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Re: Jim Patillo

Ron Weiss <ronweiss4@...>
 

--larry, when you click on to messages, look under the word message.
there will be 2 boxes...message# box and search box. ignore the
message # box. type in any subject you wish to look up in the search
box, then press go! all of the questions and answers regarding that
topic will come up, hence, your in the archive! good luck, Ron- In Q-
LIST@..., larry severson <larry2@...> wrote:

At 07:10 PM 8/13/2006, you wrote:


Yor clueless my old pal! Its at the top of the message page just
before this one a box, in which you type your question and press
search and viola it appears! Oh by the way, its FREE. Now that's
not
difficult is it?
I am still clueless. I went to the group page, and found no way to
get to the archives. Must be simple in my old age.


Jim P.

Are you comin' up nex week?
With my wife. I need a whole lot more enlightenment, plus a bit of
fun, AND that great turkey.





Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Chat?

Larry Severson
 

Ron:
I couldn't have said it better!

Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Jim Patillo

Larry Severson
 

At 07:10 PM 8/13/2006, you wrote:


Yor clueless my old pal! Its at the top of the message page just
before this one a box, in which you type your question and press
search and viola it appears! Oh by the way, its FREE. Now that's not
difficult is it?
I am still clueless. I went to the group page, and found no way to get to the archives. Must be simple in my old age.


Jim P.

Are you comin' up nex week?
With my wife. I need a whole lot more enlightenment, plus a bit of fun, AND that great turkey.





Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Chat?

Ron Weiss <ronweiss4@...>
 

--geez, you guys are brutal! it wasn't so long ago that i was looking
for the quick answers. some of us come around sooner or later. i left
this website in disgust a few years ago. it was my strong desire a love
for this airplane that brought me back with my tail between my knees.
since then a world of knowledge has opened up to me that was there all
the time! the ultimate coolness of this plane attracts anyone who is a
fan of aviation and the cost to own and operate is also atractive. it's
my feeling that if the Q 2 didn't have any handling issues they'd be
fetching the same price as a lancair or glassair! i can understand the
frustration of you oldtimers getting sick of the same old questions,
but , as long as this website is around, new guy's will surely ask them
and they'll get angry when flamed. this little fraternity is easy to
get into, ego aside, but, we're pilots! so eating a little crow is
difficult for us. a new guy is not going to ask the right questions,
he's going to ask the same questions as all of us did when we saw this
amazing airplane for the first time. we want one and we want it now!!!!
the truth is if we want a good one we have to build it! then the right
questions come to fruition. there are some oldtimers on this site that
have been here for years and still haven't flown yet. i don't know
about you,but when i get home from work i look foward to checking out
what's been said on the site. new or old at least there's activity.
questions or comments this is a pretty cool thing for all of us! if
your new and your reading this,these guys do have your best interest at
heart. you don't neccessarily have to ask the right questions, just
hang around long enough and you'll get it! the Q is the most beautiful
and exicting airplane around. to own one is a privilidge that most will
never know. mines not flying yet ,but, it's the center of my universe.
even know, the hanger at my airport is always buzzing with guys just
wanting to be close to its construction! wherever there's a Q there
will certainly be a crowd! Q's in one form or another are still
around,but , for how long? this website is the only glue holding these
planes togrther.... patience is key, or Q depending how you look at it.
Ron - In Q-LIST@..., "Jim Patillo"
<logistics_engineering@...> wrote:



Pat,

Can we start a chat line on this site for builders in need of
immediate information? I know when I was building that would have been
a great asset.

Jim P.


Re: Chat?

Patrick Panzera <panzera@...>
 

If you old crusties wouldn't jump the newbies for asking questions
available in the archives, what you are asking for could be done right
here.

:)

Other than starting another Q list, I don't see how to do it.
Probably my shortcoming, I'm not really "in to" all the things available
from Yahoo.

Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf
Of
Jim Patillo
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 7:19 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Chat?


Pat,

Can we start a chat line on this site for builders in need of
immediate information? I know when I was building that would have been
a great asset.

Jim P.


Re: Diesel Quickie

jeffs912ex@...
 

Hi Bruce,


Hey, look what I found in my "waiting to be sent folder" better late than
never.

