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Re: Ron's Red Leading edge

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Hey Ron, do you have one of those "temp guns". The kind you point and get the temp of what you're pointing at? I think Harbor Freight sells them cheep these days. If so, give us a report on the surface temp. between the red & the white on a hot day. If this paint does what you say it does, we need to spread the word.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Weiss
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:53 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Ron's Red Leading edge


-Mike, Again, I appreciate your concern. Believe me, saftey is my main
concern. The paint I chose to use on my plane is Linear Polyurathaine.
The quality I like best is it's ability to stay cool in hot tempatures.
The red paint on the plane is cool to the touch in 100 degree weather.
When in Livermore last yeat there were a row of Q's lined up. All were
white, however the one's with LPU paint were cool to the touch, and
that was a very hot day. My planes been outside on many occasion and
the red is ALWAYS cool to the touch. My Q has many unique qualities to
it. It's a real eye-catcher. It has been checked and approved by
qualified engineers. I'm more concerned about saftey than anything.
These are legitimate concerns being brought up. But, fear not
gentleman. Nothing on my plane will be there if it's unsafe! Again, I
appreciate your concern Mike. I hope my explanation has put you at
ease....Ron-- In Q-LIST@..., Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...> wrote:
>
> The red paint on Ron's wings bothers me from a temperature
standpoint.
> The underlying foam turns to jelly at about 180F if I remember
> correctly... I'd want to measure the temperature rise on those red
> leading edges and see how much margin there is. Personally I don't
want
> to sacrifice any strength for looks. I don't think the main wing has
> all that much margin... Hit a bird on a hot day and lose a wing?
PS,
> my white wing doesn't seem to get any hotter than ambient air temp
when
> sitting in the hot Florida sun but I've never actually measured it,
just
> touched it.
> Fly Safe,
> Mike Q200 N3QP
>


Re: Ron's Red Leading edge

LJFrench <LJFrench@...>
 

Doug and Mike,
Good comments on what you have read and understood regarding the darker paints on composites. Some things about paint color and composites just haven't changed over time. At Oshkosh I made special note to observe various paint colors on composites. I also stopped at the Velocity booth as well. It seems that color graphics on the side of the aircraft, minor striping on wing tops, or light colors (yellows / blues) are still the recommended approach to adding color to these aircraft. Last year a group of us at the Tandem Wing Fly In walked around to several aircraft and compared the temperates of wings based on different colors. There is a definite temperature amplification that happens the darker the paint gets - which only makes sense (science !!). I don't want any of our listers to read this discussion and decide it is OK to go out and paint their aircraft red or any other dark color without doing some careful investigation, design changes or derating. I could not find any information on LPU paint that allows it to defy conventional wisdom, but maybe Ron can provide contact names of those whom we can follow up with to investiage this to our satisfaction.

Lynn French

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Weiss" <ronweiss4@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:53 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Ron's Red Leading edge


-Mike, Again, I appreciate your concern. Believe me, saftey is my main
concern. The paint I chose to use on my plane is Linear Polyurathaine.
The quality I like best is it's ability to stay cool in hot tempatures.
The red paint on the plane is cool to the touch in 100 degree weather.
When in Livermore last yeat there were a row of Q's lined up. All were
white, however the one's with LPU paint were cool to the touch, and
that was a very hot day. My planes been outside on many occasion and
the red is ALWAYS cool to the touch. My Q has many unique qualities to
it. It's a real eye-catcher. It has been checked and approved by
qualified engineers. I'm more concerned about saftey than anything.
These are legitimate concerns being brought up. But, fear not
gentleman. Nothing on my plane will be there if it's unsafe! Again, I
appreciate your concern Mike. I hope my explanation has put you at
ease....Ron-- In Q-LIST@..., Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...> wrote:

The red paint on Ron's wings bothers me from a temperature
standpoint.
The underlying foam turns to jelly at about 180F if I remember
correctly... I'd want to measure the temperature rise on those red
leading edges and see how much margin there is. Personally I don't
want
to sacrifice any strength for looks. I don't think the main wing has
all that much margin... Hit a bird on a hot day and lose a wing?
PS,
my white wing doesn't seem to get any hotter than ambient air temp
when
sitting in the hot Florida sun but I've never actually measured it,
just
touched it.
Fly Safe,
Mike Q200 N3QP


