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Re: Crashed Tri-Q
Peter & Chris, Christopher,
These kinds of statements don't even deserve an answer but I'll try any way. I am speaking from experience as well, maybe one hell of a lot more experience but nevertheless. Anyone who makes "ACCIDENTAL" take offs in a new airplane needs to reevaluate his or her skill set or consider another hobby. Its a clue! Yes, it does happen more that we would like to hear about and often finalizes in the death of the pilot. How could anyone in their right mind with minimal to no flying time or even thousands of hours make a split second decision to continue into the air and not know what the outcome will likely be. THERE SHOULD NEVER BE AN INADVERTANT TAKE OFF. Its not funny, not smart and very deadly. Bewildered Jim Patillo N46JP Q200 7500 hours + --- In Q-LIST@..., "Peter Harris" <peterjfharris@...> wrote: had been making excuses and told me to practice fast taxi.. up to 55KTS. Ifollowed his instructions and of course it started to fly and I judged thatthe only safe thing to do was open the throttle and fly it. My only tailwheelapproaches and liked the descent on final. Perfect conditions. I came over thefence at 65 Kts as taught in the C152, remembered the POH and as soon as theof the runway momentarily but it settled beautifully. I have never beenable to do that since as I make it faster now and always a 3 point landing, butwill try it again some day, it makes for a short field roll. The canardacts like an air brake for a few seconds.others. We recommend a heap of ground runs, just be careful not to go too fastbefore you are really ready and committed to fly. Apart from yaw atrotation it is easy to fly, but think about the landing. The only trick with the Qbirds is in landing technique and this becomes second nature to those with a fewbite you. Behalf Of Jim Patillo
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Re: Crashed Tri-Q
Ron Triano <rondefly@...>
Sad story, Thank God you are alive to talk about it. You are on the right
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list now though. There are some old time Q flyers on here that have most of the answers, shame advantage wasn't taken to get advice etc. from them prior to the incident. I guess those nose gears will bite. Ron Triano Sonerai taxi testing <http://bld01.ipowerweb.com/contentmanagement/websites/rtrianoc/page11.html> http://bld01.ipowerweb.com/contentmanagement/websites/rtrianoc/page11.html
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From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of yellow_tri Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 2:53 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: [Q-LIST] Crashed Tri-Q N33LQ (Tri-Q) was wrecked beyond repair on 8/29. Mechanical parts and elevators and ailerons are okay, they are available for sale. Revmaster engine, approximately 500 hours; new pistons, cylinders, rings about 10 hours. Revmaster carb, belt driven air pump. Ran perfect, started easily. Main gear, tires (new), wheels, disc brakes with new rotors and pads, all farings and wheel pants. Entire instrument panel: Softcom intercom, VAL com 760 TSO, Narco AT150 TSO transponder w/altitude encoder, fuel gauge, EGT/CHT combo gauge, ammeter, oil pressure, oil temp, compass, Attitude Indicator (art horiz), VG, Air speed (to 200), altimeter, Vertical Speed, tachometer, and Hobbs with 233 hours. Open to offers. Chalk the wreck up to inexperience with these types of aircraft. I had never flown one of these, nobody here at my airport (Grants Pass, OR) had either. I had never flown a wrist action joystick. I had made about 2 dozen fast taxi's down the runway (accidentally lifted off at 65 mph once, came down and destroyed the nose gear). This time I held forward pressure until the A/S passed 70 and was accelerating, then eased back on the joystick. Lift off seemed normal at first then there was a HARD roll left. I corrected to the right, but chickened out on continuing the takeoff, cut the throttle and headed back toward the runway. The plane came down hard and took out the nose gear yet again, eventually left the runway and nosed over in the dirt. My one experience with a non-certified aircraft. I can be reached at: chrisdolly@clearwir <mailto:chrisdolly%40clearwire.net> e.net
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Re: Crashed Tri-Q
Christopher <qdf_files@...>
