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Re: Q2 Pilot Manual / Performance numbers wanted

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

No Q-200 POH to my knowledge.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Harris
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 3:35 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: Q2 Pilot Manual / Performance numbers wanted


Doug

Is there a Q-200 POH also?

Peter

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From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Doug Humble
Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 12:45 AM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Q2 Pilot Manual / Performance numbers wanted

I just downloaded the pdf from John's site and I'll put it out at the QBA
site soon. Good to have it in a couple of places anyway.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Hole
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:49 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Q2 Pilot Manual / Performance numbers wanted

You will find the Q2 pilot manual link on this page:

http://www.finleywe
<http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff/QuickieQ2Docs/tabid/58/Default.aspx>
b.net/JonsStuff/QuickieQ2Docs/tabid/58/Default.aspx

I also have this manual in a WORD document which could be posted on the
QBA site.

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com, "re5ande1"
<ckcoleman@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a source for an online version of the Q2 pilot
> manual? Among other things, I'd like to find out what the takeoff
and
> landing distances are for a Revmaster powered Q2 (64HP), GU airfoil,
> max gross wt (1000 lbs) over a 50 ft obstacle. If you know the
source
> of the manual, or know these numbers I'd appreciate a reply. Thanks
>
> re5ande1
>


Re: No More Sun Bumps ( or finding the neutral zone )

Allan Farr <afarr@...>
 

Hi. It's funny how these subjects come up. I was picking at some cracked paint on the coaming of my a/c last night and it just started flaking off right down to the fibreglass. I am carefully using a blunt chisel and it's easily coming off. Hope it's not all like that.
Allan F

----- Original Message -----
From: viggenbuilder2
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 09:11
Subject: [Q-LIST] No More Sun Bumps ( or finding the neutral zone )


Hi All,
I had dealt with all the bumps that had been there on the tail cone
before Xmas, so after the cold spell began to lift back in mid Jan, I
looked to get things ready to start priming.
I started sanding back, and noticed some more bumps had appeared. So I
picked at these and bingo, before I knew it I had stripped about 2 sq
feet of paint without any adhesion at all.
So with Mike D's advice ringing in my head, I decided enough was enough
and set to work to strip it all off the tail cone. This is now done,
and I have started to refill with epoxy filler and things are at last
seemingly better. At least I can now see the substrate and know that
the filler will be good.
Now the interesting part is that all the paint seemed to strip from a
neutral zone (To pinch a term from Star Trek), which as it came off in
sheets or strips, the paint was black on the back, but the black layer
was still on the surface it had come off of. So the black layer had
separated causing the lack of adherance. Looking at the paint strips,
the black on the back was firmly adhered to the paint. The black layer
on the tail cone was also firmly attached. So it was the black layer
that had "split"! Has anybody else had this happen ? Is this relate to
damp conditions?
This has caused me to wonder what to do with regard to the refinishing.
I am using epoxy primer, and two pack poly top coat, which is an
effective UV barrier, so do I need to reapply the black layer with the
possible further problem of lack of adhesion ? Do you guys still use
the black UV layer, or have you all moved on from it now ?

Richard Thomson
Tri Q G-BMFN 368 hours old.
richard@cloudland.co.uk


Re: Sam H's Sparrow Strainers

Joseph M Snow <1flashq@...>
 

Richard,
I have my sparrow strainers mounted just behind the middle hinge support of the elevator, as indicated on plans. I asked the same question this fall, because I noticed most Q2/200 have the strainers mounted close to the fuselage. I was told that the "close to fuselage position" takes advantage of prop wash.

Joseph

viggenbuilder2 <richard@cloudland.co.uk> wrote:
Sam H,
Was I dreaming, or are your sparrow strainers fairly close to the root
end. Mine are in the middle, so what is the thinking behind it ? Does
it matter where they are ?

