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Re: Getting Stiffner

Jim Patillo
 

Hi Jerry,

I discovered I didn't have the stiffeners over my canard until 300 hours, lucky me! Glad you saw it now. In my case, when I decided to switch from stock and build an LS1 Q200, I missed that part.

I have (2)3/16"T x 1 1-2"W (marine plywood)bi-directional glass covered stiffeners on the firewall running from fuselage (equally spaced)to mag box on both sides. Also(1)3/8"T x 2"W (white foam) bi-directional glass covered stiffeners running from spar (centered over carbon spar)to header tank both sides.

Regards,

Jim Q200 N46JP

--- In Q-LIST@..., "schmayhoo" <brinkerhuf@...> wrote:

I have, better late than never, realized that I need "vertical stiffners" on the inside of the firewall on my Q-200 project. There are no drawings, templates etc that came with my paperwork and short of spending $20. for a complete set of templates, can someone point me to a picture or description of what was called out in the Q-200 plans?

Thanks for your help.

Jerry Brinkerhuff Q-200 planning on flying it in 2010


Re: Getting Stiffner

Clive Clapham
 

Hi Jerry

There is a picture of my Q235 stiffeners in the G-BXOY photo album on this list, which are similar.

The plans Q200 are 1/8" aircraft grade ply two bid at 45 bias, 2"over lap to firewall.

I think if you trawl through Sam Hoskins Blog around picture 100_4451 to 100_4454 should tell you all you need to know. Sam's look like 1/4" so may be foam? Mine are foam and so either way should be OK.

This link if it works should get you close.

http://samhoskins.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2008-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&updated-max=2009-01-01T00:00:00-08:00&max-results=50

Clive..........................gobxoy

--- In Q-LIST@..., "schmayhoo" <brinkerhuf@...> wrote:

I have, better late than never, realized that I need "vertical stiffners" on the inside of the firewall on my Q-200 project. There are no drawings, templates etc that came with my paperwork and short of spending $20. for a complete set of templates, can someone point me to a picture or description of what was called out in the Q-200 plans?

Thanks for your help.

Jerry Brinkerhuff Q-200 planning on flying it in 2010


Re: APRS Tracking.

kr2flyer1986
 

Paul
 Iam using the Micro-Track all-in one. As I can move it to what every aircraft I fly. I wired it so I can use 12 volt power or battery pack.
Bob Clark

--- On Mon, 3/15/10, Fisher Paul A. <fisherpaula@...> wrote:

From: Fisher Paul A. <fisherpaula@...>
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] APRS Tracking.
To: "Q-LIST@..." <Q-LIST@...>
Date: Monday, March 15, 2010, 8:46 PM







 









Very cool Bob! Welcome to the world of APRS. What hardware are you using? Looks like you've got it working well! I used Sam's comments to get me started as well!.



Paul (http://aprs. fi/n18pf)



From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. com [mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of robert clark

Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 16:49

To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups. com

Subject: [Q-LIST] APRS Tracking.



Went flying for the first time this spring. Had to wait for the ice block to melt in front of the hanger. Great to get back in the air!

I got to test my APRS tracker. This is a system that gives real time tracking so the wife can keep track of me on google APRS mapping.

Here is a great link for those wanting to learn more about APRS.



http://www.vansairf orce.com/ community/ forumdisplay. php?f=104



Here is a link for todays flight to show what APRS does.



http://aprs. fi/?call= n817RC&mt= m&z=11&timerange =3600



As always keep building and stay safe.



Bob Clark

Tri-Q 200

N186RC

99 hours

Ankeny, Iowa



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Re: APRS Tracking.

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

Nice, some 190 mph readings...
Mike Q200

On 3/15/2010 8:46 PM, Fisher Paul A. wrote:
Very cool Bob! Welcome to the world of APRS. What hardware are you using? Looks like you've got it working well! I used Sam's comments to get me started as well!.

Paul (http://aprs.fi/n18pf)



From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of robert clark
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 16:49
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] APRS Tracking.



Went flying for the first time this spring. Had to wait for the ice block to melt in front of the hanger. Great to get back in the air!
I got to test my APRS tracker. This is a system that gives real time tracking so the wife can keep track of me on google APRS mapping.
Here is a great link for those wanting to learn more about APRS.

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=104

Here is a link for todays flight to show what APRS does.

http://aprs.fi/?call=n817RC&mt=m&z=11&timerange=3600

As always keep building and stay safe.

Bob Clark
Tri-Q 200
N186RC
99 hours
Ankeny, Iowa






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Re: APRS Tracking.

Fisher Paul A. <fisherpaula@...>
 

Very cool Bob! Welcome to the world of APRS. What hardware are you using? Looks like you've got it working well! I used Sam's comments to get me started as well!.

Paul (http://aprs.fi/n18pf)



From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of robert clark
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 16:49
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] APRS Tracking.



