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Re: Waddelow Canard

Bruce Crain
 

Thanks Paul,
Muchly appreciated!! I figure that if I add an extra 14" to the middle
of the canard and the remaining 14" to the out board ends (7" on each
end) it shouldn't be to hard to blend the extra in with the rest. Or I
could just build the middle to spec and add the 14" to both ends of the
canard. It will take some interesting carving to get it to blend and
taper. Does anyone remember how many layers of glass it takes to make a
16th of an inch? Is it 6? I think this canard should be a little
lighter than the carbon fiber spar. I would enjoy giving you a ride but
it will take some time to remodel.
My address is Bruce Crain
2816 Meadowlark
Enid, OK 73703



On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:23:09 +0100 "Paul Buckley"
<Buckley@...> writes:
Hi Bruce
You could do with making new templates without the semi-circular cut
out for
the spar. I think I made some spare paper patterns for them so I'll
look
them up as soon as I have time, probably next week when I'll also have
access to our company copier.
Waddelow didn't require payment and I certainly don't,..just give me a
ride
when it's finished !
You are aware that the plans I have are for the 200" canard ?
Where abouts are you, anyway ?
Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: The Bruce Crains <jcrain2@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Waddelow Canard


Paul,
I would greatly appreciate the plans and pics! I hope to build the
canard and wing 228" long for extra lift and high alt. flying. Tell
me
how much I can pay you and where to send the check. I have the
templates
for the carbon fiber LS1 canard. Will they be sufficient to cut the
foam
cores? Snail mail is great as our computer is so old that I can't
do
pictures or mime form. I'm still busy getting my Q tucked away into
the
hanger and cleaning up things in the garage for the "long haul".
Thanks Paul!!
Bruce

P.S. That's ok, you don't need to send the "girlie pictures" I am
married
to a real "BABE"!! Sorry girls everyone else is 2nd best. Once
when I
was building my Q I told Joanne that her biggest competition was out
in
the garage. There that should help some of you guys who are getting
resistance to "your being out in the garage all the time". It takes
some
diplomacy and lots of "smooches" to make it happen.


On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:18:11 +0100 "Paul Buckley"
<Buckley@...> writes:
Bruce
I have the plans and constructional notes for the 'Waddelow' canard
but I
will have to photo-copy them as I don't have a scanner, and send
them
snail
mail. This may take a couple of weeks.
Essentially the canard is laid up the same way as the main wing
with
the
following differences :-

No dihedral [or anhedral !]
All spar caps longer and tapered
Extra spar cap on upper surface
Extra shear-web from BL15 to BL 57 at 30% cord
Main shear web at 60% cord [the carbon spar is at 55% cord]
Main shearweb reinforced
Glass ribs at BL 15
Cordwise reinforcing strips, 6" wide, on top surface at BL 16
Slightly different planform to simplify cutting cores and fitting
elevators

.......and that's about it !
It should be noted that this canard is for the Tri-Q only, whereas
the
Larry
Weishaar and Jim
Doyle canard would appear to be good for the tail dragger.

Paul Buckley

----- Original Message -----
From: The Bruce Crains <jcrain2@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 4:45 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Waddelow Canard


Does anyone have the Waddelow carbon fiberless canard plans?
Pictures
are good to. Ah likes pitchurs.
Bruce Crain

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Re: Waddelow Canard

Bruce Crain
 

Hey Kimbull,
How are you doing! It's good to hear from you! Will you be at Ottawa
this year?
I am planning to convert my Q to a Tri Q so there will be no gear
attached to the canard. Shouldn't be near the stress.
Bruce Crain

On Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:42:13 +0100 "Paul Buckley"
<Buckley@...> writes:
Kimbull
No, the Waddelow lay-up schedule is designed for the LS1.
Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: kimbull mcandrew <kimbullm@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Waddelow Canard


Bruce

One thing you will need to adjust for when using the Waddelow lay-up
schedule is that it was designed for the GU canard which is a
thicker
airfoil. Since the LS1 is thinner you will need more spar caps. I
used the
Dragonfly style of C-spar with carbon spar caps and added several
layers of
carbon baesd on some calculations I did. A longer wing will even
require
more caps.


