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Re: AOA

bob <bob2@...>
 

Comes up fine in Safari on my Mac. You might try a different browser or I could send screenshots to you in .png format if that would help./B

On Apr 18, 2010, at 20:30, MartinErni@aol.com wrote:

Thanks Bob,
For some reason I can't get the pictures to come up or print on the
cas-cozy site. I don't know if it's my computer or the site.
Earnest


In a message dated 4/18/2010 6:40:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bob2@winco.net writes:

I'll try this differently:
http://www.cas-cozy.nl/efis/AOA.html
http://www.pipcom.com/~cowcam/aoainstal.htm
http://www.lesmaninst.com/ - gauge source

On Apr 18, 2010, at 17:20, MartinErni@aol.com wrote:

I saved an article from either Kitplanes or Sport Aviation on how to
build
you on AOA indicator but have misplaced it. It was in the last couple of
years. Can anyone tell me where I might locate a copy.

Earnest





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Re: Q-List Rules?

Phil Lankford
 

As the President said in DOCTOR STRANGELOVE," There will be no fighting in
the War Room." Ooh, Sorry, that was off topic.

Phil Lanfkord


Re: Sun N Fun 2010 Report

Bruce Crain
 

I wonder if their absence has anything to do with the sand in the parking. It is pretty soft and when trying to taxi the sand goes flying. The engine in the back would in effect sand blast the prop. My TriQ doesn't like it very well either as sand is sucked up with the prop "tornado" in front of it. Tri-gears are more susceptible to picking up things in front of it than conventional geared aircraft.
Bruce


Rutan's pickleforks and clones were very thinly
represented. How times change! We're back to that antique aluminum material.
Turboprop installations slowly increasing.


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Re: AOA

bob <bob2@...>
 

I'll try this differently:
http://www.cas-cozy.nl/efis/AOA.html
http://www.pipcom.com/~cowcam/aoainstal.htm
http://www.lesmaninst.com/ - gauge source

On Apr 18, 2010, at 17:20, MartinErni@aol.com wrote:

I saved an article from either Kitplanes or Sport Aviation on how to build
you on AOA indicator but have misplaced it. It was in the last couple of
years. Can anyone tell me where I might locate a copy.

Earnest

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Re: AOA

bob <bob2@...>
 

Here's a couple of places
CAS-cozy site AOA-page
INSTALLATION
I got my mini-helic gauge from Midwest US process control instrumentation rep for Honeywell, Siemens, ASCO, United Electric Controls - Lesman Instrument Company


On Apr 18, 2010, at 17:20, MartinErni@aol.com wrote:

I saved an article from either Kitplanes or Sport Aviation on how to build
you on AOA indicator but have misplaced it. It was in the last couple of
years. Can anyone tell me where I might locate a copy.

Earnest

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Re: AOA

MartinErni@...
 

Thanks Bob,
For some reason I can't get the pictures to come up or print on the
cas-cozy site. I don't know if it's my computer or the site.
Earnest

In a message dated 4/18/2010 6:40:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bob2@winco.net writes:

I'll try this differently:
http://www.cas-cozy.nl/efis/AOA.html
http://www.pipcom.com/~cowcam/aoainstal.htm
http://www.lesmaninst.com/ - gauge source

On Apr 18, 2010, at 17:20, MartinErni@aol.com wrote:

I saved an article from either Kitplanes or Sport Aviation on how to
build
you on AOA indicator but have misplaced it. It was in the last couple of
years. Can anyone tell me where I might locate a copy.

Earnest

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Re: Sun N Fun 2010 Report

Steve <sham@...>
 

Thanks for the update Mike.

----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Dwyer
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:53 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Sun N Fun 2010 Report



http://www.warnerair.com/q200/snf.html


Sun N Fun 2010 Report

Mike Dwyer <mdwyer@...>
 


Re: Sun N Fun 2010 Report

JMasal@...
 

Snf was just fine as usual. I had 3 shadows...my cuzzin (my age) who is a
fallen-away aviator (we used to share some hairy, tempestuous flying
escapades in our single youths) and a non-aviating couple who are developing an
interest in aircraft. The gal is lapping up everything I teach them and has
already picked out some favorite airplanes. That is fun.

