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Re: 4 seats silly questions?

John ten
 

Castro,

May I suggest that you get yourself a copy of x-plane and learn to
create a good simulation. It will not be perfect but it will give you
a good first cut. A very clever fellow did just this for an aircraft
called the Raptor (a dragonfly derivative) and I believe that he
managed very close alignment between the sim and the real thing. If I
am not mistaken the X prize vehicle was at least partly modeled using
X plane as well.

One Sky Dog may be able to add more information.

John


--- In Q-LIST@..., "drcastrojc" <drcastrojc@...> wrote:

Hi Group
I have the plans for a 4 seats experimental aircraft based on the Q.
I am not sure about the designs and would like to make a model test.
Is a silly idea try to make a model in a 20/1 scale using all the
measures in a 20/1 proportion?
I am trying to say, a 180 hp engine would be replaced for a 9 hp engine?
And about the weights, does it make sense to use a 20/1 exactly
proportion in all the weigths if I want to model to have a similar
performance to the future aircraft?
Sorry if the questions seems idiot but any post will be welcome.
Castro


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Re: Dusting off the cob webs

Mark A. Pearson <wlkabout@...>
 

Sam:
Full stop at PPVILLE or just a T & G? (I would think the former is very difficult).
Nice report!

Mark

----- Original Message -----
From: Sam Hoskins
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:56 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Dusting off the cob webs


All,

Just a general report... As much as I can't believe it, it has been
at least FIVE MONTHS since I last flew my Q-200; at least until today,
that is.

There have been plenty of periods when I didn't fly for that period of
time, but that was when it was broken, or I was doing something
special. But no excuses this time, it was full of gas and a zero time
oil change in the sump since last October.

Anyway, after having fits getting it started, I did commit aviation
today, and good it felt.

With no mission planned, other than burning fossil fuels, I started by
circumnavigating the local class D airspace. No reason, just thought
I would fly in a big circle for 15 minutes. Let's see C=PixD, right?
Therefore, 10 nm x 3.14 means mean it's 31.4 miles. For some reason,
in the air I calculated 17 miles.

Ok, now that that was out of the way, I flew south to Cobden &
Jonesboro flew around a couple guys farms. Didn't look like anyone
was home.

Diverted a few miles west and flew up the Mississippi. Flew by (never
use the word "buzz") a friends house in Chester, IL and she was waving
from the porch. When she called Sandy she said I gave her chills.

What the hell, make a landing at Perryville, MO. May as well get my
three in 90 days.

Then over to Pinckyville, IL for another landing, them home to Carbondale.

It was nice to be up there again. While I was burning gas I thought
about you guys, I thought about Dave and Bob and Bud and Larry and the
others who won't be attending any more fly-ins.

When I was back at the hangar I checked in with the home office, and
the CEO was relieved that everything was routine.

I am really glad I'm a pilot, and I'm really glad I buillt and fly a
Q-200.

Best Wishes,

Sam Hoskins
Murphysboro, Il


Re: 4 seats silly questions?

GeneKnapp2@...
 

Hello Castro!!!

I admire your ambition; there is nothing to quicken the spirit than an idea that comes to you. There is always the thought that this might be a new idea and worth perusing. The last thing i would want to do is quench such a spirit. Some thoughts which might help you. Some years back I studied a lot of conceptual changes to the single place Quickie (to me Quickie is single seat designed by Burt Rutan ... The Q2, Q200 and Tri versions were a whole different animal which Burt had no part in ... and only look like family members from the same Kit company QAC ot of Mojave CA) but I digress.

I have three thoughts (which, this day, i did not go back to research)
1.) The idea of a test model is a good one and has been around a long time.
Major companies have done just that to apply relationally dynamic principles to a 12" to the foot
design. From memory, I designing your scale model, make sure the shortest wing cord (in scale
of course) is not below 6". Six inches is about the shortest wing cord which still has a meaningful Reynolds number. (and remember ... 6" is border line). The canard on a Long EZ , Cozy mkIII or mkIV, Berkut
is just over 12". This would mean a model canard cord length of 6" would produce a HALF scale model.
For the Long EZ at 50% scale, that would be a span of 13' ... .12 scale Cozy mkIV ... span of 14feet.
Remember too that to get real data of dynamically similar merit, the model would need to be loaded 1/2
to 1/2 the weight of the full scale craft. ... a pretty strong model. (what a great chance to learn a
about structures and strength of materials ;-))

2.) Check with older EAA member who have kept all of there old Sport Aviation magazines. There were two or
three articles about designing model aircraft for dynamically similar concept evaluation and ... well, find the articles and a lot of your questions will be answered.

