, hotels close. I don't know about a big hanger that could house several aircraft. I suppose the town is around 13,000 population and about 45 miles from Lincoln, NE. Commercial flights to Lincoln are sometimes a little pricy, but Omaha has better fares and only 60 more miles away or so.
It just so happens that BIE is direct in line between my hometown airport and Sullivan.

Oh........... and if you show up to the fly-in after everyone else has left for supper and there is no ride (not that it ever happens to me), you can just walk up the street a ways to the Super 8. However, I think they have 2 courtesy cars.

LF

If

things do not work out with that, I am looking at an airport in SE Nebraska.
On paper the airport looks good, but I have never been there to take a look.
It is not far from Doug or Lynn...either of you guys been to Beatrice, NE
(KBIE)?



Suggestions are greatly appreciated!!!

Jeff
Re: Engine mount question

Leon - C <leon@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Harris" <peterjfharris@...>
: Re: [Q-LIST] Engine mount question


After sifting through all the responses I suppose the best fix is also the
easiest. Torque and the P factor are turning the aircraft away from prop
rotation. By trimming the elevator or the ailerons we can offset this and
the elevator requires only a very small adjustment. By trimming the correct
side up we should get a small reduction in drag as well.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I ran across an interesting thing that may be related to this while reverse
engineering the Quickie for my CAD drawings. CSA-6 and CSA-7 (the elevator
control arms on the Quickie) do not have the same ratio. I checked 2 sets
of parts and they were both identical, and since the parts were all punched
out by Ken Brock, I'm assuming that all the Quickie kits had the same
different ratio (1/16" or about 5%) elevator links. I don't have any idea
if this was
intended but the result would be that one elevator would deflect just a bit
more than the other - tending to off set "P" factor.

One might be able to do the same thing with the Q-2/200...... but IIRC they
have identical parts right and left due to the center stick.
======================
Leon McAtee
Re: S**t Eating Grin

Patrick Panzera <panzera@...>
 

What in the world are you guys trying to tell me?
That you have the best poop-eating grin in existence, Q induced no doubt.

Pat
Re: Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

I have been tossing the idea of hosting the fly-in around and will do so again. I'll do my home work and get back to you.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: "Letempt, Jeffrey MR" <jeffrey.letempt@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In


Thought that was the purpose of the Mountain States and Livermore Fly-In?
The Field of Dreams Fly-In will remain in the middle of the US, maybe MO,
OK, NE, IA, or OK. There truly is a lot of thought that goes into selecting
a location for a fly-in like this.

For the last 3 years (the years I coordinated the fly-in at Sullivan) the
majority of the people have driven to the event. Next are the guys who fly
their TW planes in and there area few guys who will fly-in commercially to a
major airport.

Of course most of us have very busy schedules and it can be hard to get away
for 4-5 days to fully take advantage of our fly-in. For this reason I think
it is worthwhile to move the event around once in a while. Someone could
not justify driving 700 miles to a fly-in, but maybe 400 is doable.

I understand that it is difficult and costly to fly a TW plane from CA to MO
for a weekend fly-in. Typically the overwhelming majority of TW airplanes
come from an adjoining state. Of course there are exceptions, Charlie
Johnson, Jim Patillo, and Dave Dugas come to mind. It would probably make
little or no difference for me or Sam, or Lynn, or Bruce, or Paul if the
fly-in was moved a few hundred miles in any direction. If it moved west a
little I do not think it would seriously impact the guys from flying their
plane to the event. A few hundred miles east would make it further from the
west coast guys, and I do not think that would help increase participation.

Close proximity to a large commercial airport is important for the guys who
will fly in commercially. It is also important to have lodging and things
like that close by the event airport. It should not be inside Class B
airspace and it should have a large enough ramp area and hangar space for
all the airplanes. Sullivan pretty much fits the bill for everything. A
fantastic rural airport that does not charge us anything with 5 hotels
within about 1 mile and maybe a little over a one hour drive from St Louis
Lambert International Airport.

Spud has volunteered to organize the event at Ottawa, KS next year. If
things do not work out with that, I am looking at an airport in SE Nebraska.
On paper the airport looks good, but I have never been there to take a look.
It is not far from Doug or Lynn...either of you guys been to Beatrice, NE
(KBIE)?

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
rondefly@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:09 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

Try about 1500 miles for the west coast guys.

