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Re: (unknown)

Sam Hoskins
 

Deems apparently has a virus and his computer is sending out crap. I
changed his e-mail privileges for the group, so you shouldn't be getting any
more.

Sam

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Rick <r.hole@...> wrote:





Are these messages from Mr Herring real or spam? With no text, just a link
I would never consider following the link to find out.
Rick
N1711Q Instrument panel ready to paint and reassemble!

--- In Q-LIST@..., Deems Herring <dsleepy47@...> wrote:

http://softmobile.110mb.com/find11.html

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(No subject)

Rick Hole
 

Are these messages from Mr Herring real or spam? With no text, just a link I would never consider following the link to find out.
Rick
N1711Q Instrument panel ready to paint and reassemble!

--- In Q-LIST@..., Deems Herring <dsleepy47@...> wrote:

http://softmobile.110mb.com/find11.html



Alternative Engine Round-Up #8

Patrick P <panzera@...>
 

Friends,

In case you haven't got the word yet, CONTACT! Magazine's Alternative Engine Round up has moved from our digs in Jean NV to coincide with the Golden West Fly-in at Marysville, CA. The date is set for Saturday, June 11th, about two weeks from now.

The cool part is I've worked it out so that those who fly in with an Experimental aircraft that's powered by an alternative engine (including certified engines that have been modified enough to be considered "alternative"... I'll let YOU decide if that's the case), will have the fees for that day waved, and we'll get preferred parking near the hangar that will host the forums.

Here are the details:
http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2011-05_roundup.asp

This move takes a lot of pressure off the skeleton crew that has hosted it for the past 7 years and hopefully the infrastructure will be more appealing to those who fly-in.

Please pass this along to any other groups you might belong to, that might have an interest in participating in this event.

Thanks!!!

Pat Panzera
Editor@...


Re: Glen Marshman’s RANS S-9 Chaos

Pat Panzera <panzera@...>
 

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 11:02 PM, <Armilite@...> wrote:

Pat:

Have you ever done an article on converting a snowmobile 583, 617, 670,
engine for airplane use? Maybe, one built by one of the 4-5 guys that sell
them commerically, and that have been doing it for at least a few  years now?

No I haven't. Not that I have anything against publishing such an
article, but rather that no one has ever submitted one.

Pat


There is a guy using a Rotax 583(97hp) snowmobile engine conversion in a
Aerobatics stunt plane at airshows. The article is in the EAA Experimeter
under,
Glen Marshman’s RANS S-9 Chaos
This article originally appeared in the May issue of EAA  Sport Aerobatics

http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2011-04_rans.asp
(http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2011-04_rans.asp)

It says, he runs it at 7500rpm's. It doesn't talk about the  service life
or maintence of the engine he use's on the show circuit. I would  think, it's
tore down and inspected more than a conventional Rotax plane  engine.

Rich Gillen
Ames, IA


Re: Glen Marshman’s RANS S-9 Chaos

Reggie <Reggie@...>
 

Armilite@... wrote:

Pat:

Have you ever done an article on converting a snowmobile 583, 617, 670,
engine for airplane use? Maybe, one built by one of the 4-5 guys that sell
them commerically, and that have been doing it for at least a few > SNIP<years now?
, he runs it at 7500rpm's. It doesn't talk about the service life
or maintence of the engine he use's on the show circuit. I would think, it's
tore down and inspected more than a conventional Rotax plane engine.

Rich Gillen
Ames, IA
***********************************************************
WHY ????
There was the Super Quickie... That didn't turn out to
be such a wildly desired conversion......

Why put any propeller driven engine through the torment
of shutting off the lubrication supply ( fuel/oil mix ) and having your descent speed run up the prop speed....????
Rather like batting with a sticky wicket ....


Reggie


Re: Digest Number 4384

Bill Allen
 

Thanks Rich, - i got it now
Bill

On 30 May 2011 02:10, <Armilite@...> wrote:



Bill:

I e-mailed it to you direct. It's under Get More Cooling Capacity From
Your Radiator in the recent Experimentor.

