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Home at last

jnmarstall@...
 

The Q is home. The Q is home.
At last, the Q is home.
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Re: requesting photo

Paul Buckley
 

Well?

----- Original Message -----
From: JMasal@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 8:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] requesting photo


I did.








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Q1 & Tri-Q on Ebay

iceobar <ascanielsen@...>
 


Made it home

Sam Kittle
 

I left Hutchinson, KS at 9:00 am yesterday under a high thin overcast. Made
a quick stop at Starbucks in Emporia for a little caffeine and arrived in
Kansas City at lunch time. The Hertz rental car handled this leg of the
trip well. My 5:35 flight on Southwest didn't leave until 6:30, had some
light chop on the decent into LA but the rest of the trip was smooth. My
truck was so dirty from sitting in the parking lot at Sacramento that I
thought it must belong to someone else. I arrived home shortly after
midnight. Sure hope I will be able to make this trip in my Q-200 next year.
Many thanks to Doug and everyone who took the time to descend on Beatrice
this weekend.



Best Regards,

Sam


Livermore Fly In?

Bruce Crain
 

Hey Allen,
I need to request all of my 2010 vacations before Oct. 15. Paul Fisher and I toyed with the possibility of flying out to the Livermore fly-In next year. Would you have the dates for that yet?
Great seeing you again this year at Beatrice!
Blessings
Bruce Crain


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Re: requesting photo

JMasal@...
 

I did.


requesting photo

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

If anyone took a photo of Jay measuring a Q wing, please email it to me off list at: HawkiDoug@...

Thanks!

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974


Re: Vortex Generator spacing templates

Michael Quinn
 

I would draw a ruler and put "registration marks" on the page with your drawing or paint program (or cad before you output it to jpg, tiff, or whatever). I put a border around the page with inches (or cm) on at least 2 sides (for vertical and horizontal comparisons). I have done this with paint even and then print it out - test it, then check the size of the VG against the real thing - then check your registration marks that you drew on it (to see if they were exact to a physical ruler) - then you would be able to share the giff, tiff, or jpg - the person recieving it would be able to see if their printout was accurate by the registration marks on the printout and their own ruler (if incorrect they could scale the printout up or down until they got a printout that matched their ruler). I hope this helps!



M.



To: Q-LIST@...
From: wypaul2001@...
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2009 11:03:41 +0000
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Vortex Generator spacing templates





The reason for not providing the jpg is that it will not print to the proper size. There are several free readers available and then check the measurement, it should be 10 1/8" overall. I will change the files and add this measurement this evening. If all else fails contact me with a fax number and I will fax you a copy if you have the GU canard.

Paul

--- In Q-LIST@..., "HAROLD DIRKS" <hardot7776@...> wrote:

Paul,

How about converting these files to jpg format so those of us without CAD software can see them?


----- Original Message -----
From: Paul S<mailto:wypaul2001@...>
To: Q-LIST@...<mailto:Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:47 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Vortex Generator spacing templates


I have downloaded a couple of vortex generator templates for the GU canard. One with wide spacing and one with narrow spacing. I am using the wide spacing suggested by Keith Welsh that uses about 1/2 as many generators and it is doing the job very good.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/>

Paul














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Re: Made it home finally

Fisher Paul A. <fisherpaula@...>
 

I look forward to your report Jay. Hopefully it will inspire others (Alan) to finish their airplanes too.

Glad you made it home safely.

- Paul

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Jay Scheevel
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 22:44
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Made it home finally



... snip...

For now it looks pretty interesting.I'll keep you posted.

Cheers,

Jay


Re: Vortex Generator spacing templates

Paul Spackman
 

The reason for not providing the jpg is that it will not print to the proper size. There are several free readers available and then check the measurement, it should be 10 1/8" overall. I will change the files and add this measurement this evening. If all else fails contact me with a fax number and I will fax you a copy if you have the GU canard.

