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Livermore Fly-in, MARK YOUR CALENDARS!

millenniumflier@...
 

Greetings, Q-Listers,

NOT to be outdone by our esteemed colleague and September Fly-in host, Sam Hoskins, we, Alan T. and Sam Kittle, want to officially remind all pilots, builders and hopefuls about the 10th Annual West Coast Tandem-Wing Fly-in, scheduled for August 26-28, coming up in no time at all! That's right, celebrating ten years of tandem-wing flying in Livermore, California, is what our commemorative anniversary event will be all about, so mark your calendars now for another great weekend of flying, learning, sharing and enjoying everything these marvelous airplanes have to offer. So many of you have already made it out to our Livermore event in the past, and have seen 1st hand, all the interesting things that are going on out here in Livermore, LVK, home of 6 Q Birds.? This year, our tenth, promises to be the most exciting yet.

We have just finalized our main speaker for the three-day event, who is just as excited about attending, as we are in having him with us.? Marc Zeitlin will be talking about things ranging from his work on Space Ship 2 and the rocket engine that powers Burt Rutan's latest design into space, to Belville washers, and what happens when a prop departs from your plane....? He is endlessly energetic, enthusiastic, an accomplished homebuilder, having built a Q-2 AND a Cozy, and is a most captivating speaker.

Capping off the events on Saturday will be our world-famous barbecued chicken dinner prepared by our very own Sam Kittle, who is himself making great progress on his Q-200.

Mark your calendars now for August 26-28, and be a part of what has become a not-to-be-missed event. Anyone building a Tandem-Wing Q or Dragonfly, or is contemplating just that, will receive a renewed burst of enthusiasm in seeing the many beautiful planes that do make it to the event. You East-Coasters, why not plan on coming to Livermore, see the country on your way back east, and then stop off at Sam's in Illinois, two? weeks later for the Field of Dreams?? What better way to put our planes to use, and to become ambassadors for our marvelous flying machines to those along the way who have never seen one before!

Please let myself, Alan, or Sam know that you are planning on attending, so that we can make sure we will have enough food for the Saturday evening barbecue. Alan: ?? millenniumflier@..., or 510-427-3432??? Sam:? skittle@... or 209-559-0903.

I will be updating the official fly-in website very shortly for hotel and arrival information, so stay tuned!

Looking forward to seeing the biggest crowd ever here at Livermore,? August 26-28, for our commemorative 10 year anniversary fly-in!

Alan Thayer and Sam Kittle, Co-hosts

NOTE:? Here is a quick biographical sketch on our main speaker this year, Marc Zeitlin:

Marc was born and raised in NYC and NJ. He graduated
from MIT in the dim, dark past with a BS and MS in Aeronautical
Engineering, back in the old days when engineering was done with
pencils and slide rules (and we walked to school barefoot uphill both
ways in the snow). His thesis involved getting paid to go to school
and build remote control gliders. Before coming to Scaled Composites
in 2005, he spent approximately 20 years in the medical field,
designing arthroscopic instruments, infusion pumps, intensive care
unit monitors, defibrillators, and other sundry items to assist in
medical care. He received two patents for infusion pump and
defibrillator paddle technologies.

Since joining Scaled Composites, Marc has worked on numerous projects, including X-37, various pods, and for the past three years has headed up the rocket motor development for the SpaceShip2 program.? He attempts to meddle in as many places as he can.

In the early 1980's, flush with money after graduating and while
living in a very cheap house and not having a family to support, Marc
built a Q-2, starting in 1981 and completing the plane in 1985. He
never flew the plane, but a subsequent owner did, and last Marc heard,
it was owned by Jason Frisbie in AZ. In 1995, Marc began
construction of a COZY MKIV and first flight occurred in 2002. Marc
currently has over 750 hours on the plane. He runs the COZY mailing
list and unofficial builders web site, and is the official COZY
technical support person for ACS, who own the COZY MK IV plans.


Re: [Dragonflylist] Re: First Start (UNCLASSIFIED)

Pat Panzera <panzera@...>
 

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 2:58 PM, Jim P <logistics_engineering@...> wrote:
Congratulations you ole SkyDog,

Looks like you're close. Maybe in time for the Livermore Flyin?
I want a ride............I want a ride!

Jim, you DO realize it's powered by that funky Corvair automobile
engine I've been promoting for the past 10 years don't you?

BTW, when it the Livermore event this year???


Jim P.
Q200 N46JP


Re: September Field of Dreams

Rick Hole
 

I've served on DC3 flights to the Bahamas twice recently with Missionary
Flights International. Granted, it's a bit bigger than the Q, but still, a
taildragger is a taildragger! I am one of their volunteers trained as
flight attendants.

Q200- N1711Q update: Scott Swing is busily working on the airframe. The
interior was removed, washed, dyed and stabilized and looks like brand new.
Fuel lines are replaced. We anticipate installing the new instrument panel
this week. It will have a fresh paint job as part of the re-conditioning.

It'll be hard to keep away from by then. Get the engine running. Test
flight and fly off hours around the airport, and put it into service.