I think there were a bit fewer airplanes and aircraft on display show-wide,
but plenty nonetheless. The Thunderbirds were a WOW and they flew 4 days
calling 2 as practice days but you couldn't tell it. They were ON for an
hour plus each time. The night airshow with fireworks shooting out the wings
and tails of 6 acts was inspiring (my 4th one but still great). Roy Shannon
had his really first class Quickie 1 there. I have seen it before but this
time I finally saw all the careful detail work he put into the plane. VERY
nice, Roy. No Q2's showed unless one came in late Sattiddy (yup, Dwyer did;
I left Satiddy morning). 2 nice Dflys were there on Fri... we have seen
these guys before.

Notable warburds: SB2C helldiver, Yak 9, a terrorizing B-25 gunship, P-39
Airacobra, DC-4, Carabou, C-17, 4 nice Titan T-51's in ultralights. A pile
of colorful RV's showed including a half dozen -10's and Harmon Rockets
each. Anybody remember the Wing Derringer from the late 60's, I think? Very
rare twin and very handsome. Rutan's pickleforks and clones were very thinly
represented. How times change! We're back to that antique aluminum material.
Turboprop installations slowly increasing. Lotsa vendors with glass
cockpit and nav gear slowly decreasing in size and price. Prolly 20-25 LSA's in
a corral and lookin better than our C-150 trainers.

Sunny, VERY windy and about 75-80 degrees all week... great camping!

I arrived with my 12 year old dome tent... and forgot the stakes (I haven't
practiced my cussing like that in quite a spell and was actually surprised
at the permutations I was voicing under my breath). Hadda put my rental
car spare tire in it to hold it down in the wind while I went for spikes at a
Home Depot in town. A coupla important fabric loops broke from rot so the
thing looked lopsided. It was a sad affair so I didn't bring it back!

I'll digest this and be ready for Oshkosh. j.


AOA

MartinErni@...
 

I saved an article from either Kitplanes or Sport Aviation on how to build
you on AOA indicator but have misplaced it. It was in the last couple of
years. Can anyone tell me where I might locate a copy.

Earnest


Re: Q-List Rules?

Mike Perry
 

I'm getting a lot less comments than I expected, and no clear consensus so far. Maybe this is only a subject that bothers me? Maybe everyone is out flying on the weekend?

Some guys with strong opinions in the past haven't been heard from. Speak up!

Mike


Re: Q-List Rules?

Keith Welsh <kfly@...>
 

Hi Steve,

I sold the 170 about 2 1/2 years ago largely due to inactivity.
Never considered this might happen to the Quickie seeing how I built it and all.
But neither can I see continuing to pay hangar rent, it is still parked beside the 170,
so I pay half but that adds up. The guy who bought the 170 is a local fellow who flies
the MD11 for FedEx out of Indy.

I'm working on getting a new business up going and that's my only focus, and now
with the fire and all flying is all but done for the foreseeable future.

Keith



From: Steve
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:55 PM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Q-List Rules?



Keith,
Sorry to here of your mifortune. I will put the word out. Do you still have your C170? Sold mine a couple of years ago.

Steve Ham

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Welsh
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Q-List Rules?

If the Q-list could be venturing in the an area if inactivity or dying as you say I have
something I've been considering for a while but holding off on until about a week ago.

About midnight last Saturday April 10 we had a fire which destroyed my utility building / shop.
We suspect the fire had some. Vicki was awoken at 1230 am to noise, a door closing, shortly
there after our motion detector light went on. She went outside and noticed embers rising from the rear of
the building. Our fire wood stack had been set a fire. By the time I got there it was to far along. Took the
fire dept a half hour to arrive and that was the end of that.

In the building was a pickup, 5th wheel camper, mower, diesel tractor w/ loader, backhoe and several implements (bushhog
box scraper, rear blade etc...) many tools, welder and on and on plus 30 years of memories. The fire
was so hot that nothing survived. I didn't even have a shovel and wheel barrel to fill the hole left when
a fire truck got stuck in the yard. The fire never got to the camper but was so hot we witnessed it
erupt. With the grand kids getting older and considering I haven't flown the Quickie in about 2 years and now
not sure when or if I'll fly it anytime soon I would like to see if anyone might be interested in it.

