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Re: Changes

Dave Dugas
 

Rene......Glad you are still flying with a Revmaster in you Tri Q....seems like the O-200 guys get a bigger share of the action.  I fly quite confidently in my Revmaster powered Q2.  I agree that tthe Revmaster is a reliable engine, and the support from Revmaster has always been excellent.  Your help was right on target regarding the Aurora auto spark plug wires, which totally got rid of the interference in my electronics.  I still have the dual Bendix mags, and recently there was a post inquiring about replacing the mags with electronic ignition.  I would recomend , just as you did....stick with the mags.  I replaced the points and timed the mags on the bench without any problems, and hopefully I'll get another 500 hours out of them.  I'll be going to the Field of Dreams fly-in in the fall, hopefully you will too.  Good luck with your Tri-Q.
Jim......hope you're not getting senile yet,  thanks for thenice comment. 
 
Dave Dugas N68DD

--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Jim Patillo <logistics_engineering@...> wrote:


From: Jim Patillo <logistics_engineering@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Changes
To: Q-LIST@...
Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 9:11 PM









Rene,

After thinking about it.......... .... I didn't mention Dave Dugas in that comment. He has the other nicest Revemaster Q I've ever seen. Excuse me Mr. Dave, I'm getting senile in my old age.

Rene, What date is Arlington this year? I may try to attend if I can get across the border. How are accomodations there?

Regards,
Jim Patillo

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups. com, Rene Robertson <q2robertson@ ...> wrote:

Thanks Jim,
 
Yes, it was an emotionally difficult decision to sell our Q2.  We owned it for 11 years and I had put about 1000 hours on BWV with many good trips including a couple into California.  LVK where Melinda and I met you great folks.  BWV was light and had a really nice flying attitude.  The new owner will have a great little Q2 once he gets going with it.
 
I kept my Revmaster and it is in the our new TriQ2.  I trust that engine anywhere and know it very well having rebuilt it with better than stock components.  The TriQ2 has the LS1 canard and seems to have more elevator authority than the GU had.  On the runway it is totally different and very few rudder inputs are required.  Speedwise, I'd say they are within 5 MPH from each other.  I'm still able to hit 190-195 MPH with the TriQ2 on a low and over where as with the same engine and prop on the Q2 I was able to hit 200 MPH diving into it.  In the air I don't notice any difference. 
 
Dr. Steve has been busy flying his repaired Q2 C-GMBK for about a year and now that he is retired, he's pounding on the hours.  He's put his Revmaster back on after the repairs and is flying with it.
 
So we still have 3 flying Q's in Abbotsford.
Rene

--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Jim Patillo <logistics_engineer ing@...> wrote:


From: Jim Patillo <logistics_engineer ing@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Changes
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. com
Received: Monday, June 8, 2009, 2:23 PM









Congratulations Rene,

It must of been difficult selling your plane, it was the nicest Revemaster version I ever saw. You built it didn't you? Looks like you've got another winner in the TriQ. What engine does it have and hjow do you compare the TriQ and tail dragger now that you have owned both?

Also, did Dr. Steve ever get another Q?

Regards,
Jim Patillo
Q200


--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups. com, Rene Robertson <q2robertson@ ...> wrote:

Hi All,
 
This spring I sold my Q2 C-FBWV to a very nice fellow in Rocky Mountain House, Alberta and bought my friend Brad's plans built TriQ2 C-GCTA.  As most of you know Brad did an awesome job building this airplane and the workmanship is flawless.  After an engine change I started flying TCA two weekends ago.  I have about 6 hours on her now and she flies wonderfully and tracks straight down the runway.  I'm very happy with the new TriQ2 and promissed Brad that I will take good care of her.  For pics of my new bird see:
http://s196. photobucket. com/albums/ aa266/q2robertso n/?action= view&current= NewStripe009. jpg
http://s196. photobucket. com/albums/ aa266/q2robertso n/?action= view&current= NewStripe012. jpg
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Re: Changes

Rene Robertson <q2robertson@...>
 

Jim,
 
Yep, there are a lot of very nice Q's out there.  One of the nicest I've ever seen is Dave Wall's Q2 here at Abbotsford.  Check out the airbrushed paint job and leppard skin interior;
 
http://s196.photobucket.com/albums/aa266/q2robertson/?action=view¤t=00029.jpg
 
Dave Dugas sent me pictur of his and it is a beauty as well.
 