Richard Thomson
TriQ G-BMFN 368hrs old
richard@cloudland.co.uk


Re: No More Sun Bumps ( or finding the neutral zone )

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

You need the UV barrier, remember Gore says the Ozone is gone and you don't want your plane melting in the hot sun. Also the paint that peeled off mine was also black on the bottom. I don't think it was so much that the black split. I think it's the out-gassing of the fiberglass that pops the paint off and the black tries to stick to everything... I left an unprotected piece of fiberglass in the sun and after a year the resin was gone leaving only the raw glass. Seems the resin sublimates (solid to gas) in the sun?
Mike N3QP

viggenbuilder2 wrote:

Hi All,
I had dealt with all the bumps that had been there on the tail cone before Xmas, so after the cold spell began to lift back in mid Jan, I looked to get things ready to start priming. I started sanding back, and noticed some more bumps had appeared. So I picked at these and bingo, before I knew it I had stripped about 2 sq feet of paint without any adhesion at all. So with Mike D's advice ringing in my head, I decided enough was enough and set to work to strip it all off the tail cone. This is now done, and I have started to refill with epoxy filler and things are at last seemingly better. At least I can now see the substrate and know that the filler will be good.
Now the interesting part is that all the paint seemed to strip from a neutral zone (To pinch a term from Star Trek), which as it came off in sheets or strips, the paint was black on the back, but the black layer was still on the surface it had come off of. So the black layer had separated causing the lack of adherance. Looking at the paint strips, the black on the back was firmly adhered to the paint. The black layer on the tail cone was also firmly attached. So it was the black layer that had "split"! Has anybody else had this happen ? Is this relate to damp conditions?
This has caused me to wonder what to do with regard to the refinishing. I am using epoxy primer, and two pack poly top coat, which is an effective UV barrier, so do I need to reapply the black layer with the possible further problem of lack of adhesion ? Do you guys still use the black UV layer, or have you all moved on from it now ?

Richard Thomson
Tri Q G-BMFN 368 hours old.
richard@cloudland.co.uk




Quickie Builders Association WEB site
http://www.quickiebuilders.org

Yahoo! Groups Links






Re: Progress update

Joseph M Snow <1flashq@...>
 

Thanks for the tip. I am using PPG DP90LF two part black primer. Since it is also a UV barrier and is appropriate for PPG finish coats, I will be using it as the final primer. Hopefully, I will have fixed all defects. If some defects do show up, I will give it a try.

Perhaps your primer to primer delamination was casued by using different brands of primer or inadequate sanding prep.

Joseph

viggenbuilder2 <richard@cloudland.co.uk> wrote:
Joseph,
One tip that I saw on the Canard Aviators site from Ken Miller I
believe, was if you are using epoxy primer add some dry micro in any
pin holes or small defects as you paint. It bonds tight and is easy
to sand ready for paint. I tried a small tester and it seems to work
quite well.

Rich Thomson
TriQ G-BMFN 368 hours old
richard@cloudland.co.uk

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, Joseph M Snow <1flashq@...> wrote:

I am really sorry about not getting this link correct. Try this
one:

http://corvairq.info/Microfiller.htm

Joseph




Re: Sam H's Sparrow Strainers

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

Mine are also close to the fuselage. I did it cause thats how the factory plane was, also gives the least adverse yaw, which couldn't be much.
Mike N3QP


Sam Hoskins wrote:

Yes, mine are close to the fuselage. I don't remember why they are there,
since I installed them about 22 years ago.

Anyone else?

Sam Hoskins

Murphysboro, IL


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From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
viggenbuilder2
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 2:35 PM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Q-LIST] Sam H's Sparrow Strainers


Sam H,
Was I dreaming, or are your sparrow strainers fairly close to the root end. Mine are in the middle, so what is the thinking behind it ? Does it matter where they are ?

Richard Thomson
TriQ G-BMFN 368hrs old
richard@cloudland. <mailto:richard%40cloudland.co.uk> co.uk








Quickie Builders Association WEB site
http://www.quickiebuilders.org

Yahoo! Groups Links






Re: Q2 Pilot Manual / Performance numbers wanted

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

Doug

Is there a Q-200 POH also?

Peter



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From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Doug Humble
Sent: Monday, 26 February 2007 12:45 AM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Q2 Pilot Manual / Performance numbers wanted



I just downloaded the pdf from John's site and I'll put it out at the QBA
site soon. Good to have it in a couple of places anyway.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Hole
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:49 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Q2 Pilot Manual / Performance numbers wanted

You will find the Q2 pilot manual link on this page:

http://www.finleywe
<http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff/QuickieQ2Docs/tabid/58/Default.aspx>
b.net/JonsStuff/QuickieQ2Docs/tabid/58/Default.aspx

I also have this manual in a WORD document which could be posted on the
QBA site.

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com, "re5ande1"
<ckcoleman@...> wrote:

Does anyone know of a source for an online version of the Q2 pilot
manual? Among other things, I'd like to find out what the takeoff
and
landing distances are for a Revmaster powered Q2 (64HP), GU airfoil,
max gross wt (1000 lbs) over a 50 ft obstacle. If you know the
source
of the manual, or know these numbers I'd appreciate a reply. Thanks

re5ande1


Re: Sam H's Sparrow Strainers

Sam Hoskins <shoskins@...>
 

Yes, mine are close to the fuselage. I don't remember why they are there,
since I installed them about 22 years ago.