3.) Go buy, find or borrow a copy of X-Plane version 7.xx (7.30 to 7.62 are good choices ... 7.30 has Burts
Burt Rutans Whiteknight and SpaceShipOne ) to version 8.xx (latest version is 8.60). This is all
available at http://www.x-plane.com You can download the latest version as a demo (but with out the disk in your cd/DVD player, the demo goes to to mouse/keyboard control in six minutes (theres that 6 again ... humm???) ) X-Plane provides an aircraft design program that is quite good! ... not the ezest thing to do but valuable results at less money than a huge model.

So enjoy!
How about loading some picture to the yahoo Q-LIST member site for us to enjoy your progress.

Good luck

Gene
Remember. The original Q-1 was about conservation of inertia ... the Protius is at the opposite extreme ... but still a tandem wing ... food for thought.:Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: drcastrojc@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 8:16 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] 4 seats silly questions?


Hi Group
I have the plans for a 4 seats experimental aircraft based on the Q.
I am not sure about the designs and would like to make a model test.
Is a silly idea try to make a model in a 20/1 scale using all the measures in a
20/1 proportion?
I am trying to say, a 180 hp engine would be replaced for a 9 hp engine?
And about the weights, does it make sense to use a 20/1 exactly proportion in
all the weigths if I want to model to have a similar performance to the future
aircraft?
Sorry if the questions seems idiot but any post will be welcome.
Castro






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Dusting off the cob webs

Sam Hoskins
 

All,

Just a general report... As much as I can't believe it, it has been
at least FIVE MONTHS since I last flew my Q-200; at least until today,
that is.

There have been plenty of periods when I didn't fly for that period of
time, but that was when it was broken, or I was doing something
special. But no excuses this time, it was full of gas and a zero time
oil change in the sump since last October.

Anyway, after having fits getting it started, I did commit aviation
today, and good it felt.

With no mission planned, other than burning fossil fuels, I started by
circumnavigating the local class D airspace. No reason, just thought
I would fly in a big circle for 15 minutes. Let's see C=PixD, right?
Therefore, 10 nm x 3.14 means mean it's 31.4 miles. For some reason,
in the air I calculated 17 miles.

Ok, now that that was out of the way, I flew south to Cobden &
Jonesboro flew around a couple guys farms. Didn't look like anyone
was home.

Diverted a few miles west and flew up the Mississippi. Flew by (never
use the word "buzz") a friends house in Chester, IL and she was waving
from the porch. When she called Sandy she said I gave her chills.

What the hell, make a landing at Perryville, MO. May as well get my
three in 90 days.

Then over to Pinckyville, IL for another landing, them home to Carbondale.

It was nice to be up there again. While I was burning gas I thought
about you guys, I thought about Dave and Bob and Bud and Larry and the
others who won't be attending any more fly-ins.

When I was back at the hangar I checked in with the home office, and
the CEO was relieved that everything was routine.

I am really glad I'm a pilot, and I'm really glad I buillt and fly a
Q-200.

Best Wishes,

Sam Hoskins
Murphysboro, Il


Re: 4 seats silly questions?

One Sky Dog
 

In a message dated 3/25/2007 2:48:25 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
drcastrojc@... writes:

Aloha Sky Dog
I would like to send a copy of the plans online to hear your oppinion and
from all in the group that are interested in this matter.
I sent you an email with attachements but it returned.
What email I should direct it in case you decide to take a look?
Castro



Castro,

I am sorry but I will not be of much value to your project. I am not
qualified to make aero or structural decisions.

I am also very short on time trying to get my airplane fixed. I wish you the
best on your project.