Rick Hole



So, Mike:

I would like to see a TW or Canard Fly-in in January at Laughlin NV or
on the California Coast. Can't seem to talk anyone out here into that.
Maybe a TW fly-in in January in the Bahamas??? (No one will come from
Illinois!!!)

Mike Perry


Re: September Field of Dreams

Mike Perry
 

So, Mike:

I would like to see a TW or Canard Fly-in in January at Laughlin NV or
on the California Coast. Can't seem to talk anyone out here into that.
Maybe a TW fly-in in January in the Bahamas??? (No one will come from
Illinois!!!)

Mike Perry

On 6/20/2011 2:19 PM, Mike Dwyer wrote:


Someday I'll make it up north. Problem is my employer thinks I need to
be there before they will pay me! Hardly gives me enough time to
squeeze in a vacation and the wife likes to snorkel the Caribbean! Now
if the fly in was in the Bahamas.... Mike Q200 N3QP
http://www.warnerair.com/q200/
To: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
From: sam.hoskins@... <mailto:sam.hoskins%40gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:44:53 -0500
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] September Field of Dreams

Great, Dave. Glad you can make it.

Now, we have to work on Mr. Dwyer.

Sam


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Dave Dugas <davedq2@...
<mailto:davedq2%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

**


Sam,
Have you ever thought of a career in advertising? I think you
missed your
calling. Rod Herzig, with his Cozy, and I in Q2 N68DD are planning
on being
there (for the ribs).
Dave Dugas

--- On Sat, 6/18/11, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...
<mailto:sam.hoskins%40gmail.com>> wrote:

From: Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...
<mailto:sam.hoskins%40gmail.com>>
Subject: [Q-LIST] September Field of Dreams
To:
Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 1:53 PM




Summer is here, so it's time to start talking about our annual
Field of
Dreams Fly-in. As you recall, this year's fly-in will be held at
Marion, IL
on September 9, 10, & 11.

Read all about it here:
http://southernillinoisfieldofdreams.blogspot.com/
The web site has travel, lodging, and other information.

Ladies invited! Check out the web site!.

Besides the change in venue, we will having a few other changes
this year.
First off, I am inviting all canard aircraft, so we
are welcoming Vari-Ezes, Longs, Burkuts, and anything else that
has a wing
in the front. The more, the merrier.

Second, we will be having a Fly-In breakfast on Saturday, hosted
by EAA
Chapter 277.

So, take a look at the web site, set the date aside and make your
travel
plans.

Best wishes.

Sam Hoskins
http://southernillinoisfieldofdreams.blogspot.com/











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Re: September Field of Dreams

Mike Dwyer
 

Someday I'll make it up north. Problem is my employer thinks I need to be there before they will pay me! Hardly gives me enough time to squeeze in a vacation and the wife likes to snorkel the Caribbean! Now if the fly in was in the Bahamas.... Mike Q200 N3QP http://www.warnerair.com/q200/

To: Q-LIST@...
From: sam.hoskins@...
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:44:53 -0500
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] September Field of Dreams

Great, Dave. Glad you can make it.

Now, we have to work on Mr. Dwyer.

Sam


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Dave Dugas <davedq2@...> wrote:

**


Sam,
Have you ever thought of a career in advertising? I think you missed your
calling. Rod Herzig, with his Cozy, and I in Q2 N68DD are planning on being
there (for the ribs).
Dave Dugas

--- On Sat, 6/18/11, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

From: Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] September Field of Dreams
To:
Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 1:53 PM




Summer is here, so it's time to start talking about our annual Field of
Dreams Fly-in. As you recall, this year's fly-in will be held at Marion, IL
on September 9, 10, & 11.

Read all about it here: http://southernillinoisfieldofdreams.blogspot.com/
The web site has travel, lodging, and other information.

Ladies invited! Check out the web site!.

Besides the change in venue, we will having a few other changes this year.
First off, I am inviting all canard aircraft, so we
are welcoming Vari-Ezes, Longs, Burkuts, and anything else that has a wing
in the front. The more, the merrier.

Second, we will be having a Fly-In breakfast on Saturday, hosted by EAA
Chapter 277.

So, take a look at the web site, set the date aside and make your travel
plans.

Best wishes.

Sam Hoskins
http://southernillinoisfieldofdreams.blogspot.com/











------------------------------------

Quickie Builders Association WEB site
http://www.quickiebuilders.org

Yahoo! Groups Links



Re: September Field of Dreams

Sam Hoskins
 

Great, Dave. Glad you can make it.

Now, we have to work on Mr. Dwyer.

Sam

On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Dave Dugas <davedq2@...> wrote:

**


Sam,
Have you ever thought of a career in advertising? I think you missed your
calling. Rod Herzig, with his Cozy, and I in Q2 N68DD are planning on being
there (for the ribs).
Dave Dugas

--- On Sat, 6/18/11, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

From: Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] September Field of Dreams
To:
Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 1:53 PM




Summer is here, so it's time to start talking about our annual Field of
Dreams Fly-in. As you recall, this year's fly-in will be held at Marion, IL
on September 9, 10, & 11.