Re: A modelers request

robert.blaschke <robert.blaschke@...>
 

Sorry for bad link. This could work better:
http://mujweb.cz/www/blaschke/era/e421.jpg
Robert


--- In Q-LIST@..., "robert.blaschke" <robert.blaschke@...>
wrote:

Hallo, I´d like to scratchbuild a plastic 1/48 scale model of Q1 with
that engine and engine cover, that was in the first quickie (Onan?).
Just like this one:
http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/groups/g_9214420/1cec/__sr_/e421.jpg?grw1gIHBhrM3tcHv

I would like to collest reference pictures of one of existing flying
Q1 as my master. So I would like to have pictures of certain Quickie I
will build. I´d like to build it with opened canopy and maybe also
opened engine cover. Exactly now I don´t know, in what colors model
will be.

My request is if somebody could offer me his (or not his) Quickie as a
masterpiece for my model - by pictures of overal look and inner
details as cockpit, dashboard, control elements in cockpit, engine,
tailwheel etc.

If yes, you can sent me pictures also on my e-mail
robert.blaschke@...

Thanks in advance

Robert


A modelers request

robert.blaschke <robert.blaschke@...>
 

Hallo, I´d like to scratchbuild a plastic 1/48 scale model of Q1 with
that engine and engine cover, that was in the first quickie (Onan?).
Just like this one:
http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/groups/g_9214420/1cec/__sr_/e421.jpg?grw1gIHBhrM3tcHv

I would like to collest reference pictures of one of existing flying
Q1 as my master. So I would like to have pictures of certain Quickie I
will build. I´d like to build it with opened canopy and maybe also
opened engine cover. Exactly now I don´t know, in what colors model
will be.

My request is if somebody could offer me his (or not his) Quickie as a
masterpiece for my model - by pictures of overal look and inner
details as cockpit, dashboard, control elements in cockpit, engine,
tailwheel etc.

If yes, you can sent me pictures also on my e-mail
robert.blaschke@...

Thanks in advance

Robert


Re: Ron's Red Leading edge

Ron Weiss <ronweiss4@...>
 

-Mike, Again, I appreciate your concern. Believe me, saftey is my main
concern. The paint I chose to use on my plane is Linear Polyurathaine.
The quality I like best is it's ability to stay cool in hot tempatures.
The red paint on the plane is cool to the touch in 100 degree weather.
When in Livermore last yeat there were a row of Q's lined up. All were
white, however the one's with LPU paint were cool to the touch, and
that was a very hot day. My planes been outside on many occasion and
the red is ALWAYS cool to the touch. My Q has many unique qualities to
it. It's a real eye-catcher. It has been checked and approved by
qualified engineers. I'm more concerned about saftey than anything.
These are legitimate concerns being brought up. But, fear not
gentleman. Nothing on my plane will be there if it's unsafe! Again, I
appreciate your concern Mike. I hope my explanation has put you at
ease....Ron-- In Q-LIST@..., Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...> wrote:

The red paint on Ron's wings bothers me from a temperature
standpoint.
The underlying foam turns to jelly at about 180F if I remember
correctly... I'd want to measure the temperature rise on those red
leading edges and see how much margin there is. Personally I don't
want
to sacrifice any strength for looks. I don't think the main wing has
all that much margin... Hit a bird on a hot day and lose a wing?
PS,
my white wing doesn't seem to get any hotter than ambient air temp
when
sitting in the hot Florida sun but I've never actually measured it,
just
touched it.
Fly Safe,
Mike Q200 N3QP


Ron's Red Leading edge

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

The red paint on Ron's wings bothers me from a temperature standpoint. The underlying foam turns to jelly at about 180F if I remember correctly... I'd want to measure the temperature rise on those red leading edges and see how much margin there is. Personally I don't want to sacrifice any strength for looks. I don't think the main wing has all that much margin... Hit a bird on a hot day and lose a wing? PS, my white wing doesn't seem to get any hotter than ambient air temp when sitting in the hot Florida sun but I've never actually measured it, just touched it.
Fly Safe,
Mike Q200 N3QP


Re: Takeoff/Landing Video

kleirfall@...
 

Is the Q2 at all squirrelly? Do you fight it on landings?

----- Forwarded message from Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...> -----
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2007 08:39:44 -0500
From: Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
Reply-To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Takeoff/Landing Video
To: Q-LIST@...