Regards,

One Sky Dog

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Re: 4 seats silly questions?

drcastrojc <drcastrojc@...>
 

Aloha Sky Dog
I would like to send a copy of the plans online to hear your oppinion and from all in the group that are interested in this matter.
I sent you an email with attachements but it returned.
What email I should direct it in case you decide to take a look?
Castro

In a message dated 3/24/2007 8:16:38 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
drcastrojc@... writes:

Hi Group
I have the plans for a 4 seats experimental aircraft based on the Q.
I am not sure about the designs and would like to make a model test.
Is a silly idea try to make a model in a 20/1 scale using all the measures
in a 20/1 proportion?
I am trying to say, a 180 hp engine would be replaced for a 9 hp engine?
And about the weights, does it make sense to use a 20/1 exactly proportion
in all the weigths if I want to model to have a similar performance to the
future aircraft?
Sorry if the questions seems idiot but any post will be welcome.
Castro

Castro,

If you want anything close 1/5th scale would be minimum. Weight is a cubic
function so you will have to make the model heavier than it will build. To be
representative the weight will need to be distributed out in the wings. You
will be challenged by the extreme cg shift with passengers in or out.

Good luck.

One Sky Dog

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Re: 4 seats silly questions?

drcastrojc <drcastrojc@...>
 

Is there a way we can share images, so everyone can take a look on the plans sharing experiences and oppinions?
Maybe I can send it off group if it does not accept images or files.

You
will be challenged by the extreme cg shift with passengers in or out.
You would also have to make the fuse much deeper to accommodate
passengers under the wing. Placing the wing aft of all passengers
would really complicate your cg. I do not think that the Q is a good
choice for a 4 passenger plane unless the back 2 seats are for
legless children.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: 4 seats silly questions?

Larry Severson
 

You
will be challenged by the extreme cg shift with passengers in or out.
You would also have to make the fuse much deeper to accommodate passengers under the wing. Placing the wing aft of all passengers would really complicate your cg. I do not think that the Q is a good choice for a 4 passenger plane unless the back 2 seats are for legless children.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: 4 pax @QAC

JMasal@...
 

When I visited QAC before it closed I saw a 4 pax mockup back in a corner.
The rear 2 seats were back to back with the front two.

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4 seats silly questions?

drcastrojc <drcastrojc@...>
 

Hi Group
I have the plans for a 4 seats experimental aircraft based on the Q.
I am not sure about the designs and would like to make a model test.
Is a silly idea try to make a model in a 20/1 scale using all the measures in a 20/1 proportion?
I am trying to say, a 180 hp engine would be replaced for a 9 hp engine?
And about the weights, does it make sense to use a 20/1 exactly proportion in all the weigths if I want to model to have a similar performance to the future aircraft?
Sorry if the questions seems idiot but any post will be welcome.
Castro


Re: Challenging Flight Report

raoborg@...
 

Hi Mike. You went right by me in Dunnellon,I have not made all the progress that I would like on the airplane but I am moving along with the engine. I will make sure I have a good carburetor heat available, some experience ah? We had an FAA seminar in Chrystal River this morning and that's were I went, forgot about Williston. See you. Raoul

--- mdwyer@... wrote:

From: Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
To: "Q-LIST@..." <Q-LIST@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Challenging Flight Report
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 17:44:19 -0500

Hey Guys,
There was a weekend flyin at Williston airport in central Florida
today. A small uncontrolled airport and a little home town kinda flyin
so the wife Liz and I decided to fly up there for the day. It was about
80F, the clouds were scattered and the bases were about 4000'.
Beautiful blue sky day and about a 45 minute flight up. We got to the
airport there and did the obligatory fly by, pulled the power back and
got onto upwind, crosswind, base, pulled the carb heat and the engine
quit. Darn, first time in over 1000 hours that has happened. So now
I'm high on final with a 6000' runway right in front of me. You can't
ask for much better than that. The prop is still windmilling and
pumping the throttle makes (every third pump) a little surge of power
but not enough to fly. I announce on the unicom that I'm dead stick
declaring an emergency. I notice the airspeed is almost getting too slow
so I nose her down a bit. Flare perfect, squeeker and I'm down. The
prop stops and I roll a few thousand feet and turn off the runway, real
quietly. Great way to arrive at an airshow, but I don't think anyone
even noticed!

