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Re: QBA Website Down. . .

Gary McKirdy
 

Hi Dan,

As you requested, I have done a peice (4 page word doc) on the Reflexor and
T-Tail more or less from scratch.

I could spend time improving it or send as is and update it later if you
like.

I am very short of time until January now preparing for a ski leader course
for the next 2 weeks which requires me to be in the Alps for 2 weeks in
December.

Would you like me to send it to you now or in January?

Regards
Gary McKirdy

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:03 AM, <dan@...> wrote:

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Hey All,
This is just a "quick heads up" LOL!

I am performing a major software upgrade on the QBA website, so I have
to take the site down for a few days.

I will probably have a "limited edition" of the site back up within a
couple of days, and then add back or improve most of the features as I
learn all of the added features over the coming weeks. The plan is to
have everything back online 100% by the next newsletter (December 31st)

The new site will have a different look when I'm finished, and hopfully
you'll find it easier to navigate. If you have any questions, or need
something from the "old" site please e-mail me offlist and I will try to
help out.

I aplologize for any inconvenience, but appreciate your patience.

Warm regards,
Dan Yager
QBA Editor
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QBA Website Down. . .

quickheads
 

Hey All,
This is just a "quick heads up" LOL!

I am performing a major software upgrade on the QBA website, so I have to take the site down for a few days.

I will probably have a "limited edition" of the site back up within a couple of days, and then add back or improve most of the features as I learn all of the added features over the coming weeks. The plan is to have everything back online 100% by the next newsletter (December 31st)

The new site will have a different look when I'm finished, and hopfully you'll find it easier to navigate. If you have any questions, or need something from the "old" site please e-mail me offlist and I will try to help out.

I aplologize for any inconvenience, but appreciate your patience.

Warm regards,
Dan Yager
QBA Editor
www.quickheads.com


Re: Another day at the races

Trevor Fernihough <spilligans@...>
 

Wow, so Sam is doing 5.5L/100k - as good as my Jazz and a whole lot faster (272k/hr v's 110k/hr) and more fun

T


Re: Another day at the races

Rick Hole
 

The US gallon is 3.785 liters. Why do we put up with such an antiquated
system!

Rick

Finishing construction of 2nd Q2 main wing


Re: Another day at the races

Bruce Crain
 

Good going Sam! Can't keep up with you!Bruce

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Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Another day at the races
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 19:31:53 -0500 (EST)


Great job Sam.

Regards,

Charlie


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sam.hoskins@... writes:

Last one of the season.

http://samhoskins.blogspot.com/2011/11/great-little-machine-another-day-at.h
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Re: Another day at the races

One Sky Dog
 

Great job Sam.

Regards,

Charlie

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sam.hoskins@... writes:

Last one of the season.

http://samhoskins.blogspot.com/2011/11/great-little-machine-another-day-at.h
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Re: Another day at the races

Trevor Fernihough <spilligans@...>
 

Very excellent post Sam.
Here in Australia, we do knots and mph and gph here for aircraft stuff, but kilometers/per hour (kph) and litres/hour (L/h) for motor vehicles.
You folk of course use US gallons (4L/gallon if I am correct) while we use imperial gallons (4.5L/gallon)
I can't help myself so end up bringing everything back to kph and L/h and L/110k, as it gives me a referrence to my very
efficient little Honda Jazz which does 5.5L/100k. On your figures of 170mph and 4.5g/h (US) I come up with 6.6L/100k,
which is very economical indeed and not far off my Jazz which is one of the best.
Aint the Q a great little eco machine ?
Mind you it takes some clever bloke like you to tweek it up to get those nice numbers , but non the less you are starting
with the right equipment......a thoroughbred race horse and not a draft horse.
Pity the bloody thing kills so many of it's jokeys when being put back into the stables !

Good on ya mate

Trevor


Another day at the races

Sam Hoskins
 


Re: Parts + Paper = Pink slip

quickheads
 

Congrats Charlie! Please keep us posted on your taxi and flight
testing.

