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How many Q1 under active construction?

Seeadler18 <marko.rocznik@...>
 

Does anybody know how many Q1 are under (active) construction right now?

Marko


Re: Anti-Seize and WD-40

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

I used purple hi-grade marine grease on the metal parts, elevators, axels... and that messy carbon black stuff on the spark plugs.
Mike Q200

On 3/15/2010 5:57 PM, Sam Hoskins wrote:
For a general spray lube I like Teflon based Tri-Flow. You can get it at
some hardware stores.

For years I used gray Anti-seize for my torque tubes and it worked just
fine. Kind of messy, though.

Sam







On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Mike Perry<dmperry1012@...> wrote:



Hello:

I was on the road last week, now reading back postings. The discussion
on WD-40 and Anti-Seize compounds caught my eye. I understand WD-40
(and many other petroleum based products) can prevent fiberglass
adhesion. I also know petroleum products can dissolve foam, and many
anti-seize products are petroleum based. Based n those issues, what is
the best product for our purposes? Do we use a different product around
foam (eg: torque tubes) and in front of the firewall (sparkplugs)?

Thanks for any ideas and esp. experience -- Mike Perry






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New to the group

n355tc <n355tc@...>
 

Hi everyone, I am new to this group and come with enthusiasm for the design. My dad built a Dragonfly when I was a kid. I am currently flying a Glastar that my dad and I built. My dad and I are currently building a Skybolt, and when that is done I want to build or re-build/finish a really hot Q-200. I would like to hang around the list and learn what I can while I look for the right deal on a project plane. If someone knows of a Q-200 project that is worth looking at, or a kit at a reasonable price I would love to know about it. I live in Pittsburgh, Pa. but I can get around for the right opportunity.
Todd Copeland


Re: Anti-Seize and WD-40

Sam Hoskins
 

For a general spray lube I like Teflon based Tri-Flow. You can get it at
some hardware stores.

For years I used gray Anti-seize for my torque tubes and it worked just
fine. Kind of messy, though.

Sam







On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Mike Perry <dmperry1012@...> wrote:



Hello:

I was on the road last week, now reading back postings. The discussion
on WD-40 and Anti-Seize compounds caught my eye. I understand WD-40
(and many other petroleum based products) can prevent fiberglass
adhesion. I also know petroleum products can dissolve foam, and many
anti-seize products are petroleum based. Based n those issues, what is
the best product for our purposes? Do we use a different product around
foam (eg: torque tubes) and in front of the firewall (sparkplugs)?

Thanks for any ideas and esp. experience -- Mike Perry



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Anti-Seize and WD-40

Mike Perry
 

Hello:

I was on the road last week, now reading back postings. The discussion on WD-40 and Anti-Seize compounds caught my eye. I understand WD-40 (and many other petroleum based products) can prevent fiberglass adhesion. I also know petroleum products can dissolve foam, and many anti-seize products are petroleum based. Based n those issues, what is the best product for our purposes? Do we use a different product around foam (eg: torque tubes) and in front of the firewall (sparkplugs)?

Thanks for any ideas and esp. experience -- Mike Perry


Getting Stiffner

schmayhoo
 

I have, better late than never, realized that I need "vertical stiffners" on the inside of the firewall on my Q-200 project. There are no drawings, templates etc that came with my paperwork and short of spending $20. for a complete set of templates, can someone point me to a picture or description of what was called out in the Q-200 plans?

Thanks for your help.

Jerry Brinkerhuff Q-200 planning on flying it in 2010


Re: Anti-Seize and WD-40

One Sky Dog
 

Mike,
In my humble opinion, no WD-40 on my airplane, oil on linkages sparingly,
do not over grease bearings ( a little dab will do it, more will retain
heat. Dissimilar metal junctions a dab of anti-seize. Metals that gall Al, SS a
dab of anti-seize. No hydrocarbon spray over styro-foam cores even painted
ones. Soap designed for high end cars or airplanes. No Windex or ammonia
products on the canopy.

Bugs, mist with water/one drop soap, wait 2 mins, wipe with micro-fiber
cloths from Costco.