Make that, "it took off much faster than I thought it would" - the
airspeed indicator hadn't even started to rise yet, duh. --- In Q-LIST@..., "Christopher" <qdf_files@...> wrote: it had been signed off by an A&P for its annual!had about 25hrs in a C152 at the time. On my 4th high speed run Ilooked out the side and discovered to my horror that I was airborne. Ithe seatbelt (always be prepared for flight when taxiing). I did ain front of another a/c holding at the end of the runway. My planedid 1 big bounce and then stopped - all the forward energy absorbed byI did have to explain myself to the rather furious CFI who had seenC172 and did an "ag style" takeoff, right across the aerodrome, he wasHe also ended up "on the mat" in front of the CFI. Great fun thosebut he had been55KTS.making excuses and told me to practice fast taxi.. up to I followedtraininghis instructions and of course it started to fly and I judgedthat the onlysafe thing to do was open the throttle and fly it. My onlytailwheelendorsement was in a PA18 and I had less than 40 hours in adummyC152.total time. approachesoverand liked the descent on final. Perfect conditions. I came the fence atas65 Kts as taught in the C152, remembered the POH and as soon thebeentailwheel touched I pulled the nose up hard, full stall, lostsight of therunway momentarily but it settled beautifully. I have never able to dolanding,that since as I make it faster now and always a 3 point but willtotry it again some day, it makes for a short field roll. Thecanard acts likean air brake for a few seconds. others. WeOnrecommend a heap of ground runs, just be careful not to go toofast beforeyou are really ready and committed to fly. Apart from yaw atrotation it iseasy to fly, but think about the landing. The only trick withthe Q birds isin landing technique and this becomes second nature to thosewith a fewhours but IMO the very simple secret (for the draggers) is toNEVER takeeyes off the far end of the runway otherwise PIO will kick inand bite you.They are a Behalf OfbecomeJim Patillo fromanother smoking hole in the ground. atLivermore, CA where there's more collective Q knowledge than onetheseof our events. Had you reached out you could have avoided firststupid mistakes. A hard left roll tendancy is normal for a off?flight and everone here knows it. Once the left elevator istrimedthe issue is resolved. Further how does one accidently lift andI've never been able to get my arms around that one! If you yourtheplane weren't prepared for flight you should have never left control",ground.planes a neededwhich is rediculous.fly com,which usually works. disc"yellow_tri" <chrisdolly@> wrote:parts Entirebrakes seemed> instrument panel: Softcom intercom, VAL com 760 TSO, NarcoAT150TSOgauge, > normal at first then there was a HARD roll left. I correctedtotheand
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Re: Crashed Tri-Q
Christopher <qdf_files@...>
One more,
I did a test run in an airplane I bought, just told the tower I wanted to do a fast taxi down the runway without taking off. The bird took off at a much faster speed than I thought it would and startled me so much I put full power in (lots of runway left) and told the tower I was taking off.... The airspeed indicator was broken, dead... no wonder... THAT and it had been signed off by an A&P for its annual! --- In Q-LIST@..., "Allan Farr" <afarr@...> wrote: inadvertently, apparently it happens alot that's why it is even warned against in the Q POH. My unintentional takeoff happened in 1975 when I was fast taxing a Taylor Monoplane (taildragger), I had about 25hrs in a C152 at the time. On my 4th high speed run I looked out the side and discovered to my horror that I was airborne. I immediately closed the throttle, but at the same time I realized that the end of the runway (grass) was coming up, so I shoved the power on again. As I flew downwind, I thought I would probably crash, so I tried to hold the stick with my knees while I put on the seatbelt (always be prepared for flight when taxiing). I did a fairly erratic circuit, and ended up making a heavy landing right in front of another a/c holding at the end of the runway. My plane did 1 big bounce and then stopped - all the forward energy absorbed by the bounce. Luckily there was no harm done to me or the plane but I did have to explain myself to the rather furious CFI who had seen the whole thing. Also a friend who had seen me takeoff