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Re: Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

quickieq2uk
 

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the measurements. Very useful.

Regards,

Simon
On 15 Sep 2011, at 18:14, "rranch524" <rranch524@...> wrote:

I have a Tri-Q200 with a CF LS1 canard. My torque tube is a straight "L" shape (no universal). I measured the OD of the tube to be 0.62" and the ID id 0.496". The flat piece that rised vertically to be connected with a rod from the stick is 3/4" wide by 0.12 thick and is about 7.25 inches long. Be sure to use some "grease" to eliminate the torque tube from welding itself inside the elevator. I used Permatex Anti-seize lubricant (ugly stuff).

Mike building Tri-Q200 in LA

--- In Q-LIST@..., "Chris Rayner" <chris-rayner@...> wrote:

Hi Simon, I have some left-over stuff from when I built my Q, including some
control arms and things. To save me digging out the construction manual, can
you describe which are the actual rods and spacers you need and I'll take a
look to see if I've got them?

Cheers

Chris



From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
quickieq2uk
Sent: 14 September 2011 20:03
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms





Hi all,

I decided to remove my control surfaces for inspection and painting and
discovered that the original builder made a complete mess of drilling the
holes in the Q2CSA8 rods. So much so I am going to have to build new ones
from scratch. I have looked in the plans and can't find any reference to the
material they are made from (it's probably been staring me in the face).
Does anybody know what the Q2CSA8 control arms, CS20 and CS16 spacers are
made from? I suspect it is probably 4130 but want to confirm it before
ordering some new material.
If anybody also knows the dimensions of the tubes that would also be handy.
It was late when I left the workshop the other day and had another
engagement to attend to, unfortunately I didn't get a chance to measure the
tubes before I left. I won't back in the workshop until next week as I am
out of town, but would like to order the material in the mean time so if
anyone has the i.d. and o.d. of the tubes I would really appreciate it.

Regards,

Simon Wilson
Quickie Q2
United Kingdom





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Re: Wing incidence angle calculation

Mike Perry
 

Hello William:

You can measure the angle of incidence of the airfoils by making a
cutout of the hot wire templates for BL 49 -- a "female" template if you
will -- and cutting the level line above the template. Then a digital
level will tell you what the relative angle of incidence is. You can
get the templates from Quickheads if you don't have them. If the
airframe is assembled that gives you the answer but if not you will have
to determine the angle of incidence of the fuselage -- dig in the plans
and read the old posts, sorry, not easy.

Mike

On 9/15/2011 10:56 AM, Tres wrote:

Hello All,

I am in the process of doing a comprehensive airframe inspection on a
Q200 project, the outcome of which will help me determine if I go
ahead with the project. I would like to be able to accurately
calculate the angle of incidence relative to the fuselage for both the
canard and main wing. I would like input on how to best complete this
process. Thoughts/ideas anyone???

William


Wing incidence angle calculation

Tres <denver_longez@...>
 

Hello All,

I am in the process of doing a comprehensive airframe inspection on a Q200 project, the outcome of which will help me determine if I go ahead with the project. I would like to be able to accurately calculate the angle of incidence relative to the fuselage for both the canard and main wing. I would like input on how to best complete this process. Thoughts/ideas anyone???

William


Re: Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

Mike Evans
 

I have a Tri-Q200 with a CF LS1 canard. My torque tube is a straight "L" shape (no universal). I measured the OD of the tube to be 0.62" and the ID id 0.496". The flat piece that rised vertically to be connected with a rod from the stick is 3/4" wide by 0.12 thick and is about 7.25 inches long. Be sure to use some "grease" to eliminate the torque tube from welding itself inside the elevator. I used Permatex Anti-seize lubricant (ugly stuff).

Mike building Tri-Q200 in LA

--- In Q-LIST@..., "Chris Rayner" <chris-rayner@...> wrote:

Hi Simon, I have some left-over stuff from when I built my Q, including some
control arms and things. To save me digging out the construction manual, can
you describe which are the actual rods and spacers you need and I'll take a
look to see if I've got them?

Cheers

Chris



From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
quickieq2uk
Sent: 14 September 2011 20:03
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms





Hi all,

I decided to remove my control surfaces for inspection and painting and
discovered that the original builder made a complete mess of drilling the
holes in the Q2CSA8 rods. So much so I am going to have to build new ones
from scratch. I have looked in the plans and can't find any reference to the
material they are made from (it's probably been staring me in the face).
Does anybody know what the Q2CSA8 control arms, CS20 and CS16 spacers are
made from? I suspect it is probably 4130 but want to confirm it before
ordering some new material.
If anybody also knows the dimensions of the tubes that would also be handy.
It was late when I left the workshop the other day and had another
engagement to attend to, unfortunately I didn't get a chance to measure the
tubes before I left. I won't back in the workshop until next week as I am
out of town, but would like to order the material in the mean time so if
anyone has the i.d. and o.d. of the tubes I would really appreciate it.

Regards,

Simon Wilson
Quickie Q2
United Kingdom







Re: Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

quickieq2uk
 

Hi Clive,

I would certainly be interested in any notes you have although by the sounds of what Chris says it sounds like the control arms between the GU and LS1 might be slightly different. I'm not sure as I have never looked at the elevator control arms on a LS1 in detail.

How's your machine coming along? Is 2012 going to be the year for Quickies here in the UK?

Regards,

Simon
On 15 Sep 2011, at 08:11, "Clive" <gobxoy@...> wrote:

Simon

It's 4130, I looked at this a while back, contact me direct and I look out my notes. I seem to remember that in UK you can't easily get the correct slip fit so need correct OD and thicker ID and ream to fit.

Clive..........Gobxoy

--- In Q-LIST@..., Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Richard - links don't seem to carry through on Yahoo. Better to list the
entire URL.

Sam


On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Richard <mylittlemgb@...> wrote:

**



Simon, The reason you can't find the info is QAC did not put it in the
building plans. You do how ever have two options. Option #1. Dan offers the
DWG's you are looking for on the quickheads.com web sight. Option #2. We
at F.L.A.Ps do make all the parts in the DWG's Dan offers.

Richard Kaczmarek
Fast Little Airplanes
2232 North State Route 559
Woodstock, OH 43084
937-243-7303
fastlittleairplanes@...


--- In Q-LIST@..., "quickieq2uk" <quickieq2uk@> wrote:

Hi all,

I decided to remove my control surfaces for inspection and painting and
discovered that the original builder made a complete mess of drilling the
holes in the Q2CSA8 rods. So much so I am going to have to build new ones
from scratch. I have looked in the plans and can't find any reference to the
material they are made from (it's probably been staring me in the face).
Does anybody know what the Q2CSA8 control arms, CS20 and CS16 spacers are
made from? I suspect it is probably 4130 but want to confirm it before
ordering some new material.
If anybody also knows the dimensions of the tubes that would also be
handy. It was late when I left the workshop the other day and had another
engagement to attend to, unfortunately I didn't get a chance to measure the
tubes before I left. I won't back in the workshop until next week as I am
out of town, but would like to order the material in the mean time so if
anyone has the i.d. and o.d. of the tubes I would really appreciate it.