Rene

--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Jim Patillo <logistics_engineering@...> wrote:


From: Jim Patillo <logistics_engineering@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Changes
To: Q-LIST@...
Received: Monday, June 8, 2009, 9:11 PM









Rene,

After thinking about it.......... .... I didn't mention Dave Dugas in that comment. He has the other nicest Revemaster Q I've ever seen. Excuse me Mr. Dave, I'm getting senile in my old age.

Rene, What date is Arlington this year? I may try to attend if I can get across the border. How are accomodations there?

Regards,
Jim Patillo

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups. com, Rene Robertson <q2robertson@ ...> wrote:

Thanks Jim,
 
Yes, it was an emotionally difficult decision to sell our Q2.  We owned it for 11 years and I had put about 1000 hours on BWV with many good trips including a couple into California.  LVK where Melinda and I met you great folks.  BWV was light and had a really nice flying attitude.  The new owner will have a great little Q2 once he gets going with it.
 
I kept my Revmaster and it is in the our new TriQ2.  I trust that engine anywhere and know it very well having rebuilt it with better than stock components.  The TriQ2 has the LS1 canard and seems to have more elevator authority than the GU had.  On the runway it is totally different and very few rudder inputs are required.  Speedwise, I'd say they are within 5 MPH from each other.  I'm still able to hit 190-195 MPH with the TriQ2 on a low and over where as with the same engine and prop on the Q2 I was able to hit 200 MPH diving into it.  In the air I don't notice any difference. 
 
Dr. Steve has been busy flying his repaired Q2 C-GMBK for about a year and now that he is retired, he's pounding on the hours.  He's put his Revmaster back on after the repairs and is flying with it.
 
So we still have 3 flying Q's in Abbotsford.
Rene

--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Jim Patillo <logistics_engineer ing@...> wrote:


From: Jim Patillo <logistics_engineer ing@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Changes
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. com
Received: Monday, June 8, 2009, 2:23 PM









Congratulations Rene,

It must of been difficult selling your plane, it was the nicest Revemaster version I ever saw. You built it didn't you? Looks like you've got another winner in the TriQ. What engine does it have and hjow do you compare the TriQ and tail dragger now that you have owned both?

Also, did Dr. Steve ever get another Q?

Regards,
Jim Patillo
Q200


--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups. com, Rene Robertson <q2robertson@ ...> wrote:

Hi All,
 
This spring I sold my Q2 C-FBWV to a very nice fellow in Rocky Mountain House, Alberta and bought my friend Brad's plans built TriQ2 C-GCTA.  As most of you know Brad did an awesome job building this airplane and the workmanship is flawless.  After an engine change I started flying TCA two weekends ago.  I have about 6 hours on her now and she flies wonderfully and tracks straight down the runway.  I'm very happy with the new TriQ2 and promissed Brad that I will take good care of her.  For pics of my new bird see:
http://s196. photobucket. com/albums/ aa266/q2robertso n/?action= view&current= NewStripe009. jpg
http://s196. photobucket. com/albums/ aa266/q2robertso n/?action= view&current= NewStripe012. jpg
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Re: The Old Gray Editors Quickie

Jim Patillo
 

4QC.................Fork you Charlie! I love it. You ARE a man of many talents. Thank you again for your long contibution to our planes.