Paul

--- In Q-LIST@..., "HAROLD DIRKS" <hardot7776@...> wrote:

Paul,

How about converting these files to jpg format so those of us without CAD software can see them?


----- Original Message -----
From: Paul S<mailto:wypaul2001@...>
To: Q-LIST@...<mailto:Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:47 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Vortex Generator spacing templates


I have downloaded a couple of vortex generator templates for the GU canard. One with wide spacing and one with narrow spacing. I am using the wide spacing suggested by Keith Welsh that uses about 1/2 as many generators and it is doing the job very good.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/>

Paul







Fuelventure at Copperstate

ERacerVinn@...
 

Our fuel efficiency contest at COPPERSTATE is moving ahead. Due to the
time limitation of weighing aircraft, entries will be limited to 25
airplanes. If you want to compete, please send me an e-mail to reserve your slot in
the competition.

Thanks,

For more info:

_www.fuelventure.org_ (http://www.fuelventure.org)

Thanks,
Bruce Vinnola
ERacer N5ZW
Q1 plans


Made it home finally

Jay Scheevel <scheevel@...>
 

Hi guys,



I finally made it home today, and none too soon because it is my wife's
birthday. Spent two days weathered in at Canon City (west of Pueblo), but
did enjoy it because I got to hang out at the airport with some interesting
guys and I always bring my work along on my computer, so I actually got some
work done. I could have done without the two additional days of hotel,
though.



Thanks many times over to Doug for putting up such a great show and to all
of you guys who work so hard to bring your beautiful planes out to this
event. Your enthusiasm really inspires me (and Alan too).



During my layover in Canon City, I did a little reduction of the some of the
data that I gathered (with some help from everyone on all of your planes). I
will assemble a complete technical report, and will send a short advance
newsletter report to Doug, if he will let me know when he needs it to get it
into the next newsletter. I want to thank all the people who let me paw
over your plane. I also want to stress that, since all of the Q's I
measured are successfully flying and the pilots are not afraid to take them
cross country in challenging conditions, we must conclude that the
population of data I have gathered is a reasonable demonstration of
acceptable, minimum demonstrated ranges of airworthy tolerances. Just a few
early highlights: I gave up measuring all BL's on both sides after doing
several airplanes, in order for me to use the limited time to add more
aircraft to the sample, but the ones that I did measure (left versus right)
tell me that we can successfully fly with as much as 1 degree of incidence
difference between left and right wings. Of course this means a roll
tendency, but that can be successfully handled with rig and trim after the
fact. As far as wing to canard relative incidences, I do not have absolute
numbers, but it looks like the variation of relative incidences is almost 6
degrees. This is to say that if you hold the canard angle of incidence as
constant, then the range of incidences of the wings that I measured varies
by as much as 6 degrees from aircraft to aircraft. This is a much larger
range than I expected and once again indicates that a successfully flying Q
can has a large tolerance for relative angle of attack. I will be able to
comment more on this in a full article and hopefully correlate the numbers
with performance. I did not get a chance to measure Bruce Crain's (wing or
canard), Jon Finley's (wing or canard), Dave Dugas' (wing or canard) or Paul
Spackman's (canard), so there is plenty more to do. I will try to bring my
device to each fly-in and gather more data. For now it looks pretty
interesting.I'll keep you posted.



Cheers,

Jay


Re: Still out here!!!

Bruce Crain
 

CLOSE BUT NO CIGAR!
Sorry Jerry I couldn't resist. At least you had your entourage in place for plan B! That girl's gotta' love ya drivin' all that way and takin' such good care of you. Nice pick!
Bruce and Joanne

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Re: Still

JMasal@...
 

Got to thinkin about Thayer (who really should have been tarred and
feathered) and his email tag which is: millenniumflyer. I believe he should be
compelled to change it to 3rdmillenniumflyer. Surely he could get it done by
then.

j.