Can't view this email? _Click here to read the online version_
(
http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=189026419&sid=13832313&m=1377773&u=ExAA&s=http://www
.eaa.org/experimenter/issues/1105.html) . _SUBSCRIBE HERE.
_
(
http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=189026419&sid=13832314&m=1377773&u=ExAA&s=http://www.eaa.org/subscribe/)

Rich Gillen
Ames, IA



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In a message dated 5/29/2011 4:54:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
Q-LIST@... writes:

1a. Re: Good short article on cooling for water cooled engines.
Posted by: "Bill Allen" billallensworld@... longezn99ba
Date: Sat May 28, 2011 3:11 am ((PDT))

Hi Rich,

I couldn't get the link to work; could you maybe give the name of the
article so I could search the EAA website?

Bill Allen

On 27 May 2011 23:07, <Armilite@...> wrote:



Good short article on cooling for water cooled engines in airplanes.

Does anyone know if Rotax's 582/618UL radiators are single, double,
triple
staged, cooled?

Rich Gillen
Ames, IA


_
http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=189026419&sid=13832343&m=1377773&u=ExAA
&s=http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2009-06_radiator.asp_
(
http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=189026419&sid=13832343&m=1377773&u=ExAA&s=http://
www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2009-06_radiator.asp)

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Glen Marshman’s RANS S-9 Chaos

Rich Gillen
 

Pat:

Have you ever done an article on converting a snowmobile 583, 617, 670,
engine for airplane use? Maybe, one built by one of the 4-5 guys that sell
them commerically, and that have been doing it for at least a few years now?

There is a guy using a Rotax 583(97hp) snowmobile engine conversion in a
Aerobatics stunt plane at airshows. The article is in the EAA Experimeter
under,
Glen Marshman’s RANS S-9 Chaos
This article originally appeared in the May issue of EAA Sport Aerobatics

_http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2011-04_rans.asp_
(http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2011-04_rans.asp)

It says, he runs it at 7500rpm's. It doesn't talk about the service life
or maintence of the engine he use's on the show circuit. I would think, it's
tore down and inspected more than a conventional Rotax plane engine.

Rich Gillen
Ames, IA


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1b. Re: ADV: Re: [Q-LIST] Good short article on cooling for water cooled
Posted by: "Pat Panzera" panzera@... pat_panzera
Date: Sat May 28, 2011 5:36 am ((PDT))

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 3:10 AM, Bill Allen
<billallensworld@...>wrote:

Hi Rich,

I couldn't get the link to work; could you maybe give the name of the
article so I could search the EAA website?
www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2009-06_radiator.asp

Get More Cooling Capacity From Your RadiatorBy Phyllis Ridings-Murawski and
Bud Warren


Re: Digest Number 4384

Rich Gillen
 

Bill:

I e-mailed it to you direct. It's under Get More Cooling Capacity From
Your Radiator in the recent Experimentor.

Can't view this email? _Click here to read the online version_
(http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=189026419&sid=13832313&m=1377773&u=ExAA&s=http://www
.eaa.org/experimenter/issues/1105.html) . _SUBSCRIBE HERE.
_
(http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=189026419&sid=13832314&m=1377773&u=ExAA&s=http://www.eaa.org/subscribe/)
Rich Gillen
Ames, IA


============================================================================
============================================================================
======

In a message dated 5/29/2011 4:54:19 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
Q-LIST@... writes:

1a. Re: Good short article on cooling for water cooled engines.
Posted by: "Bill Allen" billallensworld@... longezn99ba
Date: Sat May 28, 2011 3:11 am ((PDT))

Hi Rich,

I couldn't get the link to work; could you maybe give the name of the
article so I could search the EAA website?

Bill Allen

On 27 May 2011 23:07, <Armilite@...> wrote:



Good short article on cooling for water cooled engines in airplanes.

Does anyone know if Rotax's 582/618UL radiators are single, double,
triple
staged, cooled?