It is currently out of annual and was not made trailerable (fuselage cut) when I built it.
Many know of the bird it is Onan P220 powered N494K.

If anyone might be interested in it let me know and if the price is in the area I would like
I will consider selling it.

Thanks
Keith Welsh

From: Clive
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:41 AM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Q-List Rules?

Hi you guys

Live and let live, brilliant.
In this day and age we are all over-regulated world wide unless we want to live in a dictatorship.... I think not?
There is a wealth of info - chit chat and sometimes a bit of stupidity/naiveté. Anyone lucky enough to have a Q, has a great plane, some people on the list aspire to join our band, we need a little involvement from every one, and a nudge now and then.

Clive.........Goboxy

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, Brad Walker <bwalker@...> wrote:

Very true..

If a post starts to wander from what is acceptable, a friendly reminder
usually gets people back on track. In this world we live in, it's nice to
not have so many rules sometimes..

-brad w.

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Allan Farr <afarr@...> wrote:



In my opinion the Q-List is getting very quiet and is in danger of dying.
One of the main reasons for this is all the rules. Let people (within
reason) post what they want - let the list "live" for better or for worst.
Allan

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Spring Fling

Kevin Boddicker
 

The Spring Fling is only a short month away.
Hope to see everyone at KDEH.
If you are going to attend for sure please let me know, as I want to have enough lunch for everyone.
The hotel will hold rooms until the 10th of May.
Dan has the hotel info at his site, if you don't already know it.
The weather will be great!!!! Jerry is coming!!!!





Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B 162hrs
Luana, IA.


Re: Q-List Rules?

Kevin Boddicker
 

I agree with Raoul. Keep the performance list. It was started to let the more adventurous among us, have a place to trade ideas and stretch the limits.
I don't go to the site to receive mail. I have it sent to my box. I would not log on to Dan's site to see posts.
I don't think it is broke. Just fly it.


Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B 162 hrs
Luana, IA.



On Apr 17, 2010, at 1:41 PM, <raoborg@netscape.com> <raoborg@netscape.com> wrote:

Why not leave good enough alone? This is my brilliant idea for the day! Raoul

--- mccomb.jeff@gmail.com wrote:

From: "Jeff McComb" <mccomb.jeff@gmail.com>
To: <Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Q-List Rules?
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:44:25 -0500

I think it would be easier to follow the topics (and search archives) on a forum setup, but I also agree with Terry's point that having forums may mean that some stuff won't get noticed as much. I would think a max of 3 sub-forums; Q1, Q-2/Q-200, and Q-Engine? I don't really care whether the Q-200 engine is merged or not, although I think it'd be nice to have the files in the same area.

I personally find that the emails arguing where things do or don't belong more tedious than those which are on any Q topic, the only things I'd prefer not to see are political tangents... but delete works just fine for me regardless. Using email filters to direct all emails with "Q-List" in the subject line into one folder makes it pretty easy to sort out anything you don't want to read since it is all in one folder.

In regards to the comment of the list dying, I don't agree. Only lists/forums where people become rude or unhelpful die, people here in general have always been very helpful and nice. The amount of knowledge on our Qs can't be surpassed elsewhere, so whether it remains in a list format or forum format... I'll be there.

Jeff McComb
Now in Waller TX
Q-200
N3245B

----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Humble
To: Q-List
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 9:18 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Q-List Rules?

I am one of those that liked the two list idea, however since I have "retired" as editor, I changed my Yahoo Groups membership to getting all the emails in one composite email once a day. This allows me to scan the topics and skip the ones I don't want to read. This takes a lot less of my time. The down side is if you want to respond to an email, your always a day late. The recent diesel discussion would have prompted me to say move the discussion, but I just managed it from my end instead.

I think it would be nice to move the list to Dan Yager's new site, but old habits die hard.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

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Re: Q-List Rules?

raoborg@...
 

