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Re: Flight Test

Bruce Crain
 

Yes but even non pilots can fly it with a nose wheel. ;o)
Bruce

-- Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...> wrote:
Then you could save some weight and get rid of the nose wheel!
Mike

Sam Hoskins wrote:
Kevin I believe there is a retrofit mod for this kind of problem. You
simply mount a little wheel on the very end of the tail. You can even make
it swivel and hook it up to the rudder pedals. Some of us are still using
it.

Sam


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Re: Your CD

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Thanks for the response!


Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
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N25974

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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:54 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] RE: Your CD


Hi Doug,

There are only QAC newsletters on my CDs.


David J. Gall




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From: Doug Humble [mailto:HawkiDoug@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:45 PM
To: david@...
Subject: Your CD


I saw your response on the Q-list and it begged the question: which
newsletters do you have on your CD? Are they just they ones QAC put out? I
know some of us editors of Q-Talk might get upset if you were including
Quick Talk or Q-Talk on the cd. If its just the QAC ones, you might want to
clarify it for the group.

Emails don't come across sometimes like we wish, so don't take this as a
flame or anything. Just curious.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
<http://www.asignabove.net> www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974



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Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Yet another new project
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Re: Flight Test

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

Then you could save some weight and get rid of the nose wheel!
Mike

Sam Hoskins wrote:

Kevin I believe there is a retrofit mod for this kind of problem. You
simply mount a little wheel on the very end of the tail. You can even make
it swivel and hook it up to the rudder pedals. Some of us are still using
it.

Sam


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Ron Weiss
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:24 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Flight Test


--funny, i just glassed a hard mount for a tail-skid on my tri q then came home and read this. simple design with 2 break-away points to absorb shocks. let me know if your interested ....Ron- In Q-
LIST@..., Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:

18 May 06
Plan for today was to fly away from the airport and pitch bucks.
TO from 35 was again normal. Climb at 110 to 115 MPH to keep the
CHTs lower.

Flew over our house and around the local area for a while. back to
the

airport for the pitch buck tests. Power on speeds were a bit
slower than

power off. No buck until about 70MPH IAS. On one recovery, the
airspeed had

increased a bit so I pulled back on the stick to loose some speed.
The plane

bucked at about 85 MPH. I could not reproduce this. Maybe an
accelerated

stall of the canard. The reflexor was set at or slightly below
1/4 TE up.

Power off tests were very much as expected. Did use about 1000 ft
of

altitude during these tests. While still at 4500, I decided to
fly to

Decorah.
The landing was bad. Everything looking great. Speed, decent,
round out,

then a gust raised the right side. The left main came down hard. I
then over

flared ( hard to change old habits) came back down on the mains
hard. Nose

down hard and sprang back into the air, but the mains were on the
ground.

Results, ground off the lower tail skin and half of the rear
clearance

light. Did no damage to the rudder or attach points. I did not
know it had

happened until my CFI, who was watching the whole thing, told me.
Of little

consolation, he did say things looked great until the gust caught
me. Put in

5 gal of fuel and flew back to the airport. Landing on 35 normal.

Kevin Boddicker
Luana, Iowa
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Re: Flight Test

Sam Hoskins <shoskins@...>
 

Kevin – I believe there is a retrofit mod for this kind of problem. You
simply mount a little wheel on the very end of the tail. You can even make
it swivel and hook it up to the rudder pedals. Some of us are still using
it.

Sam



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Ron Weiss
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:24 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Flight Test



--funny, i just glassed a hard mount for a tail-skid on my tri q
then came home and read this. simple design with 2 break-away points
to absorb shocks. let me know if your interested ....Ron- In Q-
LIST@..., Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:

