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Props

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

What are you guys running the high compression O-200's using as props? (dia x pitch, performance)
Jerry Marstall


Re: Goin around!

MartinErni@...
 

Rene,
I agree completely. With my old fixed pitch prop 3000 feet was needed
even with the tri gear. If I was light and had a good head wind I could get it
stopped in 2000. With the constant speed prop that goes into flat pitch I can
consistently stop in 1500 feet with a little concentration. I still like a
little margin so I stay out of anything less than 2500 feet at sea level.
Earnest


Re: Batterys

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

I use something similar to part #1176. Not sure if it is exactly the same though.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

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Subject: [Q-LIST] Batterys


Has anyone tried any of these batteries? Here is the site for some RG racing
batteries. http://s2.pegasusautoracing.com/049.pdf



Ron T



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Re: Goin around!

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

That is sure slow Jim realllllll sloowwww.
Peter

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Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Goin around!



Earnest,

My Lightspeed Dual Electronics let's the 0200 idle at 450 RPM, but I
though you had already ddone that.

Jim P.
--- In Q-LIST@..., MartinErni@a... wrote:
>
> Peter,
> 500 feet helps a lot. I think my landing distance would
improve a lot
> more if I could get my engine to idle smoothly at 500 RPM instead
of the 800 I
> now have to run to keep it smooth.
> Earnest
>
>
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Re: Epoxy resin

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Matt carbon spars are available to order. See the web page resources link.
Peter

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Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Epoxy resin


Leon,
Please send me any info on carbon spars and the ls1 canard. I cannot find templates or specs. I have seen the other q1's with vw's and i am following after them. I am far from the engine though...i currently have to deal with the canard. thnks for your info.
matt

Leon - C <leon@...> wrote:

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> i think that i am putting a 1835cc volks on.

I assume that this means that you are building the single place Quickie.
Rather than reinvent the wheel take a look at some of the other VW equipped
Quickies and follow what they have done. There was a real nice one featured
in Q-talk "recently". Also take a look at Allan Thayer's carbon rod version
of the LS-1 canard. It can be made from available Graphlite rods - and has
been load tested, but not yet flown. I can E-mail info if needed.
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Re: Props

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Thanks David. What has got me going on this is that Paul is getting 230mph TAS with the Jab 6 120HP at 3300rpm. That is 30mph better than any of the Ottawa results and AFAIK he has quietly set a new record which seems to have gone unnoticed. I think the secret is that Paul's prop is 54"dia x72 and the Jab can turn it at 3300 while the 0-200 results were taken at about the same HP turning the same pitch 72" but 60" dia at 3000 RPM max.ie down 300rpm for the same power input.It would be instructive to compare the power/torque curves for both engines, I have the J6 data . Anyone got a lead on the 0-200 torque curves?
As a matter of interest I made a number of measurements both with the Revmaster/Cowley 56X49, and the Norton 60X24deg (3blades) and was surprised to find a straight line relationship between airspeed and RPM for a given prop/pitch setting all the way from 80KTS to the max.
Yeah the tongue will be twitching as the blade goes in.
Peter
Peter

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Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Props


Peter,

Make SMALL cuts on that precious prop...! :)


David J. Gall

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Harris" <peterjfharris@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Props
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:55:37 +1000

>
> Jerry it is worth taking a look at the website link to "performance" and view
> the annual results of the Ottawa comps. Most on record use 60x72 and run close
> to 3000rpm. IMO if this prop were reduced to say 56"dia and run at 32-3300rpm
> the performance would be faster.ie increase rpm by reducing the diameter (to
> a certain limit). I don't think we have found the limit yet. I have chosen a
> 60x72 Sterba but will cut it down to achieve redline rpm at WOT level
> flight,but I suspect you could go as high as 74" pitch with a reduced
> diameter.I think there is more potential airspeed to be found.
> Peter


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Re: Props

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Dave I have no experience with the 0-200 and no advice about max rpm for that engine but I would expect that oil ejection sould be curable.
Peter

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Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Props


Hi Peter,

I recall an fall fly-in where Bruce Crain learned something about
extended higher rpms on an O200 where he got a good amount of oil
ejected from the engine that wrapped around the fuselage. Perhaps Bruce
can chime in and shed some light on what happened. My recollection may
be wrong, but I thought he attributed it to extended higher rpms.