Went flying for the first time this spring. Had to wait for the ice block to melt in front of the hanger. Great to get back in the air!
I got to test my APRS tracker. This is a system that gives real time tracking so the wife can keep track of me on google APRS mapping.
Here is a great link for those wanting to learn more about APRS.

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=104

Here is a link for todays flight to show what APRS does.

http://aprs.fi/?call=n817RC&mt=m&z=11&timerange=3600

As always keep building and stay safe.

Bob Clark
Tri-Q 200
N186RC
99 hours
Ankeny, Iowa


Re: How many Q1 under active construction?

jon@...
 

Hi Marko,

See message 35724 for the poll results earlier this year. The count of people on this list actively building a Q1 as of the end of January 2010 was 2.

Note the definitions of active/slow/dormant at the bottom of the above message.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: "Seeadler18" <marko.rocznik@...>
Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:29pm
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] How many Q1 under active construction?

Does anybody know how many Q1 are under (active) construction right now?

Marko


How many Q1 under active construction?

Seeadler18 <marko.rocznik@...>
 

Does anybody know how many Q1 are under (active) construction right now?

Marko


Re: Anti-Seize and WD-40

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 

I used purple hi-grade marine grease on the metal parts, elevators, axels... and that messy carbon black stuff on the spark plugs.
Mike Q200

On 3/15/2010 5:57 PM, Sam Hoskins wrote:
For a general spray lube I like Teflon based Tri-Flow. You can get it at
some hardware stores.

For years I used gray Anti-seize for my torque tubes and it worked just
fine. Kind of messy, though.

Sam







On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Mike Perry<dmperry1012@...> wrote:



Hello:

I was on the road last week, now reading back postings. The discussion
on WD-40 and Anti-Seize compounds caught my eye. I understand WD-40
(and many other petroleum based products) can prevent fiberglass
adhesion. I also know petroleum products can dissolve foam, and many
anti-seize products are petroleum based. Based n those issues, what is
the best product for our purposes? Do we use a different product around
foam (eg: torque tubes) and in front of the firewall (sparkplugs)?

Thanks for any ideas and esp. experience -- Mike Perry






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New to the group

n355tc <n355tc@...>
 

Hi everyone, I am new to this group and come with enthusiasm for the design. My dad built a Dragonfly when I was a kid. I am currently flying a Glastar that my dad and I built. My dad and I are currently building a Skybolt, and when that is done I want to build or re-build/finish a really hot Q-200. I would like to hang around the list and learn what I can while I look for the right deal on a project plane. If someone knows of a Q-200 project that is worth looking at, or a kit at a reasonable price I would love to know about it. I live in Pittsburgh, Pa. but I can get around for the right opportunity.
Todd Copeland


Re: Anti-Seize and WD-40

Sam Hoskins
 

For a general spray lube I like Teflon based Tri-Flow. You can get it at
some hardware stores.

For years I used gray Anti-seize for my torque tubes and it worked just
fine. Kind of messy, though.

Sam







On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 4:45 PM, Mike Perry <dmperry1012@...> wrote:



Hello:

I was on the road last week, now reading back postings. The discussion
on WD-40 and Anti-Seize compounds caught my eye. I understand WD-40
(and many other petroleum based products) can prevent fiberglass
adhesion. I also know petroleum products can dissolve foam, and many
anti-seize products are petroleum based. Based n those issues, what is
the best product for our purposes? Do we use a different product around
foam (eg: torque tubes) and in front of the firewall (sparkplugs)?

Thanks for any ideas and esp. experience -- Mike Perry



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Anti-Seize and WD-40

Mike Perry
 

Hello:

I was on the road last week, now reading back postings. The discussion on WD-40 and Anti-Seize compounds caught my eye. I understand WD-40 (and many other petroleum based products) can prevent fiberglass adhesion. I also know petroleum products can dissolve foam, and many anti-seize products are petroleum based. Based n those issues, what is the best product for our purposes? Do we use a different product around foam (eg: torque tubes) and in front of the firewall (sparkplugs)?

Thanks for any ideas and esp. experience -- Mike Perry


Getting Stiffner

schmayhoo
 

I have, better late than never, realized that I need "vertical stiffners" on the inside of the firewall on my Q-200 project. There are no drawings, templates etc that came with my paperwork and short of spending $20. for a complete set of templates, can someone point me to a picture or description of what was called out in the Q-200 plans?

Thanks for your help.

Jerry Brinkerhuff Q-200 planning on flying it in 2010


Re: Anti-Seize and WD-40

One Sky Dog
 

Mike,
In my humble opinion, no WD-40 on my airplane, oil on linkages sparingly,
do not over grease bearings ( a little dab will do it, more will retain
heat. Dissimilar metal junctions a dab of anti-seize. Metals that gall Al, SS a
dab of anti-seize. No hydrocarbon spray over styro-foam cores even painted
ones. Soap designed for high end cars or airplanes. No Windex or ammonia
products on the canopy.