18 May 06
Plan for today was to fly away from the airport and pitch bucks.
TO from 35 was again normal. Climb at 110 to 115 MPH to keep the
CHTs lower.
Flew over our house and around the local area for a while. back to
the
airport for the pitch buck tests. Power on speeds were a bit
slower than
power off. No buck until about 70MPH IAS. On one recovery, the
airspeed had
increased a bit so I pulled back on the stick to loose some speed.
The plane
bucked at about 85 MPH. I could not reproduce this. Maybe an
accelerated
stall of the canard. The reflexor was set at or slightly below
1/4² TE up.
Power off tests were very much as expected. Did use about 1000 ft
of
altitude during these tests. While still at 4500¹, I decided to
fly to
Decorah.
The landing was bad. Everything looking great. Speed, decent,
round out,
then a gust raised the right side. The left main came down hard. I
then over
flared ( hard to change old habits) came back down on the mains
hard. Nose
down hard and sprang back into the air, but the mains were on the
ground.
Results, ground off the lower tail skin and half of the rear
clearance
light. Did no damage to the rudder or attach points. I did not
know it had
happened until my CFI, who was watching the whole thing, told me.
Of little
consolation, he did say things looked great until the gust caught
me. Put in
5 gal of fuel and flew back to the airport. Landing on 35 normal.

Kevin Boddicker
Luana, Iowa
Tri Q200 N7868B 13.2 hours
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Re: Your CD

David J. Gall
 

Hi Doug,

There are only QAC newsletters on my CDs.


David J. Gall




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From: Doug Humble [mailto:HawkiDoug@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:45 PM
To: david@...
Subject: Your CD


I saw your response on the Q-list and it begged the question: which
newsletters do you have on your CD? Are they just they ones QAC put out? I
know some of us editors of Q-Talk might get upset if you were including
Quick Talk or Q-Talk on the cd. If its just the QAC ones, you might want to
clarify it for the group.

Emails don't come across sometimes like we wish, so don't take this as a
flame or anything. Just curious.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
<http://www.asignabove.net> www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974



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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 2:19 PM
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Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Yet another new project
Yes, I sell a CD with all the QAC Q2/200 plans (sans
templates), newsletters, and other info on it. You can view
my ad at <http://quickiesource.com/> http://QuickieSource.com.
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Re: Flight Test

Ron Weiss <ronweiss4@...>
 

--funny, i just glassed a hard mount for a tail-skid on my tri q
then came home and read this. simple design with 2 break-away points
to absorb shocks. let me know if your interested ....Ron- In Q-
LIST@..., Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:

18 May 06
Plan for today was to fly away from the airport and pitch bucks.
TO from 35 was again normal. Climb at 110 to 115 MPH to keep the
CHTs lower.
Flew over our house and around the local area for a while. back to
the
airport for the pitch buck tests. Power on speeds were a bit
slower than
power off. No buck until about 70MPH IAS. On one recovery, the
airspeed had
increased a bit so I pulled back on the stick to loose some speed.
The plane
bucked at about 85 MPH. I could not reproduce this. Maybe an
accelerated
stall of the canard. The reflexor was set at or slightly below
1/4² TE up.
Power off tests were very much as expected. Did use about 1000 ft
of
altitude during these tests. While still at 4500¹, I decided to
fly to
Decorah.
The landing was bad. Everything looking great. Speed, decent,
round out,
then a gust raised the right side. The left main came down hard. I
then over
flared ( hard to change old habits) came back down on the mains
hard. Nose
down hard and sprang back into the air, but the mains were on the
ground.
Results, ground off the lower tail skin and half of the rear
clearance
light. Did no damage to the rudder or attach points. I did not
know it had
happened until my CFI, who was watching the whole thing, told me.
Of little
consolation, he did say things looked great until the gust caught
me. Put in
5 gal of fuel and flew back to the airport. Landing on 35 normal.

Kevin Boddicker
Luana, Iowa
Tri Q200 N7868B 13.2 hours
Flying!!!!


Re: Annual

Sam Hoskins <shoskins@...>
 

Darrell - try this: http://home.mchsi.com/~shoskins/inspectionchecklist.htm

Sam



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Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Annual



At 11:55 AM 5/24/2006, you wrote:
At 06:36 PM 5/23/2006, you wrote:
Larry,
Is there anyway I could get a copy of the annual check list, I do
not
have one , Thanks Darrell Daniels Tri Q
Dan:
You have to contact me directly for the annual checklist. Not through
the Q-list.