Ron T

Ron & Carolyn Triano Q-200 N4710P
My Web
http://bld01.ipowerweb.com/contentmanagement/websites/rtrianoc/page8.html
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http://bld01.ipowerweb.com/contentmanagement/websites/rtrianoc/page9.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On Behalf Of
Letempt, Jeffrey MR
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 6:48 AM
To: 'Q-LIST@...'
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

Paul,

I understand.....I just had someone contact me from the east coast saying
the event needs to be pushed back a couple weeks due to weather. No firm
plans yet, but the fly-in will likely move west a couple hundred miles next
year.

Suggestions are greatly appreciated!!!

Jeff



Quickie Builders Association WEB site
http://www.quickiebuilders.org


Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

Letempt, Jeffrey MR <jeffrey.letempt@...>
 

Thought that was the purpose of the Mountain States and Livermore Fly-In?
The Field of Dreams Fly-In will remain in the middle of the US, maybe MO,
OK, NE, IA, or OK. There truly is a lot of thought that goes into selecting
a location for a fly-in like this.

For the last 3 years (the years I coordinated the fly-in at Sullivan) the
majority of the people have driven to the event. Next are the guys who fly
their TW planes in and there area few guys who will fly-in commercially to a
major airport.

Of course most of us have very busy schedules and it can be hard to get away
for 4-5 days to fully take advantage of our fly-in. For this reason I think
it is worthwhile to move the event around once in a while. Someone could
not justify driving 700 miles to a fly-in, but maybe 400 is doable.

I understand that it is difficult and costly to fly a TW plane from CA to MO
for a weekend fly-in. Typically the overwhelming majority of TW airplanes
come from an adjoining state. Of course there are exceptions, Charlie
Johnson, Jim Patillo, and Dave Dugas come to mind. It would probably make
little or no difference for me or Sam, or Lynn, or Bruce, or Paul if the
fly-in was moved a few hundred miles in any direction. If it moved west a
little I do not think it would seriously impact the guys from flying their
plane to the event. A few hundred miles east would make it further from the
west coast guys, and I do not think that would help increase participation.

Close proximity to a large commercial airport is important for the guys who
will fly in commercially. It is also important to have lodging and things
like that close by the event airport. It should not be inside Class B
airspace and it should have a large enough ramp area and hangar space for
all the airplanes. Sullivan pretty much fits the bill for everything. A
fantastic rural airport that does not charge us anything with 5 hotels
within about 1 mile and maybe a little over a one hour drive from St Louis
Lambert International Airport.

Spud has volunteered to organize the event at Ottawa, KS next year. If
things do not work out with that, I am looking at an airport in SE Nebraska.
On paper the airport looks good, but I have never been there to take a look.
It is not far from Doug or Lynn...either of you guys been to Beatrice, NE
(KBIE)?

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
rondefly@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:09 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

Try about 1500 miles for the west coast guys.

Ron T

Ron & Carolyn Triano Q-200 N4710P
My Web
http://bld01.ipowerweb.com/contentmanagement/websites/rtrianoc/page8.html
Quickie 1:
http://bld01.ipowerweb.com/contentmanagement/websites/rtrianoc/page9.html


-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On Behalf Of
Letempt, Jeffrey MR
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 6:48 AM
To: 'Q-LIST@...'
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

Paul,

I understand.....I just had someone contact me from the east coast saying
the event needs to be pushed back a couple weeks due to weather. No firm
plans yet, but the fly-in will likely move west a couple hundred miles next
year.

Suggestions are greatly appreciated!!!

Jeff
Re: S**t Eating Grin

Jim Patillo
 

What in the world are you guys trying to tell me?

Jim P. N46JP Q200 LVK-More flying Q200's than any place on earth!

--- In Q-LIST@..., "Doug Humble" <hawkidoug@c...> wrote:
Exactly!!!

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Panzera" <panzera@e...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: Wheel cam guys.


Jim, All I could picture in my mind when I read your 1st post
was this
mini
cam pointed, not out the canopy like most of us would do, but
back at the
pilot, who has this sh*t eaten grin on is face. The Pilot goes
home and
plays it back and doesn't think he looks so good, so he blames
it on the
resolution of the mini camera. But I thought you might get
offended by
that,
so I wrote you about the pilot skill thing.

For some reason, I'm still picturing that damn grin. :)
Would this happen to be the one???

http://www.experimental-
aviation.com/FlyIns/Laughlin2003/JimPandPatP.JPG

Pat




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S**t Eating Grin

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Exactly!!!

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Panzera" <panzera@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: Wheel cam guys.


Jim, All I could picture in my mind when I read your 1st post was this mini
cam pointed, not out the canopy like most of us would do, but back at the
pilot, who has this sh*t eaten grin on is face. The Pilot goes home and
plays it back and doesn't think he looks so good, so he blames it on the
resolution of the mini camera. But I thought you might get offended by that,
so I wrote you about the pilot skill thing.