Read all about it here: http://southernillinoisfieldofdreams.blogspot.com/
The web site has travel, lodging, and other information.

Ladies invited! Check out the web site!.

Besides the change in venue, we will having a few other changes this year.
First off, I am inviting all canard aircraft, so we
are welcoming Vari-Ezes, Longs, Burkuts, and anything else that has a wing
in the front. The more, the merrier.

Second, we will be having a Fly-In breakfast on Saturday, hosted by EAA
Chapter 277.

So, take a look at the web site, set the date aside and make your travel
plans.

Best wishes.

Sam Hoskins
http://southernillinoisfieldofdreams.blogspot.com/

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Re: First Flight !!

Richard <mylittlemgb@...>
 

Sanjay, Great to here about your first flight. Ready to hear more about how your next test flights go. Are you up to visitor yet to see your new bird? I will be up your way in Aug. and would like to meet you and see your plane.

Richard
(FLAPS)

--- In Q-LIST@..., "Sanjay Dhall" <sdhall@...> wrote:

It finally happened !!!
My Quickie Q-200 took to the air today for the first time. What a thrill!
After months of taxiing and tweaking, and with considerable apprehension in
my ability to deal with the unknowns, and after listening to the advice of
several of you, I finally took my Q-200 on its maiden flight today.
It had been a great day for any flying, with winds below 5 knots all day
with temps in the 70's. I felt bummed all day that I missed the early
morning opportunity to make the first flight, and somewhat dejected at
myself for not being able to face the reality of actually making the first
flight. The thought of handing the job to a test pilot did cross my mind.
But my EAA flight advisor was available this evening. I had proposed that I
fly this evening. He came over to the hangar and spent time with me
generally gaging my state of mind. He gave me many outs. A friend came over
with a video camera.
I had spoken to the tower before the flight and they were ready with
emergency vehicles, and were ready to assist as needed, and were OK with
flying directly over the airport above pattern alt.
KYIP 7:30pm. temp 78. Willow Run is a pretty big airport with long and wide
runways. I decided on RWY 23L 7500 x 150'.
Taxied out, did an engine run up, and mag check. Left mag sputtered. oops.
Do I turn back.
After running that mag a few extra seconds it cleared up, and ran smooth. I
can still turn around and go back. Kept on rolling towards the runway.
Lined up at the very end of 23L. One last check of engine temps, pressures,
gages. All in range.
Decision point. Deep breath. Applied full power. No turning back now!
Concentrated on staying on the centerline and watching for any nose up or
tail up tendency. A quick glance at the airspeed ~80. The nose dropped a
little, so pulled up slightly and it was off the ground and going faster.
The left canard dropped just a little, and easily corrected. Airspeed
quickly crossed 110, so I started climbing out. Quickly climbed to about
2000' AGL airspeed about 140mph as I turned crosswind, then downwind. Engine
showed 2600 rpm. Cut back to 2300 rpm. Still climbing, cut power some more
and leveled. Since Willow Run is underneath the Detroit Class B airspace,
could not climb too much higher.
Performed a simulated landing at 2000' right over RWY 23L. During this
process I noted that the speeds were just not coming down as quickly as
required. Arrived at 2000' alt. approximately at midpoint of the RWY. This
was useful at it told me that for the actual landing I need to make a
shallower approach and reduce speeds further.
Descended into pattern alt, cut power. The Q does not seem to want to lose
speed and alt together quickly. Still going 115 on final turn. But did make
a fairly shallow approach. Crossed the threshold at about 95. Once below 95
I did note a tendency to rock back and forth in the roll axis. Left canard
down, left canard up, left canard down... Maybe it was me over correcting.
Dont know what my speed was now but seemed a whole lot slower than the rest
of the flight. Just kept on approaching the runway. And then it was down, a
slight bounce, but it stuck, and now the familiar part from the last many
months of taxiing. Taxied back. Total flying time ~12minutes. Friend and
onlookers were cheering. BTW, the friendly tower folks who had been watching
and assisting me in my taxiing up and down the runways in the recent past,
must have been relieved. Many surely wondered if this thing was ever going
to fly.
Well, today it did!
I am thankful to so many of you, for your help, advice and support. Today's
flight would have been far more difficult without it.
thanks
Sanjay


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Re: Q-tube and Quicker. . .

quickheads
 

Thanks Lynn,
I'm doing some soul searching about my current project that I'll write about in the next newsletter. In the meantime, I'll just continue to try and be the best newletter and web editor I know how to be. I appreciate the encouraging words even in lieu of cash! LOL!

I've been really happy with the response from all of you guys about the website. I'm glad you're getting some use out of it, and as always I appreciate any feedback you might have (good or bad.) I may not always be able to handle every issue or suggestion immediately, but believe me, all of your suggestions will end up somewhere on the "to do" list!

Warm regards,
Dan Yager
QBA Editor
www.quickheads.com

On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:08:40 -0500, L.J. French wrote:
Dan,
My guess is that you put way more effort into all this technology
than most of us realize. I just want to say a big thank you for all
the work you put into giving us a great way to share experiences,
ideas and buy/sell opportunities. The increased traffic speaks to the
success of your work. Until you are better paid - thanks again.

