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Re: Q2 Project on Barnstormers.com

Jim Patillo
 

Mark Summers from Livermore has a Q200/0200 with a GU canard. It is one fast airplane!

Jim Patillo

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, "Martin" <mskiby@...> wrote:

It is pretty nice. I requested some photo's and it seems like a nice plane. I believe it has the GU canard, thus I had to pass as I would be putting an 0200 on it. But it looks like a very nice plane for a great price.

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, "Brad" <them_beans@> wrote:

Just came across this Q2 Project for sale on barnstormers.com:

http://www.barnstormers.com/cat.php?mode=listing&main=

If the link doesn't work, Search: Q2 Project

Brad

Brad Boyd
Q2 N11FK
Wilmington, DE


Re: Q2 Project on Barnstormers.com

Martin Skiby
 

It is pretty nice. I requested some photo's and it seems like a nice plane. I believe it has the GU canard, thus I had to pass as I would be putting an 0200 on it. But it looks like a very nice plane for a great price.

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, "Brad" <them_beans@...> wrote:

Just came across this Q2 Project for sale on barnstormers.com:

http://www.barnstormers.com/cat.php?mode=listing&main=

If the link doesn't work, Search: Q2 Project

Brad

Brad Boyd
Q2 N11FK
Wilmington, DE


Q2 Project on Barnstormers.com

Brad <them_beans@...>
 

Just came across this Q2 Project for sale on barnstormers.com:

http://www.barnstormers.com/cat.php?mode=listing&main=

If the link doesn't work, Search: Q2 Project

Brad

Brad Boyd
Q2 N11FK
Wilmington, DE


Re: fairly low glass-transition

dkeats <dkeats@...>
 

Regarding the sagging canards. In the beginning of the Dragonfly with Rex Taylor supporting them, he mentioned in one of the news letters that his prop was getting closer and closer to the ground as time went on. He had a Mark 1 with the lighter built canard. To solve the problem, he got some canned milk [don't ask why milk] and mixed it with some black carbon. He raised the fuselage and let the canard hang and spread the black mixture over the top of the canard. Left in the sun, it sagged back to position and he then washed it of. May sound like urban legend , but it was in the newsletter. Canada Chris


Excellent video of a vehicle slightly more powerful than our Q's

Kevin Sheeley
 


Re: Rubber Ring Help

One Sky Dog
 

Jon,

Ditch the rubbers, this is proven close to 1000 hrs., and you can do it in
your hanger.

_http://www.n56ml.com/spinner/?39bca8e0_
(http://www.n56ml.com/spinner/?39bca8e0)

Regards,

Charlie

In a message dated 12/13/2010 8:33:31 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
jon@finleyweb.net writes:


Hi all,

I am looking for help to find something. Problem is, I don't even know
what to call that something...

I have an aluminum "disk" bolted to the front of my propeller which serves
as a spinner "bulkhead". Around this disk I run a length of rubber hose
that is split (making it kinda U shaped). The hose only stays put for about
5 hours before it starts coming off. I've tried all sorts of things to
secure it as well as "glue" the ends together (to make it continuous) but
nothing seems to work.

I'd like to find a 10.125" diameter rubber ring (continuous) that has a U
cross section. Anybody know what to call this or where I might find one?

Thanks,

Jon Finley
P.S. I thought about making a glass "adapter" between the disk and spinner
like I've seen in Q-Talk (Lynn French, I think??) but the rubber ring
works nicely (but doesn't stay put).

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Wings

Martin Skiby
 

Anyone know of a set of wings available? I need an LS canard and main wing also. Jsut starting to set up the table to start mine, but if there are some done I am interested.

Thanks


Re: Rubber Ring Help

Martin Skiby
 

Maybe try making a silicone ring using a sheet of plastic so it does not bond to the spinner and just the aluminum ring. I like the foam and glass ring that fits tightly around the crush plate and silicone it into the spinner. I flew my TriQ like that for 300 hrs with no issues at all. Also several Ezes for hundreds of hours also.

Easy and cheap to do.

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Finley" <jon@...> wrote:


Hi all,

I am looking for help to find something. Problem is, I don't even know what to call that something...

I have an aluminum "disk" bolted to the front of my propeller which serves as a spinner "bulkhead". Around this disk I run a length of rubber hose that is split (making it kinda U shaped). The hose only stays put for about 5 hours before it starts coming off. I've tried all sorts of things to secure it as well as "glue" the ends together (to make it continuous) but nothing seems to work.

I'd like to find a 10.125" diameter rubber ring (continuous) that has a U cross section. Anybody know what to call this or where I might find one?