For some reason, I'm still picturing that damn grin. :)
Would this happen to be the one???

http://www.experimental-aviation.com/FlyIns/Laughlin2003/JimPandPatP.JPG

Pat




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fly cams - was re:Wheel cam guys.

wesisberg <wes@...>
 

I'm also interested in developing fly-cam's for fun and performance
evaluation, but I won't have time soon. Here's some quick links in
case someone else wants them:

-- Marshall, Toshiba cameras; index of other vendors
http://www.mars-cam.com/optical.html
http://www.toshiba.com/taisisd/indmed/products.htm#2
http://www.toshiba.com/taisisd/indmed/ikum44a.htm
http://www.acecam.com/crindex.html

-- repurpose/build from CCTV/spy
repurpose higher-end CCTV/Security cameras/components:
http://www.spycameras.com/bullet_camera.htm
http://www.spycameras.com/board_camera.htm
http://www.bhphotovideo.com
Professional Video/Industrial Video/CCTV & Security Cameras

-- article on lipstick cameras for extreme sports, listing integrators
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0HFE/is_1999_Jan/ai_54306980#continue

-- for building a video boroscope?
-> B&H: Panasonic GP-CX261V Color Board Camera Module
Re: Wheel cam guys.

REBECCA SIMPSON
 

Watch for a similar camera Panasonic SV-AV30 Camera Video MP3. Put a
1 gig card in it ($78 at qally world) and put on high resolution. You
get a camera off ebay with accessories for about $150 and can get
some good quality pics and movies.... also plays MP3.



--- In Q-LIST@..., "Doug Humble" <hawkidoug@c...> wrote:
Jim, All I could picture in my mind when I read your 1st post was
this mini
cam pointed, not out the canopy like most of us would do, but back
at the
pilot, who has this sh*t eaten grin on is face. The Pilot goes home
and
plays it back and doesn't think he looks so good, so he blames it
on the
resolution of the mini camera. But I thought you might get offended
by that,
so I wrote you about the pilot skill thing.

For some reason, I'm still picturing that damn grin. :)

Somewhere in the bowels of the US...

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@m...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 5:57 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Wheel cam guys.


You bee funnie, HawkI. Things a little slow in the bowels of the
US
today?

JP

P.S. It is the resolution! Bro

--- In Q-LIST@..., "Doug Humble" <hawkidoug@c...>
wrote:
Jim, it might not be a camera resolution problem. It takes a
steady hand
from a good pilot... like Paul Fisher. Maybe Paul could fly your
plane with
the mini cam attached to your bird sometime.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@m...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 4:30 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Wheel cam guys.


David,

The small cameras we bought (Like Jon Finnley's) on ebay
earlier
this
year had pretty lousy resolution. I tried one but shitcanned
the
idea
until something better appears. Thats probably why you haven't
seen or
heard more about it. I've got one do you want it?

Regards,
Jim Patillo

"David J. Gall" <David@G...> wrote:
Anyone have an eBay link to the "original" wireless wheelcam
that
Jon Finley
found and that was talked about on this list last year?

Thanks,


David J. Gall




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Re: Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

Sam Kittle
 

Jeff,

Weather is always hard to predict one year ahead of time. The reason this fly-in was moved to the end of September was due to the extreme hot weather in Kansas during the labor day weekend. In the early to mid part of September, Kansas & Missouri are usually affected by the end of the monsoon season coming out of Arizona. Maybe, we could ask Charlie Johnson (One Sky Dog), how to deal with the weather in the Rockies. Charlie usually makes the fly-in from Ogden, UT.

Regards,
Sam

Letempt, Jeffrey MR wrote:

Paul,

I understand.....I just had someone contact me from the east coast saying
the event needs to be pushed back a couple weeks due to weather. No firm
plans yet, but the fly-in will likely move west a couple hundred miles next
year.
Suggestions are greatly appreciated!!!

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Paul Spackman
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:12 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

Jeff,

I have been trying to get back to the fly-in for years but the weather is late September and early October is a factor. I for one would like to see a return to the Labor Day weekend. There are others is the same boat I am sure. Here in the Rockies the weather sets in early. Just a thought.

Paul Spackman





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Re: Prop selection / Sterba props

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Thanks Lyn I guess the CNC props are better balanced but just about double the price.
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: French
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Prop selection / Sterba props


My 60X70 is a Sterba. They are hand carved and he only does a static balance
on them. Probably not a bad buy for the money though. If money was no issue
I would probably go for a CNC cut prop.