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Re: Annual

Larry Severson
 

At 11:55 AM 5/24/2006, you wrote:
At 06:36 PM 5/23/2006, you wrote:
Larry,
Is there anyway I could get a copy of the annual check list, I do not
have one , Thanks Darrell Daniels Tri Q
Dan:
You have to contact me directly for the annual checklist. Not through the Q-list.


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(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Yet another new project

David J. Gall
 

Yes, I sell a CD with all the QAC Q2/200 plans (sans templates),
newsletters, and other info on it. You can view my ad at
http://QuickieSource.com.


David J. Gall
P.S. Leon, I found a copy of the ASTM standards.

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On Behalf Of Leon - C
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 1:23 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Yet another new project

---- Original Message -----
From: "datachomper" <datachomper@...>

1) The kit is missing the manual/plans. Can I order a
duplicate from
anywhere? Also where can I find all the addendums/notams
that QAC put out?
You can download a copy of the plans and addendums from Jon
Finleys site - or buy them off eBay from Quickiesource. Any
Kinko's can print the PDF files in full size, or you can
pring a "shop copy" from your PC printer.

www.finleyweb.net (wouldn't work for me just now????)

I think David Gall (also on this list) had a CD with the
Q-2/200 plans as well.

2) Since it's a Q2 it uses the GU canard which seems to have a bad
rap. Should I just build it like it is or try to convert to LS1. If
LS1 is the only way to go, where can I find the templates
and carbon
fiber spar?
Nothing wrong with the GU canard - if you don't fly in the
rain or bugs.
Vortex generators will fix that. The LS-1 will cary more
weight but the spars are hard to find for a "reasonable"
price. Peter Harris (on the list) can supply new ones. I
can supply CAD templates for the LS-1 - and they can be
downloaded in PDF as well - from the files section IIRC.
============
Leon McAtee


Re: Annual

Larry Severson
 

At 06:36 PM 5/23/2006, you wrote:
Larry,
Is there anyway I could get a copy of the annual check list, I do not
have one , Thanks Darrell Daniels Tri Q
Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Flight Test

Boddicker <trumanst@...>
 

Bruce,
Roger the nose gear!!!
Kevin

on 5/23/06 8:59 PM, jcrain2@... at jcrain2@... wrote:

Hey Kevin,
I have that same "non-tail spring" rash on the back of my TriQ! Got the nose
to high because I thought the speed was slow enough to warrant a little more
up in landing attitude.. Don't let that nose get above the horizon. I know I
am saying the obvious. My kids had that same problem with me. Power is the
key here. Aren't you glad you mounted the heavy duty nose gear!!!

Bless you Bro'
Bruce



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Vortex Generator Technicalities, By Peter Garrison

fitzair4@...
 

To the Q Group

In the June 2006 issue of Flying Magazine Page 101. Peter Garrison wrote
another good information article called "Spin Doctors"

Its good information about Vortex Generators, that every builder pilot
should
get a copy and read.

He has been a editor for Flying Magazine for a very long time.
Peter is one of the best engineering, information editors in the Flying
Magazine.
His article, is always the first one I read.



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Re: Flight Test

Bruce Crain
 

Hey Kevin,
I have that same "non-tail spring" rash on the back of my TriQ! Got the nose to high because I thought the speed was slow enough to warrant a little more up in landing attitude.. Don't let that nose get above the horizon. I know I am saying the obvious. My kids had that same problem with me. Power is the key here. Aren't you glad you mounted the heavy duty nose gear!!!

Bless you Bro'
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Propeller

Darrell Daniels <log@...>
 

Just wondering if anyone out there in Q land had any propellers to fit the Revmaster engine for sale or where a good source to purchase one is.
I typed propeller in search in the Archives and got nothing . Thanks Darrell Daniels Tri Q


Re: Annual

Darrell Daniels <log@...>
 

Larry,
Is there anyway I could get a copy of the annual check list, I do not have one , Thanks Darrell Daniels Tri Q

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To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 5:59 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Annual


I have been through the Q2 annual checklist, but I need it signed off
by an A&P since someone else built the plane. I can't seem to find
one at Chino.