Thanks,

Jon Finley
P.S. I thought about making a glass "adapter" between the disk and spinner like I've seen in Q-Talk (Lynn French, I think??) but the rubber ring works nicely (but doesn't stay put).

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Re: Rubber Ring Help

Martin Skiby
 

This method has worked for me perfectly for seveal planes and hindreds of hours. You can also just silicone it into the spinner if you wish. Not expensive and works great.

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...> wrote:

Someone told me about using Clark foam, glassing both sides and cutting
out the center to tightly fit over the prop hub. Through trial and
error, the foam/glass piece is sanded in a taper to fit the nose cone.
Works for me.
Jerry

On 12/13/2010 11:06 AM, Jim P wrote:


Jon,

I had Ron Saber make me a tapered aluminum front bulkhead crushplate
about the thickness of the original 0200 crush plate (3/8"?). I then
wrapped rubber "fusion" tape around the bulkhead to create, in effect,
a large o ring that stays attached to the aluminum bulkhead. This
works great for keeping the spinner centered.

Jim

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>, "Jon
Finley" <jon@> wrote:


Hi all,

I am looking for help to find something. Problem is, I don't even
know what to call that something...

I have an aluminum "disk" bolted to the front of my propeller which
serves as a spinner "bulkhead". Around this disk I run a length of
rubber hose that is split (making it kinda U shaped). The hose only
stays put for about 5 hours before it starts coming off. I've tried
all sorts of things to secure it as well as "glue" the ends together
(to make it continuous) but nothing seems to work.

I'd like to find a 10.125" diameter rubber ring (continuous) that
has a U cross section. Anybody know what to call this or where I might
find one?

Thanks,

Jon Finley
P.S. I thought about making a glass "adapter" between the disk and
spinner like I've seen in Q-Talk (Lynn French, I think??) but the
rubber ring works nicely (but doesn't stay put).

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Re: Rubber Ring Help

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Someone told me about using Clark foam, glassing both sides and cutting
out the center to tightly fit over the prop hub. Through trial and
error, the foam/glass piece is sanded in a taper to fit the nose cone.
Works for me.
Jerry

On 12/13/2010 11:06 AM, Jim P wrote:


Jon,

I had Ron Saber make me a tapered aluminum front bulkhead crushplate
about the thickness of the original 0200 crush plate (3/8"?). I then
wrapped rubber "fusion" tape around the bulkhead to create, in effect,
a large o ring that stays attached to the aluminum bulkhead. This
works great for keeping the spinner centered.

Jim

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>, "Jon
Finley" <jon@...> wrote:


Hi all,

I am looking for help to find something. Problem is, I don't even
know what to call that something...

I have an aluminum "disk" bolted to the front of my propeller which
serves as a spinner "bulkhead". Around this disk I run a length of
rubber hose that is split (making it kinda U shaped). The hose only
stays put for about 5 hours before it starts coming off. I've tried
all sorts of things to secure it as well as "glue" the ends together
(to make it continuous) but nothing seems to work.

I'd like to find a 10.125" diameter rubber ring (continuous) that
has a U cross section. Anybody know what to call this or where I might
find one?

Thanks,

Jon Finley
P.S. I thought about making a glass "adapter" between the disk and
spinner like I've seen in Q-Talk (Lynn French, I think??) but the
rubber ring works nicely (but doesn't stay put).



Re: Rubber Ring Help

Jim Patillo
 

Jon,

I had Ron Saber make me a tapered aluminum front bulkhead crushplate about the thickness of the original 0200 crush plate (3/8"?). I then wrapped rubber "fusion" tape around the bulkhead to create, in effect, a large o ring that stays attached to the aluminum bulkhead. This works great for keeping the spinner centered.

Jim

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, "Jon Finley" <jon@...> wrote:


Hi all,

I am looking for help to find something. Problem is, I don't even know what to call that something...

I have an aluminum "disk" bolted to the front of my propeller which serves as a spinner "bulkhead". Around this disk I run a length of rubber hose that is split (making it kinda U shaped). The hose only stays put for about 5 hours before it starts coming off. I've tried all sorts of things to secure it as well as "glue" the ends together (to make it continuous) but nothing seems to work.

I'd like to find a 10.125" diameter rubber ring (continuous) that has a U cross section. Anybody know what to call this or where I might find one?

Thanks,

Jon Finley
P.S. I thought about making a glass "adapter" between the disk and spinner like I've seen in Q-Talk (Lynn French, I think??) but the rubber ring works nicely (but doesn't stay put).