After sitting about 5 min I decide to fire up the engine. Starts
beautifully, runs great. ???. Fuel is fine, no electrical issues, runs
on the electric ign and mag. Had no time to check mags on the short
final! Another friend in a Velocity arrived just behind us so we were
discussing what happened and decided Carb Icing. Now I've been
operating this way for 20 years but... I did recently put on some new 4
into 4 exhaust pipes. The old 4:1 had 2 pipes wrapped around the carb
in the front and I'll bet those darn things were keeping my carb hot. I
also realized that I'd put carb heat on *after* the power reduction. So
the pipes are somewhat cold - no heat.

We did the airshow thing, had lunch and decided to head home.

I put my wife in the Velocity for the ride home and fired up the Q200.
Started great, run up great, taxied out and took off, great power. Went
to 4000' and orbited while the Velocity got off. Then we flew together
back to PIE. This time I asked for a close in left downwind for 9
instead of the long straight in approaches they are famous for. As I
got near the 8500' long runway at 180 mph I pulled the carb heat first!
Got that carb real hot, darn it. Then did the 3 mile final as other
planes were landing and I got stretched out anyway. Bottom line, flew
home fine. 99.99 % sure it was carb heat. Good thing I practice engine
out landings every so often.

New operating procedure, use liberal carb heat, pull it on when still at
high power. Get a carb air temp sensor.

Mike Q200 N3QP





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Re: 4 seats silly questions?

One Sky Dog
 

In a message dated 3/24/2007 8:16:38 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
drcastrojc@... writes:

Hi Group
I have the plans for a 4 seats experimental aircraft based on the Q.
I am not sure about the designs and would like to make a model test.
Is a silly idea try to make a model in a 20/1 scale using all the measures
in a 20/1 proportion?
I am trying to say, a 180 hp engine would be replaced for a 9 hp engine?
And about the weights, does it make sense to use a 20/1 exactly proportion
in all the weigths if I want to model to have a similar performance to the
future aircraft?
Sorry if the questions seems idiot but any post will be welcome.
Castro




Castro,

If you want anything close 1/5th scale would be minimum. Weight is a cubic
function so you will have to make the model heavier than it will build. To be
representative the weight will need to be distributed out in the wings. You
will be challenged by the extreme cg shift with passengers in or out.

Good luck.

One Sky Dog



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Challenging Flight Report

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

Hey Guys,
There was a weekend flyin at Williston airport in central Florida today. A small uncontrolled airport and a little home town kinda flyin so the wife Liz and I decided to fly up there for the day. It was about 80F, the clouds were scattered and the bases were about 4000'. Beautiful blue sky day and about a 45 minute flight up. We got to the airport there and did the obligatory fly by, pulled the power back and got onto upwind, crosswind, base, pulled the carb heat and the engine quit. Darn, first time in over 1000 hours that has happened. So now I'm high on final with a 6000' runway right in front of me. You can't ask for much better than that. The prop is still windmilling and pumping the throttle makes (every third pump) a little surge of power but not enough to fly. I announce on the unicom that I'm dead stick declaring an emergency. I notice the airspeed is almost getting too slow so I nose her down a bit. Flare perfect, squeeker and I'm down. The prop stops and I roll a few thousand feet and turn off the runway, real quietly. Great way to arrive at an airshow, but I don't think anyone even noticed!

After sitting about 5 min I decide to fire up the engine. Starts beautifully, runs great. ???. Fuel is fine, no electrical issues, runs on the electric ign and mag. Had no time to check mags on the short final! Another friend in a Velocity arrived just behind us so we were discussing what happened and decided Carb Icing. Now I've been operating this way for 20 years but... I did recently put on some new 4 into 4 exhaust pipes. The old 4:1 had 2 pipes wrapped around the carb in the front and I'll bet those darn things were keeping my carb hot. I also realized that I'd put carb heat on *after* the power reduction. So the pipes are somewhat cold - no heat.

We did the airshow thing, had lunch and decided to head home.

I put my wife in the Velocity for the ride home and fired up the Q200. Started great, run up great, taxied out and took off, great power. Went to 4000' and orbited while the Velocity got off. Then we flew together back to PIE. This time I asked for a close in left downwind for 9 instead of the long straight in approaches they are famous for. As I got near the 8500' long runway at 180 mph I pulled the carb heat first! Got that carb real hot, darn it. Then did the 3 mile final as other planes were landing and I got stretched out anyway. Bottom line, flew home fine. 99.99 % sure it was carb heat. Good thing I practice engine out landings every so often.