L. French



> After surfing the props and drooling over the ones I cannot afford , how
> about the Ed sterba wood prop for $500 ? Is there any feedback favourable
> or otherwise?
> Thanks , Peter
>


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Re: Wheel cam guys.

Patrick Panzera <panzera@...>
 

Jim, All I could picture in my mind when I read your 1st post was this mini
cam pointed, not out the canopy like most of us would do, but back at the
pilot, who has this sh*t eaten grin on is face. The Pilot goes home and
plays it back and doesn't think he looks so good, so he blames it on the
resolution of the mini camera. But I thought you might get offended by that,
so I wrote you about the pilot skill thing.

For some reason, I'm still picturing that damn grin. :)
Would this happen to be the one???

http://www.experimental-aviation.com/FlyIns/Laughlin2003/JimPandPatP.JPG

Pat
Re: Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

Patrick Panzera <panzera@...>
 

For all the flying OSD has done to attend just about every tandem wing fly-in
since he got his plane, I think that we should have an event at HIS airport so
he can sit one out and not miss anyhting.

...and MAYBE we could actually get to see Bob's project!

Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
rondefly@...
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:09 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

Try about 1500 miles for the west coast guys.

Ron T
Re: Engine mount question

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Thanks Leon. I notice something else about the elevator pushrod geometry, although unrelated. The elevators move about 1/8 to1/4" like aelerons and in the same direction. Maybe this adds to the "aeleron steering" effect.
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: Leon - C
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Engine mount question


----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Harris" <peterjfharris@...>
: Re: [Q-LIST] Engine mount question


> After sifting through all the responses I suppose the best fix is also the
easiest. Torque and the P factor are turning the aircraft away from prop
rotation. By trimming the elevator or the ailerons we can offset this and
the elevator requires only a very small adjustment. By trimming the correct
side up we should get a small reduction in drag as well.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I ran across an interesting thing that may be related to this while reverse
engineering the Quickie for my CAD drawings. CSA-6 and CSA-7 (the elevator
control arms on the Quickie) do not have the same ratio. I checked 2 sets
of parts and they were both identical, and since the parts were all punched
out by Ken Brock, I'm assuming that all the Quickie kits had the same
different ratio (1/16" or about 5%) elevator links. I don't have any idea
if this was
intended but the result would be that one elevator would deflect just a bit
more than the other - tending to off set "P" factor.

One might be able to do the same thing with the Q-2/200...... but IIRC they
have identical parts right and left due to the center stick.
======================
Leon McAtee





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Re: Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

rondefly@...
 

Try about 1500 miles for the west coast guys.

Ron T

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-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On Behalf Of
Letempt, Jeffrey MR
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 6:48 AM
To: 'Q-LIST@...'
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

Paul,

I understand.....I just had someone contact me from the east coast saying
the event needs to be pushed back a couple weeks due to weather. No firm
plans yet, but the fly-in will likely move west a couple hundred miles next
year.

Suggestions are greatly appreciated!!!

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Paul Spackman
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:12 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

Jeff,

I have been trying to get back to the fly-in for years but the weather
is late September and early October is a factor. I for one would like
to see a return to the Labor Day weekend. There are others is the same
boat I am sure. Here in the Rockies the weather sets in early. Just a
thought.

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Re: Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

Letempt, Jeffrey MR <jeffrey.letempt@...>
 

Paul,

I understand.....I just had someone contact me from the east coast saying
the event needs to be pushed back a couple weeks due to weather. No firm
plans yet, but the fly-in will likely move west a couple hundred miles next
year.

Suggestions are greatly appreciated!!!

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Paul Spackman
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:12 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Annual Field of Dreams Fly-In

Jeff,

I have been trying to get back to the fly-in for years but the weather
is late September and early October is a factor. I for one would like
to see a return to the Labor Day weekend. There are others is the same
boat I am sure. Here in the Rockies the weather sets in early. Just a
thought.

Paul Spackman





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Re: Wheel cam guys.

L Koutz <koutzl@...>
 

No But I have one I bought, $30 to anyone who wants it.

Larry

----- Original Message -----
From: "David J. Gall" <David@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Wheel cam guys.


Anyone have an eBay link to the "original" wireless wheelcam that Jon Finley
found and that was talked about on this list last year?
Thanks,
David J. Gall
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Prop selection / Sterba props

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

After surfing the props and drooling over the ones I cannot afford , how about the Ed sterba wood prop for $500 ? Is there any feedback favourable or otherwise?
Thanks , Peter
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