Rubber Ring Help

Jon Finley <jon@...>
 

Hi all,

I am looking for help to find something. Problem is, I don't even know what to call that something...

I have an aluminum "disk" bolted to the front of my propeller which serves as a spinner "bulkhead". Around this disk I run a length of rubber hose that is split (making it kinda U shaped). The hose only stays put for about 5 hours before it starts coming off. I've tried all sorts of things to secure it as well as "glue" the ends together (to make it continuous) but nothing seems to work.

I'd like to find a 10.125" diameter rubber ring (continuous) that has a U cross section. Anybody know what to call this or where I might find one?

Thanks,

Jon Finley
P.S. I thought about making a glass "adapter" between the disk and spinner like I've seen in Q-Talk (Lynn French, I think??) but the rubber ring works nicely (but doesn't stay put).


Re: Oshkosh 2011

Martin Skiby
 

You know I bet they will all be welcome. Burt had influence on all these designs. More info will certainly come out closer to the event.

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, mitch hargin <hargin@...> wrote:

Where would the E-Racer fit in?  Is it a poor stepchild?   I'd like a special parking spot.....

--- On Sun, 12/12/10, Brett Gerber <bgerber@...> wrote:

From: Brett Gerber <bgerber@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Oshkosh 2011
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 8:46 AM







 









I have not seen this come across our group, but would the Quickie or Dragonfly go under the category of a Burt Rutan designed aircraft?



Also, being newer to the Q-list, do we have a gathering/meal at Oshkosh as a group?







Brett Gerber



Ft. Wayne, Indiana











Brett Douglas Gerber



D.O. McComb and Sons Funeral Home



(260) 426- 9494







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From: Guido <gbisogno@...>

To: canard-aviators@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 11:30 am

Subject: [c-a] Oshkosh 2011







Quote:



EAA is working with builder, owner, and pilot groups to encourage a major gathering of Burt Rutan-designed aircraft at AirVenture 2011, and will also create a special parking area for them on the flightline. Well-known Rutan aircraft designs will also be on prominent display and serve as a backdrop for various presentations during the week, as well as featured in the afternoon air show on Thursday, July 29.

Individuals with Rutan-designed aircraft flying to AirVenture or who are looking to participate in the Rutan tribute festivities are asked to email their interest to Rutan2011@... <mailto:Rutan2011%40eaa.org> .









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Re: Rubber Ring Help

MartinErni@...
 

In a message dated 12/13/2010 10:33:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
jon@finleyweb.net writes:


I'd like to find a 10.125" diameter rubber ring (continuous) that has a U
cross section. Anybody know what to call this or where I might find one?




Sounds like a condom to me.
E


Re: DAR Inspection

Fisher Paul A. <fisherpaula@...>
 

Congratulations Joseph! Too bad the weather isn't cooperating! Hopefully things will settle down when you actually want to fly.

Good Luck!

- Paul

From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph M Snow
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 19:51
To: QBA; Corvaircraft; David Aivalotis; Brian Chalmers; Martha Dyer; jalexsnow@yahoo.com; Jennifer.Kassen@7hills.org; Cornelius Murray; Diana Muzina; Kathi Muzina; Danielle Muzina; David Muzina; Susie Richardson; Dr. Schutte; rebeccasnow1123@earthlink.net; Andy Snow; Corrie Bergeron; Richard Rich Butler; Ronald Cola; Ron Congdon; William Bill G. Cook; Dick Crihfield; Mitchell Cronig; Bob Curtis; Larry Diemand; Peter DiRenzo; EAA Chapter Co-ord; John R. Esterle; Ted Fails; Brian Geoffrion; Louis & Linda Herman; Richard Hullihen; John G. Johnson; Ed Keyse; Bob Leske; Caroline Connie Lutha; Robert & Donna Ondrick; Richard Dick & Anita Philpott; Frank E. Porath; Gary &amp; Irene Swanson; Roger J. Toth; Howard & Barb Van Driest; John Waldron; whateverdon@msn.com; BP Wisniewski; Fred Wuest
Subject: [Q-LIST] DAR Inspection



Hello Everyone,

Today N240JS passed its FAA inspection. It now has a Special Airworthiness Certificate. Flight testing can begin for the next 40 hours....

However, we are expecting bilzzard conditions over the next four days...