New operating procedure, use liberal carb heat, pull it on when still at high power. Get a carb air temp sensor.

Mike Q200 N3QP


Re: Challenging Flight Report

chris rayner <chris-rayner@...>
 

Hi, Mike, that's very useful information - thanks. For just the same reasons you said, I have already ordered a carb temp sensor and gauge. I did this after reading an article in UK by Barry Smith of Acrosport. I'm thinking it could be £100 well spent. When it arrives, just need to remember that it's no good till it's fitted. Probably a good reason why the small Continentals are known as "icemakers"!
Chris Rayner - still working through the first 5 hours - slow in the winter.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Dwyer
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 10:44 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Challenging Flight Report


Hey Guys,
There was a weekend flyin at Williston airport in central Florida
today. A small uncontrolled airport and a little home town kinda flyin
so the wife Liz and I decided to fly up there for the day. It was about
80F, the clouds were scattered and the bases were about 4000'.
Beautiful blue sky day and about a 45 minute flight up. We got to the
airport there and did the obligatory fly by, pulled the power back and
got onto upwind, crosswind, base, pulled the carb heat and the engine
quit. Darn, first time in over 1000 hours that has happened. So now
I'm high on final with a 6000' runway right in front of me. You can't
ask for much better than that. The prop is still windmilling and
pumping the throttle makes (every third pump) a little surge of power
but not enough to fly. I announce on the unicom that I'm dead stick
declaring an emergency. I notice the airspeed is almost getting too slow
so I nose her down a bit. Flare perfect, squeeker and I'm down. The
prop stops and I roll a few thousand feet and turn off the runway, real
quietly. Great way to arrive at an airshow, but I don't think anyone
even noticed!

After sitting about 5 min I decide to fire up the engine. Starts
beautifully, runs great. ???. Fuel is fine, no electrical issues, runs
on the electric ign and mag. Had no time to check mags on the short
final! Another friend in a Velocity arrived just behind us so we were
discussing what happened and decided Carb Icing. Now I've been
operating this way for 20 years but... I did recently put on some new 4
into 4 exhaust pipes. The old 4:1 had 2 pipes wrapped around the carb
in the front and I'll bet those darn things were keeping my carb hot. I
also realized that I'd put carb heat on *after* the power reduction. So
the pipes are somewhat cold - no heat.

We did the airshow thing, had lunch and decided to head home.

I put my wife in the Velocity for the ride home and fired up the Q200.
Started great, run up great, taxied out and took off, great power. Went
to 4000' and orbited while the Velocity got off. Then we flew together
back to PIE. This time I asked for a close in left downwind for 9
instead of the long straight in approaches they are famous for. As I
got near the 8500' long runway at 180 mph I pulled the carb heat first!
Got that carb real hot, darn it. Then did the 3 mile final as other
planes were landing and I got stretched out anyway. Bottom line, flew
home fine. 99.99 % sure it was carb heat. Good thing I practice engine
out landings every so often.

New operating procedure, use liberal carb heat, pull it on when still at
high power. Get a carb air temp sensor.

Mike Q200 N3QP





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Damian Gregory

Peter Harris <peterjfharris@...>
 

In the second half of last year Damian contacted me to order spars and I
offered to give him the mandrel FOC because I had decided he had the skill
to make and offer the spars closer to the market.

In about January he emailed to apologise for his delay in taking up the
offer because of his illness.

I am very much saddened by his passing. He was a very talented guy with a
huge imagination, energy and generosity of spirit.

Peter H


Re: Damian Gregory

Patrick Panzera <panzera@...>
 

I'm so sorry... I meant for that to go to Jim directly.

Pat

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Patrick Panzera
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:17 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: Damian Gregory

<private>

For what it's worth, my Dad was in Viet Nam, exposed to agent orange and
died of cancer of the esophagus.

Pat

do. We were both Viet Nam Vets and saw a lot of action there, so in
talking to him, I knew he knew the story and had paid his dues. I
still wonder if the agent orange we were exposed to caused his
cancer?

Ron you are right! He was a good friend to you and many others. I
will miss "Batman" too.