The fellow who did the engine installations doesn't even know all the
answers you request. Rather than give you incorrect info I'll stick with just what
I remember, I wasn't taking notes. I'll bet someone did though . The first
diesel flown on this airframe was a 4 cylinder. The fuel burn was not known by
him, but he did say it would run on just about anything including peanut
oil. A very compact six cylinder is on the firewall now and is rated well over
100 hp. Test pilot Dave M. is scheduled for the honor of test flight, soon.
I'm sure you will see and hear more about this plane, it is a beautiful
example of an experimental aircraft. I think a better test bed for this engine is
a Q 200 at least you could punch it. That reminds me, good job Sam. Those
lawn darts have a bit of an advantage though. Thought I saw you at Doug's hot
dog roast, na maybe not.

Jeff Sell
Q-200 kit


Chat?

Jim Patillo
 

Pat,

Can we start a chat line on this site for builders in need of
immediate information? I know when I was building that would have been
a great asset.

Jim P.


Re: Jim Patillo

Jim Patillo
 

Yor clueless my old pal! Its at the top of the message page just
before this one a box, in which you type your question and press
search and viola it appears! Oh by the way, its FREE. Now that's not
difficult is it?

Jim P.

Are you comin' up nex week?

--- In Q-LIST@..., larry severson <larry2@...> wrote:


It's just these questions along with a handful of others are always
the ones asked from new people that get on this list. If you would
simply take the time to reserach the archives you would find 99% the
information you are looking for. Why not give it a try. If you then
can't find the answer ask away and you'll get the answer.
Last I checked, it costs $400 to get a chance to research the
archives. I plan on spending the money when I get ahead, but it isn't
a simple task of "go look it up", or maybe after 2 + years of hanging
around I still am clueless.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Jim Patillo

raoborg@...
 

I have not gone to the archives in the last few days because every time I try I get the answer connection failed or timed out. I checked all my settings and they are OK.The archives site is the only one I am having trouble with. Any suggestions? Raoul

--- larry2@... wrote:

From: larry severson <larry2@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Jim Patillo
Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 17:30:42 -0700

It's just these questions along with a handful of others are always
the ones asked from new people that get on this list. If you would
simply take the time to reserach the archives you would find 99% the
information you are looking for. Why not give it a try. If you then
can't find the answer ask away and you'll get the answer.
Last I checked, it costs $400 to get a chance to research the
archives. I plan on spending the money when I get ahead, but it isn't
a simple task of "go look it up", or maybe after 2 + years of hanging
around I still am clueless.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...



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Re: Flames

chrishazlitt <chrishazlitt@...>
 

I suppose, if you push hard enough those words might fit in my
mouth. What does cheap mean to you guys? Under 20K sounds cheap to
me with all of the money and work put into these machi

I think you might be measuring with your own yard stick on that one
friend!

-- In Q-LIST@..., rbarbour27@... wrote:

Jim - This guy Hazlitt is another one trying to acquire a Quickie
on the
cheap. Sometime in the recent past he must've received a
transfusion from one
of the other cheapskates who demanded that we more experienced
builders are
going to have to spoon feed them 'cause they came onboard late in
the
program.........yeah right! All the cheapskates have to do is
mimic the geezers by
buying all of the back issues of Q-talk and subscribe to the
upcoming issues.


Dick Barbour
Tri-Q-200 building
Rogers, AR



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Re: Flames

Larry Severson
 

At 05:38 PM 8/13/2006, you wrote:

Jim - This guy Hazlitt is another one trying to acquire a Quickie on the
cheap. Sometime in the recent past he must've received a transfusion from one
of the other cheapskates who demanded that we more experienced builders are
going to have to spoon feed them 'cause they came onboard late in the
program.........yeah right! All the cheapskates have to do is mimic the geezers by
buying all of the back issues of Q-talk and subscribe to the upcoming issues.
Guilty. I hope to get them soon, but retirement doesn't always leave one flush.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Turbin Q2?

Larry Severson
 

At 10:57 AM 8/13/2006, you wrote:

Okay you Q2 guys don't laugh at me. But, has anyone put a turbin (and
I'm not talken about a midle-estern hat) in a Q2?
I saw a company (ATP now called something else) selling a complete set
up at Oshkosh 2001. It has 200hp, is light weight, and only about 25K.
They have put one in a RV4(?).
20 gal fuel tanks -> 20 gal/hr burn. Fun for a short time.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Livermore Fly-in

Larry Severson
 

P.S. As Pat said we are 5 days and counting. It's getting late now so
please let us know "by reply on this list" who's coming so we can have
enough food on hand.
My wife and I will be attending, unfortunately in a spam can. Due to engine heating problems that I hope to have solved Monday, I will not have my 40 hours done.