Joseph
N240JS, Q2xx
www.corvairq.info
Euclid, Ohio


Re: fairly low glass-transition

quickieflyer <quickieflying@...>
 

Charlie, That's a pretty stupid thing to say...... I don't repeat things on a hunch, it was a clip from an experimental aircraft magazine, i.e. I read it not hear it.
As for the question on the color it was yellow and maybe a little to dark, and yes I've seen this airplane. My Q has been repainted a little yellow and after a lot of hot days I didn't see any heat ranges that concerned me.
David Q-200

--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, oneskydog@... wrote:

Sounds like an urban rumor. Safe t Poxy has a T sub g of over 190 degrees
F. Now if it was built out of West Systems it could be believable.

I have a hard time with this claim. The under surface and the shear web of
the spar would not get hot enough because of all of the insulation on top
of the glass (foam).

Any pictures of article to substantiate?

Regards,

Charlie Johnson
Ogden, Utah


In a message dated 12/10/2010 10:14:19 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
quickieflying@... writes:

Does anyone remember the example of a plane reaching the TS of G at
Oshkosh?
A DragonFly named "JED" came in that year and watched his plane sag to the
point of not being able to fly it out. A group gathered together and
covered the canard in black plastic putting it in tension and waiting for
the TsG to take place. He was able later to fly out after the post cure
took
place.
David Q200

A bit of background on my question: I'm working on a 6 meter / 18 feet wing
for an unmanned glider. Due to weight restrictions we might need to use a
bare carbon fiber wing. The UV problem is acceptable (limited life), but
the
epoxy has a fairly low glass-transition temperature (Tg). Judging from the
graph, our wing theoretically could heat up to its Tg while it is nearly
freezing outside! I guess we will need to monitor the skin temperature, or
cover the wing while on the ground.
Regards,
Rob






Re: DAR Inspection

hargin
 

Way to go Joe!!!
Mitch
Tri Q2 covered with snow in the hangar...

--- On Sun, 12/12/10, John Loram <johnl@loram.org> wrote:

From: John Loram <johnl@loram.org>
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] DAR Inspection
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 1:18 AM







 









Congratulations, Joseph!



-john-



_____



From: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of

Joseph M Snow

Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 5:51 PM

To: QBA; Corvaircraft; David Aivalotis; Brian Chalmers; Martha Dyer;

jalexsnow@yahoo.com; Jennifer.Kassen@7hills.org; Cornelius Murray; Diana

Muzina; Kathi Muzina; Danielle Muzina; David Muzina; Susie Richardson; Dr.

Schutte; rebeccasnow1123@earthlink.net; Andy Snow; Corrie Bergeron; Richard

Rich Butler; Ronald Cola; Ron Congdon; William Bill G. Cook; Dick Crihfield;

Mitchell Cronig; Bob Curtis; Larry Diemand; Peter DiRenzo; EAA Chapter

Co-ord; John R. Esterle; Ted Fails; Brian Geoffrion; Louis & Linda Herman;

Richard Hullihen; John G. Johnson; Ed Keyse; Bob Leske; Caroline Connie

Lutha; Robert & Donna Ondrick; Richard Dick & Anita Philpott; Frank E.

Porath; Gary &amp; Irene Swanson; Roger J. Toth; Howard & Barb Van Driest;

John Waldron; whateverdon@msn.com; BP Wisniewski; Fred Wuest

Subject: [Q-LIST] DAR Inspection



Hello Everyone,



Today N240JS passed its FAA inspection. It now has a Special Airworthiness

Certificate. Flight testing can begin for the next 40 hours....



However, we are expecting bilzzard conditions over the next four days...



Joseph

N240JS, Q2xx

www.corvairq.info

Euclid, Ohio



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Re: Oshkosh 2011

hargin
 

Where would the E-Racer fit in?  Is it a poor stepchild?   I'd like a special parking spot.....

--- On Sun, 12/12/10, Brett Gerber <bgerber@domccombandsons.com> wrote:

From: Brett Gerber <bgerber@domccombandsons.com>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Oshkosh 2011
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 8:46 AM







 









I have not seen this come across our group, but would the Quickie or Dragonfly go under the category of a Burt Rutan designed aircraft?



Also, being newer to the Q-list, do we have a gathering/meal at Oshkosh as a group?







Brett Gerber



Ft. Wayne, Indiana











Brett Douglas Gerber



D.O. McComb and Sons Funeral Home



(260) 426- 9494







-----Original Message-----

From: Guido <gbisogno@yahoo.com>

To: canard-aviators@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 11:30 am

Subject: [c-a] Oshkosh 2011







Quote:



EAA is working with builder, owner, and pilot groups to encourage a major gathering of Burt Rutan-designed aircraft at AirVenture 2011, and will also create a special parking area for them on the flightline. Well-known Rutan aircraft designs will also be on prominent display and serve as a backdrop for various presentations during the week, as well as featured in the afternoon air show on Thursday, July 29.