and almost stall/spin when I momentarily closed the throttle, jumped in a C172 and did an "ag style" takeoff, right across the aerodrome, he was thinking he may be needed to help get me back down in one piece. He also ended up "on the mat" in front of the CFI. Great fun those early flying days, but I don't intend to repeat that sort of incident once I start fast taxiing my Q. Allan Faccidental take off. My CFI was supposed to check himself into my Q dragger buthe had been making excuses and told me to practice fast taxi.. up to 55KTS.I followed his instructions and of course it started to fly and I judgedthat the only safe thing to do was open the throttle and fly it. My onlytailwheel endorsement was in a PA18 and I had less than 40 hours trainingin a C152.total time.approaches and liked the descent on final. Perfect conditions. I came overthe fence at 65 Kts as taught in the C152, remembered the POH and as soon asthe tailwheel touched I pulled the nose up hard, full stall, lostsight of the runway momentarily but it settled beautifully. I have never beenable to do that since as I make it faster now and always a 3 point landing,but will try it again some day, it makes for a short field roll. Thecanard acts like an air brake for a few seconds.others. We recommend a heap of ground runs, just be careful not to go toofast before you are really ready and committed to fly. Apart from yaw atrotation it is easy to fly, but think about the landing. The only trick withthe Q birds is in landing technique and this becomes second nature to thosewith a few hours but IMO the very simple secret (for the draggers) is toNEVER take eyes off the far end of the runway otherwise PIO will kick inand bite you. They are a legend to fly.Behalf Of Jim Patilloone of our events. Had you reached out you could have avoided thesetrimed the issue is resolved. Further how does one accidently lift off?your plane weren't prepared for flight you should have never left theplanes a bad reputation it does not deserve. Its because of individualslike you that this airplane is considered "hard to fly and control",fly than a revemaster tricycle gear Q and have never even had itparts > and elevators and ailerons are okay, they are available forsale. > Revmaster engine, approximately 500 hours; new pistons,cylinders, > rings about 10 hours. Revmaster carb, belt driven air pump.Ran > perfect, started easily. Main gear, tires (new), wheels, discAT150 TSOgauge, > ammeter, oil pressure, oil temp, compass, Attitude Indicator(art > horiz), VG, Air speed (to 200), altimeter, Vertical Speed,aircraft. I(Grants Pass,had > made about 2 dozen fast taxi's down the runway (accidentallyThis > time I held forward pressure until the A/S passed 70 and wasto theand tooknosed > over in the dirt. My one experience with a non-certifiedaircraft. > I can be reached at: chrisdolly@
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Re: Crashed Tri-Q
Allan Farr <afarr@...>
Wow - a happy outcome, the best sort. I have also taken off inadvertently, apparently it happens alot that's why it is even warned against in the Q POH. My unintentional takeoff happened in 1975 when I was fast taxing a Taylor Monoplane (taildragger), I had about 25hrs in a C152 at the time. On my 4th high speed run I looked out the side and discovered to my horror that I was airborne. I immediately closed the throttle, but at the same time I realized that the end of the runway (grass) was coming up, so I shoved the power on again. As I flew downwind, I thought I would probably crash, so I tried to hold the stick with my knees while I put on the seatbelt (always be prepared for flight when taxiing). I did a fairly erratic circuit, and ended up making a heavy landing right in front of another a/c holding at the end of the runway. My plane did 1 big bounce and then stopped - all the forward energy absorbed by the bounce. Luckily there was no harm done to me or the plane but I did have to explain myself to the rather furious CFI who had seen the whole thing. Also a friend who had seen me takeoff and almost stall/spin when I momentarily closed the throttle, jumped in a C172 and did an "ag style" takeoff, right across the aerodrome, he was thinking he may be needed to help get me back down in one piece. He also ended up "on the mat" in front of the CFI. Great fun those early flying days, but I don't intend to repeat that sort of incident once I start fast taxiing my Q.