LJ French

Short & simple from my mobile


Re: Vertical Power VP-X

Jon Swenson
 

Jay,

I work as a pre-wire specialist at SteinAir. I havn't installed a VP-X myself but I asked the guys here who have and are installing VP systems on custom panels for the likes of RV 10's and LanceAirs. In our humble opinion it would be hard to put enough GeeWizz stuff in a Q to warrant the expense and difficulty of this installation. However if you feel the need to enhance your horizons, learn a bunch of new stuff and have your airplane grounded for awhile, go for it, that's the beauty of a homebuilt.

Heartily

Jon Swenson
Most Sr, Jr Wire Tech
TriQvair2 90% done

--- In Q-LIST@..., scheevel@... wrote:

Hi Guys,

Having more money than sense at this point (and not an excessive amount of either), I am considering installing the Vertical Power VP-X in my plane to handle all the electrical switching, circuit management/breaking and status reporting from a single device.

It seems like a neat little gizmo for a guy like me because it will allow me to customize/modify the installation after the electrical system is already fully installed in the plane. One of the nice things about it, is that it allows you to use any type of switch for everything without regard to current requirements of the device. This is because the switching is actually done inside the VP-X box, with the manual switch simply alerting the electronics in the box to activate the circuit and manage it according to programmed preferences. Circuit breaker limits can be changed in software as necessary and things like trim, starter, etc. can be programmed to be deactivated or desensitized as a function of airspeed, engine rpm and the like. It reports all status items to the EFIS and allows custom reconfiguration by plugging in an ethernet cable from a PC.

Has anyone in this group got any experience with this device (it is relatively new on the market)? They seem to have a lot of support documentation and videos on their site. One that I found extremely helpful, probably to anyone new to wiring is a generic document about the top 10 aircraft wiring mistakes. Link is:

http://www.verticalpower.com/docs/Top_10_Wiring_Mistakes.pdf

Cheers,
Jay Scheevel -- Tri-Q, still building


Re: Fuselage trimming

n200qt@ymail.com
 

All,

After much delay, I was able to make it out to work on the Q. I was able to
determine that I needed to "cut away" the tape line.

Thanks everyone for inputs!

Neal Andersen

P.S. Congrats on your first flight Sanjay. I hope to follow in a few years!




________________________________
From: Neal Andersen <n200qt@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 10:30:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Fuselage trimming


Charlie,

Thanks for the tips. I'll get some new blades and let you know how it goes.

Neal

________________________________
From: "oneskydog@..." <oneskydog@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 7:49:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: Fuselage trimming

Neal,

Glass is best cut using a grit edged blade either tungsten carbide or
diamond work well with light feed.
Carbon steel blades designed for metal or wood lose the cutting edge
quickly due to the abrasive nature of glass. The tooth also tends to delaminate
the material next to the cut. Both hacksaw blades and jigsaw blades are
available in grit form that stays sharp and basically sands away the material.
Feeding to fast generates excess heat and can clog the grit with melted
epoxy.

Try and use a backup material to minimize backside fraying.

Regards,

Charlie Johnson
Ogden, Utah

In a message dated 5/28/2011 6:29:39 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
novcom2012@... writes:

Neal,

I looked in Issue #10. There is a SHORT paragraph on Fuselage Trimming.
They recommend using a work/trouble light to view the tape edges and mark
it with a soft lead pencil.
They don't say with side of the tape to cut on.
They recommend using a handheld hacksaw blade to cut with. Warning that a
jigsaw will delaminate the sandwitch.
I had no problem with the jigsaw. I used a NEW, fine-toothed metal blade.
Suggest you cut a short distance then inspect VERY CAREFULLY how well it
cut before proceeding.
As with anything, talk to as many people that you can who have already
done it, and then use your best judgement.

I will look in the other issues and see if I see anything else.

Ron Cross

--- In Q-LIST@..., "n200qt@..." <n200qt@...> wrote:

Thanks Sam!

I think I need 'QuickTalk' issue # 10 which is one that I don't
currently have. Ron Cross posted a picture that shows him "trimming the tape
away"

as you suggested. I'll do some more looking and see what I can come up
with.

Thanks for everyone's help!!!

Neal

--- In Q-LIST@..., Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@> wrote:

It's somewhere in the archives. I think you trim the tape away.

You better verify though. Look in very old QAC newsletters and issues
of
Q-talk.

Sam
> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:08 AM, n200qt@ <n200qt@> wrote:
>


All, I picked up an unstarted Q-200 kit last year and now I've
started to
build. As I read thru the construction plans (and the few
QUICKTALK/Q-Talk
issues I have), I'm having a hard time locating which trim lines to
cut too.
I can clearly see the tape lines that were used in the molds, BUT the
question is do I trim to the top of the tape line or the bottom?
> > Thanks for any inputs!

