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Re: Headset

Richard Hole <rickhole@...>
 

Lightspeed is a good unit. Last year while using a friends 3G (which
I liked a lot) the mic boom came loose. I called Lightspeed. The
tech guy told me how to disassemble and fix it, also sent me a
replacement mic and boom free of charge for an out-of-warranty unit.
Try to beat that!


Re: Flight characteristics questions

David J. Gall
 

Allan,

I don't think there's supposed to be any curve at all in the GU elevators.
My plans don't show any.


David J. Gall

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Allan Farr
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:40 PM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Flight characteristics questions

David,
The elevators on my GU canard appeared to me to have been put
on upside down by the original builder as the trailing edge
curved up. I have gone to alot of trouble flipping them over
so that the t/e curves down - do you think I should have left
them as is?
Allan Farr
Q2
P.S. On fast taxi runs with the elevators as they were (t/e
curved up), the canard didn't want to fly. I need all the
lift I can get up front, and that is one reason why I flipped
the elevators over.


Re: Flight characteristics questions

David J. Gall
 

Cap'n Dan,

They look like
someone didn't design something right and they had to add a fix.
BINGO! Well, not quite. Airfoil choices are a compromise and sometimes a
band-aid is needed to make a particular choice work in a particular
application. The LS(1) airfoil wasn't the only choice at the time, but it
had a goodly amount of marketing hype propelling it along in the early
'80's. We've since learned that its not such a hot GA airfoil after all, but
for a high wing loading (like on a Q200 canard) it is one of the "good"
choices. Unfortunately, its trailing edge is curved just the wrong way for a
canard elevator.

Strainers are one possible solution to fix such a problem, but not the best
for the hangar-rash issues you mention, among others. The advantage of the
strainers is that they have a long leverage arm behind the elevator hinge
line. You could use a fixed trim tab instead, but it would have to be pretty
large since it would be closer to the hinge line. See the Long-EZ "new"
canard with the Roncz 1145MS airfoil for the correct way to do it. Roncz
essentially designed a fixed trim tab into the airfoil along the entire span
of the elevator. Most people don't even notice that it is there, but it is.
It is "tweaked" so that the elevator's natural "floating" angle of
deflection is appropriate for a low cruise speed for the airplane without
any trim system or control system forces being applied. Your strainers
should be adjusted similarly, if the designers and builders did their jobs
right.

Meanwhile, since no one has adapted the Roncz airfoil to the Q-birds, I
recommend that you keep the strainers and follow the advice offered on this
list, especially the advice to have some experienced sets of eyes look over
your plane. I suspect you've got a problem with your strainers or maybe even
with the construction of your elevators.


David J. Gall
P.S. an anti-servo tab could be adapted, but it would only be flush at one
elevator deflection, likely close to full "up" elevator (trailing edge
down). Tabs, by their very nature, are not "flush."


-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Danny Creech
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:13 AM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Flight characteristics questions

< snip! >

2. More important though is: Are there any other ways to
fix this problem without having to put sparrow strainers on??
They increase drag, stick out being easy to damage from
airshow goers, and all in all they look ugly. They look like
someone didn't design something right and they had to add a fix.

Has anyone came up with some other way to fix this problem?
Is this problem only on the LS1 wing or do all of the Q2s and
Q200s have this problem? Would making a flush mounted tab
(anti-servo or something) into the elevator work?

,___
Capt. Danny Creech
^^ Not an aerodynamic engineer obviously.


Re: Flight characteristics questions

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Allen - can you take some photos and post them to the photos folder?

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: Allan Farr
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Flight characteristics questions


David,
The elevators on my GU canard appeared to me to have been put on upside down by the original builder as the trailing edge curved up. I have gone to alot of trouble flipping them over so that the t/e curves down - do you think I should have left them as is?
Allan Farr
Q2
P.S. On fast taxi runs with the elevators as they were (t/e curved up), the canard didn't want to fly. I need all the lift I can get up front, and that is one reason why I flipped the elevators over.