JP

--- In Q-LIST@..., JMasal@... wrote:

To answer Patillo's post, my engineless Quickie has been residing in my
hangar for many years now. It is on the FAA register as N44QC (at the time I
was flying King Airs and was irregularly ticked off at some controllers so
my N# would allow me to report: "Roger, fork you, Charlie." (You old guys
know how I am, Yes?). My bod is a load but the plane was light. I topped out
at 117 mph but only 200 fpm climb. I didn't like the battery dependent
ignition so I parked it after test.

Now the rest of the story is that Crouch helped me acquire a new Rotax 503
some years ago but I moved on to sumpin' else in life and haven't gotten
one of those Round TUIT's yet. And the plane is still under cover and
sneering at me when I work around it. Lucky for me it caint spit!

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Re: Level attitude

jon@...
 

I've never flown an Onan powered Q1, mine started life with a 503. I doubt an Onan Q1 would even lift my big behind off the ground....

Between the 503 and VW, the VW was far and away my favorite.

Working from old memory here (so don't quote me) but it seems like I ran my Q1 up to 175mph straight and level with the VW (and always cruised at red-line). Kinda seems like the 503 ran out of steam at about 150-155 mph - but that is mainly due to limited prop pitch which had to be set that way for decent climb.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: PROPELLERS@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 10:16am
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Level attitude

Jon, Thanks for the great info. It sounds like from the initial letter I
responded to is you still liked the Onan better than your 1835 VW.

We built propellers for the Global engine and considered it about 35 hp.
The new engine Scott Casler sells claims 45 hp but we have yet manufactured
a propeller for it so I'm not sure of the claim but for a little bartering
I can have one. My thought is if the Onan or perhaps the Suburu industrial
engine will fly the plane fine why spend all the modification time when the
plane could be flying in a couple weeks.

I would really enjoy flying the Q1 as fast a structurally able. We
manufactured propellers for a company called AED. They used a 38 hp 2 stroke, the
customers could exceed red line in level flight 170+ mph. This would be so
much fun but I prefer 4 stroke engines.

Thanks again for the information.


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Lonnie Prince
Prince Aircraft Company
6774 Providence St.
P.O. Box 2669
Whitehouse, Ohio 43571
Tel. 419-877-5557
Fax 419-877-5564


In a message dated 6/9/2009 11:19:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jon@... writes:






Hi Lonnie,

Yes, 1835cc, four-cylinder VW in a Q1. There have been at least four of us
that have flown with this engine (though different displacements)Yes,
1835cc, four-cylinder VW in a Q1. There have been at least four of us that have
flown with this engine (though different displacements)<WBR>. Two back
east long ago and Tom Solan (up in ID now) more recently (Tom's was a 1600cc
4-cyl). The trick i

Several folks have proven over the years that the Onan works. However;
IMO, you gotta be light and fly at lower altitudes. I'm not known for being a
lightweight and, at the time, was flying out of a 4,000' MSL airport in
Montana.

Several people installed the Global 1/2 VW engine years ago (Jim Masal
being one). I don't want to speak for anyone (especially Jimmy!!!! ;-) ) but I
recall from the newsletters and previous discussions that performance was
not as expected. Seems like they were getting about 200 fpm better climb
than the Onan but about the same speed. Someone correct me if that is wrong.
Based on this, I never felt that the 1/2 VW was a good option.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: _PROPELLERS@... (mailto:PROPELLERS@...)
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:33am
To: _Q-LIST@... (mailto:Q-LIST@...)
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Level attitude

Thanks to Jon and the other responses to my questions.

Jon did you install the 1835 VW in the Q1? I was considering the 45 hp
1/2 VW for higher top speeds but if the performance was adequate with the
18-22 hp Onan then perhaps I will just fly the Onan for a while.

Always open for suggestions from those that flew the Q1.

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P.O. Box 2669
Whitehouse, Ohio 43571
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Re: Level attitude

Mike Perry
 

Wow, Jimmy writes TWICE while I'm composing the note below. I've got to get the voice recognition software so I can keep up with him!