Regards,

Simon Wilson
Quickie Q2
United Kingdom


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Re: Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

quickieq2uk
 

Chris,

Thanks for looking. Could you take a photo of the control arms and send to me off list please so I can take a look? Sounds like they are different with bends in them. I should be able to get that material fairly easily. Although I am interested in the AL tube for the spacers and reducers if it is going spare. Certainly sounds like the right stuff, although I will need to measure it when I get home at the weekend.

Many thanks,

Simon
On 15 Sep 2011, at 11:18, "Chris Rayner" <chris-rayner@...> wrote:

Hi Simon,

I have a pair of Q2CSA8 arms, but bent and drilled for LS1 canard, so 4 holes in each and a gentle double bend. I also have some Al tube which I think is for the spacers between the elevators and fuselage, but on the LS1. They are:

2 pieces 1.2” long, 0.875” OD and 0.640” ID (approx).

1 piece 6” long, 0.925” OD and 0.625” ID.

1 piece 1.4” long, 0.925” OD, 0.625” ID (same stuff as the 6” piece).

Let me know if any of that is useful.

Cheers

Chris

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Simon Wilson
Sent: 15 September 2011 09:38
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

Hi Chris,

It is the two control tubes with the UJ in the middle that connect the stick to the elevators and run in the channel between the fuel tank and canard. It is also the two spacers and reducers that connect the elevator torque tubes to the control tubes.

"Just to re-assure anyone who is concerned I might have left some important

stuff out of my own aircraft, I did buy a damaged Q and kept a lot of
hardware from it!"
Glad you cleared that up! Although I think you might have had difficulty getting airborne without elevators!!! ;-)

Regards,
Simon Wilson

Sent from my iPhone

On 15 Sep 2011, at 09:05, "Chris Rayner" <chris-rayner@... <mailto:chris-rayner%40btconnect.com> > wrote:

Just to re-assure anyone who is concerned I might have left some important
stuff out of my own aircraft, I did buy a damaged Q and kept a lot of
hardware from it!

Chris

From: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
Chris Rayner
Sent: 15 September 2011 08:39
To: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

Hi Simon, I have some left-over stuff from when I built my Q, including some
control arms and things. To save me digging out the construction manual, can
you describe which are the actual rods and spacers you need and I'll take a
look to see if I've got them?

Cheers

Chris

From: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of
quickieq2uk
Sent: 14 September 2011 20:03
To: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

Hi all,

I decided to remove my control surfaces for inspection and painting and
discovered that the original builder made a complete mess of drilling the
holes in the Q2CSA8 rods. So much so I am going to have to build new ones
from scratch. I have looked in the plans and can't find any reference to the
material they are made from (it's probably been staring me in the face).
Does anybody know what the Q2CSA8 control arms, CS20 and CS16 spacers are
made from? I suspect it is probably 4130 but want to confirm it before
ordering some new material.
If anybody also knows the dimensions of the tubes that would also be handy.
It was late when I left the workshop the other day and had another
engagement to attend to, unfortunately I didn't get a chance to measure the
tubes before I left. I won't back in the workshop until next week as I am
out of town, but would like to order the material in the mean time so if
anyone has the i.d. and o.d. of the tubes I would really appreciate it.

Regards,

Simon Wilson
Quickie Q2
United Kingdom

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Re: Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

Chris Rayner <chris-rayner@...>
 

Hi Simon,

I have a pair of Q2CSA8 arms, but bent and drilled for LS1 canard, so 4 holes in each and a gentle double bend. I also have some Al tube which I think is for the spacers between the elevators and fuselage, but on the LS1. They are:

2 pieces 1.2” long, 0.875” OD and 0.640” ID (approx).

1 piece 6” long, 0.925” OD and 0.625” ID.

1 piece 1.4” long, 0.925” OD, 0.625” ID (same stuff as the 6” piece).

Let me know if any of that is useful.

Cheers

Chris





From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of Simon Wilson
Sent: 15 September 2011 09:38
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms





Hi Chris,

It is the two control tubes with the UJ in the middle that connect the stick to the elevators and run in the channel between the fuel tank and canard. It is also the two spacers and reducers that connect the elevator torque tubes to the control tubes.

"Just to re-assure anyone who is concerned I might have left some important

stuff out of my own aircraft, I did buy a damaged Q and kept a lot of
hardware from it!"
Glad you cleared that up! Although I think you might have had difficulty getting airborne without elevators!!! ;-)

Regards,
Simon Wilson
On 15 Sep 2011, at 09:05, "Chris Rayner" <chris-rayner@... <mailto:chris-rayner%40btconnect.com> > wrote:

Just to re-assure anyone who is concerned I might have left some important
stuff out of my own aircraft, I did buy a damaged Q and kept a lot of
hardware from it!

Chris

From: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
Chris Rayner
Sent: 15 September 2011 08:39
To: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

Hi Simon, I have some left-over stuff from when I built my Q, including some
control arms and things. To save me digging out the construction manual, can
you describe which are the actual rods and spacers you need and I'll take a
look to see if I've got them?

Cheers

Chris

From: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of
quickieq2uk
Sent: 14 September 2011 20:03
To: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

Hi all,

I decided to remove my control surfaces for inspection and painting and
discovered that the original builder made a complete mess of drilling the
holes in the Q2CSA8 rods. So much so I am going to have to build new ones
from scratch. I have looked in the plans and can't find any reference to the
material they are made from (it's probably been staring me in the face).
Does anybody know what the Q2CSA8 control arms, CS20 and CS16 spacers are
made from? I suspect it is probably 4130 but want to confirm it before
ordering some new material.
If anybody also knows the dimensions of the tubes that would also be handy.
It was late when I left the workshop the other day and had another
engagement to attend to, unfortunately I didn't get a chance to measure the
tubes before I left. I won't back in the workshop until next week as I am
out of town, but would like to order the material in the mean time so if
anyone has the i.d. and o.d. of the tubes I would really appreciate it.

Regards,

Simon Wilson
Quickie Q2
United Kingdom

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Re: Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

quickieq2uk
 

Hi Chris,

It is the two control tubes with the UJ in the middle that connect the stick to the elevators and run in the channel between the fuel tank and canard. It is also the two spacers and reducers that connect the elevator torque tubes to the control tubes.