Is there any one who can get us a lift to the Sat and Sun morning breakfasts? We will stay at one of the hotels next to LVK, so we can walk the rest of the time.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Jim Patillo

Larry Severson
 

It's just these questions along with a handful of others are always
the ones asked from new people that get on this list. If you would
simply take the time to reserach the archives you would find 99% the
information you are looking for. Why not give it a try. If you then
can't find the answer ask away and you'll get the answer.
Last I checked, it costs $400 to get a chance to research the archives. I plan on spending the money when I get ahead, but it isn't a simple task of "go look it up", or maybe after 2 + years of hanging around I still am clueless.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Revmaster

Larry Severson
 

At 08:42 PM 8/12/2006, you wrote:

Or ask Revmaster if they sell a spark plug socket or recommend a brand
They don't, except to say "Buy a quality socket". They sent me a ground down one.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Revmaster

Larry Severson
 

At 06:36 AM 8/12/2006, you wrote:

I'm not recommending a Great Plains VW head, but when they machine their 2nd hole it has enough material removed to get your socket around the plug. I'm very surprized Revmaster doesn't do the same. Dave, maybe you should ask for it to be done.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
Joe's explanation is that the extra fin removal would result in less strength in the bolt area. The whole change over was caused by head cracks in the bolt area.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Kitplane Article

Larry Severson
 

At 05:00 AM 8/12/2006, you wrote:

Do you think it is due to the landing gear on the wingtips which
causes them to go off the side of the runway
(dragging brake on one side is a MAJOR problem)

, if they get too close
to it...
Ouch

or, due to the rudder being too ineffective below a certain
speed?
yes, minimum rudder control below 65MPH and virtually no tail wheel control until below 45.


If the rudder is part of the problem has anyone modified theirs to
be larger?
Yes, several Dragonfly type rudders have been installed on Q2s (including on my plane). Rudder control established down to 25MPH.





Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Jim Patillo, Q1, Super Quickie and Q2/

Mark A. Pearson <wlkabout@...>
 

Chris;
Where did you see this inspiring video? I'm putting a 532 in my Q1 and could use some serious motivation to get back to actually working on it.

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: chrishazlitt
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Jim Patillo, Q1, Super Quickie and Q2/


When I post here please forget I bought a DF project, I'm still
wanting a Q too but don't want to build one, I already have
something to work on that way. The Q1 is of interest to me because
of a video I saw that was increadible, but it actually wasn't a Q1,
it had a 583 Rotax in it. I realize that some don't like the thought
of using that particular engine on a Q1 but wow, it flew like a bird
with the high HP.

Another fellow has been in communication with me via email about his
53 HP Super Quickie and he said the same thing, it is as close to
flying like a bird was he has ever felt in an airplane.

Initially, my interest was in the Q2's, or Q200 and I can't say I
wouldn't buy one of those over a single place Quickie if I could
pull enough cash together and one showed up at the right time... I
could easily go that direction instead.

I think the rudder question comes from us know near nothings about
this aircraft due to how tiny the rudder looks in comparision to
other two place aircraft we have either seen or flown. I've got
hours, soloed on my 16th birthday with over 2K hours now in 25
different aircraft, but none in a canard so I suppose my having
bought this DF project and wishing I owned a Quickie of some kind is
foolish for having never flown with someone in one... yet, if it
flies, I don't care, it's beautiful! It can be fast, require skills
I may need to hone up on to fly it but wow, what a beautiful
machine.

I am have been working as a senior engineer in telecommunications so
in my own element I am considered very capable but with homebuilts,
being completely new to them I feel somewhat like like a fish out of
water in these groups and too defensive when someone tells me to
stop being redundant with my questions accusing Jim of flamming me
when it appears the folk here just aren't afraid to say what they
think... well... I did that too. I was primed because I had just got
finished barking at Sammy over at the Q200 engine group the night
before (email) for shewing me away from his group in public for my
having included a question about the Jabiru engine in a post on the
O-200 I had made and then the next thing I see when I get up in the
morning is is a post here with comments I wasn't in a mood for
before coffee.