----- Original Message -----
From: david@gall.com
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:11
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Flight characteristics questions

Paul,

Not underneath. On top. It is UNdesirable to have undercambered
elevators on canards. It IS desireable to have a slight REFLEX (reverse
camber near the trailing edge) on the elevators of canard airplanes.
This is one distinct reason that the choice of the LS(1)-0417MOD
airfoil was such a POOR CHOICE for a canard airfoil, despite the fact
that it has been made to work. IIRC, the LS(1) canard was rumored to be
the breaking point between Rutan and the rest of QAC.

David J. Gall

----Original Message----
From: paulbuckley@onetel.com
Date: Oct 17, 2006 13:28
To: <Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com>
Subj: Re: [Q-LIST] Flight characteristics questions

Dave

As a matter of interest, an old method of achieving trim was to 'dope'
a length of string along the airfoil trailing edge, varying the length
to achieve the desired effect.
Do you think that this method could be used underneath the GU
elevators as an alternative to camber, if only as a temporary
explorative measure?

Paul Buckley
Cheshire
England


Re: Flight characteristics questions

Allan Farr <afarr@...>
 

David,
The elevators on my GU canard appeared to me to have been put on upside down by the original builder as the trailing edge curved up. I have gone to alot of trouble flipping them over so that the t/e curves down - do you think I should have left them as is?
Allan Farr
Q2
P.S. On fast taxi runs with the elevators as they were (t/e curved up), the canard didn't want to fly. I need all the lift I can get up front, and that is one reason why I flipped the elevators over.

----- Original Message -----
From: david@gall.com
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:11
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Flight characteristics questions


Paul,

Not underneath. On top. It is UNdesirable to have undercambered
elevators on canards. It IS desireable to have a slight REFLEX (reverse
camber near the trailing edge) on the elevators of canard airplanes.
This is one distinct reason that the choice of the LS(1)-0417MOD
airfoil was such a POOR CHOICE for a canard airfoil, despite the fact
that it has been made to work. IIRC, the LS(1) canard was rumored to be
the breaking point between Rutan and the rest of QAC.

David J. Gall

----Original Message----
From: paulbuckley@onetel.com
Date: Oct 17, 2006 13:28
To: <Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com>
Subj: Re: [Q-LIST] Flight characteristics questions

Dave

As a matter of interest, an old method of achieving trim was to 'dope'
a length of string along the airfoil trailing edge, varying the length
to achieve the desired effect.
Do you think that this method could be used underneath the GU
elevators as an alternative to camber, if only as a temporary
explorative measure?

Paul Buckley
Cheshire
England


New central TW locations (Low winds please)

David <quickieflying@...>
 

Jon,
I concur after my trip last month thru Nebraska and Wyoming. I had
the same experience at Crete, NB. and all of Wyoming mostly Cheyenne
where I landed with 45 to 50 mph winds luckily they were down the
runway but that didn't help taxi to Sky Harbor where I got spun
around and felt like I was going to get flipped. I also was met by
two crew that had me tied down before I could get out of my plane.
Nice folks for sure.
I think we need to find a place that minimizes the likelihood of
wind, the best we can.

David Hiatt


Ah yes, I remember it like it was only yesterday...

The flight started early AM in Helena, MT with a Rotax 503 Q1
headed for
Ottawa, KS with an overnight at Bound's place in Grant, NE.
Approaching Billings MT, moderate rain and stratus conditions set
in, lasted about 45 minutes. The Q1 would maintain altitude at full
throttle and full aft stick in the rain - barely. That was a fun
hour - I used both arms to hold that stick back and thought my right
wrist/forearm would either never recover or I would end up looking
like Popeye ('cept cuter)! Where can I land this thing!!!!!