Regards,

Jim Patillo


Quickie Builders Association WEB site
http://www.quickiebuilders.org


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Re: Damian Gregory

Patrick Panzera <panzera@...>
 

<private>

For what it's worth, my Dad was in Viet Nam, exposed to agent orange and
died of cancer of the esophagus.

Pat

do. We were both Viet Nam Vets and saw a lot of action there, so in
talking to him, I knew he knew the story and had paid his dues. I
still wonder if the agent orange we were exposed to caused his
cancer?

Ron you are right! He was a good friend to you and many others. I
will miss "Batman" too.

Regards,

Jim Patillo


Re: Damian Gregory

Jim Patillo
 

Ron,

I talked with Phil a couple days ago and was saddened to learn of
Damian's passing.

I was saddened but prefer to remember "Batman" as an interesting
character that had a good time and did what he wanted. When I first
met Damian I believed him to be somewhat of a kook. I thought he was
either totally full of shit or he was a very smart fellow. As it
turned out he was the latter. A couple of things I remember about him;

The first time I took him for a hot lap in my Q was at Jean last
year. As you know, Damian was a tall fella, so once we got him
stuffed into the plane and shut the lid we were on our way. From the
first 360 degree roll I could tell he was in airplane heaven. He flew
the plane around the area for awhile and began getting a grin on his
face that lasted for the next couple for days. He thanked me several
times afterward and I really appreciated that. I thought that ride
really inspired him to move forward with his project. Then he got ill
again and things slowed.

I saw him again last year at our flyin in LVK. The year before I
fried a turkey for the group and Damian made me promise to do it
again in 2006. He spent most of his afternoon eating fried turkey,
telling me how good it was and telling war stories as he was prone to
do. We were both Viet Nam Vets and saw a lot of action there, so in
talking to him, I knew he knew the story and had paid his dues. I
still wonder if the agent orange we were exposed to caused his
cancer?

Ron you are right! He was a good friend to you and many others. I
will miss "Batman" too.

Regards,

Jim Patillo





--- In Q-LIST@..., "Ron Weiss" <ronweiss4@...> wrote:

--So long Batman....I know he liked that name. I never liked Robin
but, he was taller and probably looks better in tights! Since
Damian
had his neck surgery some months back I've been laying low and
taking some time off from my Q. I logged on to this website for
the
first time in quite a while and am swamped by tradedgy! I'm real
sorry to hear about Dave. Our family is truly suffering and I wish
all will get through with plesant thoughts of our friends who have
passed and the new ones we'll have in the future. My feelings about
Damian's passing are ambivilent. I believe if he wasen't so smart,
he might still be with us. Please don't judge me on this, just hear
me out. I'm more concerned about all of us in the future! My
experience in life dictates to let the professionals do their jobs!
We're all educated in different fields so that we can help
eachother
when our expetise is needed. After Damian's neck surgery he had
trouble swallowing. He had assumed the Doctor overperferated his
throat. He learned a few 'Doctor' terms and instead of asking what
was wrong....he diagnosed himself. Upon speaking with his
physician.
The Doctor replied sarcasticly....'how many years of medical school
did you go to?' I know this because I was there!I don't know in the
end whose to blame about this communication gap? but, somebody
missed something that should have been caught.... and my friends
dead! What I loved most about Damian was his intellegence and
willingness to share it with anyone!What I hated about Damian was
his intellegence and his desperate need to prove it to everybody!
For the short time I knew him we had a love/hate relationship! I
loved the fact He helped me to construct my plane correctly and
hated being yelled at and called stupid in the process! But, most
of
all,I loved talking about airplanes with him for hours on end. For
all his insecurities, he just wanted people to appreciate his
knowledge and abilities. He did a great deal for me and I thank him
for that! After surgery I made sure he was taken care of and if he
needed something I'd try to make him comfortable. I'll Miss him and
will wish he could see my Bird take its first flight! He kept on
talking about how much time we had to get it right! I wish he was
in
a little more of a hurry....but, those who knew him could confirm
he
wasen't ever rushed! Thanks for being there Pal, I feel cheated we
lost you so young....Ron (Robin nomore). I guess I'll have to come
up with a new nickname? It just dosen't sound right without you!
- In Q-LIST@..., "Doug Humble" <hawkidoug@> wrote:

I was thinking about the "threes" just after Dave passed. I just
knew I was going to get a call or an email about another Q
accident.
In a warped way, I'm relieved that the third wasn't an accident.