Bugs, mist with water/one drop soap, wait 2 mins, wipe with micro-fiber
cloths from Costco.

Regards,

Charlie Johnson

Ogden, UT

In a message dated 3/15/2010 3:53:02 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
dmperry1012@... writes:

Hello:

I was on the road last week, now reading back postings. The discussion
on WD-40 and Anti-Seize compounds caught my eye. I understand WD-40
(and many other petroleum based products) can prevent fiberglass
adhesion. I also know petroleum products can dissolve foam, and many
anti-seize products are petroleum based. Based n those issues, what is
the best product for our purposes? Do we use a different product around
foam (eg: torque tubes) and in front of the firewall (sparkplugs)?

Thanks for any ideas and esp. experience -- Mike Perry


Re: Anti-Seize and WD-40

schmayhoo
 

I had heard that WD-40 contains fish oil. Have also heard that if sprayed
on lures, it attracts fish too.

Jerry Brinkerhuff Q-200 Steadily building

Had enough yet? Don't re-elect anybody. Remember that the last 100 years
of American decline have been brought to you by Democrats and Republicans.
Think third party

In a message dated 3/15/2010 4:53:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
dmperry1012@... writes:




Hello:

I was on the road last week, now reading back postings. The discussion
on WD-40 and Anti-Seize compounds caught my eye. I understand WD-40
(and many other petroleum based products) can prevent fiberglass
adhesion. I also know petroleum products can dissolve foam, and many
anti-seize products are petroleum based. Based n those issues, what is
the best product for our purposes? Do we use a different product around
foam (eg: torque tubes) and in front of the firewall (sparkplugs)f

Thanks for any ideas and esp. experience -- Mike Perry






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Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause- RWS mounting issues.

Michael Quinn
 

I am thinking about selling mine as life has got in the way of life... (long story)

It is complete with two canopy (one clear the other smoked). I started putting the fuselage together and have all 4 parts together (need tape and glass on the inside - so you can 50% see the seams - which were very challenging to get right. Have a very stout build table and jigs for the fuselage and wings. I have all the plans (I donated the full size scanned plans to what you see on q-list site if you buy them (they are rearranged by the Dan (site owner and current president) to fit on E size paper))).

I have all the old news letters, original plans, and two copies (one soft). Foam has never been cut and I have all the hardware, loop main and nose wheel (minus the strut). Extra wheels and brakes for the original setup. Exhaust for O-200 and cowl.

I am located in Charlotte, NC. Make me an offer if your are really interested. I want to finish it and have no reason to sell it - other than to have someone else more able to finish it, do so.

M.

To: Q-LIST@...
From: stevenshack@...
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:09:50 -0800
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause- RWS mounting issues.




























First time poster, please excuse the intrusion. I am interested in finding an unstarted complete Q2 kit if anyone knows of one...



Reading through the details of the event I have one question to ask. Why

is the ECU not potted? I've worked with some military and radio hardware in the past

and every single bit that is expected to be in harsh conditions is potted.



I also question the use of D-connectors also when you can find easily available from a variety of sources.



On 2010-03-14, at 12:51 PM, Jon Finley wrote:



Clive,
As I have reported, this was clearly a builder error. I used lock nuts but
they were installed on a bolt that was too short, fell off, and caused the
problem.
I see no difference between doing what I did and incorrectly installing the
nuts on a connecting rod. When the rod/engine fails, you don't run out and
redesign the engine, you correct the assembly error.
In my opinion, this is NOT a safety issue. If you really want to improve
anything over what I did (excluding the error), install the EC2 in a
location that is not so hard to inspect. Mine is way up inside the hell
hole and is a real headache to inspect. In my opinion, this was the first
mistake that led to the error.
Jon
-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf
Of Clive
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 3:38 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause- RWS mounting
issues.
Hi Jon
I don't know if this has been sent in part, digit problem, so apologies
if this is part repeated.
http://www.rotaryaviation.com/pdf%20files/EC2AinstallRev2.pdf
<http://www.rotaryaviation.com/pdf%20files/EC2AinstallRev2.pdf> here
is a link to RWS sample instructions under the heading controller the
mounting is as you described.
This is a sample and Tracy does make it clear that there may be
changes.
However as this is a real safety issue for all RWS users, and you have
been honest in bringing it to Q-list subscribers attention.
We owe it to our fellow aviators to make Tracy aware so he can at least
amend the instructions if this has not already been done.
I have looked at the mounting methods for LSE/SDI and several other
makes and they all have external ears or similar.
It seems a bit strange to have to partially disassemble the unit to
mount?
Clive .............gobxoy


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Re: APRS Tracking.