Rich Gillen
Ames, IA


_
http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=189026419&sid=13832343&m=1377773&u=ExAA
&s=http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2009-06_radiator.asp_
(
http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=189026419&sid=13832343&m=1377773&u=ExAA&s=http://
www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2009-06_radiator.asp)

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Re: Trip Report May 28 2011 Q200

Jorj Baker
 

Mike,

Thanks for posting the video. Looks like you are shooting with a CMOS sensor in your camera because of the effect on the prop appearing as a horizontal line.

Is something missing from the video? It runs 6:16 and you have closing titles, and then the video continues to run to 19:25 as blackness, or at least I didn't see anything.

I'm definitely not a Quickie builder but like the design and if I had a bit more time and money ...

Best,

Jorj

www.jbdigitalcinema.com

----- Original Message -----
From: planedude_99
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 11:13 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Trip Report May 28 2011 Q200



Trip report
Saturday, May 28 the plan was to go to Deland Florida for lunch and watch the parachuters while we have lunch. Takeoff from PIE was at 1130 AM. The temperature is pushing 85 F. Very light winds and no rain expected. I posted a video on the Vimeo website of the take off.

http://www.vimeo.com/24367935

This is a 720P video, 300 MB so really only people with high speed connections probably can see this video. Takeoff from PIE over the top of Tampa was uneventful. Landing at Deland was a little scary. There are usually hundreds of parachute jumpers, typically three jump planes with them loading 50 at a time. So with all the parachuters you really don't want it to a full pattern there. A base turn is about all you really want to do. So when I turn final I reported a mile out, looked like things were going to work out until this ultralight trike started heading to the runway. I was on the radio reporting that I was about one 10th of a mile final but got no reaction from the ultralight, obviously no radio. I considered a go around but there were parachutes in the air also and they tend to fly right over runway five. Luckily the ultralight got going and I was able to touch down and slow down enough so that I didn't even go under him. It would not have been pretty if he wanted to go back to the runway tho. I know Q's are fairly invisible but this guy was blind.

So we get to the perfect place restaurant had a nice Cuban sandwich while we watch the parachuters float down. Most made pretty good landings some face planted. The flight back was very uneventful but warm. It was showing 78°F outside at 4500 feet and 88° F inside the cockpit. Lots of sun, puffy white clouds against the blue sky. The base of the clouds was about 5000 feet. Got in about 1.5 hours of flying time, a good way to spend a Saturday.
Get your Q done and join us one day!
Mike Q200 N3QP





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Trip Report May 28 2011 Q200

Mike Dwyer
 

Trip report
Saturday, May 28 the plan was to go to Deland Florida for lunch and watch the parachuters while we have lunch. Takeoff from PIE was at 1130 AM. The temperature is pushing 85 F. Very light winds and no rain expected. I posted a video on the Vimeo website of the take off.

http://www.vimeo.com/24367935

This is a 720P video, 300 MB so really only people with high speed connections probably can see this video. Takeoff from PIE over the top of Tampa was uneventful. Landing at Deland was a little scary. There are usually hundreds of parachute jumpers, typically three jump planes with them loading 50 at a time. So with all the parachuters you really don't want it to a full pattern there. A base turn is about all you really want to do. So when I turn final I reported a mile out, looked like things were going to work out until this ultralight trike started heading to the runway. I was on the radio reporting that I was about one 10th of a mile final but got no reaction from the ultralight, obviously no radio. I considered a go around but there were parachutes in the air also and they tend to fly right over runway five. Luckily the ultralight got going and I was able to touch down and slow down enough so that I didn't even go under him. It would not have been pretty if he wanted to go back to the runway tho. I know Q's are fairly invisible but this guy was blind.