From: The Bruce Crains <jcrain2@...>
Reply-To: Q-LIST@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Waddelow Canard
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:21:32 EDT

Paul,
I would greatly appreciate the plans and pics! I hope to build the
canard and wing 228" long for extra lift and high alt. flying.
Tell me
how much I can pay you and where to send the check. I have the
templates
for the carbon fiber LS1 canard. Will they be sufficient to cut
the foam
cores? Snail mail is great as our computer is so old that I can't
do
pictures or mime form. I'm still busy getting my Q tucked away
into the
hanger and cleaning up things in the garage for the "long haul".
Thanks Paul!!
Bruce

P.S. That's ok, you don't need to send the "girlie pictures" I am
married
to a real "BABE"!! Sorry girls everyone else is 2nd best. Once
when I
was building my Q I told Joanne that her biggest competition was
out in
the garage. There that should help some of you guys who are
getting
resistance to "your being out in the garage all the time". It
takes some
diplomacy and lots of "smooches" to make it happen.


On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:18:11 +0100 "Paul Buckley"
<Buckley@...> writes:
Bruce
I have the plans and constructional notes for the 'Waddelow'
canard
but I
will have to photo-copy them as I don't have a scanner, and send
them
snail
mail. This may take a couple of weeks.
Essentially the canard is laid up the same way as the main wing
with
the
following differences :-

No dihedral [or anhedral !]
All spar caps longer and tapered
Extra spar cap on upper surface
Extra shear-web from BL15 to BL 57 at 30% cord
Main shear web at 60% cord [the carbon spar is at 55% cord]
Main shearweb reinforced
Glass ribs at BL 15
Cordwise reinforcing strips, 6" wide, on top surface at BL 16
Slightly different planform to simplify cutting cores and fitting
elevators

.......and that's about it !
It should be noted that this canard is for the Tri-Q only,
whereas the
Larry
Weishaar and Jim
Doyle canard would appear to be good for the tail dragger.

Paul Buckley

----- Original Message -----
From: The Bruce Crains <jcrain2@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 4:45 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Waddelow Canard


Does anyone have the Waddelow carbon fiberless canard plans?
Pictures
are good to. Ah likes pitchurs.
Bruce Crain

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Re: Waddelow Canard

Paul Buckley <Buckley@...>
 

Kimbull
No, the Waddelow lay-up schedule is designed for the LS1.
Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: kimbull mcandrew <kimbullm@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Waddelow Canard


Bruce

One thing you will need to adjust for when using the Waddelow lay-up
schedule is that it was designed for the GU canard which is a thicker
airfoil. Since the LS1 is thinner you will need more spar caps. I used the
Dragonfly style of C-spar with carbon spar caps and added several layers of
carbon baesd on some calculations I did. A longer wing will even require
more caps.


From: The Bruce Crains <jcrain2@...>
Reply-To: Q-LIST@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Waddelow Canard
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:21:32 EDT

Paul,
I would greatly appreciate the plans and pics! I hope to build the
canard and wing 228" long for extra lift and high alt. flying. Tell me
how much I can pay you and where to send the check. I have the templates
for the carbon fiber LS1 canard. Will they be sufficient to cut the foam
cores? Snail mail is great as our computer is so old that I can't do
pictures or mime form. I'm still busy getting my Q tucked away into the
hanger and cleaning up things in the garage for the "long haul".
Thanks Paul!!
Bruce

P.S. That's ok, you don't need to send the "girlie pictures" I am married
to a real "BABE"!! Sorry girls everyone else is 2nd best. Once when I
was building my Q I told Joanne that her biggest competition was out in
the garage. There that should help some of you guys who are getting
resistance to "your being out in the garage all the time". It takes some
diplomacy and lots of "smooches" to make it happen.


On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:18:11 +0100 "Paul Buckley"
<Buckley@...> writes:
Bruce
I have the plans and constructional notes for the 'Waddelow' canard
but I
will have to photo-copy them as I don't have a scanner, and send them
snail
mail. This may take a couple of weeks.
Essentially the canard is laid up the same way as the main wing with
the
following differences :-

No dihedral [or anhedral !]
All spar caps longer and tapered
Extra spar cap on upper surface
Extra shear-web from BL15 to BL 57 at 30% cord
Main shear web at 60% cord [the carbon spar is at 55% cord]
Main shearweb reinforced
Glass ribs at BL 15
Cordwise reinforcing strips, 6" wide, on top surface at BL 16
Slightly different planform to simplify cutting cores and fitting
elevators

.......and that's about it !
It should be noted that this canard is for the Tri-Q only, whereas the
Larry
Weishaar and Jim
Doyle canard would appear to be good for the tail dragger.