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From: Peter Harris To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2006 18:52 Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: Crashed Tri-Q Chris,Jim for what its worth my first flight ALSO was an accidental take off. My CFI was supposed to check himself into my Q dragger but he had been making excuses and told me to practice fast taxi.. up to 55KTS. I followed his instructions and of course it started to fly and I judged that the only safe thing to do was open the throttle and fly it. My only tailwheel endorsement was in a PA18 and I had less than 40 hours training in a C152.total time. After some time in the training area I returned, made two dummy approaches and liked the descent on final. Perfect conditions. I came over the fence at 65 Kts as taught in the C152, remembered the POH and as soon as the tailwheel touched I pulled the nose up hard, full stall, lost sight of the runway momentarily but it settled beautifully. I have never been able to do that since as I make it faster now and always a 3 point landing, but will try it again some day, it makes for a short field roll. The canard acts like an air brake for a few seconds. Basically I think this accidental take off thing COULD happen to others. We recommend a heap of ground runs, just be careful not to go too fast before you are really ready and committed to fly. Apart from yaw at rotation it is easy to fly, but think about the landing. The only trick with the Q birds is in landing technique and this becomes second nature to those with a few hours but IMO the very simple secret (for the draggers) is to NEVER take eyes off the far end of the runway otherwise PIO will kick in and bite you. Very sad Chris and hope you reconsider and rebuild that bird. They are a legend to fly. Peter (I rebuilt a canard and very happy for it) _____ From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Jim Patillo Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2006 9:23 AM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Crashed Tri-Q Chris, I'm sorry to hear about your accident and glad you didn't become another smoking hole in the ground. Its kind of interesting you're only a couple of hours away from Livermore, CA where there's more collective Q knowledge than anywhere. Yet you never identified yourself or ever showed up at one of our events. Had you reached out you could have avoided these stupid mistakes. A hard left roll tendancy is normal for a first flight and everone here knows it. Once the left elevator is trimed the issue is resolved. Further how does one accidently lift off? I've never been able to get my arms around that one! If you and your plane weren't prepared for flight you should have never left the ground. Unfortunately these kinds of accidents continue giving our planes a bad reputation it does not deserve. Its because of individuals like you that this airplane is considered "hard to fly and control", which is rediculous. I have about 800 hours on my Q200 which is a lot more plane to fly than a revemaster tricycle gear Q and have never even had it sideways on the runway. I am not an aviation wizard or an exceptional pilot but have tried to use comon sense when needed which usually works. Regards, Jim Patillo N46JP Q200 790 hours. --- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com, "yellow_tri" <chrisdolly@...> wrote: > > N33LQ (Tri-Q) was wrecked beyond repair on 8/29. Mechanical parts > and elevators and ailerons are okay, they are available for sale. > Revmaster engine, approximately 500 hours; new pistons, cylinders, > rings about 10 hours. Revmaster carb, belt driven air pump. Ran > perfect, started easily. Main gear, tires (new), wheels, disc brakes > with new rotors and pads, all farings and wheel pants. Entire > instrument panel: Softcom intercom, VAL com 760 TSO, Narco AT150 TSO > transponder w/altitude encoder, fuel gauge, EGT/CHT combo gauge, > ammeter, oil pressure, oil temp, compass, Attitude Indicator (art > horiz), VG, Air speed (to 200), altimeter, Vertical Speed, > tachometer, and Hobbs with 233 hours. Open to offers. > Chalk the wreck up to inexperience with these types of aircraft. I > had never flown one of these, nobody here at my airport (Grants Pass, > OR) had either. I had never flown a wrist action joystick. I had > made about 2 dozen fast taxi's down the runway (accidentally lifted > off at 65 mph once, came down and destroyed the nose gear). This > time I held forward pressure until the A/S passed 70 and was > accelerating, then eased back on the joystick. Lift off seemed > normal at first then there was a HARD roll left. I corrected to the > right, but chickened out on continuing the takeoff, cut the throttle > and headed back toward the runway. The plane came down hard and took > out the nose gear yet again, eventually left the runway and nosed > over in the dirt. My one experience with a non-certified aircraft. > I can be reached at: chrisdolly@... >
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Re: Crashed Tri-Q
Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
Chris,Jim for what its worth my first flight ALSO was an accidental take