So we get to the perfect place restaurant had a nice Cuban sandwich while we watch the parachuters float down. Most made pretty good landings some face planted. The flight back was very uneventful but warm. It was showing 78°F outside at 4500 feet and 88° F inside the cockpit. Lots of sun, puffy white clouds against the blue sky. The base of the clouds was about 5000 feet. Got in about 1.5 hours of flying time, a good way to spend a Saturday.
Get your Q done and join us one day!
Mike Q200 N3QP


Re: Fuselage trimming

Robert Bounds
 

Go down to your local hardware store and buy a "multi-tool". Fein made the original and it's still the best one out there. However, the cheaper ones (Craftsman, Rockwell, Harbor Freight) work fine. You might need to buy an after market circular blade made of high speed steel. The one with my harbor freight tool was junk. These things are the greatest thing ever for slicing cured glass. No problem with delamination and they cut fast. I love mine and use it a lot. Buy one and you won't regret it.
Bounds

----- Original Message -----
From: oneskydog@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 7:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Fuselage trimming



Neal,

Glass is best cut using a grit edged blade either tungsten carbide or
diamond work well with light feed.
Carbon steel blades designed for metal or wood lose the cutting edge
quickly due to the abrasive nature of glass. The tooth also tends to delaminate
the material next to the cut. Both hacksaw blades and jigsaw blades are
available in grit form that stays sharp and basically sands away the material.
Feeding to fast generates excess heat and can clog the grit with melted
epoxy.

Try and use a backup material to minimize backside fraying.

Regards,

Charlie Johnson
Ogden, Uta


Re: Fuselage trimming

n200qt@ymail.com
 

Charlie,

Thanks for the tips. I'll get some new blades and let you know how it goes.

Neal




________________________________
From: "oneskydog@..." <oneskydog@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 7:49:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Fuselage trimming


Neal,

Glass is best cut using a grit edged blade either tungsten carbide or
diamond work well with light feed.
Carbon steel blades designed for metal or wood lose the cutting edge
quickly due to the abrasive nature of glass. The tooth also tends to delaminate
the material next to the cut. Both hacksaw blades and jigsaw blades are
available in grit form that stays sharp and basically sands away the material.
Feeding to fast generates excess heat and can clog the grit with melted
epoxy.

Try and use a backup material to minimize backside fraying.

Regards,

Charlie Johnson
Ogden, Utah


In a message dated 5/28/2011 6:29:39 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
novcom2012@... writes:

Neal,

I looked in Issue #10. There is a SHORT paragraph on Fuselage Trimming.
They recommend using a work/trouble light to view the tape edges and mark
it with a soft lead pencil.
They don't say with side of the tape to cut on.
They recommend using a handheld hacksaw blade to cut with. Warning that a
jigsaw will delaminate the sandwitch.
I had no problem with the jigsaw. I used a NEW, fine-toothed metal blade.
Suggest you cut a short distance then inspect VERY CAREFULLY how well it
cut before proceeding.
As with anything, talk to as many people that you can who have already
done it, and then use your best judgement.

I will look in the other issues and see if I see anything else.

Ron Cross

--- In Q-LIST@..., "n200qt@..." <n200qt@...> wrote:

Thanks Sam!

I think I need 'QuickTalk' issue # 10 which is one that I don't
currently have. Ron Cross posted a picture that shows him "trimming the tape
away"

as you suggested. I'll do some more looking and see what I can come up
with.

Thanks for everyone's help!!!

Neal

--- In Q-LIST@..., Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@> wrote:

It's somewhere in the archives. I think you trim the tape away.

You better verify though. Look in very old QAC newsletters and issues
of
Q-talk.

Sam
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:08 AM, n200qt@ <n200qt@> wrote:
>


All, I picked up an unstarted Q-200 kit last year and now I've
started to
build. As I read thru the construction plans (and the few
QUICKTALK/Q-Talk
issues I have), I'm having a hard time locating which trim lines to
cut too.
I can clearly see the tape lines that were used in the molds, BUT the
question is do I trim to the top of the tape line or the bottom?
> > Thanks for any inputs!

Neal Andersen


>

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>
------------------------------------

Quickie Builders Association WEB site
http://www.quickiebuilders.org

Yahoo! Groups Links

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Re: Fuselage trimming

n200qt@ymail.com
 

Ron,

I'm heading to work on my project this morning and I'll measure as you
suggested. I'll let you know if that works or not.