Mike Perry

Mike Perry wrote:



Jon:

Hopefully Jimmy will speak up here (he occasionally has an opinion to
share) but I thought the problem with the Global 1/2 VW was the company
more than the engine. The few engines they produced actually flew OK.
(Jimmy, please hurry, otherwise I've got to dig in the old newsletters
again when I could be sanding!)

The Hummel Bird climbs about 600 fpm with a gross at 525 and a 37 hp
1/2 VW. Might be a good match for the Quickie. (Sport Pilot, March 09)

Mike Perry

jon@... <mailto:jon%40finleyweb.net> wrote:



{snip}.

Several people installed the Global 1/2 VW engine years ago (Jim Masal
being one). I don't want to speak for anyone (especially Jimmy!!!! ;-)
) but I recall from the newsletters and previous discussions that
performance was not as expected. Seems like they were getting about
200 fpm better climb than the Onan but about the same speed. Someone
correct me if that is wrong. Based on this, I never felt that the 1/2
VW was a good option.

Jon

___
_,___


Re: Level attitude

Mike Perry
 

Jon:

Hopefully Jimmy will speak up here (he occasionally has an opinion to share) but I thought the problem with the Global 1/2 VW was the company more than the engine. The few engines they produced actually flew OK. (Jimmy, please hurry, otherwise I've got to dig in the old newsletters again when I could be sanding!)

The Hummel Bird climbs about 600 fpm with a gross at 525 and a 37 hp 1/2 VW. Might be a good match for the Quickie. (Sport Pilot, March 09)

Mike Perry

jon@... wrote:




{snip}.

Several people installed the Global 1/2 VW engine years ago (Jim Masal being one). I don't want to speak for anyone (especially Jimmy!!!! ;-) ) but I recall from the newsletters and previous discussions that performance was not as expected. Seems like they were getting about 200 fpm better climb than the Onan but about the same speed. Someone correct me if that is wrong. Based on this, I never felt that the 1/2 VW was a good option.

Jon

___


Re: Level attitude

jon@...
 

Hi Lonnie,

Yes, 1835cc, four-cylinder VW in a Q1. There have been at least four of us that have flown with this engine (though different displacements). Two back east long ago and Tom Solan (up in ID now) more recently (Tom's was a 1600cc 4-cyl). The trick is to keep it as light as possible and as far aft as possible (I moved my firewall aft two inches - or was it four inches.... I don't recall now).

Several folks have proven over the years that the Onan works. However; IMO, you gotta be light and fly at lower altitudes. I'm not known for being a lightweight and, at the time, was flying out of a 4,000' MSL airport in Montana.

Several people installed the Global 1/2 VW engine years ago (Jim Masal being one). I don't want to speak for anyone (especially Jimmy!!!! ;-) ) but I recall from the newsletters and previous discussions that performance was not as expected. Seems like they were getting about 200 fpm better climb than the Onan but about the same speed. Someone correct me if that is wrong. Based on this, I never felt that the 1/2 VW was a good option.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: PROPELLERS@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:33am
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Level attitude

Thanks to Jon and the other responses to my questions.

Jon did you install the 1835 VW in the Q1? I was considering the 45 hp
1/2 VW for higher top speeds but if the performance was adequate with the
18-22 hp Onan then perhaps I will just fly the Onan for a while.

Always open for suggestions from those that flew the Q1.


_http://www.princeaircraft.com_ (http://www.princeaircraft.com/)

Lonnie Prince
Prince Aircraft Company
6774 Providence St.
P.O. Box 2669
Whitehouse, Ohio 43571
Tel. 419-877-5557
Fax 419-877-5564


Re: Level attitude

bob <bob2@...>
 

As I recall the cause was the use of the wrong material. The t-tail
was fastened to the fuselage with a layup of carbon fiber which had no
peel strength. It peeled which allowed the t-tail to tip back so the
airplane went nose down./Bruce

On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:15, Doug Humble wrote:



Here's an article I found on the web about how Tom Jewett died. Not
in a Q1.

http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/N82X-Jewett.htm

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
From: PROPELLERS@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Level attitude

Patillo,

I just picked up a Q1 with the Onan engine. The plane hasn't flown for
about 10 years so I plan to restore it to flying condition and
possibly install
a 1/2 VW 45 hp by Casler that weights about the same as the Onan.