off. My CFI was supposed to check himself into my Q dragger but he had been making excuses and told me to practice fast taxi.. up to 55KTS. I followed his instructions and of course it started to fly and I judged that the only safe thing to do was open the throttle and fly it. My only tailwheel endorsement was in a PA18 and I had less than 40 hours training in a C152.total time. After some time in the training area I returned, made two dummy approaches and liked the descent on final. Perfect conditions. I came over the fence at 65 Kts as taught in the C152, remembered the POH and as soon as the tailwheel touched I pulled the nose up hard, full stall, lost sight of the runway momentarily but it settled beautifully. I have never been able to do that since as I make it faster now and always a 3 point landing, but will try it again some day, it makes for a short field roll. The canard acts like an air brake for a few seconds. Basically I think this accidental take off thing COULD happen to others. We recommend a heap of ground runs, just be careful not to go too fast before you are really ready and committed to fly. Apart from yaw at rotation it is easy to fly, but think about the landing. The only trick with the Q birds is in landing technique and this becomes second nature to those with a few hours but IMO the very simple secret (for the draggers) is to NEVER take eyes off the far end of the runway otherwise PIO will kick in and bite you. Very sad Chris and hope you reconsider and rebuild that bird. They are a legend to fly. Peter (I rebuilt a canard and very happy for it) _____ From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Jim Patillo Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2006 9:23 AM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Crashed Tri-Q Chris, I'm sorry to hear about your accident and glad you didn't become another smoking hole in the ground. Its kind of interesting you're only a couple of hours away from Livermore, CA where there's more collective Q knowledge than anywhere. Yet you never identified yourself or ever showed up at one of our events. Had you reached out you could have avoided these stupid mistakes. A hard left roll tendancy is normal for a first flight and everone here knows it. Once the left elevator is trimed the issue is resolved. Further how does one accidently lift off? I've never been able to get my arms around that one! If you and your plane weren't prepared for flight you should have never left the ground. Unfortunately these kinds of accidents continue giving our planes a bad reputation it does not deserve. Its because of individuals like you that this airplane is considered "hard to fly and control", which is rediculous. I have about 800 hours on my Q200 which is a lot more plane to fly than a revemaster tricycle gear Q and have never even had it sideways on the runway. I am not an aviation wizard or an exceptional pilot but have tried to use comon sense when needed which usually works. Regards, Jim Patillo N46JP Q200 790 hours. --- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com, "yellow_tri" <chrisdolly@...> wrote: brakes with new rotors and pads, all farings and wheel pants. EntireTSO transponder w/altitude encoder, fuel gauge, EGT/CHT combo gauge,I had never flown one of these, nobody here at my airport (GrantsPass, OR) had either. I had never flown a wrist action joystick. I hadlifted off at 65 mph once, came down and destroyed the nose gear). Thisthe right, but chickened out on continuing the takeoff, cut thethrottle and headed back toward the runway. The plane came down hard andtook out the nose gear yet again, eventually left the runway and nosed
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Re: Crashed Tri-Q
Mark A. Pearson <wlkabout@...>
Chris:
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Glad you didn't end up a "smoking hole in the ground" (as Jim noted) and not withstanding the chastising you have coming for violating so much of what the "old heads" have to say; with an experimental it is never "wrecked beyond repair." The major structures of a Q are in some ways the easiest to build. With a little experienced help (in my case Sam Hoskins) a wing can be built in a few days -- waiting for the glass to finish hardening slows you down. With judicious planning and adequate work space a canard and a main wing can be built simultaneously. I hate to see another airframe become a statistic and the plane get an undeserved black eye. Just my two cents worth. Again, glad YOU didn't become a statistic. Mark Pearson
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From: yellow_tri To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 4:52 PM Subject: [Q-LIST] Crashed Tri-Q N33LQ (Tri-Q) was wrecked beyond repair on 8/29. Mechanical parts and elevators and ailerons are okay, they are available for sale. Revmaster engine, approximately 500 hours; new pistons, cylinders, rings about 10 hours. Revmaster carb, belt driven air pump. Ran perfect, started easily. Main gear, tires (new), wheels, disc brakes with new rotors and pads, all farings and wheel pants. Entire instrument panel: Softcom intercom, VAL com 760 TSO, Narco AT150 TSO transponder w/altitude encoder, fuel gauge, EGT/CHT combo gauge, ammeter, oil pressure, oil temp, compass, Attitude Indicator (art horiz), VG, Air speed (to 200), altimeter, Vertical Speed, tachometer, and Hobbs with 233 hours. Open to offers. Chalk the wreck up to inexperience with these types of aircraft. I had never flown one of these, nobody here at my airport (Grants Pass, OR) had either. I had never flown a wrist action joystick. I had made about 2 dozen fast taxi's down the runway (accidentally lifted off at 65 mph once, came down and destroyed the nose gear). This time I held forward pressure until the A/S passed 70 and was accelerating, then eased back on the joystick. Lift off seemed normal at first then there was a HARD roll left. I corrected to the right, but chickened out on continuing the takeoff, cut the throttle and headed back toward the runway. The plane came down hard and took out the nose gear yet again, eventually left the runway and nosed over in the dirt. My one experience with a non-certified aircraft. I can be reached at: chrisdolly@...