Flying across Wyoming is always a treat. Flying along at 8500'
MSL, scraping the ground is always great fun. About an hour out from
Casper I started noticing uncommanded roll changes. A little later
and I was fighting like crazy to stay right side up - at that point
I knew that I was fighting some horrendous winds. The intervening
time was pure terror trying
to figure out if I had some sort of flight control problem or
structural failure. Precautionary landing on the moon (Wyoming) was
considered as was I-25 but decided against both. The only airport
that I could find that had a runway aligned with the wind was
Douglas, WY. Wished we had GPS back then as I bet my ground speed
from Casper to Douglas was awesome with that wind.

The landing at Douglas was a VERY hard fight with the wind about
20-30 degrees off my nose. The winds were howling so bad that I was
afraid to turn off the runway for fear of being flipped over. I
called the FBO, they came out and walked me in with guys on both
wing tips. In fact, they held the Q while I got out and then,
without letting go, we walked it into a hangar. The FBO's wind-o-
meter showed 52 kt winds gusting over 60 kts - it only went to 60
kts and was max'ing out during the gusts. I stayed the night there,
I had lost the urge to fly.....

Bounds is right, Wyoming has some wind!!! Stay safe out there
Paul - I admire you!!

Will save the "Cruising at 14,000' cause Bounds is afraid of the
ground", "Scud running with Charlie Harris", "EMERGENCY! Bad gas at
Salina, KS", and "Watch Out!!! Quickies in the pattern" stories from
that trip for another day.

Oh, VG's were installed a few weeks after that trip

Jon
Robert Bounds
The fall of the year is generally much less windy out here on the
plains.
There is no way to plan for the weather but I don't think the wind
is really
a consideration. It's not any worse here than anywhere else. Now
Wyoming,
that's another story. Ask Finley about having to radio the FBO in
Wyoming
to get some guys to come out and hold down his Quickie so he could
get out.
:-)
Bounds


Re: Flight characteristics questions

Danny Creech <dannycreech@...>
 

Yeah, stupid me. I knew I was going to get it on this one. GRIN

Danny Creech

Jim Patillo <logistics_engineering@msn.com> wrote:


Danny,

When you pull the stick back on a Q in flight, the elevator is
deflected down and the result is the nose goes up. Its a canard.

Jim Patillo

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, Danny Creech <dannycreech@...> wrote:

"David J. Gall" <David@...> wrote:
Without sparrow strainers, when the airplane inadvertently goes
faster than
its trimmed airspeed, the slight undercamber of the LS(1) elevator
causes
aerodynamic force that pushes the trailing edge of the elevator
up. This
lets the airplane's nose come down and allows the airplane to
accelerate to
a yet-higher speed. NOT GOOD!


Couple of points here.

1. If the TRAILING edge of an elevator goes up, then the nose of
the aircraft goes up. Not down. I re-read David's post several times
just to make sure I wasn't missing something.


2. More important though is: Are there any other ways to fix
this problem without having to put sparrow strainers on?? They
increase drag, stick out being easy to damage from airshow goers,
and all in all they look ugly. They look like someone didn't design
something right and they had to add a fix.

Has anyone came up with some other way to fix this problem? Is
this problem only on the LS1 wing or do all of the Q2s and Q200s
have this problem? Would making a flush mounted tab (anti-servo or
something) into the elevator work?

,___
Capt. Danny Creech
^^ Not an aerodynamic engineer obviously.




Re: Flight characteristics questions

Danny Creech <dannycreech@...>
 

Darn if your not right! As soon as you responded I thought about it and it only makes since! Sheeesh. I guess that is why I leave all the design to the engineers and I just fly them. <GRIN>

I just know I'm going to get drug through the mud for making that statment!

I guess I'm just not used to the tail being upfront where it belongs.

Your a funny guy Jon.

Danny Creech


>Not on our airplanes... . Elevator trailing edge up = nose down. Elevator
trailing edge down = nose up. David wrote it correctly.

This plus the fact that stick left = right roll and vice versa are the
reason that these planes are so hard to fly. ;-) (kidding about the roll
thing)

Jon Finley
N90MG - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22 Legacy


Re: Headset

John Loram <johnl@...>
 

Ron:
Give Lightspeed a call (Phone: 503.968.3113, Toll Free:
800.332.2421).
They usually have factory refurbished units available at a great
price, and the QFR-XCC ANR headset costs $300, new.