Why not leave good enough alone? This is my brilliant idea for the day! Raoul

--- mccomb.jeff@gmail.com wrote:

From: "Jeff McComb" <mccomb.jeff@gmail.com>
To: <Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Q-List Rules?
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:44:25 -0500

I think it would be easier to follow the topics (and search archives) on a forum setup, but I also agree with Terry's point that having forums may mean that some stuff won't get noticed as much. I would think a max of 3 sub-forums; Q1, Q-2/Q-200, and Q-Engine? I don't really care whether the Q-200 engine is merged or not, although I think it'd be nice to have the files in the same area.

I personally find that the emails arguing where things do or don't belong more tedious than those which are on any Q topic, the only things I'd prefer not to see are political tangents... but delete works just fine for me regardless. Using email filters to direct all emails with "Q-List" in the subject line into one folder makes it pretty easy to sort out anything you don't want to read since it is all in one folder.

In regards to the comment of the list dying, I don't agree. Only lists/forums where people become rude or unhelpful die, people here in general have always been very helpful and nice. The amount of knowledge on our Qs can't be surpassed elsewhere, so whether it remains in a list format or forum format... I'll be there.


Jeff McComb
Now in Waller TX
Q-200
N3245B

----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Humble
To: Q-List
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 9:18 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Q-List Rules?



I am one of those that liked the two list idea, however since I have "retired" as editor, I changed my Yahoo Groups membership to getting all the emails in one composite email once a day. This allows me to scan the topics and skip the ones I don't want to read. This takes a lot less of my time. The down side is if you want to respond to an email, your always a day late. The recent diesel discussion would have prompted me to say move the discussion, but I just managed it from my end instead.

I think it would be nice to move the list to Dan Yager's new site, but old habits die hard.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974













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Re: Q-List Rules?

Mike Perry
 

Several People wrote on the theme that we have "too many rules." Perhaps they are right. However, this discussion has been going on among the moderators for several months, and in the process I reviewed much of the old archives. The part relevant to having two lists or one is from the fall of 2003. Q-List wasn't quiet but it was totally chaotic and crazy ("crazy" = dangerous advice). You might want to read the archives from Sept to Nov 2003.

That doesn't mean we need to keep the rule now we made in 2003. My feeling is, we should agree to the rule and be sure everyone understands it OR we should discard it.

We really don't have many rules on this list. The original rules of this group (Q-ListEtiquette.txt in the files section) has only two kinds of rules: 1) This is how Yahoo groups works (post files, not attachments; Where to go to change posting status, etc.)
2) Basic E-mail etiquette (sign your E-mail, subject line, copy only what is relevant, basic courtesy, warn members of long posts, etc.)

Part of the original guidelines included "do not attack or threaten others." That has since been expanded to "no politics or religion unless directly related to aviation." I do have a strong feeling we need to keep this -- too many ugly flights otherwise. I note that some valuable international members were driven away by political fights.

The only other rule is the one I want to discuss here: two lists vs. one.

Mike Perry

Allan Farr wrote:


In my opinion the Q-List is getting very quiet and is in danger of dying.
One of the main reasons for this is all the rules. Let people (within
reason) post what they want - let the list "live" for better or for worst.
Allan



Re: Q-List Rules?

Steve <sham@...>
 

Keith,
Sorry to here of your mifortune. I will put the word out. Do you still have your C170? Sold mine a couple of years ago.



Steve Ham

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Welsh
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Q-List Rules?



If the Q-list could be venturing in the an area if inactivity or dying as you say I have
something I've been considering for a while but holding off on until about a week ago.

About midnight last Saturday April 10 we had a fire which destroyed my utility building / shop.
We suspect the fire had some. Vicki was awoken at 1230 am to noise, a door closing, shortly
there after our motion detector light went on. She went outside and noticed embers rising from the rear of
the building. Our fire wood stack had been set a fire. By the time I got there it was to far along. Took the
fire dept a half hour to arrive and that was the end of that.

In the building was a pickup, 5th wheel camper, mower, diesel tractor w/ loader, backhoe and several implements (bushhog
box scraper, rear blade etc...) many tools, welder and on and on plus 30 years of memories. The fire
was so hot that nothing survived. I didn't even have a shovel and wheel barrel to fill the hole left when
a fire truck got stuck in the yard. The fire never got to the camper but was so hot we witnessed it
erupt. With the grand kids getting older and considering I haven't flown the Quickie in about 2 years and now
not sure when or if I'll fly it anytime soon I would like to see if anyone might be interested in it.