Individuals with Rutan-designed aircraft flying to AirVenture or who are looking to participate in the Rutan tribute festivities are asked to email their interest to Rutan2011@eaa.org <mailto:Rutan2011%40eaa.org> .









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Re: fairly low glass-transition

One Sky Dog
 

David,

Sorry to ruffle your feathers, I still do not believe a Dragonfly built
out of Safe-T-Poxy per plan would exceed the HDT of the resin and sag into an
un flyable condition then be resurrected with black plastic at Oshkosh
without a huge article in Sport Aviation. I have never heard of this and I
have all the newsletters.

Sorry without the hard copy and pictures I cannot buy it. But I do concede
there is a lot of crap built out there. I do not mean to sound like I am
questioning your integrity there may have been under the surface build
problems that caused the problem.

I know there was one Q2 built out of slabs instead of billet foam that
crashed from a flying surface failure after attempting to warp it back in the
sun.

Regards,

Charlie Johnson
Ogden, Utah

In a message dated 12/12/2010 3:36:24 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
quickieflying@comcast.net writes:

Charlie, That's a pretty stupid thing to say...... I don't repeat things
on a hunch, it was a clip from an experimental aircraft magazine, i.e. I
read it not hear it.
As for the question on the color it was yellow and maybe a little to dark,
and yes I've seen this airplane. My Q has been repainted a little yellow
and after a lot of hot days I didn't see any heat ranges that concerned me.
David Q-200



--- In Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com, oneskydog@... wrote:

Sounds like an urban rumor. Safe t Poxy has a T sub g of over 190
degrees
F. Now if it was built out of West Systems it could be believable.

I have a hard time with this claim. The under surface and the shear web
of
the spar would not get hot enough because of all of the insulation on
top
of the glass (foam).

Any pictures of article to substantiate?

Regards,

Charlie Johnson
Ogden, Utah


In a message dated 12/10/2010 10:14:19 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
quickieflying@... writes:

Does anyone remember the example of a plane reaching the TS of G at
Oshkosh?
A DragonFly named "JED" came in that year and watched his plane sag to
the
point of not being able to fly it out. A group gathered together and
covered the canard in black plastic putting it in tension and waiting
for
the TsG to take place. He was able later to fly out after the post cure
took
place.
David Q200


Re: Oshkosh 2011

Isaksson Roger <scratchdeeper@...>
 

If Quickie would not have been, would Dragonfly be??? Who knows, but I seem to
remember some controversy at the time, where accusations about stealing ideas
and I think even some lawsuits was in the air, between QAC and the Dragonfly.
whatever came out of that ...I don't know, but as with other canards that are
closely related to Varieze and Longeze, and the Quickie line, ....I don't think
I am far of saying that they are all there because of one man, Burt Rutan.

Historians have tried to replay the second world war, using , what if''s, and
that has induced long and deep arguments for and against certain outcomes.

I think that is all pretty meaningless, the wars ended the way they did, and the
Rutan Craze happened the way it did, and ut of it came all these excellent ,
either originally designed aircrafts, or derivative designed aircrafts that we
today enjoy.

Roger



________________________________
From: Brett Gerber <bgerber@domccombandsons.com>
To: Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, December 12, 2010 6:46:37 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Oshkosh 2011

 
I have not seen this come across our group, but would the Quickie or Dragonfly
go under the category of a Burt Rutan designed aircraft?


Also, being newer to the Q-list, do we have a gathering/meal at Oshkosh as a
group?



Brett Gerber

Ft. Wayne, Indiana





Brett Douglas Gerber

D.O. McComb and Sons Funeral Home

(260) 426- 9494



-----Original Message-----
From: Guido <gbisogno@yahoo.com>
To: canard-aviators@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, Dec 10, 2010 11:30 am
Subject: [c-a] Oshkosh 2011



Quote:

EAA is working with builder, owner, and pilot groups to encourage a major
gathering of Burt Rutan-designed aircraft at AirVenture 2011, and will also
create a special parking area for them on the flightline. Well-known Rutan
aircraft designs will also be on prominent display and serve as a backdrop for
various presentations during the week, as well as featured in the afternoon air
show on Thursday, July 29.
Individuals with Rutan-designed aircraft flying to AirVenture or who are looking
to participate in the Rutan tribute festivities are asked to email their
interest to Rutan2011@eaa.org <mailto:Rutan2011%40eaa.org> .




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