Sometimes I think these things are somehow connected? LOL...

Thanks for your help guys.... I will do more archive searching
bofore clogging the group up with so many newbie questions in the
future.

--- In Q-LIST@..., "Keith Welsh" <kfly@...> wrote:
>
> HI Cris:
>
> So your looking for a Q1? I usually scan over these things and
perhaps missed the Q1 thing earlier. Not that much Q1 stuff on the
LIST.
>
> My reason for writing is that you will get more informative
answers to your questions from the Q1 crowd than the Q2 guys. Mainly
because most Q2 fellas have never flown a Q1. And most Q1 fellas
have had a ride in a Q2. Therefore your handling questions for the
Q1 will most likly get different answers from the Q1 guys. The two
Q's are really quite different animals despite looking the same.
>
> Now to ease your pain a bit. The Q1 is slow, performance similar
in stall and cruise to a C-150. That kind of plane performance wise,
at least with the Onan. It ain't fast on landing, final at 70 and
touchdown in the mid 50's, very responsive to control input and very
pleasantly responsive to aileron steering on the ground at speeds 20
and above. The rudder is more than enough to execute a very nice
slip when needed, it slips just as good as my C-170 proving the
rudder is FINE, I get so blown away at these rudder discussions they
are so unnecessary, ever wonder why the flyers never complain about
the rudder only the builders and dreamers?, and together with the
ailerons the directional control is more than adequate in x-winds.
>
> The only control surface with which I would like to see more
authority are the ailerons. When in a steep 60+ degree bank I
personally would like the plane to roll out a little faster. The
learning curve will be more concentrated with the stuff not
necessarily associated with with the span cans like learning the
tricks of aileron steering, very cool when mastered, the landing
configuration as opposed to the flying configuration. Most don't
realize the Q1 is in climb configuration when setting on the ground.
The configuration from flying to landing flair will take a little
getting used to but that will come quickly. On the other hand the Q2
definately benefits from a few upgrades, the Gall and 6 pack, but
the Q1 doesn't it's good per plans.
>
> All in all the Q1 is a fine flying machine which doesn't need
deviated from the plans. Build it per those plans and you will have
a plane to enjoy for many years.
>
> Keith Welsh
> 340+ hrs N494K
> Flying since May 1989
>
> P.S. I can understand why Jim and others get flamed at rudder and
handling questions. Got any idea how many times they have answered
them? Where these notions come from is a mystery to me but they sure
linger from generation to generation. Just like going from a C-150
to a Super Decathlon there is a learning curve and patients and
knowledge is golden.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: chrishazlitt
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 11:55 PM
> Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Jim Patillo
>
>
> I want a flying Q1... trying to get the money together now for
when
> the right opportunity presents itself. That is why so many
questions
> from me trying to zero in on the most predominant cause for
troubles,
> didn't mean to get anyones dander up with so many newbie
questions,
> it's settled now... I appreciate Jim's willingness to go to the
extent
> he did to educate me but if someone wants to flame me for being
> stupid, please email me directly in the future. :)
>
> --- In Q-LIST@..., Q2FLYBOY@ wrote:
> >
> > The Q rudder is fine.Plenty of authority in x winds and
steering.
> The
> > problem is there is not enough weight on the tailwheel to make
it
> steer. The
> > reflexor takes care of that . It corrects how the parts wher
glued
> together in
> > building.
> >
> > Dave Carlson
> > Q2 Revmaster 400 +hrs never dinged. In garage for sale.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Revmaster

Larry Severson
 

At 08:46 PM 8/11/2006, you wrote:

Larry,
Other than that, how is the auto plug conversion working out? Dave D
My only problem so far has been engine cooling. The engine starts and runs the same, but spark plugs are a lot cheaper.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Revmaster

Steve <sham@...>
 

Tad, I bought a deepwell socket and ground the outside diameter. Works well.

Steve Ham

----- Original Message -----
From: Tad Simpson
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 10:07 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Revmaster


I have a spam can project with a revmaster and to get the lower plugs/plug wires, I went to the harware store and got the $1.99 cheap spark plug wrench made from what looks like thinwall pipe. I cut a slot in the side to allow to get around the plug wire and use the 2nd one to get the plug. Sure made it easy for me.

Tad


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