Great analogy Steve! I sweat just looking at the video. Anyone complaining
about the handling qualities of this airplane can be sent to Jon's video.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Takeoff/Landing Video


Jon,

Is that your driveway with a centerline. It can't be much narrower????

Great video..
Steve Ham

----- Original Message -----
From: jon@...
To: q-list@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Takeoff/Landing Video

... and another video. This one is a takeoff and landing filmed from the
approach end of the runway.

The last entry (currently) on my Video page:

[http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff/Videos/tabid/186/Default.aspx]
http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff/Videos/tabid/186/Default.aspx

Or directly:

[http://68.178.49.203/jon/314JF-TakeoffAndLandingE98-2007Oct24.wmv]
http://68.178.49.203/jon/314JF-TakeoffAndLandingE98-2007Oct24.wmv

Jon












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Re: Water Cooling Ducts

Jon Finley <jon@...>
 

Hi Ron,

That's looks VERY nice! When you get time, I'll take a set please! ;-)

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On Behalf Of
Ron Weiss
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 11:29 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Water Cooling Ducts


--If you go to Photos, you'll see the begining of this project. I'll
keep adding photos as our progess moves along. ...Ron- In Q-
LIST@..., "Ron Weiss" <ronweiss4@...> wrote:

Hey Guy's, If anyoneone is interested in a P-38 style cooling
system
with the ducts on the rear tailcone, I have the molds made and
ready to
make parts! I've spent the better part of 4 months working on the
plugs. The system requires 2 older Ford air conditioning cores and
fits
between the mounting brackets and the rear bulkhead. It was
designed by
a mechanical engineer who is working with me. We'll be testing the
system soon to see how well it works. Jon Finley's design is very
nice
for a P-51 style, however my exaust pipes come out the bottom. So a
side intake system seemed more reasonable. If your engine requires
water cooling, this is one more option you may want to consider.
I'm
not interested in making money, so if this an option for you, I'll
keep
posting my results and let you know how the testing is going! This
system works well for me. The EJ 22 is a heavy engine and the
weight in
the back of the plane helps to elieviate this problem. This is
truuuuly
experimental ground were on kiddies. Fun, Huh? Ron
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Re: Takeoff/Landing Video

Jon Finley <jon@...>
 

LOL! No a couple feet narrow and I would have to think about a Mono-Q.

I'm ready to have a fly-in here anytime. Maybe in the early spring to get
the flying juices flowing for everyone.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]On Behalf Of
Steve
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:28 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Takeoff/Landing Video


Jon,

Is that your driveway with a centerline. It can't be much narrower????


Great video..
Steve Ham

----- Original Message -----
From: jon@...
To: q-list@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Takeoff/Landing Video



... and another video. This one is a takeoff and landing filmed from the
approach end of the runway.

The last entry (currently) on my Video page:

[http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff/Videos/tabid/186/Default.aspx]
http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff/Videos/tabid/186/Default.aspx

Or directly:

[http://68.178.49.203/jon/314JF-TakeoffAndLandingE98-2007Oct24.wmv]
http://68.178.49.203/jon/314JF-TakeoffAndLandingE98-2007Oct24.wmv

Jon











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Re: Water Cooling Ducts

Ron Weiss <ronweiss4@...>
 

--Doug, I have the LS1 Canard and even though I have the go-ahead, I
still plan on doing wind testing and other precautionary tests before
fying. Again, thanks for your concern. My plane is a real eye-catcher
and I'm sorry I let some of the cat out of the bag too quickly. I
love this design and plan on getting a lot of positive attention
which will benefit the Quickie community greatly....Ron- In Q-
LIST@..., "Doug Humble" <hawkidoug@...> wrote:

I think blending is the key here. I think it is the ridge of the
paint edge that is the problem maker.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Weiss
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Water Cooling Ducts