Paul Buckley

----- Original Message -----
From: The Bruce Crains <jcrain2@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 4:45 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Waddelow Canard


Does anyone have the Waddelow carbon fiberless canard plans?
Pictures
are good to. Ah likes pitchurs.
Bruce Crain

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Elevator notchiness

rayners <rayners@...>
 

Guys, a friend of mine in UK - Clive Clapham - has finished his Q-235 and it is near to completing its first 5 hours flying. As Clive is not currently hooked up to the internet, he has asked me to send a question to the Q-list.
Clive uses adjustable sparrow strainers and adjusted the right one by 5 degrees to change the elevator trim. Since that change, the elevators are now notchy in flight even though they are free-moving on the ground. Does anyone have experience of this phenomenon and what it was? It seems to be an aerodynamic problem, but there is no sign of what might cause it - no slackness in bearings or bolted joints.
Clive will appreciate some advice.
Chris Rayner


Re: Waddelow Canard

Paul Buckley <Buckley@...>
 

Hi Bruce
You could do with making new templates without the semi-circular cut out for
the spar. I think I made some spare paper patterns for them so I'll look
them up as soon as I have time, probably next week when I'll also have
access to our company copier.
Waddelow didn't require payment and I certainly don't,..just give me a ride
when it's finished !
You are aware that the plans I have are for the 200" canard ?
Where abouts are you, anyway ?
Paul

----- Original Message -----
From: The Bruce Crains <jcrain2@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Waddelow Canard


Paul,
I would greatly appreciate the plans and pics! I hope to build the
canard and wing 228" long for extra lift and high alt. flying. Tell me
how much I can pay you and where to send the check. I have the templates
for the carbon fiber LS1 canard. Will they be sufficient to cut the foam
cores? Snail mail is great as our computer is so old that I can't do
pictures or mime form. I'm still busy getting my Q tucked away into the
hanger and cleaning up things in the garage for the "long haul".
Thanks Paul!!
Bruce

P.S. That's ok, you don't need to send the "girlie pictures" I am married
to a real "BABE"!! Sorry girls everyone else is 2nd best. Once when I
was building my Q I told Joanne that her biggest competition was out in
the garage. There that should help some of you guys who are getting
resistance to "your being out in the garage all the time". It takes some
diplomacy and lots of "smooches" to make it happen.


On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:18:11 +0100 "Paul Buckley"
<Buckley@...> writes:
Bruce
I have the plans and constructional notes for the 'Waddelow' canard
but I
will have to photo-copy them as I don't have a scanner, and send them
snail
mail. This may take a couple of weeks.
Essentially the canard is laid up the same way as the main wing with
the
following differences :-

No dihedral [or anhedral !]
All spar caps longer and tapered
Extra spar cap on upper surface
Extra shear-web from BL15 to BL 57 at 30% cord
Main shear web at 60% cord [the carbon spar is at 55% cord]
Main shearweb reinforced
Glass ribs at BL 15
Cordwise reinforcing strips, 6" wide, on top surface at BL 16
Slightly different planform to simplify cutting cores and fitting
elevators

.......and that's about it !
It should be noted that this canard is for the Tri-Q only, whereas the
Larry
Weishaar and Jim
Doyle canard would appear to be good for the tail dragger.

Paul Buckley

----- Original Message -----
From: The Bruce Crains <jcrain2@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 4:45 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Waddelow Canard


Does anyone have the Waddelow carbon fiberless canard plans?
Pictures
are good to. Ah likes pitchurs.
Bruce Crain

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Re: 4th flight results

Terry Crouch
 

Hi Doug,

Just curious what are you using for a climb speed?

Terry Crouch
Q1 N14TC

In a message dated 6/11/01 1:11:52 PM Central Daylight Time,
HawkiDoug@... writes:

<< I flew my Q2 w/the type 4 VW this past Sat. AM again. While things are
not
perfect, they are getting better. I adjusted my Revflow carb needle 3/4 of
a
turn to increase the mixture and increased the diameter of the hose on the
breather and also replaced my oil fill cap with a low profile cap which has
a
built in filter and a nipple for a second hose which I utilized. Then I
went
flying. On climb out I saw my CHT going above 400 degrees so I powered back
to 2800 rpm. I can still climb at 500-600 fpm so why not?! My CHT peaked
at
425 using this technique. At altitude (4500ft) I began my circling of a
close by lake as I have done on every flight so far. I powered back to 2600
rpm because things cooled down at this power setting on my last flight.
After 10 min. CHT were 350 and oil was 180. I could live with this. I then
leaned the mixture and picked up 100 rpm. I stayed at this setting for 10
min. and the temps were still OK. So, it was time to quit circling. I was
getting dizzy! I got my clearance to fly over to a nearby airport and
pointed her in that direction. I trimmed her up and boy did she take off!
I
picked up 300rpm and saw ground speeds of 144mph on the GPS. I didn't
change
any power settings as things were staying cool where they were. I think I
can get 100-200 more rpm from a more aggressive power setting when I'm
comfortable with my cooling.