Regards,

Charlie Johnson

Ogden, UT

In a message dated 3/15/2010 3:53:02 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
dmperry1012@... writes:

Hello:

I was on the road last week, now reading back postings. The discussion
on WD-40 and Anti-Seize compounds caught my eye. I understand WD-40
(and many other petroleum based products) can prevent fiberglass
adhesion. I also know petroleum products can dissolve foam, and many
anti-seize products are petroleum based. Based n those issues, what is
the best product for our purposes? Do we use a different product around
foam (eg: torque tubes) and in front of the firewall (sparkplugs)?

Thanks for any ideas and esp. experience -- Mike Perry


Re: Anti-Seize and WD-40

schmayhoo
 

I had heard that WD-40 contains fish oil. Have also heard that if sprayed
on lures, it attracts fish too.

Jerry Brinkerhuff Q-200 Steadily building

Had enough yet? Don't re-elect anybody. Remember that the last 100 years
of American decline have been brought to you by Democrats and Republicans.
Think third party

In a message dated 3/15/2010 4:53:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
dmperry1012@... writes:




Hello:

I was on the road last week, now reading back postings. The discussion
on WD-40 and Anti-Seize compounds caught my eye. I understand WD-40
(and many other petroleum based products) can prevent fiberglass
adhesion. I also know petroleum products can dissolve foam, and many
anti-seize products are petroleum based. Based n those issues, what is
the best product for our purposes? Do we use a different product around
foam (eg: torque tubes) and in front of the firewall (sparkplugs)f

Thanks for any ideas and esp. experience -- Mike Perry






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Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause- RWS mounting issues.

Michael Quinn
 

I am thinking about selling mine as life has got in the way of life... (long story)

It is complete with two canopy (one clear the other smoked). I started putting the fuselage together and have all 4 parts together (need tape and glass on the inside - so you can 50% see the seams - which were very challenging to get right. Have a very stout build table and jigs for the fuselage and wings. I have all the plans (I donated the full size scanned plans to what you see on q-list site if you buy them (they are rearranged by the Dan (site owner and current president) to fit on E size paper))).

I have all the old news letters, original plans, and two copies (one soft). Foam has never been cut and I have all the hardware, loop main and nose wheel (minus the strut). Extra wheels and brakes for the original setup. Exhaust for O-200 and cowl.

I am located in Charlotte, NC. Make me an offer if your are really interested. I want to finish it and have no reason to sell it - other than to have someone else more able to finish it, do so.

M.

To: Q-LIST@...
From: stevenshack@...
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:09:50 -0800
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause- RWS mounting issues.




























First time poster, please excuse the intrusion. I am interested in finding an unstarted complete Q2 kit if anyone knows of one...



Reading through the details of the event I have one question to ask. Why

is the ECU not potted? I've worked with some military and radio hardware in the past

and every single bit that is expected to be in harsh conditions is potted.



I also question the use of D-connectors also when you can find easily available from a variety of sources.



On 2010-03-14, at 12:51 PM, Jon Finley wrote:



Clive,
As I have reported, this was clearly a builder error. I used lock nuts but
they were installed on a bolt that was too short, fell off, and caused the
problem.
I see no difference between doing what I did and incorrectly installing the
nuts on a connecting rod. When the rod/engine fails, you don't run out and
redesign the engine, you correct the assembly error.
In my opinion, this is NOT a safety issue. If you really want to improve
anything over what I did (excluding the error), install the EC2 in a
location that is not so hard to inspect. Mine is way up inside the hell
hole and is a real headache to inspect. In my opinion, this was the first
mistake that led to the error.
Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf
Of Clive
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 3:38 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause- RWS mounting
issues.
Hi Jon
I don't know if this has been sent in part, digit problem, so apologies
if this is part repeated.
http://www.rotaryaviation.com/pdf%20files/EC2AinstallRev2.pdf
<http://www.rotaryaviation.com/pdf%20files/EC2AinstallRev2.pdf> here
is a link to RWS sample instructions under the heading controller the
mounting is as you described.
This is a sample and Tracy does make it clear that there may be
changes.
However as this is a real safety issue for all RWS users, and you have
been honest in bringing it to Q-list subscribers attention.
We owe it to our fellow aviators to make Tracy aware so he can at least
amend the instructions if this has not already been done.
I have looked at the mounting methods for LSE/SDI and several other
makes and they all have external ears or similar.
It seems a bit strange to have to partially disassemble the unit to
mount?
Clive .............gobxoy


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Re: APRS Tracking.