You made this statement in a past post: "After Tom Jewett died I lost
interest in anything Gene Shehan had to say and discontinued my Q
subscription."

Would you mind expanding on the statement..I'm not aware how Jewett
died..was it in a Q1 and is there concern about the Q1 that I should
be aware of?

Thanks,

_http://www.princeaircraft.com_ (http://www.princeaircraft.com/)

Lonnie Prince
Prince Aircraft Company
6774 Providence St.
P.O. Box 2669
Whitehouse, Ohio 43571
Tel. 419-877-5557
Fax 419-877-5564

In a message dated 6/8/2009 9:19:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
logistics_engineering@... writes:

After Tom Jewett died I lost interest in anything Gene Shehan had to
say
and discontinued my Q subscription.

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Re: Level attitude

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Yep! What was life like before Google? Anyone? Bueller?

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A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: jon@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Level attitude






Apparently what they say about great minds thinking alike is true....

Jon

:-)

-----Original Message-----
From: "Doug Humble" <hawkidoug@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:15am
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Level attitude

Here's an article I found on the web about how Tom Jewett died. Not in a Q1.

http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/N82X-Jewett.htm

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974


Re: Level attitude

jon@...
 

Apparently what they say about great minds thinking alike is true....

Jon

:-)

-----Original Message-----
From: "Doug Humble" <hawkidoug@...>
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:15am
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Level attitude

Here's an article I found on the web about how Tom Jewett died. Not in a Q1.

http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/N82X-Jewett.htm

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974


Re: Level attitude

quickheads2 <groups@...>
 

Tom Jewett died during testing of "Free Enterprise" an airplane that was designed by QAC to fly arround the world unrefueled. After Tom's death Gene Sheehan seemed to lack the bedside manner needed to run a company, especially one that required constant user support.

I spoke with Gene on the phone recently, and he was grumpy as ever and unwilling to talk about QAC or the Quickie designs.

There is a little bit of info posted about this in their 17th newsletter:

http://www.quickheads.com/quickie-newsletter-17-page-1.html

But the crash was unrealated to any of the Quickie designs. Ultimately, Dick Rutan and Jeana Yager completed the first round the world unrefueled flight in Voyager.

Hope this helps. Please let me know.

Thanks,
Dan Yager
Q-200 Under Repair
www.quickheads.com

--- In Q-LIST@..., PROPELLERS@... wrote:

Patillo,

I just picked up a Q1 with the Onan engine. The plane hasn't flown for
about 10 years so I plan to restore it to flying condition and possibly install
a 1/2 VW 45 hp by Casler that weights about the same as the Onan.

You made this statement in a past post: "After Tom Jewett died I lost
interest in anything Gene Shehan had to say and discontinued my Q subscription."

Would you mind expanding on the statement..I'm not aware how Jewett
died..was it in a Q1 and is there concern about the Q1 that I should be aware of?

Thanks,


_http://www.princeaircraft.com_ (http://www.princeaircraft.com/)

Lonnie Prince
Prince Aircraft Company
6774 Providence St.
P.O. Box 2669
Whitehouse, Ohio 43571
Tel. 419-877-5557
Fax 419-877-5564


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logistics_engineering@... writes:

After Tom Jewett died I lost interest in anything Gene Shehan had to say
and discontinued my Q subscription.



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Re: Level attitude

jon@...
 

Hi Lonnie,

I'll respond cause Jim takes a really long time to type a message using that one finger, hunt and peck approach.... ;-)

Here is a pretty good link to the info:
[http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/N82X-Jewett.htm] http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/N82X-Jewett.htm

In short, Jewett was killed in the crash of their "around the world without stopping" aircraft.