Now for the lesson I learned on my 4th landing. Upon landing everything was
fine. Then the tower asked me to "turn left at bravo" Well, bravo was
approaching fast so I began to apply my brakes when I was still rolling
quite
fast. My right brake grabbed more than the left and the next thing I knew I
was stopped and pointing 60 degrees from straight down the run way. But I
came to a stop at Bravo!!!!! So, I gave it some throttle and responded,
"turning left at bravo". Next time I'll roll out and take the next taxi way
(assuming I have enough runway left). My 1st ground loop was a docil
experience but everything happened quite fast. I'm glad I'm still landing
on
a 9500'x150' runway.

Still having fun!!

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
Omaha NE
N25974
A Sign Above
>>


Re: Elevator notchiness

Hot Wings
 

In a message dated 6/11/01 15:34:45 Pacific Daylight Time,
rayners@... writes:

<< Does anyone have experience of this phenomenon and what it was? It seems
to be an aerodynamic problem, but there is no sign of what might cause it -
no slackness in bearings or bolted joints.
Clive will appreciate some advice. >>
=================================
Could it be that the sparrow strainers are alternately stalling? 5 deg.
differential seems like a lot. Just a WAG.

"Think outside the box - but fly in the envelope"
<A HREF="http://hometown.aol.com/bd5er/Qpage.html">Q-2 page</A>
Leon McAtee


(No subject)

David J. Gall
 

Welcome back, Neil.

You may wish to check the archives on the Q-List website. There's been some
recent traffic regarding engine options, re: four cycle engine options, etc.
I'm not sure I understand your aversion to the Rotax, though. The Konig is
more reliable ... how? I think the proliferation of the Rotax is a good
indicator of its reliability and suitability for aircraft use, with certain
caveats. The new ones even have oil injection and dual ignition. Plus, the
Hawks/McCaman report on the Rotax powered Quickie Solution is nicely packed
up in .pdf format in the Q-List website files area....


David J. Gall

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil France [mailto:n.france@...]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 2:22 PM
To: Quickie Builders List
Subject: [Q-LIST]


Hi everyone

It has been a while since I was on this list but thought I might "sign up"
again and see what was new in the Q-world.
I am still in the slow process of rebuilding a Quickie (reattach the tail
and install the trailering joint mod) and am still considering different
engine options. I have a Konig radial engine that I thought would be a
reasonable option, however it makes me a little weary when I cannot find
anyone who is flying with one in a Quickie. What's the reason for this? I
have also tried to locate parts for the "Stubbs Aero Super Quickie"
conversion, (e.g. engine mounts, cowls, etc), but again I can't even find
anyone around the world that has removed this installation in disgust! Is
there anyone out there who can enlighten me?
The fun engine option would be the 503, but I'm really not all that keen on
that option due to the fact that an engine out over much of the country side
that I fly over would be more than just an inconvenience.

Cheers---Neil.

Neil France
R.D.1
Taupo
New Zealand

Ph +64 021 15-67067
Email n.france@...





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Re: Xwind landings

Robert M. Farnam <bfarnam@...>
 

victor wade wrote:

Hi guys ..

Can anyone tell me what the Xwind limit of my Q2 is ..

I finally was landing at 10 knots 60 deg off the runway...

Seems to me it needs a lot of rudder and hardly any aileron (I cant believe
how touchy this Q2 is on the ailerons !!)

The plane is stock Q2 with the regular rudder and the T tail...

Also I'm going to paint the plane shortly... would appreciate knowing what
colors are acceptable other than white.... I have seen Yellow which is
really cool.... seems the control tower is having trouble seeing me ..
Victor (no nore taxiing ) Wade

C-GYZC (3 hours)
TCCA Toronto

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Victor,

My limit is around 14-15 kts crosswind component. It's more touchy in a
takeoff with left crosswind (can try to weathervane). I seem to remember
an early plans change for the ailerons control which shortened the
control belcrank to desensitize the ailerons and bring them into better
harmony. You might check to see if yours has the change.

Bob F.
N200QK


Re: Waddelow Canard

kimbull mcandrew <kimbullm@...>
 

Bruce

One thing you will need to adjust for when using the Waddelow lay-up schedule is that it was designed for the GU canard which is a thicker airfoil. Since the LS1 is thinner you will need more spar caps. I used the Dragonfly style of C-spar with carbon spar caps and added several layers of carbon baesd on some calculations I did. A longer wing will even require more caps.