Thanks for the suggestion.

Neal




________________________________
From: Ron Cross <novcom2012@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 6:54:12 AM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Fuselage trimming


Neal,

Just something to consider.....
Let's say you were to trim the fuselage LEAVING the "tapes".
The foreward edge of the forward fuselage is FS14.
The backend of the rear fuselage is at FS200.
Measure the lower-forward fuselage from the front to the rear (including the
"tapes").
Measure the lower-rear fuselage from the front to the rear (including the "tape"
at the forward edge).

Do you end up with a total of 186 inches? (FS200 - FS14).
Would the FS175 bulkhead fit into the rear fuselage at FS175?
Just an idea to think about.

Of course if you DID leave the "tapes" when trimming, and it does not look
right, you could always recut, and trim them off.

Ron

--- In Q-LIST@..., "Ron Cross" <novcom2012@...> wrote:

Neal,

I looked in Issue #10. There is a SHORT paragraph on Fuselage Trimming. They
recommend using a work/trouble light to view the tape edges and mark it with a
soft lead pencil.
They don't say with side of the tape to cut on.
They recommend using a handheld hacksaw blade to cut with. Warning that a
jigsaw will delaminate the sandwitch.
I had no problem with the jigsaw. I used a NEW, fine-toothed metal blade.
Suggest you cut a short distance then inspect VERY CAREFULLY how well it cut
before proceeding.
As with anything, talk to as many people that you can who have already done it,
and then use your best judgement.

I will look in the other issues and see if I see anything else.

Ron Cross


--- In Q-LIST@..., "n200qt@" <n200qt@> wrote:

Thanks Sam!

I think I need 'QuickTalk' issue # 10 which is one that I don't currently
have. Ron Cross posted a picture that shows him "trimming the tape away" as you
suggested. I'll do some more looking and see what I can come up with.

Thanks for everyone's help!!!

Neal

--- In Q-LIST@..., Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@> wrote:

It's somewhere in the archives. I think you trim the tape away.

You better verify though. Look in very old QAC newsletters and issues of
Q-talk.

Sam

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:08 AM, n200qt@ <n200qt@> wrote:



All, I picked up an unstarted Q-200 kit last year and now I've started
to
build. As I read thru the construction plans (and the few
QUICKTALK/Q-Talk
issues I have), I'm having a hard time locating which trim lines to cut
too.
I can clearly see the tape lines that were used in the molds, BUT the
question is do I trim to the top of the tape line or the bottom?

Thanks for any inputs!

Neal Andersen





Re: Fuselage trimming

Ron Cross <novcom2012@...>
 

Neal,

Just something to consider.....
Let's say you were to trim the fuselage LEAVING the "tapes".
The foreward edge of the forward fuselage is FS14.
The backend of the rear fuselage is at FS200.
Measure the lower-forward fuselage from the front to the rear (including the "tapes").
Measure the lower-rear fuselage from the front to the rear (including the "tape" at the forward edge).

Do you end up with a total of 186 inches? (FS200 - FS14).
Would the FS175 bulkhead fit into the rear fuselage at FS175?
Just an idea to think about.

Of course if you DID leave the "tapes" when trimming, and it does not look right, you could always recut, and trim them off.

Ron

--- In Q-LIST@..., "Ron Cross" <novcom2012@...> wrote:

Neal,

I looked in Issue #10. There is a SHORT paragraph on Fuselage Trimming. They recommend using a work/trouble light to view the tape edges and mark it with a soft lead pencil.
They don't say with side of the tape to cut on.
They recommend using a handheld hacksaw blade to cut with. Warning that a jigsaw will delaminate the sandwitch.
I had no problem with the jigsaw. I used a NEW, fine-toothed metal blade. Suggest you cut a short distance then inspect VERY CAREFULLY how well it cut before proceeding.
As with anything, talk to as many people that you can who have already done it, and then use your best judgement.

I will look in the other issues and see if I see anything else.