"Just to re-assure anyone who is concerned I might have left some important

stuff out of my own aircraft, I did buy a damaged Q and kept a lot of
hardware from it!"
Glad you cleared that up! Although I think you might have had difficulty getting airborne without elevators!!! ;-)

Regards,
Simon Wilson
On 15 Sep 2011, at 09:05, "Chris Rayner" <chris-rayner@...> wrote:

Just to re-assure anyone who is concerned I might have left some important
stuff out of my own aircraft, I did buy a damaged Q and kept a lot of
hardware from it!

Chris

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Chris Rayner
Sent: 15 September 2011 08:39
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

Hi Simon, I have some left-over stuff from when I built my Q, including some
control arms and things. To save me digging out the construction manual, can
you describe which are the actual rods and spacers you need and I'll take a
look to see if I've got them?

Cheers

Chris

From: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of
quickieq2uk
Sent: 14 September 2011 20:03
To: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

Hi all,

I decided to remove my control surfaces for inspection and painting and
discovered that the original builder made a complete mess of drilling the
holes in the Q2CSA8 rods. So much so I am going to have to build new ones
from scratch. I have looked in the plans and can't find any reference to the
material they are made from (it's probably been staring me in the face).
Does anybody know what the Q2CSA8 control arms, CS20 and CS16 spacers are
made from? I suspect it is probably 4130 but want to confirm it before
ordering some new material.
If anybody also knows the dimensions of the tubes that would also be handy.
It was late when I left the workshop the other day and had another
engagement to attend to, unfortunately I didn't get a chance to measure the
tubes before I left. I won't back in the workshop until next week as I am
out of town, but would like to order the material in the mean time so if
anyone has the i.d. and o.d. of the tubes I would really appreciate it.

Regards,

Simon Wilson
Quickie Q2
United Kingdom

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Re: Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

Chris Rayner <chris-rayner@...>
 

Just to re-assure anyone who is concerned I might have left some important
stuff out of my own aircraft, I did buy a damaged Q and kept a lot of
hardware from it!

Chris



From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
Chris Rayner
Sent: 15 September 2011 08:39
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms





Hi Simon, I have some left-over stuff from when I built my Q, including some
control arms and things. To save me digging out the construction manual, can
you describe which are the actual rods and spacers you need and I'll take a
look to see if I've got them?

Cheers

Chris

From: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of
quickieq2uk
Sent: 14 September 2011 20:03
To: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

Hi all,

I decided to remove my control surfaces for inspection and painting and
discovered that the original builder made a complete mess of drilling the
holes in the Q2CSA8 rods. So much so I am going to have to build new ones
from scratch. I have looked in the plans and can't find any reference to the
material they are made from (it's probably been staring me in the face).
Does anybody know what the Q2CSA8 control arms, CS20 and CS16 spacers are
made from? I suspect it is probably 4130 but want to confirm it before
ordering some new material.
If anybody also knows the dimensions of the tubes that would also be handy.
It was late when I left the workshop the other day and had another
engagement to attend to, unfortunately I didn't get a chance to measure the
tubes before I left. I won't back in the workshop until next week as I am
out of town, but would like to order the material in the mean time so if
anyone has the i.d. and o.d. of the tubes I would really appreciate it.

Regards,

Simon Wilson
Quickie Q2
United Kingdom


Re: Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

Chris Rayner <chris-rayner@...>
 

Hi Simon, I have some left-over stuff from when I built my Q, including some
control arms and things. To save me digging out the construction manual, can
you describe which are the actual rods and spacers you need and I'll take a
look to see if I've got them?

Cheers

Chris



From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...] On Behalf Of
quickieq2uk
Sent: 14 September 2011 20:03
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms





Hi all,

I decided to remove my control surfaces for inspection and painting and
discovered that the original builder made a complete mess of drilling the
holes in the Q2CSA8 rods. So much so I am going to have to build new ones
from scratch. I have looked in the plans and can't find any reference to the
material they are made from (it's probably been staring me in the face).
Does anybody know what the Q2CSA8 control arms, CS20 and CS16 spacers are
made from? I suspect it is probably 4130 but want to confirm it before
ordering some new material.
If anybody also knows the dimensions of the tubes that would also be handy.
It was late when I left the workshop the other day and had another
engagement to attend to, unfortunately I didn't get a chance to measure the
tubes before I left. I won't back in the workshop until next week as I am
out of town, but would like to order the material in the mean time so if
anyone has the i.d. and o.d. of the tubes I would really appreciate it.

Regards,

Simon Wilson
Quickie Q2
United Kingdom


Re: Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

Clive Clapham
 

Simon

It's 4130, I looked at this a while back, contact me direct and I look out my notes. I seem to remember that in UK you can't easily get the correct slip fit so need correct OD and thicker ID and ream to fit.

Clive..........Gobxoy

--- In Q-LIST@..., Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Richard - links don't seem to carry through on Yahoo. Better to list the
entire URL.

Sam


On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Richard <mylittlemgb@...> wrote:

**



Simon, The reason you can't find the info is QAC did not put it in the
building plans. You do how ever have two options. Option #1. Dan offers the
DWG's you are looking for on the quickheads.com web sight. Option #2. We
at F.L.A.Ps do make all the parts in the DWG's Dan offers.

Richard Kaczmarek
Fast Little Airplanes
2232 North State Route 559
Woodstock, OH 43084
937-243-7303
fastlittleairplanes@...


--- In Q-LIST@..., "quickieq2uk" <quickieq2uk@> wrote:

Hi all,

I decided to remove my control surfaces for inspection and painting and
discovered that the original builder made a complete mess of drilling the
holes in the Q2CSA8 rods. So much so I am going to have to build new ones
from scratch. I have looked in the plans and can't find any reference to the
material they are made from (it's probably been staring me in the face).
Does anybody know what the Q2CSA8 control arms, CS20 and CS16 spacers are
made from? I suspect it is probably 4130 but want to confirm it before
ordering some new material.
If anybody also knows the dimensions of the tubes that would also be
handy. It was late when I left the workshop the other day and had another
engagement to attend to, unfortunately I didn't get a chance to measure the
tubes before I left. I won't back in the workshop until next week as I am
out of town, but would like to order the material in the mean time so if
anyone has the i.d. and o.d. of the tubes I would really appreciate it.

Regards,

Simon Wilson
Quickie Q2
United Kingdom


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Transponder set back

One Sky Dog
 

Hi all,

Yesterday I met with the radio guy to certify my transponder/ altimeter so
I could be ready for the DAR. I have to have Mode C so I can operate under
the SLC veil out of OGD.

It seems my digital Terra broadcasts Mode A but nothing on Mode C bummer!

I was wondering if anyone bought Terra digital avionics and then upgraded?
I am looking for a working digital Transponder TRT 250 D.

I also have the pushbutton Com and Navigation radios that I would like to
upgrade to digitals.

Please contact me off list as to not add to the list clutter.