From: The Bruce Crains <jcrain2@...>
Reply-To: Q-LIST@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Waddelow Canard
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 22:21:32 EDT

Paul,
I would greatly appreciate the plans and pics! I hope to build the
canard and wing 228" long for extra lift and high alt. flying. Tell me
how much I can pay you and where to send the check. I have the templates
for the carbon fiber LS1 canard. Will they be sufficient to cut the foam
cores? Snail mail is great as our computer is so old that I can't do
pictures or mime form. I'm still busy getting my Q tucked away into the
hanger and cleaning up things in the garage for the "long haul".
Thanks Paul!!
Bruce

P.S. That's ok, you don't need to send the "girlie pictures" I am married
to a real "BABE"!! Sorry girls everyone else is 2nd best. Once when I
was building my Q I told Joanne that her biggest competition was out in
the garage. There that should help some of you guys who are getting
resistance to "your being out in the garage all the time". It takes some
diplomacy and lots of "smooches" to make it happen.


On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:18:11 +0100 "Paul Buckley"
<Buckley@...> writes:
Bruce
I have the plans and constructional notes for the 'Waddelow' canard
but I
will have to photo-copy them as I don't have a scanner, and send them
snail
mail. This may take a couple of weeks.
Essentially the canard is laid up the same way as the main wing with
the
following differences :-

No dihedral [or anhedral !]
All spar caps longer and tapered
Extra spar cap on upper surface
Extra shear-web from BL15 to BL 57 at 30% cord
Main shear web at 60% cord [the carbon spar is at 55% cord]
Main shearweb reinforced
Glass ribs at BL 15
Cordwise reinforcing strips, 6" wide, on top surface at BL 16
Slightly different planform to simplify cutting cores and fitting
elevators

.......and that's about it !
It should be noted that this canard is for the Tri-Q only, whereas the
Larry
Weishaar and Jim
Doyle canard would appear to be good for the tail dragger.

Paul Buckley

----- Original Message -----
From: The Bruce Crains <jcrain2@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 4:45 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Waddelow Canard


Does anyone have the Waddelow carbon fiberless canard plans?
Pictures
are good to. Ah likes pitchurs.
Bruce Crain

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4th flight results

HawkiDoug@...
 

I flew my Q2 w/the type 4 VW this past Sat. AM again. While things are not
perfect, they are getting better. I adjusted my Revflow carb needle 3/4 of a
turn to increase the mixture and increased the diameter of the hose on the
breather and also replaced my oil fill cap with a low profile cap which has a
built in filter and a nipple for a second hose which I utilized. Then I went
flying. On climb out I saw my CHT going above 400 degrees so I powered back
to 2800 rpm. I can still climb at 500-600 fpm so why not?! My CHT peaked at
425 using this technique. At altitude (4500ft) I began my circling of a
close by lake as I have done on every flight so far. I powered back to 2600
rpm because things cooled down at this power setting on my last flight.
After 10 min. CHT were 350 and oil was 180. I could live with this. I then
leaned the mixture and picked up 100 rpm. I stayed at this setting for 10
min. and the temps were still OK. So, it was time to quit circling. I was
getting dizzy! I got my clearance to fly over to a nearby airport and
pointed her in that direction. I trimmed her up and boy did she take off! I
picked up 300rpm and saw ground speeds of 144mph on the GPS. I didn't change
any power settings as things were staying cool where they were. I think I
can get 100-200 more rpm from a more aggressive power setting when I'm
comfortable with my cooling.

Now for the lesson I learned on my 4th landing. Upon landing everything was
fine. Then the tower asked me to "turn left at bravo" Well, bravo was
approaching fast so I began to apply my brakes when I was still rolling quite
fast. My right brake grabbed more than the left and the next thing I knew I
was stopped and pointing 60 degrees from straight down the run way. But I
came to a stop at Bravo!!!!! So, I gave it some throttle and responded,
"turning left at bravo". Next time I'll roll out and take the next taxi way
(assuming I have enough runway left). My 1st ground loop was a docil
experience but everything happened quite fast. I'm glad I'm still landing on
a 9500'x150' runway.

Still having fun!!

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
Omaha NE
N25974
A Sign Above


Re: Waddelow Canard

Bruce Crain
 

Paul,
I would greatly appreciate the plans and pics! I hope to build the
canard and wing 228" long for extra lift and high alt. flying. Tell me
how much I can pay you and where to send the check. I have the templates
for the carbon fiber LS1 canard. Will they be sufficient to cut the foam
cores? Snail mail is great as our computer is so old that I can't do
pictures or mime form. I'm still busy getting my Q tucked away into the
hanger and cleaning up things in the garage for the "long haul".
Thanks Paul!!
Bruce

P.S. That's ok, you don't need to send the "girlie pictures" I am married
to a real "BABE"!! Sorry girls everyone else is 2nd best. Once when I
was building my Q I told Joanne that her biggest competition was out in
the garage. There that should help some of you guys who are getting
resistance to "your being out in the garage all the time". It takes some
diplomacy and lots of "smooches" to make it happen.