Cheers,
Dan Yager
QBA Editor
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Sat, 19 Nov 2011 20:35:39 -0500 (EST), oneskydog@... wrote:

Hi
all!!!

I have spent 5.5 years putting together a collection of
parts and a couple
of months putting together a stack of paper. Today
I met with a DAR and
about 4 hours later I have a pink airworthiness
certificate and an official
airplane.

My Dragonfly/Corvair
N187CD became an airplane today!!! I will proceed to
do the first
flight when everything is given a final checkout and the
weather is
just right. The rest of the 40 hours of testing and data gathering
will follow as weather permits.

Count me as one of the soon to be
one hundred flying Corvairs.

Keep Building,

Charlie Johnson
Owner of a new Dragon/vair

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Re: [Dragonflylist] Parts + Paper = Pink slip

Sam Hoskins
 

Yeaaa Charlie!

Sent via this mobile gizmo.

On Nov 19, 2011 7:50 PM, <oneskydog@...> wrote:

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____________________________________
From: oneskydog@...

Hi all!!!

I have spent 5.5 years putting together a collection of parts and a couple

of months putting together a stack of paper. Today I met with a DAR and
about 4 hours later I have a pink airworthiness certificate and an
official
airplane.

My Dragonfly/Corvair N187CD became an airplane today!!! I will proceed to
do the first flight when everything is given a final checkout and the
weather is just right. The rest of the 40 hours of testing and data
gathering
will follow as weather permits.

Count me as one of the soon to be one hundred flying Corvairs.

Keep Building,

Charlie Johnson
Owner of a new Dragon/vair





Re: Parts + Paper = Pink slip

Bruce Crain
 

Oh thank God Charlie! When I saw "pink slip" my mind went a different way! Congrats on the new Airworthiness Cert! You are gonna love that 100 horse engine! Especially at your surrounding area! Can't wait to see you and your Dragonfly in person! Our Dragonfly/Quickie numbers have increased by 2 in the last 2 weeks with Dr. Imraan Pharook also! Now the test flights, inspections and adjustments etc. Winter may be the best time to bring an airplane on line as the temps are less likely to be a problem.Keep us informed!Blessings!Bruce
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[Dragonflylist] Parts + Paper = Pink slip

One Sky Dog
 

____________________________________
From: oneskydog@...

Hi all!!!

I have spent 5.5 years putting together a collection of parts and a couple

of months putting together a stack of paper. Today I met with a DAR and
about 4 hours later I have a pink airworthiness certificate and an
official
airplane.

My Dragonfly/Corvair N187CD became an airplane today!!! I will proceed to
do the first flight when everything is given a final checkout and the
weather is just right. The rest of the 40 hours of testing and data
gathering
will follow as weather permits.

Count me as one of the soon to be one hundred flying Corvairs.

Keep Building,

Charlie Johnson
Owner of a new Dragon/vair


Parts + Paper = Pink slip

One Sky Dog
 

Hi all!!!

I have spent 5.5 years putting together a collection of parts and a couple
of months putting together a stack of paper. Today I met with a DAR and
about 4 hours later I have a pink airworthiness certificate and an official
airplane.

My Dragonfly/Corvair N187CD became an airplane today!!! I will proceed to
do the first flight when everything is given a final checkout and the
weather is just right. The rest of the 40 hours of testing and data gathering
will follow as weather permits.

Count me as one of the soon to be one hundred flying Corvairs.

Keep Building,

Charlie Johnson
Owner of a new Dragon/vair


Engine update - N240JS

Joseph M Snow <1flashq@...>
 

Below is a proposed update of my Corvair 2700 cc engine based upon testing at Corvair College #21 and William Wynn's comments.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph M Snow <1flashq@...>
To: WilliamTCA <WilliamTCA@...>
Sent: Fri, Nov 18, 2011 12:12 pm
Subject: Engine update - N240JS



























William,
 
Below is an update I have drafted for The Q-list.  I have two questions:  (1)Did you change the distributor setting shortly after engine start?  If so, did you increase or decrease the advance?  (2)  Is the Warp drive prop at the same setting as those engines used to establish the "Direct Drive Corvair Engine Spec Sheet" published on your web site? And, what is that setting, e.g. 9 deg.?
 