-Doug, I discussed this with a aeronautical engineer who saw my
plane, He said it was smooth enough and would be fine. I
appreciate
your concern, but, I've already done the research on this. I
blended
the stripe into the paint....Ron-- In Q-
LIST@..., "Doug
Humble" <hawkidoug@> wrote:
>
> Ron, in the photo that shows your engine, it looks like there
is a
red stripe with white stars painted a long the leading edge of
your
canard. Is this correct?
>
> If so, I ask the group, isn't this a no, no for our
airplanes???
Didn't someone do something similar and have bad flying
qualities, or
do I need to drink more of my coffee this AM?? Hope I'm wrong,
but I
don't want Ron falling out of the sky.
>
> Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
> A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
> Omaha NE
> N25974
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Weiss
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:29 AM
> Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Water Cooling Ducts
>
>
> --If you go to Photos, you'll see the begining of this project.
I'll
> keep adding photos as our progess moves along. ...Ron- In Q-
> LIST@..., "Ron Weiss" <ronweiss4@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Guy's, If anyoneone is interested in a P-38 style cooling
> system
> > with the ducts on the rear tailcone, I have the molds made
and
> ready to
> > make parts! I've spent the better part of 4 months working on
the
> > plugs. The system requires 2 older Ford air conditioning
cores
and
> fits
> > between the mounting brackets and the rear bulkhead. It was
> designed by
> > a mechanical engineer who is working with me. We'll be
testing
the
> > system soon to see how well it works. Jon Finley's design is
very
> nice
> > for a P-51 style, however my exaust pipes come out the
bottom.
So a
> > side intake system seemed more reasonable. If your engine
requires
> > water cooling, this is one more option you may want to
consider.
> I'm
> > not interested in making money, so if this an option for you,
I'll
> keep
> > posting my results and let you know how the testing is going!
This
> > system works well for me. The EJ 22 is a heavy engine and the
> weight in
> > the back of the plane helps to elieviate this problem. This
is
> truuuuly
> > experimental ground were on kiddies. Fun, Huh? Ron
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>







Tri-Q flight report-25 hours and counting

kr2flyer1986
 

Just to let all know the testing is going good. Were at 25 hours now and below are a few numbers for those who like to know.

pitch buck-68 MPH
Take off -80 MPH
Cruise-2400rpm-145
Top speed 2600rpm-155
As always thanks to all from the list.
Fly safe
Bob Clark
Tri-Q200
Ankeny ,Iowa

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Re: Water Cooling Ducts

Larry Severson
 

At 06:08 AM 10/25/2007, you wrote:

As I remember it was the GU that was particularly unforgiving with surface irregularities such as paint stripes on the leading edge.
One builder couldn't even get airborne after painting a stripe along his LE.
That was a GU canard. The paint trim (1 layer) was enough to disrupt the laminar flow. I believe that Ron has a LS1, so the results MAY not be the same. The LS1 is a marginal laminar flow airfoil which will reduce the impact. However, if the nose is tough to lift on T/O, don't.


Larry Severson
Fountain Valley, CA 92708
(714) 968-9852
larry2@...


Re: Water Cooling Ducts

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

I think blending is the key here. I think it is the ridge of the paint edge that is the problem maker.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Weiss
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:56 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Water Cooling Ducts


-Doug, I discussed this with a aeronautical engineer who saw my
plane, He said it was smooth enough and would be fine. I appreciate
your concern, but, I've already done the research on this. I blended
the stripe into the paint....Ron-- In Q-LIST@..., "Doug
Humble" <hawkidoug@...> wrote:
>
> Ron, in the photo that shows your engine, it looks like there is a
red stripe with white stars painted a long the leading edge of your
canard. Is this correct?
>
> If so, I ask the group, isn't this a no, no for our airplanes???
Didn't someone do something similar and have bad flying qualities, or
do I need to drink more of my coffee this AM?? Hope I'm wrong, but I
don't want Ron falling out of the sky.
>
> Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
> A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
> Omaha NE
> N25974
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Weiss
> To: Q-LIST@...
> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:29 AM
> Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Water Cooling Ducts
>
>
> --If you go to Photos, you'll see the begining of this project.
I'll
> keep adding photos as our progess moves along. ...Ron- In Q-
> LIST@..., "Ron Weiss" <ronweiss4@> wrote:
> >
> > Hey Guy's, If anyoneone is interested in a P-38 style cooling
> system
> > with the ducts on the rear tailcone, I have the molds made and
> ready to
> > make parts! I've spent the better part of 4 months working on
the
> > plugs. The system requires 2 older Ford air conditioning cores
and
> fits
> > between the mounting brackets and the rear bulkhead. It was
> designed by
> > a mechanical engineer who is working with me. We'll be testing
the
> > system soon to see how well it works. Jon Finley's design is
very
> nice
> > for a P-51 style, however my exaust pipes come out the bottom.
So a
> > side intake system seemed more reasonable. If your engine
requires
> > water cooling, this is one more option you may want to
consider.
> I'm
> > not interested in making money, so if this an option for you,
I'll
> keep
> > posting my results and let you know how the testing is going!
This
> > system works well for me. The EJ 22 is a heavy engine and the
> weight in
> > the back of the plane helps to elieviate this problem. This is
> truuuuly
> > experimental ground were on kiddies. Fun, Huh? Ron
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: Water Cooling Ducts