I flew a Q1 for about 500 hours and am aware of NO dangerous problems with it. In fact, it probably saved my bacon more times that I saved it. I flew with a Rotax 503 and 1835cc VW and MUCH, MUCH preferred the 4-stroke engine.

Jon Finley
N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22 DD
[http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx] http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx

-----Original Message-----
From: PROPELLERS@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:20am
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Level attitude

Patillo,

I just picked up a Q1 with the Onan engine. The plane hasn't flown for
about 10 years so I plan to restore it to flying condition and possibly install
a 1/2 VW 45 hp by Casler that weights about the same as the Onan.

You made this statement in a past post: "After Tom Jewett died I lost
interest in anything Gene Shehan had to say and discontinued my Q subscription."

Would you mind expanding on the statement..I'm not aware how Jewett
died..was it in a Q1 and is there concern about the Q1 that I should be aware of?

Thanks,


_http://www.princeaircraft.com_ (http://www.princeaircraft.com/)

Lonnie Prince
Prince Aircraft Company
6774 Providence St.
P.O. Box 2669
Whitehouse, Ohio 43571
Tel. 419-877-5557
Fax 419-877-5564


In a message dated 6/8/2009 9:19:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
logistics_engineering@... writes:

After Tom Jewett died I lost interest in anything Gene Shehan had to say
and discontinued my Q subscription.


Re: Level attitude

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

Here's an article I found on the web about how Tom Jewett died. Not in a Q1.

http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/N82X-Jewett.htm

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

----- Original Message -----
From: PROPELLERS@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Level attitude





Patillo,

I just picked up a Q1 with the Onan engine. The plane hasn't flown for
about 10 years so I plan to restore it to flying condition and possibly install
a 1/2 VW 45 hp by Casler that weights about the same as the Onan.

You made this statement in a past post: "After Tom Jewett died I lost
interest in anything Gene Shehan had to say and discontinued my Q subscription."

Would you mind expanding on the statement..I'm not aware how Jewett
died..was it in a Q1 and is there concern about the Q1 that I should be aware of?

Thanks,


_http://www.princeaircraft.com_ (http://www.princeaircraft.com/)

Lonnie Prince
Prince Aircraft Company
6774 Providence St.
P.O. Box 2669
Whitehouse, Ohio 43571
Tel. 419-877-5557
Fax 419-877-5564

In a message dated 6/8/2009 9:19:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
logistics_engineering@... writes:

After Tom Jewett died I lost interest in anything Gene Shehan had to say
and discontinued my Q subscription.

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Re: The Old Gray Editors Quickie

JMasal@...
 

To answer Patillo's post, my engineless Quickie has been residing in my
hangar for many years now. It is on the FAA register as N44QC (at the time I
was flying King Airs and was irregularly ticked off at some controllers so
my N# would allow me to report: "Roger, fork you, Charlie." (You old guys
know how I am, Yes?). My bod is a load but the plane was light. I topped out
at 117 mph but only 200 fpm climb. I didn't like the battery dependent
ignition so I parked it after test.

Now the rest of the story is that Crouch helped me acquire a new Rotax 503
some years ago but I moved on to sumpin' else in life and haven't gotten
one of those Round TUIT's yet. And the plane is still under cover and
sneering at me when I work around it. Lucky for me it caint spit!

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Re: 1/2 VW

PROPELLERS@...
 

Mr. Masal,

Thank you, what performance had you experienced with the Onan 18 or 22 hp?
And did the rain also cause the Anus Stretch issue? Do you feel the VG's
were beneficial?


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In a message dated 6/9/2009 12:05:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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I wrote about flight testing the Global 1/2 VW in a Q-Talk of the time, but

basicaly I was testing it for the builder. I got a good 120-125 mph out of
it (expected more) and a more comfy climb (prolly a coupla hunnert fpm as
Jon sez). I happened to fly it thru moderate rain without VG's and it lost
about 10mph but kept on truckin'. I felt it was a suitable powerplant.