Neal Andersen


>

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Re: September Field of Dreams

Sam Hoskins
 

Peace, Love and Barbecue


On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Dave Dugas <davedq2@...> wrote:

**


Sam,
Have you ever thought of a career in advertising? I think you missed your
calling. Rod Herzig, with his Cozy, and I in Q2 N68DD are planning on being
there (for the ribs).
Dave Dugas

--- On Sat, 6/18/11, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

From: Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] September Field of Dreams
To:
Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 1:53 PM




Summer is here, so it's time to start talking about our annual Field of
Dreams Fly-in. As you recall, this year's fly-in will be held at Marion, IL
on September 9, 10, & 11.

Read all about it here: http://southernillinoisfieldofdreams.blogspot.com/
The web site has travel, lodging, and other information.

Ladies invited! Check out the web site!.

Besides the change in venue, we will having a few other changes this year.
First off, I am inviting all canard aircraft, so we
are welcoming Vari-Ezes, Longs, Burkuts, and anything else that has a wing
in the front. The more, the merrier.

Second, we will be having a Fly-In breakfast on Saturday, hosted by EAA
Chapter 277.

So, take a look at the web site, set the date aside and make your travel
plans.

Best wishes.

Sam Hoskins
http://southernillinoisfieldofdreams.blogspot.com/

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Re: September Field of Dreams

Dave Dugas
 

Sam,
Have you ever thought of a career in advertising?  I think you missed your calling.  Rod Herzig, with his Cozy, and I in Q2 N68DD are planning on being there (for the ribs).
Dave Dugas

--- On Sat, 6/18/11, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


From: Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] September Field of Dreams
To:
Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 1:53 PM


 



Summer is here, so it's time to start talking about our annual Field of
Dreams Fly-in. As you recall, this year's fly-in will be held at Marion, IL
on September 9, 10, & 11.

Read all about it here: http://southernillinoisfieldofdreams.blogspot.com/
The web site has travel, lodging, and other information.

Ladies invited! Check out the web site!.

Besides the change in venue, we will having a few other changes this year.
First off, I am inviting all canard aircraft, so we
are welcoming Vari-Ezes, Longs, Burkuts, and anything else that has a wing
in the front. The more, the merrier.

Second, we will be having a Fly-In breakfast on Saturday, hosted by EAA
Chapter 277.

So, take a look at the web site, set the date aside and make your travel
plans.

Best wishes.

Sam Hoskins
http://southernillinoisfieldofdreams.blogspot.com/

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Re: Vertical Power VP-X

Fisher Paul A. <fisherpaula@...>
 

Jay,
As with all homebuilt decisions - it's entirely up to you. I took a quick look at VP, and I didn't see the value. I suggest you take some time and read Bob Nuckolls book about wiring an airplane. It isn't hard, it just takes some time to think it all through. The book is downloadable from here:
http://www.aeroelectric.com/Book/AEC12A_PDF.zip

As Mike said, if you are wiring a very complex airplane, it might be worthwhile, but the Q is pretty simple (and it would be best to try to keep it that way!).

But it's your airplane, just let the rest of us know what you learn!

- Paul


From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of scheevel@...
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2011 12:29
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Vertical Power VP-X



Hi Guys,

Having more money than sense at this point (and not an excessive amount of either), I am considering installing the Vertical Power VP-X in my plane to handle all the electrical switching, circuit management/breaking and status reporting from a single device.

It seems like a neat little gizmo for a guy like me because it will allow me to customize/modify the installation after the electrical system is already fully installed in the plane. One of the nice things about it, is that it allows you to use any type of switch for everything without regard to current requirements of the device. This is because the switching is actually done inside the VP-X box, with the manual switch simply alerting the electronics in the box to activate the circuit and manage it according to programmed preferences. Circuit breaker limits can be changed in software as necessary and things like trim, starter, etc. can be programmed to be deactivated or desensitized as a function of airspeed, engine rpm and the like. It reports all status items to the EFIS and allows custom reconfiguration by plugging in an ethernet cable from a PC.

Has anyone in this group got any experience with this device (it is relatively new on the market)? They seem to have a lot of support documentation and videos on their site. One that I found extremely helpful, probably to anyone new to wiring is a generic document about the top 10 aircraft wiring mistakes. Link is:

http://www.verticalpower.com/docs/Top_10_Wiring_Mistakes.pdf

Cheers,
Jay Scheevel -- Tri-Q, still building


Re: First Flight !!

Fisher Paul A. <fisherpaula@...>
 

CONGRATULATIONS SANJAY!! That's an absolutely fantastic accomplishment. I was just wondering if you had done your first flight yet. Sounds like you found a perfect weather day - exactly what you want. We all knew you could do it - we're just thrilled another Q is born!

Keep at it - remember to take a few minutes to enjoy the view. As others have said, you have entered a very exclusive club. Not just the Q, but there are very few people who actually fly the airplane they built. There's just nothing like it!

We're all looking forward to seeing you at a fly-in soon!

Paul A. Fisher
Q-200, N17PF


From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Sanjay Dhall
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 02:09
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] First Flight !!