It is currently out of annual and was not made trailerable (fuselage cut) when I built it.
Many know of the bird it is Onan P220 powered N494K.

If anyone might be interested in it let me know and if the price is in the area I would like
I will consider selling it.

Thanks
Keith Welsh

From: Clive
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:41 AM
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Q-List Rules?

Hi you guys

Live and let live, brilliant.
In this day and age we are all over-regulated world wide unless we want to live in a dictatorship.... I think not?
There is a wealth of info - chit chat and sometimes a bit of stupidity/naiveté. Anyone lucky enough to have a Q, has a great plane, some people on the list aspire to join our band, we need a little involvement from every one, and a nudge now and then.

Clive.........Goboxy

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, Brad Walker <bwalker@...> wrote:
>
> Very true..
>
> If a post starts to wander from what is acceptable, a friendly reminder
> usually gets people back on track. In this world we live in, it's nice to
> not have so many rules sometimes..
>
> -brad w.
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Allan Farr <afarr@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > In my opinion the Q-List is getting very quiet and is in danger of dying.
> > One of the main reasons for this is all the rules. Let people (within
> > reason) post what they want - let the list "live" for better or for worst.
> > Allan
> >
>
>
>
>







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Re: Q-List Rules?

Jeff McComb
 

I think it would be easier to follow the topics (and search archives) on a forum setup, but I also agree with Terry's point that having forums may mean that some stuff won't get noticed as much. I would think a max of 3 sub-forums; Q1, Q-2/Q-200, and Q-Engine? I don't really care whether the Q-200 engine is merged or not, although I think it'd be nice to have the files in the same area.

I personally find that the emails arguing where things do or don't belong more tedious than those which are on any Q topic, the only things I'd prefer not to see are political tangents... but delete works just fine for me regardless. Using email filters to direct all emails with "Q-List" in the subject line into one folder makes it pretty easy to sort out anything you don't want to read since it is all in one folder.

In regards to the comment of the list dying, I don't agree. Only lists/forums where people become rude or unhelpful die, people here in general have always been very helpful and nice. The amount of knowledge on our Qs can't be surpassed elsewhere, so whether it remains in a list format or forum format... I'll be there.


Jeff McComb
Now in Waller TX
Q-200
N3245B

----- Original Message -----
From: Doug Humble
To: Q-List
Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 9:18 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Q-List Rules?



I am one of those that liked the two list idea, however since I have "retired" as editor, I changed my Yahoo Groups membership to getting all the emails in one composite email once a day. This allows me to scan the topics and skip the ones I don't want to read. This takes a lot less of my time. The down side is if you want to respond to an email, your always a day late. The recent diesel discussion would have prompted me to say move the discussion, but I just managed it from my end instead.

I think it would be nice to move the list to Dan Yager's new site, but old habits die hard.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974


Re: Q-List Rules?

Rick Hole
 

I like to think of it more as guidelines than rules. The more I think about
it the less I want to see only one forum. If we put all the discussions
into Q-List there is no place for the farther-out topics to go that will
only annoy the more traditional builder. Well, I could drop the email
delivery and read the posts on the website and only look at threads that are
of interest. Thouble is there I would only end up checking in one a day or
less.

So I suggest keeping the performance list. And not be too hard on people if
they start a topic on the wrong list. A nudge usually works.

Moving to Dan's site? Do we still get email delivery or have to go to the
website?

Rick


Re: Q-List Rules?

Doug Humble <hawkidoug@...>
 

I am one of those that liked the two list idea, however since I have "retired" as editor, I changed my Yahoo Groups membership to getting all the emails in one composite email once a day. This allows me to scan the topics and skip the ones I don't want to read. This takes a lot less of my time. The down side is if you want to respond to an email, your always a day late. The recent diesel discussion would have prompted me to say move the discussion, but I just managed it from my end instead.

I think it would be nice to move the list to Dan Yager's new site, but old habits die hard.

Doug "Hawkeye" Humble
A Sign Above www.asignabove.net
Omaha NE
N25974

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