Ron Weiss <ronweiss4@...>
 

-Doug, I discussed this with a aeronautical engineer who saw my
plane, He said it was smooth enough and would be fine. I appreciate
your concern, but, I've already done the research on this. I blended
the stripe into the paint....Ron-- In Q-LIST@..., "Doug
Humble" <hawkidoug@...> wrote:

Ron, in the photo that shows your engine, it looks like there is a
red stripe with white stars painted a long the leading edge of your
canard. Is this correct?

If so, I ask the group, isn't this a no, no for our airplanes???
Didn't someone do something similar and have bad flying qualities, or
do I need to drink more of my coffee this AM?? Hope I'm wrong, but I
don't want Ron falling out of the sky.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Weiss
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:29 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Water Cooling Ducts


--If you go to Photos, you'll see the begining of this project.
I'll
keep adding photos as our progess moves along. ...Ron- In Q-
LIST@..., "Ron Weiss" <ronweiss4@> wrote:
>
> Hey Guy's, If anyoneone is interested in a P-38 style cooling
system
> with the ducts on the rear tailcone, I have the molds made and
ready to
> make parts! I've spent the better part of 4 months working on
the
> plugs. The system requires 2 older Ford air conditioning cores
and
fits
> between the mounting brackets and the rear bulkhead. It was
designed by
> a mechanical engineer who is working with me. We'll be testing
the
> system soon to see how well it works. Jon Finley's design is
very
nice
> for a P-51 style, however my exaust pipes come out the bottom.
So a
> side intake system seemed more reasonable. If your engine
requires
> water cooling, this is one more option you may want to
consider.
I'm
> not interested in making money, so if this an option for you,
I'll
keep
> posting my results and let you know how the testing is going!
This
> system works well for me. The EJ 22 is a heavy engine and the
weight in
> the back of the plane helps to elieviate this problem. This is
truuuuly
> experimental ground were on kiddies. Fun, Huh? Ron
>







Re: Tri Q Hoop Bolts

Richard Thomson
 

Thanks Guys, I'll give them a go.

Richard

Richard Thomson
G-BMFN TriQ200
richard@...


Re: Takeoff/Landing Video

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Great analogy Steve! I sweat just looking at the video. Anyone complaining about the handling qualities of this airplane can be sent to Jon's video.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Takeoff/Landing Video


Jon,

Is that your driveway with a centerline. It can't be much narrower????

Great video..
Steve Ham

----- Original Message -----
From: jon@...
To: q-list@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Takeoff/Landing Video

... and another video. This one is a takeoff and landing filmed from the approach end of the runway.

The last entry (currently) on my Video page:

[http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff/Videos/tabid/186/Default.aspx] http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff/Videos/tabid/186/Default.aspx

Or directly:

[http://68.178.49.203/jon/314JF-TakeoffAndLandingE98-2007Oct24.wmv] http://68.178.49.203/jon/314JF-TakeoffAndLandingE98-2007Oct24.wmv

Jon


Re: Water Cooling Ducts

Paul Buckley
 

As I remember it was the GU that was particularly unforgiving with surface irregularities such as paint stripes on the leading edge.
One builder couldn't even get airborne after painting a stripe along his LE.

Paul Buckley
Cheshire
England

TriQ-200
Still building..................... ;-(

----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Humble
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 1:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Water Cooling Ducts


Ron, in the photo that shows your engine, it looks like there is a red stripe with white stars painted a long the leading edge of your canard. Is this correct?