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Re: Inspector and Instructor for Q-2
Sam Hoskins <shoskins@...>
Phil, I hope you read the recent "Crashed Tri-Q" messages. That too, can be
you. Don't fly until Jerry says you're ready. Getting "comfortable" is not enough. Also, you might want to read this, particularly the last paragraph: http://home.mchsi.com/~shoskins/wantQuickie.html Jerry has a proven aircraft. Sam _____ From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of philmarshall05640 Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:57 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: [Q-LIST] Inspector and Instructor for Q-2 I am buying a Q-2 from Jerry Kennedy in Sioux Falls, SD. I am flying out to get it Sept 20th. Is there anyone on the list who can vouch for Jerry's Q-2 or could come and inspect it for me? I will also need to get at least 5 hours of dual with an instructor with time in a Quickie because the insurance company insists (and it's a good idea). I'm willing to fly with Jerry to get comfortable with it and fly somewhere to get instruction. I hope to go to the fly-in on the 23rd, but the weather may prevent it. I will be flying it back to Vermont in anycase. Phil Marshall, 450 hours (SEL & glider) Kitfox N1585F and (soon) Q-2 N214FK Adamant, VT phil@signalz. <mailto:phil%40signalz.com> com
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Re: Crashed Tri-Q
Steve <sham@...>
OUCH!!!! but true
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From: Jim Patillo To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:23 PM Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Crashed Tri-Q Chris, I'm sorry to hear about your accident and glad you didn't become another smoking hole in the ground. Its kind of interesting you're only a couple of hours away from Livermore, CA where there's more collective Q knowledge than anywhere. Yet you never identified yourself or ever showed up at one of our events. Had you reached out you could have avoided these stupid mistakes. A hard left roll tendancy is normal for a first flight and everone here knows it. Once the left elevator is trimed the issue is resolved. Further how does one accidently lift off? I've never been able to get my arms around that one! If you and your plane weren't prepared for flight you should have never left the ground. Unfortunately these kinds of accidents continue giving our planes a bad reputation it does not deserve. Its because of individuals like you that this airplane is considered "hard to fly and control", which is rediculous. I have about 800 hours on my Q200 which is a lot more plane to fly than a revemaster tricycle gear Q and have never even had it sideways on the runway. I am not an aviation wizard or an exceptional pilot but have tried to use comon sense when needed which usually works. Regards, Jim Patillo N46JP Q200 790 hours. --- In Q-LIST@..., "yellow_tri" <chrisdolly@...> wrote: > > N33LQ (Tri-Q) was wrecked beyond repair on 8/29. Mechanical parts > and elevators and ailerons are okay, they are available for sale. > Revmaster engine, approximately 500 hours; new pistons, cylinders, > rings about 10 hours. Revmaster carb, belt driven air pump. Ran > perfect, started easily. Main gear, tires (new), wheels, disc brakes > with new rotors and pads, all farings and wheel pants. Entire > instrument panel: Softcom intercom, VAL com 760 TSO, Narco AT150 TSO > transponder w/altitude encoder, fuel gauge, EGT/CHT combo gauge, > ammeter, oil pressure, oil temp, compass, Attitude Indicator (art > horiz), VG, Air speed (to 200), altimeter, Vertical Speed, > tachometer, and Hobbs with 233 hours. Open to offers. > Chalk the wreck up to inexperience with these types of aircraft. I > had never flown one of these, nobody here at my airport (Grants Pass, > OR) had either. I had never flown a wrist action joystick. I had > made about 2 dozen fast taxi's down the runway (accidentally lifted > off at 65 mph once, came down and destroyed the nose gear). This > time I held forward pressure until the A/S passed 70 and was > accelerating, then eased back on the joystick. Lift off seemed > normal at first then there was a HARD roll left. I corrected to the > right, but chickened out on continuing the takeoff, cut the throttle > and headed back toward the runway. The plane came down hard and took > out the nose gear yet again, eventually left the runway and nosed > over in the dirt. My one experience with a non-certified aircraft. > I can be reached at: chrisdolly@... >
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Re: WANTED looking for a q2 q-200 kit
Webcave
How about a Q200 email me mulqueen@...
