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Re: Earnest cowl/Jerry's plenum

Clive Clapham
 

Hi you guys

Condolences to Dan.

Mark, nice cowl. What are the numbers on your Prince prop?

What were the numbers of your previous prop? When I went from a fine pitched prop to a p-tip similar to yours my test pilot said it floated at lot due to the coarse prop. I also have a belly board, and it doesn't make much difference, and wouldn't bother a S turn works well and cost less.

Has any one else found the belly board ineffective or not?

I think plans are in the files section or Jon Finley's web site.

Clive gobxoy

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, "Mark" <mforgione@...> wrote:

Hi all,
First of all sorry to hear of your loss Dan,i know what you are going through as i lost my Mum only one week before Christmas.
I have uploaded some pics of the new cowl/plenum installation with oil cooler,new ECI cylinders and Lycon high compression pistons,Also running Dual P-Mag electronic ignitions,i know some don't agree about coolers but here in Australia we get long hot summers so it gives me piece of mind.
I now find slowing it on final and the float is much longer,so i am now thinking of fitting a belly board as i dont have one to stop the looong float problem that now exists,has anyone got pics and dimensions of there belly boards to share??

Thanks in advance
Mark Forgione
Flying Q200
Australia


Earnest cowl/Jerry's plenum

mforgione
 

Hi all,
First of all sorry to hear of your loss Dan,i know what you are going through as i lost my Mum only one week before Christmas.
I have uploaded some pics of the new cowl/plenum installation with oil cooler,new ECI cylinders and Lycon high compression pistons,Also running Dual P-Mag electronic ignitions,i know some don't agree about coolers but here in Australia we get long hot summers so it gives me piece of mind.
I now find slowing it on final and the float is much longer,so i am now thinking of fitting a belly board as i dont have one to stop the looong float problem that now exists,has anyone got pics and dimensions of there belly boards to share??

Thanks in advance
Mark Forgione
Flying Q200
Australia


Re: My father. . .

Bruce Crain
 

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To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] My father. . .
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 19:22:45 -0800 (PST)

My condolences to Dan
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Re: My father. . .

kr2flyer1986
 

So sorry to hear of your loss. Our prayers our with you.
Bob Clark

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, quickheads2 <groups@dvdme.com> wrote:

From: quickheads2 <groups@dvdme.com>
Subject: [Q-LIST] My father. . .
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 2:09 PM







 









All,

My father passed away yesterday, so I will probably be out of contact for the better part of the week. I apologize. If you need anything put on the website, please send me an e-mail, and I will answer any requests early next week.



Like many of you, my father got me interested in aviation, and we attended Corvair College #14 together. I did a little write-up about it here:



http://www.quickhea ds.com/corvair- college-14. html



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Re: My father. . .

Phil Christiansen <rxforfun51@...>
 

Dan,

So sorry to hear of your loss.  My father just passed away a few weeks ago as well.  Like you, he got me interested in aviation, as he was in the
Marine Aircraft Group during WWII.  He was a powerplant mechanic during the war and gave me some much needed support during my own building process.  I'll always cherish the memory of us working side by side on my plane as I'm sure you will too.

Regards,

Phil Christiansen

--- On Mon, 2/8/10, quickheads2 <groups@dvdme.com> wrote:

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Subject: [Q-LIST] My father. . .
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 1:09 PM







 









All,

My father passed away yesterday, so I will probably be out of contact for the better part of the week. I apologize. If you need anything put on the website, please send me an e-mail, and I will answer any requests early next week.



Like many of you, my father got me interested in aviation, and we attended Corvair College #14 together. I did a little write-up about it here:



http://www.quickhea ds.com/corvair- college-14. html



Warm regards,

Dan Yager

QBA Editor

www.quickheads. com

























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Re: My father. . .

raoborg@...
 

Sorry to hear that Dan. Raoul

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From: "quickheads2" <groups@dvdme.com>
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Q-LIST] My father. . .
Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:09:43 -0000

All,
My father passed away yesterday, so I will probably be out of contact for the better part of the week. I apologize. If you need anything put on the website, please send me an e-mail, and I will answer any requests early next week.