They'll add the cell feature to any of there headsets for $75. That
includes old headset (for you guys that already have a lightspeed).

Here is a link to their 'reconditioned' page;
http://www.anrheadsets.com/productsrecon.asp

-john-

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, "Ron Triano" <rondefly@...> wrote:

Does anyone have a headset they would like to part with? I need a
better set
that will cut out some of the noise from the prop and engine. Not
quite
ready to part with 600 + for a real nice set yet. Let me know what
you have
and how much you need to get for it at rondefly@...



Thanks



Ron Triano

South Lake Tahoe, CA

Sonerai flying, Q200 getting there





Re: Headset

Jim Patillo
 

30 3G's really are good head sets, not to mention the factory
backup. I had 25XLs for some time and upgraded to the 3G's when they
came out. My opinnion is they are vastly improved over an already
good headset. I use the phone/ipod feature all the time. If your are
locked into a cell they are just like talking from your living room.

JP Q200

and --- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, Danny Creech <dannycreech@...>
wrote:

What a deal Phil. Ron, I would take him up on the 30 G3s.

I have been using the LightSpeed G3s for almost three years. I
LOVE THEM. They work great and being able to plug in my MP3 player
as well as my Cell phone is a plus. Anytime ATC talks to you while
you are listening to music, it lowers the music.

I used the Cell phone feature back when I flew cargo out of
small fields. At night when I landed I would call FSS and close my
IFR flight plan while taxing in.

Capt. Danny Creech

britmcman@... wrote:
Ron:

If you like, I could lend you a Marv Golden Logo'd version of the
Lightspeed
QFR Cross Country C. It has a cell phone interface and is a pretty
nice
unit. Or a 30 3 G Lightspeed (also with cell phone interface). You
can get an
idea about what some of the Lightspeed products are all about. I
trust you.

Cheers,

Phil

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Re: Flight characteristics questions

Jon Finley <jon@...>
 

Not on our airplanes.... Elevator trailing edge up = nose down. Elevator
trailing edge down = nose up. David wrote it correctly.

This plus the fact that stick left = right roll and vice versa are the
reason that these planes are so hard to fly. ;-) (kidding about the roll
thing)

Jon Finley
N90MG - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22 Legacy
http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru
Mid-Valley Airpark, Los Lunas, NM

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of
Danny Creech
Couple of points here.

1. If the TRAILING edge of an elevator goes up, then the nose of the
aircraft goes up. Not down. I re-read David's post several times just to
make sure I wasn't missing something.


Re: Flight characteristics questions

Paul Buckley
 

Not this elevator.........it's at the front!

----- Original Message -----
From: Danny Creech
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:13 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Flight characteristics questions


>"David J. Gall" <David@Gall.com> wrote:
>Without sparrow strainers, when the airplane inadvertently goes faster than
its trimmed airspeed, the slight undercamber of the LS(1) elevator causes
aerodynamic force that pushes the trailing edge of the elevator up. This
lets the airplane's nose come down and allows the airplane to accelerate to
a yet-higher speed. NOT GOOD!


Couple of points here.

1. If the TRAILING edge of an elevator goes up, then the nose of the aircraft goes up. Not down. I re-read David's post several times just to make sure I wasn't missing something.


2. More important though is: Are there any other ways to fix this problem without having to put sparrow strainers on?? They increase drag, stick out being easy to damage from airshow goers, and all in all they look ugly. They look like someone didn't design something right and they had to add a fix.

Has anyone came up with some other way to fix this problem? Is this problem only on the LS1 wing or do all of the Q2s and Q200s have this problem? Would making a flush mounted tab (anti-servo or something) into the elevator work?

,___
Capt. Danny Creech
^^ Not an aerodynamic engineer obviously.