Ron Cross


--- In Q-LIST@..., "n200qt@" <n200qt@> wrote:

Thanks Sam!

I think I need 'QuickTalk' issue # 10 which is one that I don't currently have. Ron Cross posted a picture that shows him "trimming the tape away" as you suggested. I'll do some more looking and see what I can come up with.

Thanks for everyone's help!!!

Neal

--- In Q-LIST@..., Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@> wrote:

It's somewhere in the archives. I think you trim the tape away.

You better verify though. Look in very old QAC newsletters and issues of
Q-talk.

Sam

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:08 AM, n200qt@ <n200qt@> wrote:



All, I picked up an unstarted Q-200 kit last year and now I've started to
build. As I read thru the construction plans (and the few QUICKTALK/Q-Talk
issues I have), I'm having a hard time locating which trim lines to cut too.
I can clearly see the tape lines that were used in the molds, BUT the
question is do I trim to the top of the tape line or the bottom?

Thanks for any inputs!

Neal Andersen



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Good short article on cooling for water cooled engines.

Pat Panzera <panzera@...>
 

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 3:10 AM, Bill Allen <billallensworld@...>wrote:

Hi Rich,

I couldn't get the link to work; could you maybe give the name of the
article so I could search the EAA website?
www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2009-06_radiator.asp

Get More Cooling Capacity From Your RadiatorBy Phyllis Ridings-Murawski and
Bud Warren





Bill Allen

On 27 May 2011 23:07, <Armilite@...> wrote:



Good short article on cooling for water cooled engines in airplanes.

Does anyone know if Rotax's 582/618UL radiators are single, double,
triple
staged, cooled?

Rich Gillen
Ames, IA


_
http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=189026419&sid=13832343&m=1377773&u=ExAA
&s=http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2009-06_radiator.asp_
(
http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=189026419&sid=13832343&m=1377773&u=ExAA&s=http://
www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2009-06_radiator.asp)









------------------------------------

Quickie Builders Association WEB site
http://www.quickiebuilders.org

Yahoo! Groups Links





Re: Fuselage trimming

Ron Cross <novcom2012@...>
 

Neal,

I looked in Issue #10. There is a SHORT paragraph on Fuselage Trimming. They recommend using a work/trouble light to view the tape edges and mark it with a soft lead pencil.
They don't say with side of the tape to cut on.
They recommend using a handheld hacksaw blade to cut with. Warning that a jigsaw will delaminate the sandwitch.
I had no problem with the jigsaw. I used a NEW, fine-toothed metal blade. Suggest you cut a short distance then inspect VERY CAREFULLY how well it cut before proceeding.
As with anything, talk to as many people that you can who have already done it, and then use your best judgement.

I will look in the other issues and see if I see anything else.

Ron Cross

--- In Q-LIST@..., "n200qt@..." <n200qt@...> wrote:

Thanks Sam!

I think I need 'QuickTalk' issue # 10 which is one that I don't currently have. Ron Cross posted a picture that shows him "trimming the tape away" as you suggested. I'll do some more looking and see what I can come up with.

Thanks for everyone's help!!!

Neal

--- In Q-LIST@..., Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@> wrote:

It's somewhere in the archives. I think you trim the tape away.

You better verify though. Look in very old QAC newsletters and issues of
Q-talk.

Sam

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:08 AM, n200qt@ <n200qt@> wrote:



All, I picked up an unstarted Q-200 kit last year and now I've started to
build. As I read thru the construction plans (and the few QUICKTALK/Q-Talk
issues I have), I'm having a hard time locating which trim lines to cut too.
I can clearly see the tape lines that were used in the molds, BUT the
question is do I trim to the top of the tape line or the bottom?

Thanks for any inputs!

Neal Andersen





Re: Good short article on cooling for water cooled engines.

Bill Allen
 

Hi Rich,

I couldn't get the link to work; could you maybe give the name of the
article so I could search the EAA website?

Bill Allen

On 27 May 2011 23:07, <Armilite@...> wrote:



Good short article on cooling for water cooled engines in airplanes.