Like many of you, my father got me interested in aviation, and we attended Corvair College #14 together. I did a little write-up about it here:

http://www.quickheads.com/corvair-college-14.html

Warm regards,
Dan Yager
QBA Editor
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Re: My father. . .

Paul Buckley
 

Condolences from the UK, Dan. Painful times.......

Paul B.


Quoting quickheads2 <groups@dvdme.com>:

All,
My father passed away yesterday, so I will probably be out of contact for the better part of the week. I apologize. If you need anything put on the website, please send me an e-mail, and I will answer any requests early next week.

Like many of you, my father got me interested in aviation, and we attended Corvair College #14 together. I did a little write-up about it here:

http://www.quickheads.com/corvair-college-14.html

Warm regards,
Dan Yager
QBA Editor
www.quickheads.com



Re: My father. . .

Steve <sham@...>
 

Sorry for your loss Dan..brings back memories of my father,a flight engineer on a B-17.

Steve Ham

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Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 2:09 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] My father. . .



All,
My father passed away yesterday, so I will probably be out of contact for the better part of the week. I apologize. If you need anything put on the website, please send me an e-mail, and I will answer any requests early next week.

Like many of you, my father got me interested in aviation, and we attended Corvair College #14 together. I did a little write-up about it here:

http://www.quickheads.com/corvair-college-14.html

Warm regards,
Dan Yager
QBA Editor
www.quickheads.com


My father. . .

quickheads2 <groups@...>
 

All,
My father passed away yesterday, so I will probably be out of contact for the better part of the week. I apologize. If you need anything put on the website, please send me an e-mail, and I will answer any requests early next week.

Like many of you, my father got me interested in aviation, and we attended Corvair College #14 together. I did a little write-up about it here:

http://www.quickheads.com/corvair-college-14.html

Warm regards,
Dan Yager
QBA Editor
www.quickheads.com


FW: COZY: Fly in

Patrick Panzera <panzera@...>
 

-----Original Message-----
From: cozy_builders@googlegroups.com [mailto:cozy_builders@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Dan Cruger
Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 8:34 AM
To: cozy_builders@googlegroups.com
Subject: COZY: Fly in

Hi all
For all those who do not know, there is going to be a canard fly in
at the end of the month. I have copied the info below. Sounds like we
are going to have a great turnout weather permitting. Any questions
please contact Victor Taylor, velocityoner@yahoo.com, 251-377-5216.
Thanks Dan Cruger

Saturday February 27, 2010 8:00AM

Trent Lott International, Pascagoula Mississippi (KPQL)

ATIS 135.175, Tower118.575, Ground 121.725,

Runway 17/35 6500X100

FBO: US Aviation 228-474-1000

Rental cars available through FBO and Enterprise

Fuel discounts, Fun and good food

All Canard drivers, builders and wannabes are invited. Drive in; fly
in, spam can, other plastic airplanes and all those that can attend
are welcome. The more experimental homebuilts of all types the better.
Our intention is to make this an annual event. If you think there is
the slightest chance that you will be attending please let us know so
we can prepare things like food, bathrooms and transportation for
everyone. We expect several equipment vendors and aircraft
manufactures to attend Including Velocity Aircraft and B&C
Specialties.

Please bring your own tie downs. Be sure to check the weather on the
coast, as fog is possible until about 9:00am at this time of year.

Plans call for hot dogs and burgers for lunch and boiled shrimp for
dinner. Later in the afternoon we plan to have a hanger talk
consisting of Terry Schubert's Canard Cooling power point and the FAA
Fast program.

Rental cars are available through the FBO and there are several gulf
coast casinos located less than 20 minutes from the airport.

We will provide transportation to the following local motels, all
located within 1 mile of the airport.

Holiday Inn Express, 228-474-2100

Best Western Flagship, 228-475-5000

Comfort Inn, 228-474-3600

Shular Inn, 228-475-8444

Quality Inn, 228-475-2477

LaQuinta, 228-475-2477

Econo Lodge, 228-475-9820

If you have any questions or comments please contact:

Brent Bourgeois, bjb3013@yahoo.com, 985-785-8299, Velocity N61VB

Victor Taylor, velocityoner@yahoo.com, 251-377-5216 Velocity N93DV


Re: Off topic

Clive Clapham
 

Mike

That's really neat, thanks for posting. No delete! from this recipient. There's so little happening on this list?