Bruce Crain
 

Excellent Bob!!! You've done a great job with that TriQ 200! It shows! And I know you're enjoying the fruits of your labor! It's a great aircraft isn't it!
Bruce

Please note: message attached

From: robert clark <kr2flyer1986@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] APRS Tracking.
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:48:49 -0700 (PDT)


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Re: APRS Tracking.

Kevin Boddicker
 

Pretty neat Bob. What is that old saying about the difference between men and boys?
Glad to hear you got some flying in.

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B 157 hrs
Luana, IA.



On Mar 14, 2010, at 5:47 PM, robert clark wrote:



--- On Sun, 3/14/10, robert clark <kr2flyer1986@...> wrote:

From: robert clark <kr2flyer1986@...>
Subject: APRS Tracking.
To: Q-LIST@...
Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 5:48 PM
Went flying for the first time this
spring. Had to wait for the ice block to melt in front of
the hanger. Great to get back in the air!
I got to test my APRS tracker. This is a
system that gives real time tracking so the wife can keep
track of me on google APRS mapping.
Here is a great link for those wanting to learn more about
APRS.

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=104

Here is a link for todays flight to show what APRS does.

http://aprs.fi/?call=n817RC&mt=m&z=11&timerange=3600

As always keep building and stay safe.

Bob Clark
Tri-Q 200
N186RC
99 hours
Ankeny, Iowa





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Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause- RWS mounting issues.

Steven Shack <stevenshack@...>
 

First time poster, please excuse the intrusion. I am interested in finding an unstarted complete Q2 kit if anyone knows of one...

Reading through the details of the event I have one question to ask. Why
is the ECU not potted? I've worked with some military and radio hardware in the past
and every single bit that is expected to be in harsh conditions is potted.

I also question the use of D-connectors also when you can find easily available from a variety of sources.


On 2010-03-14, at 12:51 PM, Jon Finley wrote:

Clive,

As I have reported, this was clearly a builder error. I used lock nuts but
they were installed on a bolt that was too short, fell off, and caused the
problem.

I see no difference between doing what I did and incorrectly installing the
nuts on a connecting rod. When the rod/engine fails, you don't run out and
redesign the engine, you correct the assembly error.

In my opinion, this is NOT a safety issue. If you really want to improve
anything over what I did (excluding the error), install the EC2 in a
location that is not so hard to inspect. Mine is way up inside the hell
hole and is a real headache to inspect. In my opinion, this was the first
mistake that led to the error.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf
Of Clive
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 3:38 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause- RWS mounting
issues.

Hi Jon
I don't know if this has been sent in part, digit problem, so apologies
if this is part repeated.
http://www.rotaryaviation.com/pdf%20files/EC2AinstallRev2.pdf
<http://www.rotaryaviation.com/pdf%20files/EC2AinstallRev2.pdf> here
is a link to RWS sample instructions under the heading controller the
mounting is as you described.
This is a sample and Tracy does make it clear that there may be
changes.
However as this is a real safety issue for all RWS users, and you have
been honest in bringing it to Q-list subscribers attention.
We owe it to our fellow aviators to make Tracy aware so he can at least
amend the instructions if this has not already been done.
I have looked at the mounting methods for LSE/SDI and several other
makes and they all have external ears or similar.
It seems a bit strange to have to partially disassemble the unit to
mount?
Clive .............gobxoy
--
Steven



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Re: APRS Tracking.

kr2flyer1986
 

--- On Sun, 3/14/10, robert clark <kr2flyer1986@...> wrote:

From: robert clark <kr2flyer1986@...>
Subject: APRS Tracking.
To: Q-LIST@...
Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 5:48 PM
Went flying for the first time this
spring. Had to wait for the ice block to melt in front of
the hanger. Great to get back in the air!
I got to test my APRS tracker.  This  is a
system that gives real time tracking so the wife can keep
track of me on google APRS mapping.
Here is a great link for those wanting to learn more about
APRS.

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=104

Here is a link for todays flight to show what APRS does.

http://aprs.fi/?call=n817RC&mt=m&z=11&timerange=3600

As always keep building and stay safe.