On Mon, 5 Jul 1999 01:18:11 +0100 "Paul Buckley"
<Buckley@...> writes:
Bruce
I have the plans and constructional notes for the 'Waddelow' canard
but I
will have to photo-copy them as I don't have a scanner, and send them
snail
mail. This may take a couple of weeks.
Essentially the canard is laid up the same way as the main wing with
the
following differences :-

No dihedral [or anhedral !]
All spar caps longer and tapered
Extra spar cap on upper surface
Extra shear-web from BL15 to BL 57 at 30% cord
Main shear web at 60% cord [the carbon spar is at 55% cord]
Main shearweb reinforced
Glass ribs at BL 15
Cordwise reinforcing strips, 6" wide, on top surface at BL 16
Slightly different planform to simplify cutting cores and fitting
elevators

.......and that's about it !
It should be noted that this canard is for the Tri-Q only, whereas the
Larry
Weishaar and Jim
Doyle canard would appear to be good for the tail dragger.

Paul Buckley

----- Original Message -----
From: The Bruce Crains <jcrain2@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2001 4:45 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Waddelow Canard


Does anyone have the Waddelow carbon fiberless canard plans?
Pictures
are good to. Ah likes pitchurs.
Bruce Crain

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Re: IVO prop

Michael D. Callahan <micallahan@...>
 

As I understand it, the IVO has torsion vibration induced problems on
high power opposed fours due to the sharp reversion of the power pulses
delivered by the crank at lower rpms (2000-2500). This does not appear to be
a problem on the opposed 6s, V-6s, V-8s or rotary conversions.
As for an O-200 installation, I'd certainly put the question to the
folks at IVO before I bought one. The stock engine shouldn't be enough power
to cause a problem, but a tweaked O-200 could cause concern. Mike C.


Re: Porpeller data sheet (56D/45P) Neil Jepsen

Neil Jepsen <jepsen@...>
 

Hi Robert ( And others)
I measured up my 2 props last night. the first is a Cowley 56D x 45P
which came with my engine about 1980. The other is one was made by a
local company that makes props. It is beautifully made , laminated from
5 leyers of Australian birch, and is also marked 56D x 45P. ( Cost was
about US$300).

Cowley:

Dist from hub: BladeA Pitch: BladeB Pitch:
12" 37.5" 37.8"
20" 45.1" 47.8"
28"(tip) 45" 47.2"

Ward Prop:

12" 37.5" 37.8"
20" 41.6" 39"
28" 44.0" 45.9"

As you can see, a 45" prop ain't necessarily a 45" prop!. Strangely
enough, the cowley prop gave me a slightly higher static RPM (2800) than
the Ward prop( 2750), but this doesn't actually mean anything.
neil


Re: IVO prop

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief2.asp?ev_id=20001208X09130&ntsbno=ATL98FA017&a
key=1

My friends that bent the prop bolts was a Magnum

Mike Q-200

----- Original Message -----
From: John Loram <johnl@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 2:12 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] IVO prop


Do you recall which model of the IVO was involved? We've got people in our
chapter flying the Magnum model (up to 700h) successfully on four cylinder
aircraft. They swear by them.

-john-

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Dwyer [mailto:mdwyer@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 8:29 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] IVO prop


2 years ago IVO told me they don't recommend their prop for 4 banger
engines
(O-200A). Others have said that the props are good for converting HP to
noise but not thrust. Personally my friend last year with a Franklin 4
banger tried a 3 blade IVO on his Velocity and after one flight all the
prop
bolts were bent... lets say it didn't fly twice. The idea of bolting a
blade on with 2 bolts is repulsive to me. Life is already to short to use
one of these props.
Mike Q-200

----- Original Message -----
From: Miles Richard B Contr 30CS/DCI <Richard.Miles@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Tri-Q Questions, another try at it