Joseph
 
 
Hello Q-listers,
 
On July 22, 2011 N240JS suffered substantial damage during its first flight. For details see attached NTSB report attached.
 
I removed the engine from the Q2xx airframe exactly as it remained after the accident, e.g. crankshaft position, distributor setting, wires, oil, etc.
 
I transported the engine to Corvair College #21 at Barnwell, SC.  It was placed on the engine test stand.  A Warp Drive test prop was installed with a pitch setting standard for Corvair 2700cc engines.
 
The engine was started by William Wynn and allowed to warm up.  Mr. Wynn checked the distributor setting.  The engine was advanced to WOT.  A digital optical tachometer recorded the static rpm at 3160.  William Wynn's testing indicates that a Corvair engine develops 100 hp at 3150 rpm and 160 ft/lbs torque at 2800 rpm ,  http://www.flycorvair.com/corvair.html  
 
After the test run, Mr. Wynn rotated the prop by hand and reported the engine rotated smoothly and compression between the cylinders seemed even.  The engine was disassembled  There was no metal observed in the oil pan.  There was no visual damage to the cam gear, the crankshaft or the main bearing shells.  The aluminum cam gear will be replaced.  The crankshaft main journals were tested for runout using a dial indicator.  The runout was less than 1 thousanth.  The crankshaft will be magnafluxed.
 
The result of this test seems to confirm that the Sterba 54X57 prop prevented my Corvair engine from spinning up to its horsepower potential during the first flight of my Q2xx and prevented the aircraft from accelerating to its recommended 100 mph climbout speed.  Mr. Wynn is recommending a Sensenich 54/54 wood propeller for the Q2/Corvair (2700 cc) combination.
 
For photos of the test, follow this link:  http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar.html, photo # 12 & 22.
 
Joseph Snow
Q2xx, N240JS
 
William Wynn's reply:
 

Joseph,
 
I altered the timing just slightly on your engine after the the first run at power, the change was only +2 degrees,
this doesn't make much difference on a Corvair at that setting. Because of the cylinder head design the Corvair
makes its maximum power at 34-36 degrees of advance, which it can only run on 100 LL for. However, we use
30-32 degrees because extensive dyno tests have shown that the power reduction is only 2-3%, while giving
the engine a very wide margin against detonation. Your engine was set about 31 degrees, I bumped it to 33 or so,
no change in rpm was noted.
 
The prop we use on the run stand is a 62" Warp drive with a pitch setting that static's at 3100rpm on a 2700cc
engine, or about 3250 on a 3,000cc Corvair.  This setting allows us to check that the engine makes it full rated power
in comparison to other engines. A typical Zenith 601XL flying a Warp Drive prop uses a 66" prop set at 9.5 degrees.
this produces a static rpm of 2750 to 2800, which will peak out at 3200rpm  at WOT in level flight. Produces the best
combination of cruise and climb in that airframe. 2700cc Corvairs in faster airframes use props like 54x54 sensenichs
which will static over 2950, which is well into the corvairs power, combined with a blade angle that gives very efficient pull
from brake release. Even though 54" does not sound like much pitch, a KR-2s with this pitch on a Corvair has exceeded
180mph in level flight at sea level. The rpm was over 3700, but this does not bother the engine, It turned 3500 rpm at 70mph
in the car. My conclusion is the same as yours, that the engine had a mis-matched prop on it for your application. The Q's
thrust requirements were not met because the combination of the engine being too low in the powerband and the high pitch
setting of the prop having much of it's blade area stalled. A lower performance airframe with lower wing and span loading
would have tolerated this, for example, we have had 270 pilot unknowingly TO in a 601 on 5 cylinders...4 times. Only on
his 5th flight did he discover the missing plug wire. The Q-2 isn't this forgiving, and I think your issue could
have been avoided with a better prop match.