Regards,

Charlie Johnson


Re: Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

Sam Hoskins
 

Richard - links don't seem to carry through on Yahoo. Better to list the
entire URL.

Sam

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 4:24 PM, Richard <mylittlemgb@...> wrote:

**



Simon, The reason you can't find the info is QAC did not put it in the
building plans. You do how ever have two options. Option #1. Dan offers the
DWG's you are looking for on the quickheads.com web sight. Option #2. We
at F.L.A.Ps do make all the parts in the DWG's Dan offers.

Richard Kaczmarek
Fast Little Airplanes
2232 North State Route 559
Woodstock, OH 43084
937-243-7303
fastlittleairplanes@...


--- In Q-LIST@..., "quickieq2uk" <quickieq2uk@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I decided to remove my control surfaces for inspection and painting and
discovered that the original builder made a complete mess of drilling the
holes in the Q2CSA8 rods. So much so I am going to have to build new ones
from scratch. I have looked in the plans and can't find any reference to the
material they are made from (it's probably been staring me in the face).
Does anybody know what the Q2CSA8 control arms, CS20 and CS16 spacers are
made from? I suspect it is probably 4130 but want to confirm it before
ordering some new material.
If anybody also knows the dimensions of the tubes that would also be
handy. It was late when I left the workshop the other day and had another
engagement to attend to, unfortunately I didn't get a chance to measure the
tubes before I left. I won't back in the workshop until next week as I am
out of town, but would like to order the material in the mean time so if
anyone has the i.d. and o.d. of the tubes I would really appreciate it.

Regards,

Simon Wilson
Quickie Q2
United Kingdom


Re: Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

Richard <mylittlemgb@...>
 

Simon, The reason you can't find the info is QAC did not put it in the building plans. You do how ever have two options. Option #1. Dan offers the DWG's you are looking for on the quickheads.com web sight. Option #2. We at F.L.A.Ps do make all the parts in the DWG's Dan offers.

Richard Kaczmarek
Fast Little Airplanes
2232 North State Route 559
Woodstock, OH 43084
937-243-7303
fastlittleairplanes@...

--- In Q-LIST@..., "quickieq2uk" <quickieq2uk@...> wrote:

Hi all,

I decided to remove my control surfaces for inspection and painting and discovered that the original builder made a complete mess of drilling the holes in the Q2CSA8 rods. So much so I am going to have to build new ones from scratch. I have looked in the plans and can't find any reference to the material they are made from (it's probably been staring me in the face). Does anybody know what the Q2CSA8 control arms, CS20 and CS16 spacers are made from? I suspect it is probably 4130 but want to confirm it before ordering some new material.
If anybody also knows the dimensions of the tubes that would also be handy. It was late when I left the workshop the other day and had another engagement to attend to, unfortunately I didn't get a chance to measure the tubes before I left. I won't back in the workshop until next week as I am out of town, but would like to order the material in the mean time so if anyone has the i.d. and o.d. of the tubes I would really appreciate it.

Regards,

Simon Wilson
Quickie Q2
United Kingdom


Q2CSA8 Elevator control arms

quickieq2uk
 

Hi all,

I decided to remove my control surfaces for inspection and painting and discovered that the original builder made a complete mess of drilling the holes in the Q2CSA8 rods. So much so I am going to have to build new ones from scratch. I have looked in the plans and can't find any reference to the material they are made from (it's probably been staring me in the face). Does anybody know what the Q2CSA8 control arms, CS20 and CS16 spacers are made from? I suspect it is probably 4130 but want to confirm it before ordering some new material.
If anybody also knows the dimensions of the tubes that would also be handy. It was late when I left the workshop the other day and had another engagement to attend to, unfortunately I didn't get a chance to measure the tubes before I left. I won't back in the workshop until next week as I am out of town, but would like to order the material in the mean time so if anyone has the i.d. and o.d. of the tubes I would really appreciate it.

Regards,

Simon Wilson
Quickie Q2
United Kingdom


Cleaning out the Hangar! (Actually my garage.)

quickheads
 

Hey All,
I have been collecting A LOT of Quickie related items since long before I took over as Editor. Most of it I have no use for, other than to let it collect dust in my garage.

The recent flooding event in my community made me realize that these things aren't doing anyone any good sitting at my house. And if, heaven forbid, a dissaster occured, lots of this stuff would be destroyed. AND I would have a hard time explaining their value to the claims representative! LOL!

Anywho, I've posted a bunch of the stuff on eBay in the hopes that it will move to a good home on higher ground. Below are the quick descriptions and links directly to the items on eBay. I've started the bidding at what I consider a fair price, with no reserve. I hope you guys will find some use for these things.

If you have questions or comments, please e-mail me here on the Q-list, or OFFLIST at dan_at_quickheads_dot_com

Warm regards,
Dan Yager
QBA Editor
www.quickheads.com



Q2 Fuselage Shells
http://tinyurl.com/4452w7l


Q2 Q-200 Main Wing and Tail Section
http://tinyurl.com/3lwdrjo


Q2 GU Canard
http://tinyurl.com/3txh3h6


Q-200 Cowling
http://tinyurl.com/3qgo9tw


Q2 Revmaster Cowling
http://tinyurl.com/3cxctwj


Q2 or Q-200 Canopy and Canopy Frame
http://tinyurl.com/4x6b8dy


Q2 or Q-200 Basic Instrument Panel
http://tinyurl.com/3fhehva


Q1 Main Wheels and Brakes
http://tinyurl.com/3j3y7vb


Q2 or Q-200 QAC Pre-Molded Wheel Pants
http://tinyurl.com/63hrlq7


Hot-Wire Voltage/Tempurature Regulator
http://tinyurl.com/6klst2y


Re: The weekend

JMasal@...
 

WOW Dave... excellent write-up. Normally you'd have to be standing right next to a guy listening to him to be that informed
Thanks for taking the time, its almost like having you there!

j.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Dwyer <q2pilot@...>
To: Q-LIST <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Tue, Sep 13, 2011 6:58 am
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] The weekend




Wow, quite a flight report. Thanks for sharing. Mike Q200

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Dave Dugas
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 11:22 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] The weeken