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Re: Flight characteristics questions

Jim Patillo
 

Danny,

When you pull the stick back on a Q in flight, the elevator is
deflected down and the result is the nose goes up. Its a canard.

Jim Patillo

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, Danny Creech <dannycreech@...> wrote:

"David J. Gall" <David@...> wrote:
>Without sparrow strainers, when the airplane inadvertently goes
faster than
its trimmed airspeed, the slight undercamber of the LS(1) elevator
causes
aerodynamic force that pushes the trailing edge of the elevator
up. This
lets the airplane's nose come down and allows the airplane to
accelerate to
a yet-higher speed. NOT GOOD!


Couple of points here.

1. If the TRAILING edge of an elevator goes up, then the nose of
the aircraft goes up. Not down. I re-read David's post several times
just to make sure I wasn't missing something.


2. More important though is: Are there any other ways to fix
this problem without having to put sparrow strainers on?? They
increase drag, stick out being easy to damage from airshow goers,
and all in all they look ugly. They look like someone didn't design
something right and they had to add a fix.

Has anyone came up with some other way to fix this problem? Is
this problem only on the LS1 wing or do all of the Q2s and Q200s
have this problem? Would making a flush mounted tab (anti-servo or
something) into the elevator work?

,___
Capt. Danny Creech
^^ Not an aerodynamic engineer obviously.




Re: Headset

Danny Creech <dannycreech@...>
 

What a deal Phil. Ron, I would take him up on the 30 G3s.

I have been using the LightSpeed G3s for almost three years. I LOVE THEM. They work great and being able to plug in my MP3 player as well as my Cell phone is a plus. Anytime ATC talks to you while you are listening to music, it lowers the music.

I used the Cell phone feature back when I flew cargo out of small fields. At night when I landed I would call FSS and close my IFR flight plan while taxing in.

Capt. Danny Creech

britmcman@aol.com wrote:
Ron:

If you like, I could lend you a Marv Golden Logo'd version of the Lightspeed
QFR Cross Country C. It has a cell phone interface and is a pretty nice
unit. Or a 30 3 G Lightspeed (also with cell phone interface). You can get an
idea about what some of the Lightspeed products are all about. I trust you.

Cheers,

Phil


Re: Flight characteristics questions

Danny Creech <dannycreech@...>
 

"David J. Gall" <David@Gall.com> wrote:
>Without sparrow strainers, when the airplane inadvertently goes faster than
its trimmed airspeed, the slight undercamber of the LS(1) elevator causes
aerodynamic force that pushes the trailing edge of the elevator up. This
lets the airplane's nose come down and allows the airplane to accelerate to
a yet-higher speed. NOT GOOD!


Couple of points here.

1. If the TRAILING edge of an elevator goes up, then the nose of the aircraft goes up. Not down. I re-read David's post several times just to make sure I wasn't missing something.


2. More important though is: Are there any other ways to fix this problem without having to put sparrow strainers on?? They increase drag, stick out being easy to damage from airshow goers, and all in all they look ugly. They look like someone didn't design something right and they had to add a fix.

Has anyone came up with some other way to fix this problem? Is this problem only on the LS1 wing or do all of the Q2s and Q200s have this problem? Would making a flush mounted tab (anti-servo or something) into the elevator work?

,___
Capt. Danny Creech
^^ Not an aerodynamic engineer obviously.


Re: Headset

BARRY AMANDA STEARNS <stearns2559@...>
 

Ron,
I have the headsets at my work place as another gentleman was interested at it. It's locked in my office at this time and I am home sick with the flu. I will send info tomorrow.

Barry

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Triano<mailto:rondefly@rtriano.com>
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 7:51 AM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Headset


Barry, what is the model # of the headset?

Ron Triano

South Lake Tahoe, CA

Sonerai there and Q200 gettin there

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
BARRY AMANDA STEARNS
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 8:40 PM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Headset

No they do not have a cell phone plug but Sporty's sells an adapter that
will interface with the cell phone and is made for "aircraft" use.