Re: Home safe in KORE

Dave Dugas
 

So,Kevin is the one I should thank........thanks Kevin.  Really it gave all of us a chance to check everything out.  Great to see everyone.  
 
Dave Dugas

--- On Tue, 10/6/09, Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...> wrote:


From: Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Home safe in KORE
To: Q-LIST@...
Date: Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 8:25 AM


 



Great to hear you are back at home safely Dave. As a host, it is a thrill to have guys travel from all over to make the event. I'm actually glad that Kevin Boddicker broke the hangar door so we could visit with you a bit longer before you depart for home.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove. net
Omaha NE
N25974
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Dugas
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. com
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:26 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Home safe in KORE

Rod and I landed at 4 pm local after a one stop flight from Findlay OH. Great flying for the most part...rain the last half hour. The landing at KORE was almost my last one ,as the winds were gusting from every direction including up and down. First try ended with a go-around, second try was intended to be another go-around but a moderate slam to the runway and chop of the throttle, and thankfully it stayed straight with no damage. Trip finished. The Revmaster performed perfectly and the Tru-Trak auto pilot got a real good workout and never complained once. Doug, thanks for a good time. I just wished I could have been there longer.

Dave Dugas



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Re: Vortex Generator spacing templates

rick_nordgarden
 

--- In Q-LIST@..., "HAROLD DIRKS" <hardot7776@...> wrote:

Paul,

How about converting these files to jpg format so those of us without CAD software can see them?
SolidWorks offers a FREE viewer that shows you .dwg and .dxf files. Prints 'em out full-scale, too...

http://www.edrawingsviewer.com/pages/programs/download/

Rick Nordgarden
Council Bluffs IA
Dragonfly MkIIH under construction


Re: Vortex Generator spacing templates

HAROLD DIRKS
 

Paul,

How about converting these files to jpg format so those of us without CAD software can see them?

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul S<mailto:wypaul2001@...>
To: Q-LIST@...<mailto:Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:47 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Vortex Generator spacing templates


I have downloaded a couple of vortex generator templates for the GU canard. One with wide spacing and one with narrow spacing. I am using the wide spacing suggested by Keith Welsh that uses about 1/2 as many generators and it is doing the job very good.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/>

Paul


Still out here!!!

jnmarstall@...
 

Nancy just drove up to elizabethton TN to get me. Wx stopped me for 2 days only 50 miles from home
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


Vortex Generator spacing templates

Paul Spackman
 

I have downloaded a couple of vortex generator templates for the GU canard. One with wide spacing and one with narrow spacing. I am using the wide spacing suggested by Keith Welsh that uses about 1/2 as many generators and it is doing the job very good.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Q-LIST/files/VG%20Templates/

Paul


Re: Revmaster R-2100D Turbo high altitude Expereince?

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

Hey Bruce,
I saw a Dragonfly on the ramp in Santa Fe a few days ago. He's based there so call Sierra Aviation and see if you can get in contact with the owner. Dragonflys and Q2's are somewhat similar.
Mike Q200 N3QP
http://www.warnerair.com/q200


bin.echo wrote:

Bruce,

Is that at Gross weight? What altitude were you able to achieve on your normally aspirated R-2100? (The high compression version) What clime rate are we talking about on take off from the high altitude air ports?

Keep in mind I'm asking about an R-2100 on a Q2. It has VGs but that still might not be enough to make up for the GU canard compared to the Q200.

Having owned one, a local pilot was very dubious about the ability of the R-2100 at to cut it at 6000 MSL + But perhaps there was something wrong with eh configuration of his engine? I'm trying to collect as many data points as I can here.

-Aaron
(Investigating Q2 ownership in Albuquerque)


--- In Q-LIST@..., "jcrain2@..." <jcrain2@...> wrote:


My TriQ200 has been through Gallup, NM Winslow, AZ. Belin, NM and did just fine. It did better before I rebuilt the engine and lost the high compression pistons.
Bruce