Thanks Jim...I hate being thwarted. This was the first time that we had to throw in the towel. We got back home today at 5:30 pm after flying for a half hour from Canton OH through some lousy weather. When we got north of the junk we had a beautiful flight through upstate NY, over the Finger Lakes region. At 1:30 we landed at Penn Yann airport for fuel and took a loaner car into town for lunch. One of the most scenic areas for flying, especially the way the weather improved.
My engine issue was a stuck exhaust valve on the #2 cyl.
The Revmaster ran perfectly and when the valve hung up, it happened without warning. Only 12 hours on the cyl heads when it happened.
About 5 miles east of BGM, at 4200', I contacted the tower and reported landing...engine still running fine. I reduced power and thought that the engine would either quit or shake off. I added carb heat to richen the mixture and tried to adjust the throttle to a power setting that would keep the thing running as smooth as possible without quitting. Tahts when the tower cleared me to land on rw 28.....straight in thankfully. I had plenty of altitude and a little more power available if needed, so I didn't declare an emergency. The engine quit on rollout, but I was able to restart it and taxi to the FBO where I was greeted by the Governer and the Natioal Guard (not really, but they were there due to the disasterous flooding in Binghampton NY). All roads closed into the area, no hotel rooms available due to the evacuations, machine shops underwater, and a FBO without any VW parts didn't stop us from still thinking we would make it to
Illinois.
A local VW racer had valve guides and the tools to replace the culprit and agreed to do the job. His normal 15 minute drive to the airport was about an hour each way, only because he knew a few roundabout roads that didn't happen to wash out. He arrived at the airport at 10:45 pm Friday night, with the repaired cyl head. This effort to help me out of a bind in spite of the disaster caused by the flood, is just one of many that I've seen or experienced personally throughout the aviation community. His name is Adam and he is a very generous person,, and must have really felt sorry for an old white haired guy. He did a quality repair. The FBO, Goodrich Aviation, was just as generous to Rod and I, virtually opening his shop and toolbox for 48 hours so that we could get going again. Doug Goodrich is this man's name and his website is www.GoodrichAviation.com. He also has a Facebook page where you might see a picture of a couple of
zombies with their repaired airplanes. Check him out.
Its now 11:00 pm and i decided to work on the engine after getting some rest. Notice I didn't say sleep, and I use the term rest loosely. We've now been 28 hours living on popcorn and coffee and spent Thursday night in a recliner. We watched the Gov's speech in the afternoon while waiting for the repair of the valve guide. He looked well fed and rested I thought as I tried to fall asleep in the cots we borrowed from the National Guard helicopter crew. We thought that cots would be better than the recliner, but this turned out to be our biggest and possibly only mistake of the trip. We got new cots, not the ones that the Guardsmen were using. I recognized the box material when the cots were removed from the boxes....the kind of cardboard that comes from China. These things were built to Chinese specs, just enough fabric to ensure that the metal edges touched bone no matter what position we were in. Ironic because our next planned stop
was Canton (OH).
Half asleep at 7:00 am saturday morning I began to reassemble N68DD with the hope of eating ribs with everyone later that day.
Must have been the lack of food and sleep that caused these thoughts, but didn't realize it at the time. I finished the repair at 9:30, ran up the engine for about 15 minutes and put the cowling on. I asked the tower fo the longest runway and requested 2 low approaches and a full stop. All went well throughout the full range of power settings, and we were ready to go.
We departed BGM at 11:00 am with full intentions of getting to the Field of Dreams. We were forced to land due to low ceilings and decided to scrub the mission. We landed at Port Meadville airport and borrowed the loaner car. We got a room and before even entering the room we went out for a real meal. Food was now driving our behavior and without a shower for 2 days we walked into a nice steak house, knowing that at 2:45 in the afternoon the risk of driving innocent customers out the door after getting a whiff of us was probably at the least. The steak and couple of beers that we enjoyed while isolated from the rest of the customers were the best we ever had, and had the effect of taking a triple dose of Ambian. We went to the hotel and slept from 5 pm to 9:30 pm (after showering). We managed to fully recover by Sunday morning and when aI woke up I called Sam to report our status. As I mentioned before, the remainder of the trip was
fantastic.
I'm glad everyone had a good time and most of all stayed safe.....we missed you guys.
Dave Dugas and Rod Herzig.

From: "JMasal@..." <JMasal@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] The weeken

I get an ear to ear grin when I see Dave Dugas plane at our events cause he is one intrepid aviator bringing down rrom
the far reaches of New England.I was delighted to know Dave and Rod intended to leap over the floods to get to Marion
Only to be dead stopped by a valve guide ??? problem. Know Dave that we were sending out good Khara waves and
hanging on every communication about your travails. I expect you will not be thwarted next time. You are a memorable guy and
we want to renew that memory.

j.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
To: Q-LIST <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Sun, Sep 11, 2011 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] The weekend is here - Tandem Wing Fly-in Marion, IL

Doug, we are so sorry you didn't make it to Marion. We were all looking
forward to seeing the two of you. It certainly wasn't because of lack
of effort. That is a lot of geography to cover without wx problems, let
along unexpected mechanical ones. We will be looking forward to the
next one and you being there.
Jerry Marstall

On 9/11/2011 12:01 AM, Sam Hoskins wrote:

Thanks for the effort guys, be safe.

Sam

Sent via this mobile gizmo.
On Sep 10, 2011 10:51 PM, "Dave Dugas" <davedq2@...
<mailto:davedq2%40yahoo.com>>;; wrote:
Hi Sam,
We are in Ohio tonight due to weather and fatigue. The situation in
Binghampton NY prevented us from finding a hotel, so we slept in a
recliner
and ate popcorn for 2 days. Had our first real meal tonight and promtly
fell asleep. Wished all day that we could be eating ribs a seeing everyone
tonight. The plane is running great and we are going to stay in Canton
tomorrow night and fly home on Monday. Hope everyone has a good time there
and stays safe. Looking forward to pictures and reports. I'll call
tomarrow
morning, might be a liittle late to call tonight.
Dave and Rod

From: Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...
<mailto:sam.hoskins%40gmail.com>>;;
To: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>;;
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] The weekend is here - Tandem Wing Fly-in
Marion, IL



Okay Dave, please stay in touch. My phone is 618-967-0016.
Sam

Sent via this mobile gizmo.
On Sep 9, 2011 7:01 PM, "Dave Dugas" <davedq2@...
<mailto:davedq2%40yahoo.com>>;; wrote:
Sam and Everyone,

Rod and I are in Binghamton NY. We had to land here last night due
to the
weather, and are witnessing the flooding. I am waiting for a local
mechanic
to install a valve guide on my cyl heads...we'll try to get there
tomorrow
Sat if its possible. We'll keep you posted.
Dave D

From: Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...
<mailto:sam.hoskins%40gmail.com>>;;
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 7:06 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] The weekend is here - Tandem Wing Fly-in Marion, IL



*Our first participant is already here. Alan Thayer flew in one of
those
big
aluminium tubes and is on the way for dinner.*
*
*
*Even if you're not a composites type of character, stop in on Saturday
morning, have breakfast, get your plane washed and watch a couple of
great
presentations. *

http://southernillinoisfieldofdreams.blogspot.com/

Sam

Friday:

Arrivals, greetings, hugs, and maybe some rides.

Friday evening, 6:30 : Dinner on the patio at Sergio's Mexican
restaurant,
in Herrin, IL.