Clive gobxoy

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...> wrote:

If you guys want an Oscilloscope that is free and uses your computer
sound card then check out this link. If you don't know what an
Oscilloscope is then just delete this email!

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Off topic

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

If you guys want an Oscilloscope that is free and uses your computer sound card then check out this link. If you don't know what an Oscilloscope is then just delete this email!

http://www.zeitnitz.de/Christian/scope_en

Mike Q200 N3QP


Re: Reflexor hinge bushing QCSAR4 thickness?

Clive Clapham
 

Yeah, and there' plans in the files section!

Clive

gobxoy

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, "L.J. French" <LJFrench@...> wrote:

Sanjay,
I am not sure what version of the reflexor you are asking about with an
upper hinge busing, but I really like my "Doughnut" reflexor. It is so
elegant and simple with almost nothing to wear or fail. It is 3/8" thick.
LJ French


-----Original Message-----
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sdhall
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 7:25 AM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Q-LIST] Reflexor hinge bushing QCSAR4 thickness?

Can someone tell me the thickness of the Phenolic Reflexor upper hinge
bushing QCSAR4?
thanks
Sanjay









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Re: Reflexor hinge bushing QCSAR4 thickness?

L.J. French <LJFrench@...>
 

Sanjay,
I am not sure what version of the reflexor you are asking about with an
upper hinge busing, but I really like my "Doughnut" reflexor. It is so
elegant and simple with almost nothing to wear or fail. It is 3/8" thick.
LJ French

-----Original Message-----
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sdhall
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 7:25 AM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Q-LIST] Reflexor hinge bushing QCSAR4 thickness?

Can someone tell me the thickness of the Phenolic Reflexor upper hinge
bushing QCSAR4?
thanks
Sanjay









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Re: Reflexor hinge bushing QCSAR4 thickness?

Leon
 

I just happened to have that drawing on the pile next to me. It looks like QAC didn't specify a dimension but working back from the hardware and scaling from the drawing it looks like it was 1/4".

While the QAC version may be a more precise way of reflexing the ailerons with out introducing any roll component, Jon is right about the other design being much easier to fabricate. The asymmetrical displacement of the ailerons introduced by the other design is probably only theoretical. If your working from scratch I'd take a look at the simpler version before starting any fabrication......
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Leon

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, jon@... wrote:


Hi Sanjay,

I'm not positive but I think that part was to be quarter inch (.25") thick.

Hopefully this does not confuse things but have you seen the "improved" reflexor design published in Q-Talk?

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: "sdhall" <sdhall@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2010 6:25am
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Q-LIST] Reflexor hinge bushing QCSAR4 thickness?

Can someone tell me the thickness of the Phenolic Reflexor upper hinge
bushing QCSAR4?
thanks
Sanjay


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Don Crowl? . . .

quickheads2 <groups@...>
 

Is Don Crowl a member of this list? If so, please e-mail me off list. I got your check in the mail for your 2010 QBA membership, but I need your e-mail address in order to get you signed up.

Thanks,
Dan Yager
QBA Editor,
www.quickheads.com
quickheads_at_dvdme.com


Re: Reflexor hinge bushing QCSAR4 thickness?

jon@...
 

Hi Sanjay,

I'm not positive but I think that part was to be quarter inch (.25") thick.

Hopefully this does not confuse things but have you seen the "improved" reflexor design published in Q-Talk?

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: "sdhall" <sdhall@emergentsys.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2010 6:25am
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Q-LIST] Reflexor hinge bushing QCSAR4 thickness?

Can someone tell me the thickness of the Phenolic Reflexor upper hinge
bushing QCSAR4?
thanks
Sanjay


Reflexor hinge bushing QCSAR4 thickness?

sdhall <sdhall@...>
 

Can someone tell me the thickness of the Phenolic Reflexor upper hinge
bushing QCSAR4?
thanks
Sanjay


Re: Thermocouple compatible bulkhead connector?