Barry
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com>
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
com<mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Headset

Barry, thanks for the reply, do they have a cell phone plug-in?

Ron Triano

South Lake Tahoe, CA

Sonerai there and Q200 gettin there

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
com<mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com>
[mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
com<mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com>] On
Behalf Of
BARRY AMANDA STEARNS
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 5:13 PM
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com<mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Headset

I have a noise cancelling telex headset powered by batteries for $250.00
plus shipping....New....that is I have wore them twice for a length of 1
hour total and bought them from a display case where they sat for a few
years....they lowered the price and I nabbed them. I was given a set of bose
headsets so don't need these anymore. Retail was around $475 for these I
believe.

Barry
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com>
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
com<mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Cc: sonerai_aircraft@ <mailto:sonerai_aircraft%40yahoogroups.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 8:19 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Headset

Does anyone have a headset they would like to part with? I need a better set
that will cut out some of the noise from the prop and engine. Not quite
ready to part with 600 + for a real nice set yet. Let me know what you have
and how much you need to get for it at rondefly@rtriano.
<mailto:rondefly%40rtriano.com> com<mailto:rondefly@rtriano.
<mailto:rondefly%40rtriano.com> com>.

Thanks

Ron Triano

South Lake Tahoe, CA

Sonerai flying, Q200 getting there


Re: Flight characteristics questions

MartinErni@...
 

Danny,
This is not a common problem. In fact yours is the first I have heard
of. It sounds to me like something is wrong with you sparrow strainers ( a
minor fix). But, I would not fly it until you figure it out. Where are you
located? Maybe another builder could help you trouble shot it.
Earnest
Triq200 960 hours


Re: Headset

Ron Triano <rondefly@...>
 

Barry, what is the model # of the headset?



Ron Triano

South Lake Tahoe, CA



Sonerai there and Q200 gettin there

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
BARRY AMANDA STEARNS
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 8:40 PM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Headset



No they do not have a cell phone plug but Sporty's sells an adapter that
will interface with the cell phone and is made for "aircraft" use.

Barry
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com>
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
com<mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 7:54 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Headset

Barry, thanks for the reply, do they have a cell phone plug-in?

Ron Triano

South Lake Tahoe, CA

Sonerai there and Q200 gettin there

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Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Headset

I have a noise cancelling telex headset powered by batteries for $250.00
plus shipping....New....that is I have wore them twice for a length of 1
hour total and bought them from a display case where they sat for a few
years....they lowered the price and I nabbed them. I was given a set of bose
headsets so don't need these anymore. Retail was around $475 for these I
believe.

Barry
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Subject: [Q-LIST] Headset

Does anyone have a headset they would like to part with? I need a better set
that will cut out some of the noise from the prop and engine. Not quite
ready to part with 600 + for a real nice set yet. Let me know what you have
and how much you need to get for it at rondefly@rtriano.
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Thanks

Ron Triano

South Lake Tahoe, CA

Sonerai flying, Q200 getting there


Re: Headset

Ron Triano <rondefly@...>
 

Thanks Phil for the offer, from everything I hear about the lightspeed type
that probably is the way I will go however what is a Marv Golden one?



Ron Triano

South Lake Tahoe, CA



Sonerai there and Q200 gettin there

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Ron:

If you like, I could lend you a Marv Golden Logo'd version of the Lightspeed

QFR Cross Country C. It has a cell phone interface and is a pretty nice
unit. Or a 30 3 G Lightspeed (also with cell phone interface). You can get
an
idea about what some of the Lightspeed products are all about. I trust you.

Cheers,

Phil


Re: Headset

Phil Lankford
 

Hello Ron:

The Headset has Marv Golden's company logo on the earpieces, but is the
identical unit manufactured and sold by Lightspeed.

_http://www.lightspeedaviation.com/productsqfrx2.asp_
(http://www.lightspeedaviation.com/productsqfrx2.asp)

_http://www.marvgolden.com/_ (http://www.marvgolden.com/)

Cheers,

Phil