Bob Clark
Tri-Q 200
N186RC
99 hours
Ankeny, Iowa


     


APRS Tracking.

kr2flyer1986
 

Went flying for the first time this spring. Had to wait for the ice block to melt in front of the hanger. Great to get back in the air!
I got to test my APRS tracker. This is a system that gives real time tracking so the wife can keep track of me on google APRS mapping.
Here is a great link for those wanting to learn more about APRS.

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=104

Here is a link for todays flight to show what APRS does.

http://aprs.fi/?call=n817RC&mt=m&z=11&timerange=3600

As always keep building and stay safe.

Bob Clark
Tri-Q 200
N186RC
99 hours
Ankeny, Iowa


N96BJ Flight

Bruce Crain
 

I went flying yesterday to see how my climb rate is at 8500'. Will be doing some tests to see if I can take off from an 8300' msl airport with "Honey Lamb" and full fuel plus luggage. I eventually started to climb at 8000' msl with full power and 2700 rpm (the MT electric pitch prop allows me to set the rpm where I want). My Waddelow main wing and canard are 228" long. The temp was 38 degrees F and I think the baro was 3001 Inches. At 115 and 110 respectively the climb rate never went below 400 fpm all the way up to 9500' msl. I used 75 lbs of weight in the right seat but was down about 4 gals in fuel. I am not at liberty to say what "Honey Lamb" weighs but it is some where over 75 lbs. So with that said I will someday fly out solo to Angel Fire, NM to do some real life testing paying attention to payload and temps especially. Will use "Sandy" my sandbag in the right seat so I don't scare anyone.

After the test I thought "I haven't ever rolled these 228" flying surfaces". So at 7500' msl I did an aileron roll! It was just fine except I think perhaps I didn't unload enough and at the end I was descending at 2000 fpm! Everything was smooth except for the end. The longer wings don't roll as fast as the shorter ones especially with the anhedral in the canard. Still it is a great boredom fighter! Wish I had included the aileron roll in my video! Would have given it a bit more action! Maybe in the next video!

Soooooo Worth it!!!!
Git' er done!!!
Maybe I will include and aileron roll in the check list! ;o)
Bruce Crain


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Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause- RWS mounting issues.

Jon Finley <jon@...>
 

Clive,

As I have reported, this was clearly a builder error. I used lock nuts but
they were installed on a bolt that was too short, fell off, and caused the
problem.

I see no difference between doing what I did and incorrectly installing the
nuts on a connecting rod. When the rod/engine fails, you don't run out and
redesign the engine, you correct the assembly error.

In my opinion, this is NOT a safety issue. If you really want to improve
anything over what I did (excluding the error), install the EC2 in a
location that is not so hard to inspect. Mine is way up inside the hell
hole and is a real headache to inspect. In my opinion, this was the first
mistake that led to the error.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf
Of Clive
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 3:38 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause- RWS mounting
issues.

Hi Jon
I don't know if this has been sent in part, digit problem, so apologies
if this is part repeated.
http://www.rotaryaviation.com/pdf%20files/EC2AinstallRev2.pdf
<http://www.rotaryaviation.com/pdf%20files/EC2AinstallRev2.pdf> here
is a link to RWS sample instructions under the heading controller the
mounting is as you described.
This is a sample and Tracy does make it clear that there may be
changes.
However as this is a real safety issue for all RWS users, and you have
been honest in bringing it to Q-list subscribers attention.
We owe it to our fellow aviators to make Tracy aware so he can at least
amend the instructions if this has not already been done.
I have looked at the mounting methods for LSE/SDI and several other
makes and they all have external ears or similar.
It seems a bit strange to have to partially disassemble the unit to
mount?
Clive .............gobxoy


Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause- RWS mounting issues.

Clive Clapham
 

Hi Jon
I don't know if this has been sent in part, digit problem, so apologies
if this is part repeated.
http://www.rotaryaviation.com/pdf%20files/EC2AinstallRev2.pdf
<http://www.rotaryaviation.com/pdf%20files/EC2AinstallRev2.pdf> here
is a link to RWS sample instructions under the heading controller the
mounting is as you described.
This is a sample and Tracy does make it clear that there may be changes.
However as this is a real safety issue for all RWS users, and you have
been honest in bringing it to Q-list subscribers attention.
We owe it to our fellow aviators to make Tracy aware so he can at least
amend the instructions if this has not already been done.
I have looked at the mounting methods for LSE/SDI and several other
makes and they all have external ears or similar.
It seems a bit strange to have to partially disassemble the unit to
mount?
Clive .............gobxoy











--- In Q-LIST@..., "Jon Finley" <jon@...> wrote:

Clive,

I cannot speak to what Tracy intended.