Rick Hole
 

The high end ones certainly do, such as Garmin 900X or 1000. I have not
seen anything in the Dynons, GRT Avionics, JPI, etc that I have dealt with
in recent years to indicate they compensate. Or if they do it must be
internal rather than in the external connector where it really belongs. But
on the point, the precision of these instruments is well within what we need
to operate the engine effectively and safely.



Garmin engineers are upset if non-thermocouple connector pins are used and
insist this not be done (G900X installs). I agree with you, it is overkill
and over-expensive.



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From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
John Loram
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 8:28 PM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: Thermocouple compatible bulkhead connector?





Given that the pins in a connector are in such intimate contact, I'd be
surprised to learn that there's even one degree of temperature difference
between the junctions; less than the resolution of the measuring system.

It's my impression that all the modern electronic engine monitors
incorporate cold junction compensation within the instrument; it's done with
a thermistor and a few lines of code.

-john-

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Re: Thermocouple compatible bulkhead connector?

John Loram <johnl@...>
 

Given that the pins in a connector are in such intimate contact, I'd be
surprised to learn that there's even one degree of temperature difference
between the junctions; less than the resolution of the measuring system.

It's my impression that all the modern electronic engine monitors
incorporate cold junction compensation within the instrument; it's done with
a thermistor and a few lines of code.

-john-


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Rick
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 5:07 PM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Thermocouple compatible bulkhead connector?




Yes, but note that in a firewall connector you will expect a higher
temperature on the engine side compared to the cabin side. There will be an
error but it really is not significant. Even if you use the bulkhead
connector as the point where you convert the thermocouple metal wires into
copper (and you will do this somewhere, at least at the instrument) and
error will ocurr. If high accuracy is required, a second thermocouple is
placed at the junction to copper for "cold junction" compensation. But we do
not require that level of precision. EGTs are relative, and CHTs, well, if I
am operating say 5 degrees from red line I will already have taken action.

Rick

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com, "John
Loram" <johnl@...> wrote:

Hi Rick:
When you splice a connector into a thermocouple wire, you actually create
two junctions (the point I missed ): one junction is created where the
thermocouple wire is attached to the plug side of the connector, and a
second junction is create where you connect the thermocouple wire to the
socket side of the connector. These two junctions are of opposite
polarity,
so, if the two junctions are at the same temperature (as they would be
since
they are plugged into one another) they electrically balance out one
another
and will have no effect on the temperature measurement.

building like crazy, -john-
www.loram.org




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[mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com] On Behalf
Of
Rick
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 3:11 PM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Thermocouple compatible bulkhead connector?




I was curious about this as in theory the additional dissimilar metal
junction will cause errors in the readings. As an experiment I tried
connecting a type K thermocouple to a digital thermometer readout with a
length of copper wire spliced in. With the thermocouple immersed in a hot
oil bath I watched the temperature displayed as I used a hot air gun to
heat
the junction of copper to thermocouple wire. I thought I could see 1-2
degrees change heating the junction from ambient to as hot as the gun
would
deliver, but it was difficult to tell the change from random drift.

I have forgotten if I repeated the experiment with a type J thermocouple.
The metals involved are different and I would not assume the same results
without testing.

So my conclusion is, for type K as used in EGT probes and often used for
CHT, you can use the non-thermocouple connector or even use copper
extension
wire without significant error. And as long as all the cylinder's wires
are
the same temperature at the change of metal, all the errors are the same
magnitude and direction, so with EGTs where only the trend is important,
you
are doubly ok.

Rick Hole

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups. <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> com, "John
Loram" <johnl@> wrote:

Thanks for that Sam. Your comment forced me to rethink the problem and I
realized that I had not considered that I was running both sides of each
thermocouple leg through the same connector (duh!), and consequently,
the
effect of the dissimilar metals of the connector would be cancelled out
so
long as both the male and the female pins of the connector are the same
material.

Cool! thanks again, -john-







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