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From: fifty101fifty@... To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 1:48 PM Subject: [Q-LIST] WANTED looking for a q2 q-200 kit hello all ... im looking for an unstated q2 or q200 kit .... does not have to be complete but all the pre fab stuff needs to be there (fuse halves, canopy, cowl etc) let me know what ya got ....thanx ________________________________________________________________________ Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free.
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Quickie Q-200 for sale
James Cartwright <james.cartwright@...>
Guys, I have been a part of the group for some time now as I have worked on my plane for several years and then had to put it aside due to some life events. I have just had one of the most un-expected life event happen to me. August 25 my wife gave birth to my first child which is my baby girl. I had not planned on this in my life but now I can not imagine being here with out her. All of this said I have made a decision that I would have never thought I would make. I am going to sell my Quickie Q-200 for a four seater. I appreciate the help from many of you and will be sad to see my Q-200 go. I have both the plane and engine that I will be putting up for sale if anyone is interested please let me know. I am looking for a Cessna 170 to take her place as our family wagon.
Thanks, James Cartwright Q-200 - was Building RV-8 Flying (Wish it had four seats) J-3 Piper Cub - Just started a restoration due to storm damage Hangered - M54 Lebanon, TN
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Re: Looking for a Q2 Cowl
Ron Weiss <ronweiss4@...>
---I have one. Call me at 310-760-2444 Ron
In Q-LIST@..., "M. M." <pistachio914@...> wrote: be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Crashed Tri-Q
Ron Weiss <ronweiss4@...>
--Hey Guy's, This is an unneccessary event. This was Kelly Poors old
plane. I have flown this plane and have spoken with Chris on a couple occasions. I offered my help as well as the groups to this guy and his failure is a waste! Not only is a good flying rare airplane destroyed, the cause will probably be blamed on the airplane. One question Chris.... Where were you when you needed help flying? I'm glad you're alright! But, very sad this had to happen....Ron - In Q-LIST@..., larry severson <larry2@...> wrote: inputA hard left roll tendancy is normal for a firstActually, I didn't know it, but it took a simple right aileron to level the plane.oneOnce the left elevator is trimedI did put in a roll trim system based at what I saw at a Livermore 190 lb pilot the elevator roll system needs about 5/8ths in trim.a plane as easy and smooth as mine has shown to be in my first 2flights.
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Update on the Tandem Wing Fly-in at Emporia, KS in 18 days!!!
spudspornitzks <spudspornitz@...>
Hello Everyone,
I hope everyone had a good Labor day, Our 16th Annual Field of Dreams Tandem Wing fly-in is only 18 days a way and everything is shaping up quite nicely, pre-registrations are rolling in, etc. I told everyone when we did the last update that we had a special event just for those flying in their Q's or DF's. We're having the first annual Q/DF Bird Poker Run. That's right girls and guys; we're playing "Texas Hold"em Poker". The "Poker Pot" will be based on a percentage of the overall attendance dollars. We'll pay out two of three places and of course the final hands will all be played at the Saturday Night awards banquet where we'll draw those last two cards (Can you feel the excitement building already). Should be a lot of fun and great way to winning a little gas money to make that return flight home just a little bit more fun! If we have any poker playing nuts out there (no Q/DF pilots) that would like to handle this portion of the event I would really appreciate the help and their knowledge. Suggestion: For those traveling in by car. There is a neat area that is back in the trees on the grass, but right on the edge across from the main display/ramp area. Bring your comfy chair/recliners (folding) as it's an awesome spot to watch the whole event "Relaxed". For those Q/DF pilots that are flying into the event and would like to camp. I have a few extra small tents. If the is any Q/DF pilots that would like to camp, but don't want to haul the tents, pillows, etc. let me know, first come-first served basis…. So you haven't sent in your registration yet! I'll save my "Last-Minute-Louie: and "Hello Mr. Procrastinator" speech till around the 14th or 15th as I know most of you were just preparing those pre-registrations and writing those checks as we speak (Right…) Very Best Regards, Your humble host for your 2006 16th Annual FOD Tandem Wing Fly-in, Spud Spornitz Olathe, Kansas (913) 764-5118 evenings (913) 484-0508 cell spudspornitz@...