Anyone else?

Sam Hoskins

Murphysboro, IL



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From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
viggenbuilder2
Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2007 2:35 PM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Q-LIST] Sam H's Sparrow Strainers



Sam H,
Was I dreaming, or are your sparrow strainers fairly close to the root
end. Mine are in the middle, so what is the thinking behind it ? Does
it matter where they are ?

Richard Thomson
TriQ G-BMFN 368hrs old
richard@cloudland. <mailto:richard%40cloudland.co.uk> co.uk


Sam H's Sparrow Strainers

Richard Thomson
 

Sam H,
Was I dreaming, or are your sparrow strainers fairly close to the root
end. Mine are in the middle, so what is the thinking behind it ? Does
it matter where they are ?

Richard Thomson
TriQ G-BMFN 368hrs old
richard@cloudland.co.uk


Re: Progress update

Richard Thomson
 

Joseph,
One tip that I saw on the Canard Aviators site from Ken Miller I
believe, was if you are using epoxy primer add some dry micro in any
pin holes or small defects as you paint. It bonds tight and is easy
to sand ready for paint. I tried a small tester and it seems to work
quite well.

Rich Thomson
TriQ G-BMFN 368 hours old
richard@cloudland.co.uk







--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, Joseph M Snow <1flashq@...> wrote:

I am really sorry about not getting this link correct. Try this
one:

http://corvairq.info/Microfiller.htm

Joseph


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


No More Sun Bumps ( or finding the neutral zone )

Richard Thomson
 

Hi All,
I had dealt with all the bumps that had been there on the tail cone
before Xmas, so after the cold spell began to lift back in mid Jan, I
looked to get things ready to start priming.
I started sanding back, and noticed some more bumps had appeared. So I
picked at these and bingo, before I knew it I had stripped about 2 sq
feet of paint without any adhesion at all.
So with Mike D's advice ringing in my head, I decided enough was enough
and set to work to strip it all off the tail cone. This is now done,
and I have started to refill with epoxy filler and things are at last
seemingly better. At least I can now see the substrate and know that
the filler will be good.
Now the interesting part is that all the paint seemed to strip from a
neutral zone (To pinch a term from Star Trek), which as it came off in
sheets or strips, the paint was black on the back, but the black layer
was still on the surface it had come off of. So the black layer had
separated causing the lack of adherance. Looking at the paint strips,
the black on the back was firmly adhered to the paint. The black layer
on the tail cone was also firmly attached. So it was the black layer
that had "split"! Has anybody else had this happen ? Is this relate to
damp conditions?
This has caused me to wonder what to do with regard to the refinishing.
I am using epoxy primer, and two pack poly top coat, which is an
effective UV barrier, so do I need to reapply the black layer with the
possible further problem of lack of adhesion ? Do you guys still use
the black UV layer, or have you all moved on from it now ?

Richard Thomson
Tri Q G-BMFN 368 hours old.
richard@cloudland.co.uk


Re: Q2 Pilot Manual / Performance numbers wanted

Mike Perry <dmperry1012@...>
 

I have the Q-2 manual in a zip file, opens into a .doc file which opens
fine in WordPerfect and I suppose in Microsoft Word as well (never
tried). I also have the Quickie (Q-1) manual as a .pdf.

I am unwilling to post them on the web due to unclear copyright issues but
I will provide it directly to anyone for personal use.

contact me direct at:

dmperry1012@charter.net

if you want a copy. Charles Coleman, your copy is on its way.

Mike Perry

At 01:14 AM 2/25/2007 +0000, you wrote:

Does anyone know of a source for an online version of the Q2 pilot
manual? Among other things, I'd like to find out what the takeoff and
landing distances are for a Revmaster powered Q2 (64HP), GU airfoil,
max gross wt (1000 lbs) over a 50 ft obstacle. If you know the source
of the manual, or know these numbers I'd appreciate a reply. Thanks

re5ande1


Progress update

Joseph M Snow <1flashq@...>
 

I am really sorry about not getting this link correct. Try this one:

http://corvairq.info/Microfiller.htm

Joseph


Progress update

Joseph M Snow <1flashq@...>
 

OOps! The previous email had a misspelling in the link. Sorry about that.
Here is a link updating my progress on N240JS. It is about Microfinishing.

www.corvairq.info/Microfiller.htm


Joseph Snow


Progress update

Joseph M Snow <1flashq@...>
 

Here is a link updating my progress on N240JS. It is about Microfinishing.

www.corvairq.info/Microfiller.htm


Joseph Snow


Re: Sam H's Sparrow Strainers

MartinErni@...
 