As a "full-figured" man I test flew my Onan Quickie in 90+ Texas temps and
I DO still have some stretch marks around my anus but it was a lot of fun
however not as much as a man the size of Terry Crouch would have!

j.

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Re: Level attitude

PROPELLERS@...
 

Jon, Thanks for the great info. It sounds like from the initial letter I
responded to is you still liked the Onan better than your 1835 VW.

We built propellers for the Global engine and considered it about 35 hp.
The new engine Scott Casler sells claims 45 hp but we have yet manufactured
a propeller for it so I'm not sure of the claim but for a little bartering
I can have one. My thought is if the Onan or perhaps the Suburu industrial
engine will fly the plane fine why spend all the modification time when the
plane could be flying in a couple weeks.

I would really enjoy flying the Q1 as fast a structurally able. We
manufactured propellers for a company called AED. They used a 38 hp 2 stroke, the
customers could exceed red line in level flight 170+ mph. This would be so
much fun but I prefer 4 stroke engines.

Thanks again for the information.


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P.O. Box 2669
Whitehouse, Ohio 43571
Tel. 419-877-5557
Fax 419-877-5564

In a message dated 6/9/2009 11:19:17 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jon@... writes:






Hi Lonnie,

Yes, 1835cc, four-cylinder VW in a Q1. There have been at least four of us
that have flown with this engine (though different displacements)Yes,
1835cc, four-cylinder VW in a Q1. There have been at least four of us that have
flown with this engine (though different displacements)<WBR>. Two back
east long ago and Tom Solan (up in ID now) more recently (Tom's was a 1600cc
4-cyl). The trick i

Several folks have proven over the years that the Onan works. However;
IMO, you gotta be light and fly at lower altitudes. I'm not known for being a
lightweight and, at the time, was flying out of a 4,000' MSL airport in
Montana.

Several people installed the Global 1/2 VW engine years ago (Jim Masal
being one). I don't want to speak for anyone (especially Jimmy!!!! ;-) ) but I
recall from the newsletters and previous discussions that performance was
not as expected. Seems like they were getting about 200 fpm better climb
than the Onan but about the same speed. Someone correct me if that is wrong.
Based on this, I never felt that the 1/2 VW was a good option.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: _PROPELLERS@... (mailto:PROPELLERS@...)
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 8:33am
To: _Q-LIST@... (mailto:Q-LIST@...)
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Level attitude

Thanks to Jon and the other responses to my questions.

Jon did you install the 1835 VW in the Q1? I was considering the 45 hp
1/2 VW for higher top speeds but if the performance was adequate with the
18-22 hp Onan then perhaps I will just fly the Onan for a while.

Always open for suggestions from those that flew the Q1.

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Whitehouse, Ohio 43571
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Re: 1/2 VW

JMasal@...
 

I wrote about flight testing the Global 1/2 VW in a Q-Talk of the time, but
basicaly I was testing it for the builder. I got a good 120-125 mph out of
it (expected more) and a more comfy climb (prolly a coupla hunnert fpm as
Jon sez). I happened to fly it thru moderate rain without VG's and it lost
about 10mph but kept on truckin'. I felt it was a suitable powerplant.

As a "full-figured" man I test flew my Onan Quickie in 90+ Texas temps and
I DO still have some stretch marks around my anus but it was a lot of fun
however not as much as a man the size of Terry Crouch would have!

j.

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Re: Level attitude

PROPELLERS@...
 

Thanks to Jon and the other responses to my questions.

Jon did you install the 1835 VW in the Q1? I was considering the 45 hp
1/2 VW for higher top speeds but if the performance was adequate with the
18-22 hp Onan then perhaps I will just fly the Onan for a while.

Always open for suggestions from those that flew the Q1.