I also found Damian to be an interesting fellow. I was in contact
with him when he purchased the Q2 molds and thought they had found
a
good home. I thought he had been awfully quite on the list for
quite
some time. Now I know why.

His family will be in my prayers.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Damian Gregory


They say things happen in "threes". I am sorry to here of
Domains passing. I talked to him awhile back about transporting a
Q.
He was a wealth of knowledge. With the events of the last month I
think a lot of us are looking at what are REALLY the important
things in our lives, and taking each day as a gift, because no one
really knows how many they have left. My condolences to his friends
and family.

Steve Ham

----- Original Message -----
From: britmcman@
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Damian Gregory

It is with great sorrow that I announce the passing of a fellow
Q
enthusiast, Damian Gregory. Damian passed on Friday, March 16
in
the care of his
family and had suffered from Esophageal Cancer. He was a
Vietnam
war veteran,
mechanical engineer, composites engineer, motorcycle mechanic
to
the Stars, and
a dreamer / inventor.

I first met Damian over a telephone conversation and I quickly
surmised that
he was either a great teller of stories (Liar) or one of the
most talented
people on earth. After meeting him in person and seeing some of
the fruits of
his accomplishments I chose to believe the latter. He truly was
a brilliant
mind, somewhat eccentric, and always engaging in conversation.
I
and many
others loved him as a colleague, an intellectual mentor, and a
brother.

Not everybody on this Q-List has the honor of having a nick-
name. Damian
was known as "Batman" to many of us, always accompanied at
group
events by
non-other than one of his best friends, Ron Weiss, who, through
the association
was named "Robin". I spoke with Ron this evening and he
consented to my
putting out this note to the List.

Damian was attempting to rebuild a Q-200 project with broken
canard and very
damaged engine. He and Ron went about to the California and
Nevada events
over the last few years where their combined presence was
always
known and
enjoyed. One thing lead to another and Damian and Ron ended up
making one of
those memorable cross country road trips to pick up a great
deal
on a Tri-Q for
Ron. Ron will write a book on this subject and you should be
able to buy it
at Barnes and Noble soon. It was one of those kinds of road
trips.

Damian is survived by a daughter who is now holding the great
responsibility
of settling her father's estate. Among the personal possessions
aside from
his Q-200 project are Harley Davidson motorcycles and related
articles, and
an array of machine tools, lathes, and related machine shop
items. Lastly,
Damian came into the possession of what are represented as the
Q-
2 fuselage
forms. It would be fitting if someone were interested in
preserving these molds.

I will be speaking with Damian's daughter on Monday, March 26
and I plan on
meeting her at Damian's place in Los Angeles, CA some time
later
that week.

With deepest sympathy,

Phil Lankford

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Re: Damian Gregory

Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...>
 

Saddened again to hear of yet another passing.
I met Damian at the Livermore fly in last August.
He was quite a "dude"!
Our sympathy and prayers to his family and friends.

Kevin Boddicker
Tri Q 200 N7868B 48.6 hours
Luana, IA.


Re: Damian Gregory

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Wow Ron, you were Robin!

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Weiss
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 4:04 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Damian Gregory