What you described is the way mine WAS mounted - not any longer.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On
Behalf
Of Clive
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 1:37 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause

Hi Jon

Looking at the RWS controller, it does not have any ears for
mounting.

Would I be correct in saying that Tracy intends the unit to be
mounted
with a nut or bolt terminating inside the case?

Meaning that the unit has to be partially disassembled each time the
unit is removed from the aircraft?

Clive ..............gobxoy


Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause

L.J. French <LJFrench@...>
 

Oh - yeh, that's it. Thanks for jogging my lazy memory.

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Paul Buckley
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 11:26 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause

Lynn

Those 'thingys' are called 'nut plates'.

Regards

Paul B.


----- Original Message -----
From: L.J. French
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 5:04 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause



Bart,
Jon can elaborate on his latest, but I put those captive nut type thingys
(sorry I don't know the proper description) that are held in place with
rivets. That way the unit can be installed without disassembly. However,
some ears for mounting would be one step better because in many cases you
can not get at the back side of the unit to insert screws.

LJ French

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
fisherb@...
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 7:40 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause

Jon how are you installing it now? Is the board fried? I am working on a
similar set up? Thanks Bart tri Q200 Sent on the SprintR Now Network from
my
BlackBerryR -----Original Message----- From: "Jon Finley"
<jon@...> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:05:29 To:
<Q-LIST@...> Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure -
Cause Clive, I cannot speak to what Tracy intended. What you described is
the way mine WAS mounted - not any longer. Jon > -----Original
Message----- > From: Q-LIST@...
[mailto:Q-LIST@...]
On Behalf > Of Clive > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 1:37 AM > To:
Q-LIST@... > Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure -
Cause
> > Hi Jon > > Looking at the RWS controller, it does not have any ears
for mounting. > > Would I be correct in saying that Tracy intends the unit
to be mounted > with a nut or bolt terminating inside the case? > >
Meaning
that the unit has to be partially disassembled each time the > unit is
removed from the aircraft? > > Clive ..............gobxoy



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Re: Instrument panel complete. N32LL

Rick Hole
 

What is your plan if the D100 fails? Kind of putting all your eggs in one basket? Even a portable GPS would give ballpark info.
Rick

--- In Q-LIST@..., "vt325xi" <rlabarre@...> wrote:

Here's mine. Dynon D100. No other flight instruments. Completely a
glass panel. The engine instruments are all mechanical. So if the
power goes out the Dynon is good for 1 hour on the backup battery. I
will still fly the airplane.

Richard


Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause

Paul Buckley
 

Lynn

Those 'thingys' are called 'nut plates'.

Regards

Paul B.

----- Original Message -----
From: L.J. French
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 5:04 PM
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause



Bart,
Jon can elaborate on his latest, but I put those captive nut type thingys
(sorry I don't know the proper description) that are held in place with
rivets. That way the unit can be installed without disassembly. However,
some ears for mounting would be one step better because in many cases you
can not get at the back side of the unit to insert screws.

LJ French

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
fisherb@...
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 7:40 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause

Jon how are you installing it now? Is the board fried? I am working on a
similar set up? Thanks Bart tri Q200 Sent on the SprintR Now Network from my
BlackBerryR -----Original Message----- From: "Jon Finley"
<jon@...> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 06:05:29 To:
<Q-LIST@...> Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure -
Cause Clive, I cannot speak to what Tracy intended. What you described is
the way mine WAS mounted - not any longer. Jon > -----Original
Message----- > From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
On Behalf > Of Clive > Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 1:37 AM > To:
Q-LIST@... > Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause
> > Hi Jon > > Looking at the RWS controller, it does not have any ears
for mounting. > > Would I be correct in saying that Tracy intends the unit
to be mounted > with a nut or bolt terminating inside the case? > > Meaning
that the unit has to be partially disassembled each time the > unit is
removed from the aircraft? > > Clive ..............gobxoy



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