 

Thank you.
 
William Wynne
http://www.flycorvair.com/hangar.html - CC #21



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Re: New (First) Flight Report(s)

Bruce Crain
 

Excellent Blog Imraan!
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Re: Heard on landing...

Robert Bounds
 

"Did you haul that here?"

Bounds

----- Original Message -----
From: jcrain2@...
To: Q-LIST@...
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Heard on landing...



Does it fly backwards?One Lady controller at Addison, TX said "Oh that's so pretty...(I said) that's what I was trying to do thank you!

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To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Heard on landing...
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:38:35 -0500

"You don't actually fly that thing do you?"

On 11/17/2011 11:30 AM, quickieaircraft wrote:
>
> My first flight report is too long for an email, so I'll let you know
> when I get it posted elsewhere. For now, I thought it might be fun to
> compile a list of "heard on landing" phrases. I'll start you off with
> a couple from my trip back:
>
> "Hey, somebody got your tail feathers!!"
>
> "What do you call that?" and "What *is* it?"
>
> "I hope this isn't insulting, but did you built that yourself?"
>
> "I'm sorry, you looked like a helicopter." Class D tower, upon my
> declining a 2200 ft LAHSO clearance.
>
> "Is that a Dragonfly?" (this happens surprisingly often)
>
>




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Re: New (First) Flight Report(s)

Bruce Crain
 

Yippee Skippee! I told Dr. Imraan that I felt like I was living vicariously through his trip home! Sounds like you have a pretty fast TriQ at 150 to 160 mph! Sounds like you are taking care to check the plane out well to. It should make a very good cross country airplane for you! Thanks for the great write up! We all look forward to hearing success stories!BlessingsBruce

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To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] New (First) Flight Report(s)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:32:28 -0000


Some of my first flights on a plane that hadn't flown in a while. See http://cuesmile.wordpress.com/

Comments welcome! I'll try to update that site regularly, so if I forget, you're welcome to remind me.

Many thanks to Bruce for his help.

imraan
Tri Q200 11.5hrs, yaayy!



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New (First) Flight Report(s)

quickieaircraft
 

Some of my first flights on a plane that hadn't flown in a while. See http://cuesmile.wordpress.com/

Comments welcome! I'll try to update that site regularly, so if I forget, you're welcome to remind me.

Many thanks to Bruce for his help.

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Re: Good composite or electrical book

Brock Schuler <durabol35@...>
 

Unfortunately their is not a lot of good "how to"
books on composites other than very general information or very complex. A
computer program might be the best approach. I have found aircraft plans of a
similar design/construction technique to be the most useful. The Quickie and
Polliwagen plans on the CFAIR yahoo groups as well as the KR-Super2 (on the
net) and the Rutan CD of his designs have helped the most. The most useful book
I have found is Jim Marske's book "Composite Design Manual" although
it is geared towards gliders it has some valuable (simple) wing stress and
bending calculations. The book "Composite Basics" by Andrew Marshall
has some similar wing stress calculations to Marske's book but also covers how
to go about designing a seat belt fitting in a simple way.
Brock
 
 
I have bought at least one "How to" book - specifically Martin Hollmann's 'How to build composite aircraft" and was very disappointed in it. It goes from very basic to some specifics for 1 or 2 specific aircraft. What I want is something more along the lines of various layup procedures, types of construction (ie attaching hard points to the airframe, different types of reinforcement, etc).
I will also be looking for a good electronics book for guidance on the panel.
Mike, Tri-Q200, still building in LA


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Heard on Landing...

Bob Farnam <bfarnam@...>
 

My favorite was heard after waiting in a long line to takeoff from the Golden West Flyin a few years ago. "Rutan design, position and hold"

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