It finally happened !!!
My Quickie Q-200 took to the air today for the first time. What a thrill!
After months of taxiing and tweaking, and with considerable apprehension in
my ability to deal with the unknowns, and after listening to the advice of
several of you, I finally took my Q-200 on its maiden flight today.
It had been a great day for any flying, with winds below 5 knots all day
with temps in the 70's. I felt bummed all day that I missed the early
morning opportunity to make the first flight, and somewhat dejected at
myself for not being able to face the reality of actually making the first
flight. The thought of handing the job to a test pilot did cross my mind.
But my EAA flight advisor was available this evening. I had proposed that I
fly this evening. He came over to the hangar and spent time with me
generally gaging my state of mind. He gave me many outs. A friend came over
with a video camera.
I had spoken to the tower before the flight and they were ready with
emergency vehicles, and were ready to assist as needed, and were OK with
flying directly over the airport above pattern alt.
KYIP 7:30pm. temp 78. Willow Run is a pretty big airport with long and wide
runways. I decided on RWY 23L 7500 x 150'.
Taxied out, did an engine run up, and mag check. Left mag sputtered. oops.
Do I turn back.
After running that mag a few extra seconds it cleared up, and ran smooth. I
can still turn around and go back. Kept on rolling towards the runway.
Lined up at the very end of 23L. One last check of engine temps, pressures,
gages. All in range.
Decision point. Deep breath. Applied full power. No turning back now!
Concentrated on staying on the centerline and watching for any nose up or
tail up tendency. A quick glance at the airspeed ~80. The nose dropped a
little, so pulled up slightly and it was off the ground and going faster.
The left canard dropped just a little, and easily corrected. Airspeed
quickly crossed 110, so I started climbing out. Quickly climbed to about
2000' AGL airspeed about 140mph as I turned crosswind, then downwind. Engine
showed 2600 rpm. Cut back to 2300 rpm. Still climbing, cut power some more
and leveled. Since Willow Run is underneath the Detroit Class B airspace,
could not climb too much higher.
Performed a simulated landing at 2000' right over RWY 23L. During this
process I noted that the speeds were just not coming down as quickly as
required. Arrived at 2000' alt. approximately at midpoint of the RWY. This
was useful at it told me that for the actual landing I need to make a
shallower approach and reduce speeds further.
Descended into pattern alt, cut power. The Q does not seem to want to lose
speed and alt together quickly. Still going 115 on final turn. But did make
a fairly shallow approach. Crossed the threshold at about 95. Once below 95
I did note a tendency to rock back and forth in the roll axis. Left canard
down, left canard up, left canard down... Maybe it was me over correcting.
Dont know what my speed was now but seemed a whole lot slower than the rest
of the flight. Just kept on approaching the runway. And then it was down, a
slight bounce, but it stuck, and now the familiar part from the last many
months of taxiing. Taxied back. Total flying time ~12minutes. Friend and
onlookers were cheering. BTW, the friendly tower folks who had been watching
and assisting me in my taxiing up and down the runways in the recent past,
must have been relieved. Many surely wondered if this thing was ever going
to fly.
Well, today it did!
I am thankful to so many of you, for your help, advice and support. Today's
flight would have been far more difficult without it.
thanks
Sanjay


Re: Q-tube and Quicker. . .

L.J. French <LJFrench@...>
 

Dan,
My guess is that you put way more effort into all this technology than most of us realize. I just want to say a big thank you for all the work you put into giving us a great way to share experiences, ideas and buy/sell opportunities. The increased traffic speaks to the success of your work. Until you are better paid - thanks again.

LJ French

Short & simple from my mobile

On Jun 19, 2011, at 5:58 AM, dan@... wrote:

Q-tube and Quicker are back up and running on the QBA site. You can
still upload videos and pictures directly to the site without having to
link them to Vimeo or YouTube.

Turns out that the server resource issues weren't related to the videos
at all, but a small module that was running on the side of the site that
scrolled new products from the online store. It was accessing the
DataBase 300 times every time a page loaded. The site is getting A LOT
of traffic with literally thousands of page views per day, so you can do
the math and figure out that the DataBase and server were getting
overwhelmed.

OK enough geek talk, you're free to use everything on the site again!
Just FYI. I have some more work to do optimizing some of the other
components as well, but removing that module seems to be a good start.
The pages load a little quicker now too.

Thanks for your patience and your suggestions.

Warm regards,
Dan Yager
QBA Editor
www.quickheads.com



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Re: First Flight !!

Bruce Crain
 

Sanjay!You did it!!!! You are definitely a focused guy. Seems like only last week that we met and you were bumming rides and asking lots of questions. You must have found all the right answers!You handled my TriQ200 very well when you flew with me. I think it was your 1st ride in a Quickie wasn't it? I remember asking you if you had flown in a Quickie before. You said no and I said well lets go do it. I could tell you were going to make it from watching you and listening to you. Congratulations!!!!Bruce CrainN96BJ
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Re: First Flight !!

Sam Kittle
 

Congratulations Sanjay, it would be great to see the video on the Q-list if
you can stop watching it long enough to make the post.



Best regards,

Sam Kittle



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From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Sanjay Dhall
Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 12:09 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] First Flight !!