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Lonnie Prince
Prince Aircraft Company
6774 Providence St.
P.O. Box 2669
Whitehouse, Ohio 43571
Tel. 419-877-5557
Fax 419-877-5564

In a message dated 6/9/2009 10:19:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jon@... writes:






Hi Lonnie,

I'll respond cause Jim takes a really long time to type a message using
that one finger, hunt and peck approach.... ;-)

Here is a pretty good link to the info:
[_http://www.check-http://www.chehttp://www.http://www_
(http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/N82X-Jewett.htm) ]
_http://www.check-http://www.chehttp://www.http://www_ (http://www.check-six.com/Crash_Sites/N82X-Jewett.htm)

In short, Jewett was killed in the crash of their "around the world
without stopping" aircraft.

I flew a Q1 for about 500 hours and am aware of NO dangerous problems with
it. In fact, it probably saved my bacon more times that I saved it. I flew
with a Rotax 503 and 1835cc VW and MUCH, MUCH preferred the 4-stroke
engine.

Jon Finley
N314JF - Q2 - Subaru EJ-22 DD
[_http://www.finleywehttp://www.finlhttp_
(http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx) ] _http://www.finleywehttp://www.finlhttp_
(http://www.finleyweb.net/Q2Subaru.aspx)

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From: _PROPELLERS@... (mailto:PROPELLERS@...)
Sent: Tuesday, June 9, 2009 7:20am
To: _Q-LIST@... (mailto:Q-LIST@...)
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Level attitude

Patillo,

I just picked up a Q1 with the Onan engine. The plane hasn't flown for
about 10 years so I plan to restore it to flying condition and possibly
install
a 1/2 VW 45 hp by Casler that weights about the same as the Onan.

You made this statement in a past post: "After Tom Jewett died I lost
interest in anything Gene Shehan had to say and discontinued my Q
subscription.i

Would you mind expanding on the statement..I'Would you mind expanding on
died..was it in a Q1 and is there concern about the Q1 that I should be
aware of?

Thanks,

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Prince Aircraft Company
6774 Providence St.
P.O. Box 2669
Whitehouse, Ohio 43571
Tel. 419-877-5557
Fax 419-877-5564

In a message dated 6/8/2009 9:19:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
_logistics_engineerilogistics__ (mailto:logistics_engineering@...)
writes:

After Tom Jewett died I lost interest in anything Gene Shehan had to say
and discontinued my Q subscription.

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Re: Level attitude

PROPELLERS@...
 

Patillo,

I just picked up a Q1 with the Onan engine. The plane hasn't flown for
about 10 years so I plan to restore it to flying condition and possibly install
a 1/2 VW 45 hp by Casler that weights about the same as the Onan.

You made this statement in a past post: "After Tom Jewett died I lost
interest in anything Gene Shehan had to say and discontinued my Q subscription."

Would you mind expanding on the statement..I'm not aware how Jewett
died..was it in a Q1 and is there concern about the Q1 that I should be aware of?

Thanks,


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Lonnie Prince
Prince Aircraft Company
6774 Providence St.
P.O. Box 2669
Whitehouse, Ohio 43571
Tel. 419-877-5557
Fax 419-877-5564

In a message dated 6/8/2009 9:19:01 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
logistics_engineering@... writes:

After Tom Jewett died I lost interest in anything Gene Shehan had to say
and discontinued my Q subscription.



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Re: Level attitude

Jim Patillo
 

Masal,

I know you had a Q1 but never knew the details regarding it or ever saw any pictures. How many hours did you fly it? What happened to the plane?

After Tom Jewett died I lost interest in anything Gene Shehan had to say and discontinued my Q subscription.

Patillo

--- In Q-LIST@..., JMasal@... wrote:

I appreciate Patillo's comments. I don't know how the 2 placers were set
but the Quickie fuse layout had the firewall vertical. I wasn't sure about
the Q2/200 but it made sense that it was the same. IF the builder put it in
vertical, then 90 degrees to it should be level. It ought to at least be
close.

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