Saturday:

8:00 - 9:30 Pancake breakfast provided by SIU's Rotor & Wing
association.
If you go away hungry, it's not our fault.

10:00 Professor Charley Rodriguez is going to demonstrate how
carburetors really work. Charley is a Wight Brothers historian, a
member
of
the Illinois Aviation Hall of Fame, an exceptional educator, and all
around
great guy. I guarantee a lot of "Gee, I didn't know that" moments.

11:00 The Cozy Girrrls <http://www.cozygirrrl.com/> will be
demonstrating their Lo-Vac method of vacuum bagging. I especially like
the
way they use low cost/no cost parts. This will be really interesting,
especially to those of us who are building our composite projects
the old
fashioned way. They Cozy Girrrls will also be displaying their Oil
Miser,
one of which is currently installed in my Q-200. I really appreciate
Chrissy & Randi stepping in on such short notice.

12:30 Working lunch. Introductions, awards, etc.

1:30 Engine cowlings off - a great show and tell. Photographs
are allowed.

6:30 World famous barbecue ribs at 17th Street Bar & Grill, in
Marion<http://www.17thstreetbarbecue.com/Locations.htm#Marion>.
Informal open seating in the back room.

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Re: The weekend

Mike Dwyer
 

Wow, quite a flight report. Thanks for sharing. Mike Q200

Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Dave Dugas
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 11:22 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] The weeken

Thanks Jim...I hate being thwarted. This was the first time that we had to throw in the towel. We got back home today at 5:30 pm after flying for a half hour from Canton OH through some lousy weather. When we got north of the junk we had a beautiful flight through upstate NY, over the Finger Lakes region. At 1:30 we landed at Penn Yann airport for fuel and took a loaner car into town for lunch. One of the most scenic areas for flying, especially the way the weather improved.
My engine issue was a stuck exhaust valve on the #2 cyl.
The Revmaster ran perfectly and when the valve hung up, it happened without warning. Only 12 hours on the cyl heads when it happened.
About 5 miles east of BGM, at 4200', I contacted the tower and reported landing...engine still running fine. I reduced power and thought that the engine would either quit or shake off. I added carb heat to richen the mixture and tried to adjust the throttle to a power setting that would keep the thing running as smooth as possible without quitting. Tahts when the tower cleared me to land on rw 28.....straight in thankfully. I had plenty of altitude and a little more power available if needed, so I didn't declare an emergency. The engine quit on rollout, but I was able to restart it and taxi to the FBO where I was greeted by the Governer and the Natioal Guard (not really, but they were there due to the disasterous flooding in Binghampton NY). All roads closed into the area, no hotel rooms available due to the evacuations, machine shops underwater, and a FBO without any VW parts didn't stop us from still thinking we would make it to
Illinois.
A local VW racer had valve guides and the tools to replace the culprit and agreed to do the job. His normal 15 minute drive to the airport was about an hour each way, only because he knew a few roundabout roads that didn't happen to wash out. He arrived at the airport at 10:45 pm Friday night, with the repaired cyl head. This effort to help me out of a bind in spite of the disaster caused by the flood, is just one of many that I've seen or experienced personally throughout the aviation community. His name is Adam and he is a very generous person,, and must have really felt sorry for an old white haired guy. He did a quality repair. The FBO, Goodrich Aviation, was just as generous to Rod and I, virtually opening his shop and toolbox for 48 hours so that we could get going again. Doug Goodrich is this man's name and his website is www.GoodrichAviation.com. He also has a Facebook page where you might see a picture of a couple of
zombies with their repaired airplanes. Check him out.
Its now 11:00 pm and i decided to work on the engine after getting some rest. Notice I didn't say sleep, and I use the term rest loosely. We've now been 28 hours living on popcorn and coffee and spent Thursday night in a recliner. We watched the Gov's speech in the afternoon while waiting for the repair of the valve guide. He looked well fed and rested I thought as I tried to fall asleep in the cots we borrowed from the National Guard helicopter crew. We thought that cots would be better than the recliner, but this turned out to be our biggest and possibly only mistake of the trip. We got new cots, not the ones that the Guardsmen were using. I recognized the box material when the cots were removed from the boxes....the kind of cardboard that comes from China. These things were built to Chinese specs, just enough fabric to ensure that the metal edges touched bone no matter what position we were in. Ironic because our next planned stop
was Canton (OH).
Half asleep at 7:00 am saturday morning I began to reassemble N68DD with the hope of eating ribs with everyone later that day.
Must have been the lack of food and sleep that caused these thoughts, but didn't realize it at the time. I finished the repair at 9:30, ran up the engine for about 15 minutes and put the cowling on. I asked the tower fo the longest runway and requested 2 low approaches and a full stop. All went well throughout the full range of power settings, and we were ready to go.
We departed BGM at 11:00 am with full intentions of getting to the Field of Dreams. We were forced to land due to low ceilings and decided to scrub the mission. We landed at Port Meadville airport and borrowed the loaner car. We got a room and before even entering the room we went out for a real meal. Food was now driving our behavior and without a shower for 2 days we walked into a nice steak house, knowing that at 2:45 in the afternoon the risk of driving innocent customers out the door after getting a whiff of us was probably at the least. The steak and couple of beers that we enjoyed while isolated from the rest of the customers were the best we ever had, and had the effect of taking a triple dose of Ambian. We went to the hotel and slept from 5 pm to 9:30 pm (after showering). We managed to fully recover by Sunday morning and when aI woke up I called Sam to report our status. As I mentioned before, the remainder of the trip was
fantastic.
I'm glad everyone had a good time and most of all stayed safe.....we missed you guys.
Dave Dugas and Rod Herzig.

From: "JMasal@..." <JMasal@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] The weeken




I get an ear to ear grin when I see Dave Dugas plane at our events cause he is one intrepid aviator bringing down rrom
the far reaches of New England.I was delighted to know Dave and Rod intended to leap over the floods to get to Marion
Only to be dead stopped by a valve guide ??? problem. Know Dave that we were sending out good Khara waves and
hanging on every communication about your travails. I expect you will not be thwarted next time. You are a memorable guy and
we want to renew that memory.

j.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
To: Q-LIST <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Sun, Sep 11, 2011 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] The weekend is here - Tandem Wing Fly-in Marion, IL

Doug, we are so sorry you didn't make it to Marion. We were all looking
forward to seeing the two of you. It certainly wasn't because of lack
of effort. That is a lot of geography to cover without wx problems, let
along unexpected mechanical ones. We will be looking forward to the
next one and you being there.
Jerry Marstall

On 9/11/2011 12:01 AM, Sam Hoskins wrote:

Thanks for the effort guys, be safe.