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Looking for a Q2 Cowl
M. M. <pistachio914@...>
Hello,
I am looking to buy a Q2 cowling. Any help in finding one would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, MM --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
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Re: Q2 KIT FOR SALE
Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
Kiven, I have a new member who might be interested in your kit. Email me off list at: HawkiDoug@... and I'll give you his info.
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Doug "Hawkeye" Humble A Sign Above www.asignabove.net Omaha NE N25974
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From: KLWILKS10@... To: Q-LIST@... Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 6:08 PM Subject: [Q-LIST] Q2 KIT FOR SALE I HAVE A Q2 KIT THAT I WILL SELL THAT IS BASICLY UNTOCHED.IT HAS THE LS1 SPARS THAT ARE UNTOCHED. IF INTERESTED GET AHOLD OF ME (308) 379-1213 KEVIN WILKINSON
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Re: Inspector and Instructor for Q-2
Phil,
Congratulations on the purchase of your new Q. If you are picking up Jerry's "Q" in 15 days, what have you done to get yourself ready to fly this Q taildragger and understand the planes ideosycracies? If the answer is nothing then the results will be predictable. This is not a difficult plane to fly but without systems understanding and a proper check out for yourself and the plane, it might as well be a 727. If you are a current high time, complex, multi-engine, instrument rated pilot, I would still say the same. Just ask Geoff Rutledge or Phil Lankford or Ron Weise or Kevin Bodiker or David Hyatt or Larry Severson. They can clear up any mis understandings you may have. Its good that you are casting about for help. Thats a start! Try to find someone in your area right away and get up to speed. How far from Boston are you? Dave Dugas is in Boston and has a sweet flying Q taildragger, maybe he can offer some input. If you don't feel comfortable, trailer it! May not be as cool as flying it into your home airport but it will get there in one piece. Regards, Jim Patillo N46JP Q200 --- In Q-LIST@..., "philmarshall05640" <phil@...> wrote: flying out to get it Sept 20th. Is there anyone on the list who can vouchit's a good idea). I'm willing to fly with Jerry to get comfortablewith it and fly somewhere to get instruction. I hope to go to the fly-in on the 23rd, but the weather may prevent it. I will be flying itback to Vermont in anycase.
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Re: Q2 KIT FOR SALE
Jason Muscat <fifty101fifty@...>
im interested ... just let me know yoru price and if you have anny pictures please send them... thanx for your reply
KLWILKS10@... wrote: I HAVE A Q2 KIT THAT I WILL SELL THAT IS BASICLY UNTOCHED.IT HAS THE LS1 SPARS THAT ARE UNTOCHED. IF INTERESTED GET AHOLD OF ME (308) 379-1213 KEVIN WILKINSON --------------------------------- All-new Yahoo! Mail - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster.
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Inspector and Instructor for Q-2
philmarshall05640 <phil@...>
I am buying a Q-2 from Jerry Kennedy in Sioux Falls, SD. I am flying
out to get it Sept 20th. Is there anyone on the list who can vouch for Jerry's Q-2 or could come and inspect it for me? I will also need to get at least 5 hours of dual with an instructor with time in a Quickie because the insurance company insists (and it's a good idea). I'm willing to fly with Jerry to get comfortable with it and fly somewhere to get instruction. I hope to go to the fly-in on the 23rd, but the weather may prevent it. I will be flying it back to Vermont in anycase. Phil Marshall, 450 hours (SEL & glider) Kitfox N1585F and (soon) Q-2 N214FK Adamant, VT phil@...
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