Have you looked at this ? http://www.ivoprop.com/inflightmagnumodel.htm
seam
to be affordable and many Velocity drivers are using them.
IVOPROP Electric In-Flight Adjustable Magnum Model
For engines up to 700 hp
30"- 90" or 45" to 105" pitch range
58"-76" diameter

electric in-flight adjustable pitch
carbon/graphite fiber/composite
30 day money back guarantee
all blades protected by stainless steel leading edges
good for fast planes has scaled down magnum shape
light, strong, efficient, quiet, smooth
beautiful high gloss black gelkote finish
easily and quickly converts from 3 blade into 2 blade configuration -
giving
you a spare blade
blades individually replaceable
IVOPROP Magnum Model Electric In-Flight Adjustable Prop
2-Blade 24.2 Lbs. $1910.00
3-Blade 26.7 Lbs $2130.00
6-Blade 45.5 Lbs. $2890.00
Retrofit kit 9.0 Lbs. $1300.00

-----Original Message-----
From: Cash, Gene [mailto:CASH@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:56 AM
To: 'Q-LIST@...'
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Tri-Q Questions, another try at it


Earni,
Mark has a website for the Tri-Q nose gear. It's www.Q-gear.com.
Unfortunately it doesn't list his phone number. I have it at home and
have
talked to him recently. I'll check tonight to see if it matches the one
Bruce provided.

Bruce and All,
I sent in a quote request to MT Props giving all the data for the 0-200
Q2
and got a price quotation of $8150 NOT including crating and shipping
from
Munich. After coming to, I contacted McCauley and Hartzell and found
out
why nobody flies with a constant speed prop on an 0-200 - nobody else
makes
as electrically driven constant speed prop for an 0-200. I'd love to
find
an alternative if anyone has any leads since I'm convinced constant
speed
is
the way to go but spending as much for a prop as I spent for the whole
kit
is hard to swallow right now.

Gene

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Re: IVO prop

John Loram <johnl@...>
 

Do you recall which model of the IVO was involved? We've got people in our
chapter flying the Magnum model (up to 700h) successfully on four cylinder
aircraft. They swear by them.

-john-

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Dwyer [mailto:mdwyer@...]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 8:29 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] IVO prop


2 years ago IVO told me they don't recommend their prop for 4 banger engines
(O-200A). Others have said that the props are good for converting HP to
noise but not thrust. Personally my friend last year with a Franklin 4
banger tried a 3 blade IVO on his Velocity and after one flight all the prop
bolts were bent... lets say it didn't fly twice. The idea of bolting a
blade on with 2 bolts is repulsive to me. Life is already to short to use
one of these props.
Mike Q-200

----- Original Message -----
From: Miles Richard B Contr 30CS/DCI <Richard.Miles@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Tri-Q Questions, another try at it


Have you looked at this ? http://www.ivoprop.com/inflightmagnumodel.htm
seam
to be affordable and many Velocity drivers are using them.
IVOPROP Electric In-Flight Adjustable Magnum Model
For engines up to 700 hp
30"- 90" or 45" to 105" pitch range
58"-76" diameter

electric in-flight adjustable pitch
carbon/graphite fiber/composite
30 day money back guarantee
all blades protected by stainless steel leading edges
good for fast planes has scaled down magnum shape
light, strong, efficient, quiet, smooth
beautiful high gloss black gelkote finish
easily and quickly converts from 3 blade into 2 blade configuration -
giving
you a spare blade
blades individually replaceable
IVOPROP Magnum Model Electric In-Flight Adjustable Prop
2-Blade 24.2 Lbs. $1910.00
3-Blade 26.7 Lbs $2130.00
6-Blade 45.5 Lbs. $2890.00
Retrofit kit 9.0 Lbs. $1300.00

-----Original Message-----
From: Cash, Gene [mailto:CASH@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:56 AM
To: 'Q-LIST@...'
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Tri-Q Questions, another try at it


Earni,
Mark has a website for the Tri-Q nose gear. It's www.Q-gear.com.
Unfortunately it doesn't list his phone number. I have it at home and
have
talked to him recently. I'll check tonight to see if it matches the one
Bruce provided.

Bruce and All,
I sent in a quote request to MT Props giving all the data for the 0-200 Q2
and got a price quotation of $8150 NOT including crating and shipping from
Munich. After coming to, I contacted McCauley and Hartzell and found out
why nobody flies with a constant speed prop on an 0-200 - nobody else
makes
as electrically driven constant speed prop for an 0-200. I'd love to find
an alternative if anyone has any leads since I'm convinced constant speed
is
the way to go but spending as much for a prop as I spent for the whole kit
is hard to swallow right now.

Gene

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Re: Xwind landings

Sam Hoskins <shoskins@...>
 

Victor,

My limit is around 15 kts at 90 degrees, that comes with experience. As for
the aileron, that is one of the best parts. Rather than call it "touchy" I
would call it "responsive".

As far as color for visibility, I dunno. The Q-birds are notoriously difficult
for tower personnel to see. Even my home hase has a hard time finding me and
they know what to look for. Better just consider yourself stealthy.