Dave Richardson

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:56 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Props

Jerry it is worth taking a look at the website link to "performance" and
view the annual results of the Ottawa comps. Most on record use 60x72
and run close to 3000rpm. IMO if this prop were reduced to say 56"dia
and run at 32-3300rpm the performance would be faster.ie increase rpm
by reducing the diameter (to a certain limit). I don't think we have
found the limit yet. I have chosen a 60x72 Sterba but will cut it down
to achieve redline rpm at WOT level flight,but I suspect you could go
as high as 74" pitch with a reduced diameter.I think there is more
potential airspeed to be found.
Peter
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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:00 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Props


What are you guys running the high compression O-200's using as props?

(dia x pitch, performance)
Jerry Marstall


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Re: Props

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Doug for max speed the idea is to choose pitch and diam for WOT redline rpm . More pitch with smaller dia will go faster at the same redline rpm. It is just a matter if finding out how far we can go with this airframe before the prop is too small. There has been a tendency for everyone to follow others and choose 60x72 but nothing new is discovered without breaking this trend.
I have a hunch that we could use 74"pitch and cut the diam to achieve redline rpm. The 0-200 comp planes are not going much past 3000rpm.
Think about 3500rpm.
Peter

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Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 7:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Props


Peter - If you give up the Dia. for more pitch and keep the rpm the same,
don't you loose climb? I have been wrestling with this and would like
comments.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Props


> Jerry it is worth taking a look at the website link to "performance" and
> view the annual results of the Ottawa comps. Most on record use 60x72 and
> run close to 3000rpm. IMO if this prop were reduced to say 56"dia and run
> at 32-3300rpm the performance would be faster.ie increase rpm by reducing
> the diameter (to a certain limit). I don't think we have found the limit
> yet. I have chosen a 60x72 Sterba but will cut it down to achieve redline
> rpm at WOT level flight,but I suspect you could go as high as 74" pitch
> with a reduced diameter.I think there is more potential airspeed to be
> found.
> Peter
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> Jerry Marstall
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Re: Batterys

One Sky Dog
 

In a message dated 11/18/2005 1:59:03 AM Mountain Standard Time,
rondefly@... writes:

Has anyone tried any of these batteries? Here is the site for some RG racing
batteries. http://s2.pegasusautoracing.com/049.pdf



Ron T




Ron,

I use a RG battery that I bought at the local race orientated motorcycle
shop.

It seems to be able to handle the constant output of the PM alternator. Plus
no vent spewing acid all over in turbulence, no loss of water that kills
regular batteries. Multi year life makes up for the initial cost.

Regards,

One Sky Dog


Mags and Tachs.

chris rayner <chris-rayner@...>
 

A question for the techies please. I am doing the wiring for my O-200 and have a Westach Tachometer which connects a lead to each mag, but the instructions don't say where it attaches. A/S catalogue says the "primary lead", which still doesn't (me) help much. Looks like there's only two possibilities:- to the wire on the condenser, or to the mag earth lead. Anyone know which, or doesn't it matter?

Thanks
Chris Rayner (about to fit the motor).


Batterys

Ron <rondefly@...>
 


Re: Goin around!

James Postma <james@...>
 

Jim,

I was struggling with 3,000 feet before the VG's and with the VG's, I
routinely use less that 2,000 feet.

James Postma
The Aircraft Factory and School
Steilacoom, Washington
(253) 584-1182 9:00 to 8:00 PDT
(2530 691-2979 cell

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Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:45 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Goin around!



James,

Though you said you reduced your runway reequirement by 1,000', You
still haven't told us YOUR "runway requirement" with VG's installed?
What is it?

Jim P. N46JP Q200


--- In Q-LIST@..., "James Postma" <james@p...> wrote:

I reduced my runway requirement by 1,000 feet with my VG's.

James Postma
The Aircraft Factory and School
Steilacoom, Washington
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Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Goin around!


Jim and & heartily agree. If it ain't 100% right, go around.

Runways with a slope are especially treacherous for Q-2s & Q-
200s.
Especially
if the wind dictates a downhill landing, or an uphill takeoff.
Maybe
there's
some rule of thumb for these situations.

Since we have such long landing rolls anywhoo, the pucker factor
is
exponentially increased.

Sam Hoskins
Murphysboro, IL
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Re: Goin around!

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Earnest that is a big benefit from the CS prop .
Peter

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Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 2:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Goin around!


Rene,
I agree completely. With my old fixed pitch prop 3000 feet was needed
even with the tri gear. If I was light and had a good head wind I could get it
stopped in 2000. With the constant speed prop that goes into flat pitch I can
consistently stop in 1500 feet with a little concentration. I still like a
little margin so I stay out of anything less than 2500 feet at sea level.
Earnest






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Re: Goin around!