Sam

Sent via this mobile gizmo.
On Sep 10, 2011 10:51 PM, "Dave Dugas" <davedq2@...
<mailto:davedq2%40yahoo.com>>; wrote:
Hi Sam,
We are in Ohio tonight due to weather and fatigue. The situation in
Binghampton NY prevented us from finding a hotel, so we slept in a
recliner
and ate popcorn for 2 days. Had our first real meal tonight and promtly
fell asleep. Wished all day that we could be eating ribs a seeing everyone
tonight. The plane is running great and we are going to stay in Canton
tomorrow night and fly home on Monday. Hope everyone has a good time there
and stays safe. Looking forward to pictures and reports. I'll call
tomarrow
morning, might be a liittle late to call tonight.
Dave and Rod

From: Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...
<mailto:sam.hoskins%40gmail.com>>;
To: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>;
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] The weekend is here - Tandem Wing Fly-in
Marion, IL



Okay Dave, please stay in touch. My phone is 618-967-0016.
Sam

Sent via this mobile gizmo.
On Sep 9, 2011 7:01 PM, "Dave Dugas" <davedq2@...
<mailto:davedq2%40yahoo.com>>; wrote:
Sam and Everyone,

Rod and I are in Binghamton NY. We had to land here last night due
to the
weather, and are witnessing the flooding. I am waiting for a local
mechanic
to install a valve guide on my cyl heads...we'll try to get there
tomorrow
Sat if its possible. We'll keep you posted.
Dave D

From: Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...
<mailto:sam.hoskins%40gmail.com>>;
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 7:06 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] The weekend is here - Tandem Wing Fly-in Marion, IL



*Our first participant is already here. Alan Thayer flew in one of
those
big
aluminium tubes and is on the way for dinner.*
*
*
*Even if you're not a composites type of character, stop in on Saturday
morning, have breakfast, get your plane washed and watch a couple of
great
presentations. *

http://southernillinoisfieldofdreams.blogspot.com/

Sam

Friday:

Arrivals, greetings, hugs, and maybe some rides.

Friday evening, 6:30 : Dinner on the patio at Sergio's Mexican
restaurant,
in Herrin, IL.

Saturday:

8:00 - 9:30 Pancake breakfast provided by SIU's Rotor & Wing
association.
If you go away hungry, it's not our fault.

10:00 Professor Charley Rodriguez is going to demonstrate how
carburetors really work. Charley is a Wight Brothers historian, a
member
of
the Illinois Aviation Hall of Fame, an exceptional educator, and all
around
great guy. I guarantee a lot of "Gee, I didn't know that" moments.

11:00 The Cozy Girrrls <http://www.cozygirrrl.com/> will be
demonstrating their Lo-Vac method of vacuum bagging. I especially like
the
way they use low cost/no cost parts. This will be really interesting,
especially to those of us who are building our composite projects
the old
fashioned way. They Cozy Girrrls will also be displaying their Oil
Miser,
one of which is currently installed in my Q-200. I really appreciate
Chrissy & Randi stepping in on such short notice.

12:30 Working lunch. Introductions, awards, etc.

1:30 Engine cowlings off - a great show and tell. Photographs
are allowed.

6:30 World famous barbecue ribs at 17th Street Bar & Grill, in
Marion<http://www.17thstreetbarbecue.com/Locations.htm#Marion>.
Informal open seating in the back room.
















Re: The weeken

Dave Dugas
 

Thanks Jim...I hate being thwarted.  This was the first time that  we had to throw in the towel.  We got back home today at 5:30 pm after flying for a half hour from Canton OH through some lousy weather.  When  we got north of the junk we had a beautiful flight through upstate NY, over the Finger Lakes region.  At 1:30 we landed at Penn Yann airport for fuel and took a loaner car into town for lunch.  One of the most scenic areas for flying, especially the way the weather improved.
My engine issue was a stuck exhaust valve on the #2 cyl.
  The Revmaster ran perfectly and when the valve hung up, it happened without warning.  Only 12 hours on the cyl heads when it happened.
  About 5 miles east of BGM, at 4200', I contacted the tower and reported landing...engine still running fine.  I reduced power and thought that the engine would either quit or shake off.  I added carb heat to richen the mixture and tried to adjust the throttle to a power setting that would keep the thing running as smooth as possible without quitting. Tahts when the tower cleared me to land on rw 28.....straight in thankfully.  I had plenty of altitude and a little more power available if needed, so I didn't declare an emergency.  The engine quit on rollout, but I was able to restart it and taxi to the FBO where I was greeted by  the Governer and the Natioal Guard (not really, but they were there due to the disasterous flooding in Binghampton NY).  All roads closed into the area, no hotel rooms available due to the evacuations, machine shops underwater, and a FBO without any VW parts didn't stop us from still thinking we would make it to
Illinois.
   A local VW racer had valve guides and the tools to replace the culprit and agreed to do the job.  His normal 15 minute drive to the airport was about an hour each way, only because he knew a few roundabout roads that didn't happen to wash out.  He arrived at the airport at 10:45 pm Friday night, with the repaired cyl head.  This effort to help me out of a bind in spite of the disaster caused by the flood, is just one of many that I've seen or experienced personally throughout the aviation community.  His name is Adam and he is a very generous person,, and must have really felt sorry for an old white haired guy.  He did  a quality repair.  The FBO, Goodrich Aviation, was just as generous to Rod and I, virtually opening his shop and toolbox for 48 hours so that we could get going again.  Doug Goodrich is this man's name and his website is www.GoodrichAviation.com.  He also has a Facebook page where you might see a picture of a couple of
zombies with their repaired airplanes.  Check him out. 
  Its now 11:00 pm and i decided to work on the engine after getting some rest.  Notice I didn't say sleep, and I use the term rest loosely.  We've now been 28 hours living on popcorn and coffee and spent Thursday night in a recliner.  We watched the Gov's speech in the afternoon while waiting for the repair of the valve guide.  He looked well fed and rested I thought as I tried to fall asleep in the cots we borrowed from the National Guard helicopter crew. We thought that cots would be better than the recliner, but this turned out to be our biggest and possibly only mistake of the trip.  We got new cots, not the ones that the Guardsmen were using.  I recognized the box material when the cots were removed from the boxes....the kind of cardboard that comes from China.  These things were built to Chinese specs, just enough fabric to ensure that the metal edges touched bone no matter what position we were in.  Ironic because our next planned stop
was Canton (OH).
  Half asleep at 7:00 am saturday morning I began to reassemble N68DD with the hope of eating ribs with everyone later that day.
Must have been the lack of food and sleep that caused these thoughts, but didn't realize it at the time. I finished the repair at 9:30, ran up the engine for about 15 minutes and put the cowling on.  I asked the tower fo the longest runway and requested 2 low approaches and a full stop.  All went well throughout the full range of power settings, and we were ready to go.
  We departed BGM at 11:00 am with full intentions of getting to the Field of Dreams.  We were forced to land due to low ceilings and decided to scrub the mission.  We landed at Port Meadville airport and borrowed the loaner car.  We got a room and before even entering the room we went out for a real meal. Food was now driving our behavior and without a shower for 2 days we walked into a nice steak house, knowing that at 2:45 in the afternoon the risk of driving innocent customers out the door after getting a whiff of us was probably at the least.  The steak and couple of beers that we enjoyed while isolated from the rest of the customers were the best we ever had, and had the effect of taking a triple dose of Ambian.  We went to the hotel and slept from 5 pm to 9:30 pm (after showering).  We managed  to fully recover by Sunday morning and when aI woke up I called Sam to report our status.  As I mentioned before, the remainder of the trip was
fantastic.
  I'm glad everyone had a good time and most of all stayed safe.....we missed you guys.
Dave Dugas and Rod Herzig.