In a message dated 2/25/2007 4:21:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
shoskins@mchsi.com writes:

Yes, mine are close to the fuselage. I don't remember why they are there,
since I installed them about 22 years ago.



The plans called for them to be at the root because that put them in the
prop blast, which made them more effective and allowed them to be smaller than
if they were outboard.

Earnest
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trip to usa

enzo fraschini <enzo.fraschini@...>
 

I do work for an italian company in the aerospace field and will be in
the US for a business trip in the next days.

I cannot claim anymore being a Q1 builder , since I never completed the
airplane. I stopped working on it almost ten years ago, with the
structure only completed.

I had went to Oshkosh acouple of times, in 1983 and later, maybe in
2000, but could never see a Q1 flying. I met a builder/pilot (do not
recall the name) in Utica, NY, and three others in Europe (Mark Johnson,
Martin Burns, and Gerhard Gugler, if I correctly remember the names).
All of them have been very helpful on different aspects, while not
enough to compensate for my lazyness. Having now discovered this group
on the net, I wonder if any of them is a member of it....and would like
to contact me: I would be pleased to know of news from them.

But the purpose of this message is to know if there may be the
opportunity to meet american builders during my visit. I will be in
Orlando, Albuquerque / Santa Fe (on Sunday, 4th), then Salt Lake City,
San Antonio, Arlington and Seattle: I will have little time (and will
travel with a colleague), but wonder if anybody with a Q1 (on a main
airport or close to it) would be available for a quick meeting.

Consider this first message as an initial investigation: advance thanks
for availability.


Re: Q2 Pilot Manual / Performance numbers wanted

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

I just downloaded the pdf from John's site and I'll put it out at the QBA site soon. Good to have it in a couple of places anyway.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Hole
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 7:49 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Q2 Pilot Manual / Performance numbers wanted


You will find the Q2 pilot manual link on this page:

http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff/QuickieQ2Docs/tabid/58/Default.aspx

I also have this manual in a WORD document which could be posted on the
QBA site.

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, "re5ande1" <ckcoleman@...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know of a source for an online version of the Q2 pilot
> manual? Among other things, I'd like to find out what the takeoff
and
> landing distances are for a Revmaster powered Q2 (64HP), GU airfoil,
> max gross wt (1000 lbs) over a 50 ft obstacle. If you know the
source
> of the manual, or know these numbers I'd appreciate a reply. Thanks
>
> re5ande1
>


Re: Q2 Pilot Manual / Performance numbers wanted

re5ande1 <ckcoleman@...>
 

Richard:

Thanks very much for the link for the Q2 manual. I believe that
Doug Humble would like to have the WORD version to post on the QBA
website.

Charles Coleman


--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Hole" <rickhole@...> wrote:

You will find the Q2 pilot manual link on this page:

http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff/QuickieQ2Docs/tabid/58/Default.asp
x

I also have this manual in a WORD document which could be posted
on the
QBA site.

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, "re5ande1" <ckcoleman@> wrote:

Does anyone know of a source for an online version of the Q2
pilot
manual? Among other things, I'd like to find out what the
takeoff
and
landing distances are for a Revmaster powered Q2 (64HP), GU
airfoil,
max gross wt (1000 lbs) over a 50 ft obstacle. If you know the
source
of the manual, or know these numbers I'd appreciate a reply.
Thanks

re5ande1


Re: Q2 Pilot Manual / Performance numbers wanted

Richard Hole <rickhole@...>
 

You will find the Q2 pilot manual link on this page:

http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff/QuickieQ2Docs/tabid/58/Default.aspx

I also have this manual in a WORD document which could be posted on the
QBA site.

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, "re5ande1" <ckcoleman@...> wrote:

Does anyone know of a source for an online version of the Q2 pilot
manual? Among other things, I'd like to find out what the takeoff
and
landing distances are for a Revmaster powered Q2 (64HP), GU airfoil,
max gross wt (1000 lbs) over a 50 ft obstacle. If you know the
source
of the manual, or know these numbers I'd appreciate a reply. Thanks

re5ande1