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

James I have landed several times at Maroochy on the cross strip which is 650M but it is very tight and usually takes 1 or 2 Go rounds and brakes and a head wind of at least 10Kts. I was based at Noosa 900M over trees and that was fine. My Q2 would be lighter than the Q-200's had a LS1 canard and 3/8" fixed aeleron reflex. Without aeleron reflex it does not want to land at all. I have no VG devices .
Peter

----- Original Message -----
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To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Goin around!


Jim,

I was struggling with 3,000 feet before the VG's and with the VG's, I
routinely use less that 2,000 feet.

James Postma
The Aircraft Factory and School
Steilacoom, Washington
(253) 584-1182 9:00 to 8:00 PDT
(2530 691-2979 cell

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Patillo" <logistics_engineering@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 2:45 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Goin around!


>
> James,
>
> Though you said you reduced your runway reequirement by 1,000', You
> still haven't told us YOUR "runway requirement" with VG's installed?
> What is it?
>
> Jim P. N46JP Q200
>
>
> --- In Q-LIST@..., "James Postma" <james@p...> wrote:
> >
> > I reduced my runway requirement by 1,000 feet with my VG's.
> >
> > James Postma
> > The Aircraft Factory and School
> > Steilacoom, Washington
> > (253) 584-1182 9:00 to 8:00 PDT
> > (2530 691-2979 cell
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <shoskins@m...>
> > To: <Q-LIST@...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:29 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Goin around!
> >
> >
> > > Jim and & heartily agree. If it ain't 100% right, go around.
> > >
> > > Runways with a slope are especially treacherous for Q-2s & Q-
> 200s.
> > Especially
> > > if the wind dictates a downhill landing, or an uphill takeoff.
> Maybe
> > there's
> > > some rule of thumb for these situations.
> > >
> > > Since we have such long landing rolls anywhoo, the pucker factor
> is
> > > exponentially increased.
> > >
> > > Sam Hoskins
> > > Murphysboro, IL
> > > Home of one flying Q-200.
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Re: Props

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Jerry it is worth taking a look at the website link to "performance" and view the annual results of the Ottawa comps. Most on record use 60x72 and run close to 3000rpm. IMO if this prop were reduced to say 56"dia and run at 32-3300rpm the performance would be faster.ie increase rpm by reducing the diameter (to a certain limit). I don't think we have found the limit yet. I have chosen a 60x72 Sterba but will cut it down to achieve redline rpm at WOT level flight,but I suspect you could go as high as 74" pitch with a reduced diameter.I think there is more potential airspeed to be found.
Peter

----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Marstall
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 10:00 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Props


What are you guys running the high compression O-200's using as props?
(dia x pitch, performance)
Jerry Marstall


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Flying model Quickies!

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Check out this site guys!! http://www.seattlemw.com/

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Re: Q2 kit for sale...?

Dave Davis <davemac@...>
 

Sorry, I sold that kit a long time ago!

Dave

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 1:19 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Q2 kit for sale...?


I'm not in the market, but I wanted to share this with the group. I don't
know how old this ad might be, but I stumbled upon it at
http://www.restore-online.com/aircraft_sale.html:

QUICKIE
Quickie Q2 kit for sale. This project has never been started and consists of
all parts necessary for construction. Also included is a Revmaster 2100 D
engine. Located northern US. Fantastic value at only $ 7,500 US.
Contact: Dave Davis Tel: (+00 1) 217 789 2902
e-mail: davmac@...

Does anyone have more info?


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Re: SuperQuickie Conversion (was "Re: Bellying up to the bar")

Leon - C <leon@...>
 

While you are at it - delete the links to my old web site. I no longer use
that domain (caspercityauto.com). I'm in the process of moving a computer
to my house so I can get some work done there while I mend and may get a
chance to repost the info at my new domain..............might even finish
the CAD for the Quickie main wing and get everything printed again :-)
==================
Leon McAtee

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Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2005 2:50 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] SuperQuickie Conversion (was "Re: Bellying up to the
bar")


It's a surprise! :)

Actually, if you choose the PayPal Buy Now button, it will list the price.

Okay, since you asked, I guess I'll get to work on updating the site a
little bit....


David J. Gall

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Re: SuperQuickie Conversion (was "Re: Bellying up to the bar")

David J. Gall
 

It's a surprise! :)

Actually, if you choose the PayPal Buy Now button, it will list the price.

Okay, since you asked, I guess I'll get to work on updating the site a
little bit....


David J. Gall

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Bellying up to the bar")

No price listed for you Q2/200 CD.


The reason there are no dogs riding in quickies...

Doug Tenney
 

http://www.cactusgrass.com/images/the_reason_their_are_no_dogs_in_quickies.JPG

This got a laugh out of Jim P. so I thought I would pass it along...

DUG