Larry Severson
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FIRST FLIGHT Airport NC

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

Hey guys,
On Thursday May 25 I'm planning a flight to FFA otherwise known as Mecca for aviation! Arrival around noon with a planned buzzing of the tower to show off what a modern canard can do. Maybe I'll start a tradition of throwing pebbles at the 60-foot gray granite monument.

Anybody care to join me?

Then heading on to Dulles to visit the Air and Space museum and spend the weekend in Wash DC. Ok, I thought of flying in the ADIZ (actually isn't too bad regulations) but the cost at Dulles is way high so I'm planning Richmond VA.

Trip report to follow.

Mike Q200 N3QP Tampa Bay Florida


Re: Yet another new project

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

I think John's site is down because he was planning on moving. I also have the plans at the QBA site under Resources. A link to David Galls site is there as well and his CD is a good value.

As a newbee, check out the FAQ area as well.

QBA Web site is: http://www.quickiebuilders.org/

Oh yeah, I'm editor of the newsletter Q-Talk. You might consider subscribing and buying the back issues as well. There is info on how to subscribe at the QBA site also.

Welcome!

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

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From: "Leon - C" <leon@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Yet another new project


---- Original Message -----
From: "datachomper" <datachomper@...>

1) The kit is missing the manual/plans. Can I order a duplicate from
anywhere? Also where can I find all the addendums/notams that QAC put out?
You can download a copy of the plans and addendums from Jon Finleys site -
or buy them off eBay from Quickiesource. Any Kinko's can print the PDF
files in full size, or you can pring a "shop copy" from your PC printer.

www.finleyweb.net (wouldn't work for me just now????)

I think David Gall (also on this list) had a CD with the Q-2/200 plans as
well.

2) Since it's a Q2 it uses the GU canard which seems to have a bad
rap. Should I just build it like it is or try to convert to LS1. If
LS1 is the only way to go, where can I find the templates and carbon
fiber spar?
Nothing wrong with the GU canard - if you don't fly in the rain or bugs.
Vortex generators will fix that. The LS-1 will cary more weight but the
spars are hard to find for a "reasonable" price. Peter Harris (on the list)
can supply new ones. I can supply CAD templates for the LS-1 - and they can
be downloaded in PDF as well - from the files section IIRC.
============
Leon McAtee




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Annual

Larry Severson
 

I have been through the Q2 annual checklist, but I need it signed off by an A&P since someone else built the plane. I can't seem to find one at Chino.

Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Yet another new project

Leon - C <leon@...>
 

---- Original Message -----
From: "datachomper" <datachomper@...>

1) The kit is missing the manual/plans. Can I order a duplicate from
anywhere? Also where can I find all the addendums/notams that QAC put out?
You can download a copy of the plans and addendums from Jon Finleys site - or buy them off eBay from Quickiesource. Any Kinko's can print the PDF files in full size, or you can pring a "shop copy" from your PC printer.

www.finleyweb.net (wouldn't work for me just now????)

I think David Gall (also on this list) had a CD with the Q-2/200 plans as well.

2) Since it's a Q2 it uses the GU canard which seems to have a bad
rap. Should I just build it like it is or try to convert to LS1. If
LS1 is the only way to go, where can I find the templates and carbon
fiber spar?
Nothing wrong with the GU canard - if you don't fly in the rain or bugs. Vortex generators will fix that. The LS-1 will cary more weight but the spars are hard to find for a "reasonable" price. Peter Harris (on the list) can supply new ones. I can supply CAD templates for the LS-1 - and they can be downloaded in PDF as well - from the files section IIRC.
============
Leon McAtee


Yet another new project

datachomper <datachomper@...>
 

Hi all,
I was just recently married to a mostly-untouched Q2 kit. I'm
anxious to get building it but before I do I have a couple questions
for yall.

1) The kit is missing the manual/plans. Can I order a duplicate from
anywhere? Also where can I find all the addendums/notams that QAC put out?

2) Since it's a Q2 it uses the GU canard which seems to have a bad
rap. Should I just build it like it is or try to convert to LS1. If
LS1 is the only way to go, where can I find the templates and carbon
fiber spar?

Thank yall,
Russ Meyerriecks
Huntsville, AL