--So long Batman....I know he liked that name. I never liked Robin
but, he was taller and probably looks better in tights! Since Damian
had his neck surgery some months back I've been laying low and
taking some time off from my Q. I logged on to this website for the
first time in quite a while and am swamped by tradedgy! I'm real
sorry to hear about Dave. Our family is truly suffering and I wish
all will get through with plesant thoughts of our friends who have
passed and the new ones we'll have in the future. My feelings about
Damian's passing are ambivilent. I believe if he wasen't so smart,
he might still be with us. Please don't judge me on this, just hear
me out. I'm more concerned about all of us in the future! My
experience in life dictates to let the professionals do their jobs!
We're all educated in different fields so that we can help eachother
when our expetise is needed. After Damian's neck surgery he had
trouble swallowing. He had assumed the Doctor overperferated his
throat. He learned a few 'Doctor' terms and instead of asking what
was wrong....he diagnosed himself. Upon speaking with his physician.
The Doctor replied sarcasticly....'how many years of medical school
did you go to?' I know this because I was there!I don't know in the
end whose to blame about this communication gap? but, somebody
missed something that should have been caught.... and my friends
dead! What I loved most about Damian was his intellegence and
willingness to share it with anyone!What I hated about Damian was
his intellegence and his desperate need to prove it to everybody!
For the short time I knew him we had a love/hate relationship! I
loved the fact He helped me to construct my plane correctly and
hated being yelled at and called stupid in the process! But, most of
all,I loved talking about airplanes with him for hours on end. For
all his insecurities, he just wanted people to appreciate his
knowledge and abilities. He did a great deal for me and I thank him
for that! After surgery I made sure he was taken care of and if he
needed something I'd try to make him comfortable. I'll Miss him and
will wish he could see my Bird take its first flight! He kept on
talking about how much time we had to get it right! I wish he was in
a little more of a hurry....but, those who knew him could confirm he
wasen't ever rushed! Thanks for being there Pal, I feel cheated we
lost you so young....Ron (Robin nomore). I guess I'll have to come
up with a new nickname? It just dosen't sound right without you!
- In Q-LIST@..., "Doug Humble" <hawkidoug@...> wrote:
>
> I was thinking about the "threes" just after Dave passed. I just
knew I was going to get a call or an email about another Q accident.
In a warped way, I'm relieved that the third wasn't an accident.
>
> I also found Damian to be an interesting fellow. I was in contact
with him when he purchased the Q2 molds and thought they had found a
good home. I thought he had been awfully quite on the list for quite
some time. Now I know why.
>
> His family will be in my prayers.
>
> Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
> A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
> Omaha NE
> N25974
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Steve
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Damian Gregory
>
>
> They say things happen in "threes". I am sorry to here of
Domains passing. I talked to him awhile back about transporting a Q.
He was a wealth of knowledge. With the events of the last month I
think a lot of us are looking at what are REALLY the important
things in our lives, and taking each day as a gift, because no one
really knows how many they have left. My condolences to his friends
and family.
>
> Steve Ham
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: britmcman@...
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Damian Gregory
>
> It is with great sorrow that I announce the passing of a fellow
Q
> enthusiast, Damian Gregory. Damian passed on Friday, March 16 in
the care of his
> family and had suffered from Esophageal Cancer. He was a Vietnam
war veteran,
> mechanical engineer, composites engineer, motorcycle mechanic to
the Stars, and
> a dreamer / inventor.
>
> I first met Damian over a telephone conversation and I quickly
surmised that
> he was either a great teller of stories (Liar) or one of the
most talented
> people on earth. After meeting him in person and seeing some of
the fruits of
> his accomplishments I chose to believe the latter. He truly was
a brilliant
> mind, somewhat eccentric, and always engaging in conversation. I
and many
> others loved him as a colleague, an intellectual mentor, and a
brother.
>
> Not everybody on this Q-List has the honor of having a nick-
name. Damian
> was known as "Batman" to many of us, always accompanied at group
events by
> non-other than one of his best friends, Ron Weiss, who, through
the association
> was named "Robin". I spoke with Ron this evening and he
consented to my
> putting out this note to the List.
>
> Damian was attempting to rebuild a Q-200 project with broken
canard and very
> damaged engine. He and Ron went about to the California and
Nevada events
> over the last few years where their combined presence was always
known and
> enjoyed. One thing lead to another and Damian and Ron ended up
making one of
> those memorable cross country road trips to pick up a great deal
on a Tri-Q for
> Ron. Ron will write a book on this subject and you should be
able to buy it
> at Barnes and Noble soon. It was one of those kinds of road
trips.
>
> Damian is survived by a daughter who is now holding the great
responsibility
> of settling her father's estate. Among the personal possessions
aside from
> his Q-200 project are Harley Davidson motorcycles and related
articles, and
> an array of machine tools, lathes, and related machine shop
items. Lastly,
> Damian came into the possession of what are represented as the Q-
2 fuselage
> forms. It would be fitting if someone were interested in
preserving these molds.
>
> I will be speaking with Damian's daughter on Monday, March 26
and I plan on
> meeting her at Damian's place in Los Angeles, CA some time later
that week.
>
> With deepest sympathy,
>
> Phil Lankford
>
> ************************************** AOL now offers free email
to everyone.
> Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.
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