Bruce Crain
 

Excellent Bob!!! You've done a great job with that TriQ 200! It shows! And I know you're enjoying the fruits of your labor! It's a great aircraft isn't it!
Bruce

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To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] APRS Tracking.
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:48:49 -0700 (PDT)


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Re: APRS Tracking.

Kevin Boddicker
 

Pretty neat Bob. What is that old saying about the difference between men and boys?
Glad to hear you got some flying in.

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B 157 hrs
Luana, IA.



On Mar 14, 2010, at 5:47 PM, robert clark wrote:



--- On Sun, 3/14/10, robert clark <kr2flyer1986@...> wrote:

From: robert clark <kr2flyer1986@...>
Subject: APRS Tracking.
To: Q-LIST@...
Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 5:48 PM
Went flying for the first time this
spring. Had to wait for the ice block to melt in front of
the hanger. Great to get back in the air!
I got to test my APRS tracker. This is a
system that gives real time tracking so the wife can keep
track of me on google APRS mapping.
Here is a great link for those wanting to learn more about
APRS.

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=104

Here is a link for todays flight to show what APRS does.

http://aprs.fi/?call=n817RC&mt=m&z=11&timerange=3600

As always keep building and stay safe.

Bob Clark
Tri-Q 200
N186RC
99 hours
Ankeny, Iowa





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Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause- RWS mounting issues.

Steven Shack <stevenshack@...>
 

First time poster, please excuse the intrusion. I am interested in finding an unstarted complete Q2 kit if anyone knows of one...

Reading through the details of the event I have one question to ask. Why
is the ECU not potted? I've worked with some military and radio hardware in the past
and every single bit that is expected to be in harsh conditions is potted.

I also question the use of D-connectors also when you can find easily available from a variety of sources.


On 2010-03-14, at 12:51 PM, Jon Finley wrote:

Clive,

As I have reported, this was clearly a builder error. I used lock nuts but
they were installed on a bolt that was too short, fell off, and caused the
problem.

I see no difference between doing what I did and incorrectly installing the
nuts on a connecting rod. When the rod/engine fails, you don't run out and
redesign the engine, you correct the assembly error.

In my opinion, this is NOT a safety issue. If you really want to improve
anything over what I did (excluding the error), install the EC2 in a
location that is not so hard to inspect. Mine is way up inside the hell
hole and is a real headache to inspect. In my opinion, this was the first
mistake that led to the error.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf
Of Clive
Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2010 3:38 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Finley Power Failure - Cause- RWS mounting
issues.

Hi Jon
I don't know if this has been sent in part, digit problem, so apologies
if this is part repeated.
http://www.rotaryaviation.com/pdf%20files/EC2AinstallRev2.pdf
<http://www.rotaryaviation.com/pdf%20files/EC2AinstallRev2.pdf> here
is a link to RWS sample instructions under the heading controller the
mounting is as you described.
This is a sample and Tracy does make it clear that there may be
changes.
However as this is a real safety issue for all RWS users, and you have
been honest in bringing it to Q-list subscribers attention.
We owe it to our fellow aviators to make Tracy aware so he can at least
amend the instructions if this has not already been done.
I have looked at the mounting methods for LSE/SDI and several other
makes and they all have external ears or similar.
It seems a bit strange to have to partially disassemble the unit to
mount?
Clive .............gobxoy
--
Steven



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: APRS Tracking.

kr2flyer1986
 

--- On Sun, 3/14/10, robert clark <kr2flyer1986@...> wrote:

From: robert clark <kr2flyer1986@...>
Subject: APRS Tracking.
To: Q-LIST@...
Date: Sunday, March 14, 2010, 5:48 PM
Went flying for the first time this
spring. Had to wait for the ice block to melt in front of
the hanger. Great to get back in the air!
I got to test my APRS tracker.  This  is a
system that gives real time tracking so the wife can keep
track of me on google APRS mapping.
Here is a great link for those wanting to learn more about
APRS.

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=104

Here is a link for todays flight to show what APRS does.

http://aprs.fi/?call=n817RC&mt=m&z=11&timerange=3600

As always keep building and stay safe.

Bob Clark
Tri-Q 200
N186RC
99 hours
Ankeny, Iowa


     


APRS Tracking.

kr2flyer1986
 

Went flying for the first time this spring. Had to wait for the ice block to melt in front of the hanger. Great to get back in the air!
I got to test my APRS tracker. This is a system that gives real time tracking so the wife can keep track of me on google APRS mapping.
Here is a great link for those wanting to learn more about APRS.

http://www.vansairforce.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=104

Here is a link for todays flight to show what APRS does.

http://aprs.fi/?call=n817RC&mt=m&z=11&timerange=3600

As always keep building and stay safe.

Bob Clark
Tri-Q 200
N186RC
99 hours
Ankeny, Iowa

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