If so, I ask the group, isn't this a no, no for our airplanes??? Didn't someone do something similar and have bad flying qualities, or do I need to drink more of my coffee this AM?? Hope I'm wrong, but I don't want Ron falling out of the sky.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Weiss
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:29 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Water Cooling Ducts

--If you go to Photos, you'll see the begining of this project. I'll
keep adding photos as our progess moves along. ...Ron- In Q-
LIST@..., "Ron Weiss" <ronweiss4@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Guy's, If anyoneone is interested in a P-38 style cooling
system
> with the ducts on the rear tailcone, I have the molds made and
ready to
> make parts! I've spent the better part of 4 months working on the
> plugs. The system requires 2 older Ford air conditioning cores and
fits
> between the mounting brackets and the rear bulkhead. It was
designed by
> a mechanical engineer who is working with me. We'll be testing the
> system soon to see how well it works. Jon Finley's design is very
nice
> for a P-51 style, however my exaust pipes come out the bottom. So a
> side intake system seemed more reasonable. If your engine requires
> water cooling, this is one more option you may want to consider.
I'm
> not interested in making money, so if this an option for you, I'll
keep
> posting my results and let you know how the testing is going! This
> system works well for me. The EJ 22 is a heavy engine and the
weight in
> the back of the plane helps to elieviate this problem. This is
truuuuly
> experimental ground were on kiddies. Fun, Huh? Ron
>








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Re: Water Cooling Ducts

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Ron, in the photo that shows your engine, it looks like there is a red stripe with white stars painted a long the leading edge of your canard. Is this correct?

If so, I ask the group, isn't this a no, no for our airplanes??? Didn't someone do something similar and have bad flying qualities, or do I need to drink more of my coffee this AM?? Hope I'm wrong, but I don't want Ron falling out of the sky.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Weiss
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2007 12:29 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Water Cooling Ducts


--If you go to Photos, you'll see the begining of this project. I'll
keep adding photos as our progess moves along. ...Ron- In Q-
LIST@..., "Ron Weiss" <ronweiss4@...> wrote:
>
> Hey Guy's, If anyoneone is interested in a P-38 style cooling
system
> with the ducts on the rear tailcone, I have the molds made and
ready to
> make parts! I've spent the better part of 4 months working on the
> plugs. The system requires 2 older Ford air conditioning cores and
fits
> between the mounting brackets and the rear bulkhead. It was
designed by
> a mechanical engineer who is working with me. We'll be testing the
> system soon to see how well it works. Jon Finley's design is very
nice
> for a P-51 style, however my exaust pipes come out the bottom. So a
> side intake system seemed more reasonable. If your engine requires
> water cooling, this is one more option you may want to consider.
I'm
> not interested in making money, so if this an option for you, I'll
keep
> posting my results and let you know how the testing is going! This
> system works well for me. The EJ 22 is a heavy engine and the
weight in
> the back of the plane helps to elieviate this problem. This is
truuuuly
> experimental ground were on kiddies. Fun, Huh? Ron
>


Re: Water Cooling Ducts

Ron Weiss <ronweiss4@...>
 

--If you go to Photos, you'll see the begining of this project. I'll
keep adding photos as our progess moves along. ...Ron- In Q-
LIST@..., "Ron Weiss" <ronweiss4@...> wrote:

Hey Guy's, If anyoneone is interested in a P-38 style cooling
system
with the ducts on the rear tailcone, I have the molds made and
ready to
make parts! I've spent the better part of 4 months working on the
plugs. The system requires 2 older Ford air conditioning cores and
fits
between the mounting brackets and the rear bulkhead. It was
designed by
a mechanical engineer who is working with me. We'll be testing the
system soon to see how well it works. Jon Finley's design is very
nice
for a P-51 style, however my exaust pipes come out the bottom. So a
side intake system seemed more reasonable. If your engine requires
water cooling, this is one more option you may want to consider.
I'm
not interested in making money, so if this an option for you, I'll
keep
posting my results and let you know how the testing is going! This
system works well for me. The EJ 22 is a heavy engine and the
weight in
the back of the plane helps to elieviate this problem. This is
truuuuly
experimental ground were on kiddies. Fun, Huh? Ron


Re: Takeoff/Landing Video

Steve <sham@...>
 

Jon,

Is that your driveway with a centerline. It can't be much narrower????


Great video..
Steve Ham

----- Original Message -----
From: jon@...
To: q-list@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:04 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Takeoff/Landing Video



... and another video. This one is a takeoff and landing filmed from the approach end of the runway.

The last entry (currently) on my Video page:

[http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff/Videos/tabid/186/Default.aspx] http://www.finleyweb.net/JonsStuff/Videos/tabid/186/Default.aspx

Or directly:

[http://68.178.49.203/jon/314JF-TakeoffAndLandingE98-2007Oct24.wmv] http://68.178.49.203/jon/314JF-TakeoffAndLandingE98-2007Oct24.wmv

Jon