I have a taildragger Q-200. Once I went into a different field and when I was
on short final the tower controller said "Experimental on final, check gear
down".

Down and locked!

Sam



victor wade wrote:

Hi guys ..

Can anyone tell me what the Xwind limit of my Q2 is ..

I finally was landing at 10 knots 60 deg off the runway...

Seems to me it needs a lot of rudder and hardly any aileron (I cant believe
how touchy this Q2 is on the ailerons !!)

The plane is stock Q2 with the regular rudder and the T tail...

Also I'm going to paint the plane shortly... would appreciate knowing what
colors are acceptable other than white.... I have seen Yellow which is
really cool.... seems the control tower is having trouble seeing me ..
Victor (no nore taxiing ) Wade

C-GYZC (3 hours)
TCCA Toronto

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Re: Xwind landings

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

Can anyone tell me what the Xwind limit of my Q2 is ..
No, it's mostly the pilot I think. And each plane is different. I've set
limits of 10K from the left, 15K from the right.

Also I'm going to paint the plane shortly... would appreciate knowing what
colors are acceptable other than white.... I have seen Yellow which is
really cool.... seems the control tower is having trouble seeing me ..
Suggest your tower people get some glasses. In hot places like Florida,
white is the best, yellow second. I understand the military has IR
reflective paints in lots of colors but at $500 for a hammer I can't afford
the paint I'm sure! In Canada yellow should be fine.

Mike Q-200


Re: IVO prop

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

2 years ago IVO told me they don't recommend their prop for 4 banger engines
(O-200A). Others have said that the props are good for converting HP to
noise but not thrust. Personally my friend last year with a Franklin 4
banger tried a 3 blade IVO on his Velocity and after one flight all the prop
bolts were bent... lets say it didn't fly twice. The idea of bolting a
blade on with 2 bolts is repulsive to me. Life is already to short to use
one of these props.
Mike Q-200

----- Original Message -----
From: Miles Richard B Contr 30CS/DCI <Richard.Miles@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:01 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Tri-Q Questions, another try at it


Have you looked at this ? http://www.ivoprop.com/inflightmagnumodel.htm
seam
to be affordable and many Velocity drivers are using them.
IVOPROP Electric In-Flight Adjustable Magnum Model
For engines up to 700 hp
30"- 90" or 45" to 105" pitch range
58"-76" diameter

electric in-flight adjustable pitch
carbon/graphite fiber/composite
30 day money back guarantee
all blades protected by stainless steel leading edges
good for fast planes has scaled down magnum shape
light, strong, efficient, quiet, smooth
beautiful high gloss black gelkote finish
easily and quickly converts from 3 blade into 2 blade configuration -
giving
you a spare blade
blades individually replaceable
IVOPROP Magnum Model Electric In-Flight Adjustable Prop
2-Blade 24.2 Lbs. $1910.00
3-Blade 26.7 Lbs $2130.00
6-Blade 45.5 Lbs. $2890.00
Retrofit kit 9.0 Lbs. $1300.00

-----Original Message-----
From: Cash, Gene [mailto:CASH@...]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 8:56 AM
To: 'Q-LIST@...'
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Tri-Q Questions, another try at it


Earni,
Mark has a website for the Tri-Q nose gear. It's www.Q-gear.com.
Unfortunately it doesn't list his phone number. I have it at home and
have
talked to him recently. I'll check tonight to see if it matches the one
Bruce provided.

Bruce and All,
I sent in a quote request to MT Props giving all the data for the 0-200 Q2
and got a price quotation of $8150 NOT including crating and shipping from
Munich. After coming to, I contacted McCauley and Hartzell and found out
why nobody flies with a constant speed prop on an 0-200 - nobody else
makes
as electrically driven constant speed prop for an 0-200. I'd love to find
an alternative if anyone has any leads since I'm convinced constant speed
is
the way to go but spending as much for a prop as I spent for the whole kit
is hard to swallow right now.

Gene

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Xwind landings

victor wade <victorwade@...>
 

Hi guys ..

Can anyone tell me what the Xwind limit of my Q2 is ..

I finally was landing at 10 knots 60 deg off the runway...

Seems to me it needs a lot of rudder and hardly any aileron (I cant believe how touchy this Q2 is on the ailerons !!)

The plane is stock Q2 with the regular rudder and the T tail...

Also I'm going to paint the plane shortly... would appreciate knowing what colors are acceptable other than white.... I have seen Yellow which is really cool.... seems the control tower is having trouble seeing me ..
Victor (no nore taxiing ) Wade

C-GYZC (3 hours)
TCCA Toronto

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