From: "JMasal@..." <JMasal@...>
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] The weeken


 

I get an ear to ear grin when I see Dave Dugas plane at our events cause he is one intrepid aviator bringing down rrom
the far reaches of New England.I was delighted to know Dave and Rod intended to leap over the floods to get to Marion
Only to be dead stopped by a valve guide ??? problem. Know Dave that we were sending out good Khara waves and
hanging on every communication about your travails. I expect you will not be thwarted next time. You are a memorable guy and
we want to renew that memory.

j.

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From: Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
To: Q-LIST <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Sun, Sep 11, 2011 5:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] The weekend is here - Tandem Wing Fly-in Marion, IL

Doug, we are so sorry you didn't make it to Marion. We were all looking
forward to seeing the two of you. It certainly wasn't because of lack
of effort. That is a lot of geography to cover without wx problems, let
along unexpected mechanical ones. We will be looking forward to the
next one and you being there.
Jerry Marstall

On 9/11/2011 12:01 AM, Sam Hoskins wrote:

Thanks for the effort guys, be safe.

Sam

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On Sep 10, 2011 10:51 PM, "Dave Dugas" <davedq2@...
<mailto:davedq2%40yahoo.com>>; wrote:
Hi Sam,
We are in Ohio tonight due to weather and fatigue. The situation in
Binghampton NY prevented us from finding a hotel, so we slept in a
recliner
and ate popcorn for 2 days. Had our first real meal tonight and promtly
fell asleep. Wished all day that we could be eating ribs a seeing everyone
tonight. The plane is running great and we are going to stay in Canton
tomorrow night and fly home on Monday. Hope everyone has a good time there
and stays safe. Looking forward to pictures and reports. I'll call
tomarrow
morning, might be a liittle late to call tonight.
Dave and Rod

From: Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...
<mailto:sam.hoskins%40gmail.com>>;
To: Q-LIST@... <mailto:Q-LIST%40yahoogroups.com>;
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] The weekend is here - Tandem Wing Fly-in
Marion, IL



Okay Dave, please stay in touch. My phone is 618-967-0016.
Sam

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On Sep 9, 2011 7:01 PM, "Dave Dugas" <davedq2@...
<mailto:davedq2%40yahoo.com>>; wrote:
Sam and Everyone,

Rod and I are in Binghamton NY. We had to land here last night due
to the
weather, and are witnessing the flooding. I am waiting for a local
mechanic
to install a valve guide on my cyl heads...we'll try to get there
tomorrow
Sat if its possible. We'll keep you posted.
Dave D

From: Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...
<mailto:sam.hoskins%40gmail.com>>;
To:
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2011 7:06 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] The weekend is here - Tandem Wing Fly-in Marion, IL



*Our first participant is already here. Alan Thayer flew in one of
those
big
aluminium tubes and is on the way for dinner.*
*
*
*Even if you're not a composites type of character, stop in on Saturday
morning, have breakfast, get your plane washed and watch a couple of
great
presentations. *

http://southernillinoisfieldofdreams.blogspot.com/

Sam

Friday:

Arrivals, greetings, hugs, and maybe some rides.

Friday evening, 6:30 : Dinner on the patio at Sergio's Mexican
restaurant,
in Herrin, IL.

Saturday:

8:00 - 9:30 Pancake breakfast provided by SIU's Rotor & Wing
association.
If you go away hungry, it's not our fault.

10:00 Professor Charley Rodriguez is going to demonstrate how
carburetors really work. Charley is a Wight Brothers historian, a
member
of
the Illinois Aviation Hall of Fame, an exceptional educator, and all
around
great guy. I guarantee a lot of "Gee, I didn't know that" moments.

11:00 The Cozy Girrrls <http://www.cozygirrrl.com/> will be
demonstrating their Lo-Vac method of vacuum bagging. I especially like
the
way they use low cost/no cost parts. This will be really interesting,
especially to those of us who are building our composite projects
the old
fashioned way. They Cozy Girrrls will also be displaying their Oil
Miser,
one of which is currently installed in my Q-200. I really appreciate
Chrissy & Randi stepping in on such short notice.

12:30 Working lunch. Introductions, awards, etc.

1:30 Engine cowlings off - a great show and tell. Photographs
are allowed.

6:30 World famous barbecue ribs at 17th Street Bar & Grill, in
Marion<http://www.17thstreetbarbecue.com/Locations.htm#Marion>.
Informal open seating in the back room.

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Re: Checking in after the fly-in.

Sam Kittle
 

I am not home yet, but I spent last night at Whiteman AFB, home of the B-2. After the drive from Marion, it felt good to go for a long walk along the flight-line. There was a full moon and two B-2's took to the sky between me and the moon. What a privilege!
Thanks to everyone for making the effort to show up in Marion, seeing all of those smiling faces and beautiful Q's keeps me coming back each year. Sam, the timing of events couldn't have been better.

Thanks to all,
Sam Kittle
On Sep 12, 2011, at 7:34 AM, JMasal@... wrote:


Ho humm, another safe commercial flight home to Dallas. Flying stand-by on a busy weekend is sometimes iffy but for some reason Southwest added an extra flight in the 5 o'clock hour and loaded lots of stand-by passengers Wuz home by 7p. Had a nice drive to STL with Kittle up thru the MO/cape girardeau side. Nice countryside with rocks and rolling forests. Good camping I'll bet but not so good for landing out! Home is as I remembered...HOT... and still burning.
Thanks to Sam, Sandi and all the Saluki's for an educational and entertaining weekend
even tho the sometimes mucky weather caused late arrivals and a couple no-shows.

Jim

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From: Sam Kittle <skittle@...>
To: Q-LIST <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Sun, Sep 11, 2011 4:25 pm
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Checking in after the fly-in.

Sam & Bruce

We enjoyed the high speed passes on your departure.

Sam Kittle

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On Sep 11, 2011, at 11:35 AM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Just thought I would check in, the 4 minute flight home was uneventful.

Sam

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