It finally happened !!!
My Quickie Q-200 took to the air today for the first time. What a thrill!
After months of taxiing and tweaking, and with considerable apprehension in
my ability to deal with the unknowns, and after listening to the advice of
several of you, I finally took my Q-200 on its maiden flight today.
It had been a great day for any flying, with winds below 5 knots all day
with temps in the 70's. I felt bummed all day that I missed the early
morning opportunity to make the first flight, and somewhat dejected at
myself for not being able to face the reality of actually making the first
flight. The thought of handing the job to a test pilot did cross my mind.
But my EAA flight advisor was available this evening. I had proposed that I
fly this evening. He came over to the hangar and spent time with me
generally gaging my state of mind. He gave me many outs. A friend came over
with a video camera.
I had spoken to the tower before the flight and they were ready with
emergency vehicles, and were ready to assist as needed, and were OK with
flying directly over the airport above pattern alt.
KYIP 7:30pm. temp 78. Willow Run is a pretty big airport with long and wide
runways. I decided on RWY 23L 7500 x 150'.
Taxied out, did an engine run up, and mag check. Left mag sputtered. oops.
Do I turn back.
After running that mag a few extra seconds it cleared up, and ran smooth. I
can still turn around and go back. Kept on rolling towards the runway.
Lined up at the very end of 23L. One last check of engine temps, pressures,
gages. All in range.
Decision point. Deep breath. Applied full power. No turning back now!
Concentrated on staying on the centerline and watching for any nose up or
tail up tendency. A quick glance at the airspeed ~80. The nose dropped a
little, so pulled up slightly and it was off the ground and going faster.
The left canard dropped just a little, and easily corrected. Airspeed
quickly crossed 110, so I started climbing out. Quickly climbed to about
2000' AGL airspeed about 140mph as I turned crosswind, then downwind. Engine
showed 2600 rpm. Cut back to 2300 rpm. Still climbing, cut power some more
and leveled. Since Willow Run is underneath the Detroit Class B airspace,
could not climb too much higher.
Performed a simulated landing at 2000' right over RWY 23L. During this
process I noted that the speeds were just not coming down as quickly as
required. Arrived at 2000' alt. approximately at midpoint of the RWY. This
was useful at it told me that for the actual landing I need to make a
shallower approach and reduce speeds further.
Descended into pattern alt, cut power. The Q does not seem to want to lose
speed and alt together quickly. Still going 115 on final turn. But did make
a fairly shallow approach. Crossed the threshold at about 95. Once below 95
I did note a tendency to rock back and forth in the roll axis. Left canard
down, left canard up, left canard down... Maybe it was me over correcting.
Dont know what my speed was now but seemed a whole lot slower than the rest
of the flight. Just kept on approaching the runway. And then it was down, a
slight bounce, but it stuck, and now the familiar part from the last many
months of taxiing. Taxied back. Total flying time ~12minutes. Friend and
onlookers were cheering. BTW, the friendly tower folks who had been watching
and assisting me in my taxiing up and down the runways in the recent past,
must have been relieved. Many surely wondered if this thing was ever going
to fly.
Well, today it did!
I am thankful to so many of you, for your help, advice and support. Today's
flight would have been far more difficult without it.
thanks
Sanjay


Re: Vertical Power VP-X

Mike Dwyer
 

Wow, starting at $1200 bucks! If you were building a Lancair 4 maybe. My switch panel cost closer to $12. Q's are way to simple for that fancy thing.http://www.warnerair.com/q200/pnl_2008.html Mike Q200
To: Q-LIST@...
From: scheevel@...
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 17:28:39 +0000
Subject: [Q-LIST] Vertical Power VP-X




























Hi Guys,



Having more money than sense at this point (and not an excessive amount of either), I am considering installing the Vertical Power VP-X in my plane to handle all the electrical switching, circuit management/breaking and status reporting from a single device.



It seems like a neat little gizmo for a guy like me because it will allow me to customize/modify the installation after the electrical system is already fully installed in the plane. One of the nice things about it, is that it allows you to use any type of switch for everything without regard to current requirements of the device. This is because the switching is actually done inside the VP-X box, with the manual switch simply alerting the electronics in the box to activate the circuit and manage it according to programmed preferences. Circuit breaker limits can be changed in software as necessary and things like trim, starter, etc. can be programmed to be deactivated or desensitized as a function of airspeed, engine rpm and the like. It reports all status items to the EFIS and allows custom reconfiguration by plugging in an ethernet cable from a PC.



Has anyone in this group got any experience with this device (it is relatively new on the market)? They seem to have a lot of support documentation and videos on their site. One that I found extremely helpful, probably to anyone new to wiring is a generic document about the top 10 aircraft wiring mistakes. Link is:



http://www.verticalpower.com/docs/Top_10_Wiring_Mistakes.pdf



Cheers,

Jay Scheevel -- Tri-Q, still building


















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Re: First Flight !!

quickieq2uk
 

Congratulations Sanjay!

I hope to be flying my Q2 again in the next month or two.