Does anyone know if Rotax's 582/618UL radiators are single, double, triple
staged, cooled?

Rich Gillen
Ames, IA


_
http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=189026419&sid=13832343&m=1377773&u=ExAA
&s=http://www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2009-06_radiator.asp_
(
http://www.eaaonline.org/link.cfm?r=189026419&sid=13832343&m=1377773&u=ExAA&s=http://
www.eaa.org/experimenter/articles/2009-06_radiator.asp)

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Re: Fuselage trimming

One Sky Dog
 

Neal,

Glass is best cut using a grit edged blade either tungsten carbide or
diamond work well with light feed.
Carbon steel blades designed for metal or wood lose the cutting edge
quickly due to the abrasive nature of glass. The tooth also tends to delaminate
the material next to the cut. Both hacksaw blades and jigsaw blades are
available in grit form that stays sharp and basically sands away the material.
Feeding to fast generates excess heat and can clog the grit with melted
epoxy.

Try and use a backup material to minimize backside fraying.

Regards,

Charlie Johnson
Ogden, Utah

In a message dated 5/28/2011 6:29:39 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
novcom2012@... writes:

Neal,

I looked in Issue #10. There is a SHORT paragraph on Fuselage Trimming.
They recommend using a work/trouble light to view the tape edges and mark
it with a soft lead pencil.
They don't say with side of the tape to cut on.
They recommend using a handheld hacksaw blade to cut with. Warning that a
jigsaw will delaminate the sandwitch.
I had no problem with the jigsaw. I used a NEW, fine-toothed metal blade.
Suggest you cut a short distance then inspect VERY CAREFULLY how well it
cut before proceeding.
As with anything, talk to as many people that you can who have already
done it, and then use your best judgement.

I will look in the other issues and see if I see anything else.

Ron Cross


--- In Q-LIST@..., "n200qt@..." <n200qt@...> wrote:

Thanks Sam!

I think I need 'QuickTalk' issue # 10 which is one that I don't
currently have. Ron Cross posted a picture that shows him "trimming the tape away"
as you suggested. I'll do some more looking and see what I can come up
with.

Thanks for everyone's help!!!

Neal

--- In Q-LIST@..., Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@> wrote:

It's somewhere in the archives. I think you trim the tape away.

You better verify though. Look in very old QAC newsletters and issues
of
Q-talk.

Sam
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:08 AM, n200qt@ <n200qt@> wrote:
>


All, I picked up an unstarted Q-200 kit last year and now I've
started to
build. As I read thru the construction plans (and the few
QUICKTALK/Q-Talk
issues I have), I'm having a hard time locating which trim lines to
cut too.
I can clearly see the tape lines that were used in the molds, BUT the
question is do I trim to the top of the tape line or the bottom?
> > Thanks for any inputs!

Neal Andersen


>

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Good short article on cooling for water cooled engines.

Rich Gillen
 

Good short article on cooling for water cooled engines in airplanes.

Does anyone know if Rotax's 582/618UL radiators are single, double, triple
staged, cooled?

Rich Gillen
Ames, IA


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Re: Fuselage trimming

n200qt@ymail.com
 

Thanks Sam!

I think I need 'QuickTalk' issue # 10 which is one that I don't currently have. Ron Cross posted a picture that shows him "trimming the tape away" as you suggested. I'll do some more looking and see what I can come up with.

Thanks for everyone's help!!!

Neal

--- In Q-LIST@..., Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

It's somewhere in the archives. I think you trim the tape away.

You better verify though. Look in very old QAC newsletters and issues of
Q-talk.

Sam

On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:08 AM, n200qt@... <n200qt@...> wrote:



All, I picked up an unstarted Q-200 kit last year and now I've started to
build. As I read thru the construction plans (and the few QUICKTALK/Q-Talk
issues I have), I'm having a hard time locating which trim lines to cut too.
I can clearly see the tape lines that were used in the molds, BUT the
question is do I trim to the top of the tape line or the bottom?

Thanks for any inputs!

Neal Andersen




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