Regards,

Simon Wilson
Quickie Q2
United Kingdom

--- In Q-LIST@..., mitch hargin <hargin@...> wrote:

Congratulations Sanjay!!!  I enjoyed your flight story.  I am up to 16 hours of flight time on the E-Racer.  Seemed like there was always something to adjust after every flight.  The last two hours were adjustment free and I think I am ready to raise the gear.  Good luck with your flying off the hours.
Mitch Hargin

--- On Sat, 6/18/11, Sanjay Dhall <sdhall@...> wrote:

From: Sanjay Dhall <sdhall@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] First Flight !!
To: Q-LIST@...
Date: Saturday, June 18, 2011, 2:09 AM
















 









It finally happened !!!

My Quickie Q-200 took to the air today for the first time. What a thrill!

After months of taxiing and tweaking, and with considerable apprehension in

my ability to deal with the unknowns, and after listening to the advice of

several of you, I finally took my Q-200 on its maiden flight today.

It had been a great day for any flying, with winds below 5 knots all day

with temps in the 70's. I felt bummed all day that I missed the early

morning opportunity to make the first flight, and somewhat dejected at

myself for not being able to face the reality of actually making the first

flight. The thought of handing the job to a test pilot did cross my mind.

But my EAA flight advisor was available this evening. I had proposed that I

fly this evening. He came over to the hangar and spent time with me

generally gaging my state of mind. He gave me many outs. A friend came over

with a video camera.

I had spoken to the tower before the flight and they were ready with

emergency vehicles, and were ready to assist as needed, and were OK with

flying directly over the airport above pattern alt.

KYIP 7:30pm. temp 78. Willow Run is a pretty big airport with long and wide

runways. I decided on RWY 23L 7500 x 150'.

Taxied out, did an engine run up, and mag check. Left mag sputtered. oops.

Do I turn back.

After running that mag a few extra seconds it cleared up, and ran smooth. I

can still turn around and go back. Kept on rolling towards the runway.

Lined up at the very end of 23L. One last check of engine temps, pressures,

gages. All in range.

Decision point. Deep breath. Applied full power. No turning back now!

Concentrated on staying on the centerline and watching for any nose up or

tail up tendency. A quick glance at the airspeed ~80. The nose dropped a

little, so pulled up slightly and it was off the ground and going faster.

The left canard dropped just a little, and easily corrected. Airspeed

quickly crossed 110, so I started climbing out. Quickly climbed to about

2000' AGL airspeed about 140mph as I turned crosswind, then downwind. Engine

showed 2600 rpm. Cut back to 2300 rpm. Still climbing, cut power some more

and leveled. Since Willow Run is underneath the Detroit Class B airspace,

could not climb too much higher.

Performed a simulated landing at 2000' right over RWY 23L. During this

process I noted that the speeds were just not coming down as quickly as

required. Arrived at 2000' alt. approximately at midpoint of the RWY. This

was useful at it told me that for the actual landing I need to make a

shallower approach and reduce speeds further.

Descended into pattern alt, cut power. The Q does not seem to want to lose

speed and alt together quickly. Still going 115 on final turn. But did make

a fairly shallow approach. Crossed the threshold at about 95. Once below 95

I did note a tendency to rock back and forth in the roll axis. Left canard

down, left canard up, left canard down... Maybe it was me over correcting.

Dont know what my speed was now but seemed a whole lot slower than the rest

of the flight. Just kept on approaching the runway. And then it was down, a

slight bounce, but it stuck, and now the familiar part from the last many

months of taxiing. Taxied back. Total flying time ~12minutes. Friend and

onlookers were cheering. BTW, the friendly tower folks who had been watching

and assisting me in my taxiing up and down the runways in the recent past,

must have been relieved. Many surely wondered if this thing was ever going

to fly.

Well, today it did!

I am thankful to so many of you, for your help, advice and support. Today's

flight would have been far more difficult without it.

thanks

Sanjay



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Re: Q-tube and Quicker. . .

quickieq2uk
 

Hi Dan,

Great news that Q-Tube is working again. I hope to post some videos to it when I get my Q2 back in the air later this year.

Whilst this is not Quickie related here is a video I made of a Chipmunk that I fly in here in the UK. I filmed it one evening back in April but only got round to editing it this afternoon. It was filme in 1080p HD although I have only edited it and uploaded it in 720p HD. I plan to make a similar video with my Q2 when I get it flying, hopefully with some air to air footage too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JE-FN1xZs_o

Regards,

Simon Wilson
Quickie Q2
United Kingdom

--- In Q-LIST@..., dan@... wrote:

Q-tube and Quicker are back up and running on the QBA site. You can
still upload videos and pictures directly to the site without having to
link them to Vimeo or YouTube.

Turns out that the server resource issues weren't related to the videos
at all, but a small module that was running on the side of the site that
scrolled new products from the online store. It was accessing the
DataBase 300 times every time a page loaded. The site is getting A LOT
of traffic with literally thousands of page views per day, so you can do
the math and figure out that the DataBase and server were getting
overwhelmed.

OK enough geek talk, you're free to use everything on the site again!
Just FYI. I have some more work to do optimizing some of the other
components as well, but removing that module seems to be a good start.
The pages load a little quicker now too.

Thanks for your patience and your suggestions.

Warm regards,
Dan Yager
QBA Editor
www.quickheads.com

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