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Re: 2015 FOD Fly-In [2 Attachments]

Sam Kittle
 

I am planning to be there Dave.

Sam Kittle


On Sep 9, 2015, at 7:13 AM, davedq2@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Hi Everyone
The 2015 FOD Fly-In is just about 2 weeks away.  The weather in New England at the end of September is perfect for flying, and the higher elevations will have fall foliage colors on display.  Last years weather was perfect, and I’m hoping for the same this year.
The dates are Sept. 25th-27th, but any time during the week would be fine. The Travel Inn is about a mile from the airport, and the rooms are reasonable and clean.  Prices are $55 for a single bed and $65 for rooms with 2 beds.  The phone number is (978)544-2986.  KORE has a neat courtesy car available for transportation all weekend, a Humvee from Fort Devens.
I’d like to hear who is planning to attend so I can be sure there is plenty to eat and drink, and to know how many aliens to invite.  I’m hoping for good attendance, as this is the 25th anniversary of the Field of Dreams Fly-in. As I’ve said, if anyone needs help with anything, or has any questions, feel free to send an e-mail or call me on my cell phone….(413)772-9165.
Thanks and hope to hear from all…..Dave Dugas 

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2015 FOD Fly-In

Dave Dugas
 

Hi Everyone
The 2015 FOD Fly-In is just about 2 weeks away.  The weather in New England at the end of September is perfect for flying, and the higher elevations will have fall foliage colors on display.  Last years weather was perfect, and I’m hoping for the same this year.
The dates are Sept. 25th-27th, but any time during the week would be fine. The Travel Inn is about a mile from the airport, and the rooms are reasonable and clean.  Prices are $55 for a single bed and $65 for rooms with 2 beds.  The phone number is (978)544-2986.  KORE has a neat courtesy car available for transportation all weekend, a Humvee from Fort Devens.
I’d like to hear who is planning to attend so I can be sure there is plenty to eat and drink, and to know how many aliens to invite.  I’m hoping for good attendance, as this is the 25th anniversary of the Field of Dreams Fly-in. As I’ve said, if anyone needs help with anything, or has any questions, feel free to send an e-mail or call me on my cell phone….(413)772-9165.
Thanks and hope to hear from all…..Dave Dugas 

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West Coast - N46JP

Jim Patillo
 

The Q was crank-in'  today. Great commuter. See new uploaded photo.

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Re: Certification paperwork

Kevin Sheely
 

Last year I had to fill out this form for my Q200 (https://www.faa.gov/aircraft/gen_av/ultralights/amateur_built/kits/media/AmBuiltFabAssyCklistFW.pdf)

Kevin


From: Sam Hoskins sam.hoskins@... [Q-LIST] ;
To: Quickie List Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Certification paperwork
Sent: Fri, Sep 4, 2015 10:10:24 PM

 

Find out who your designated representative is likely to be and contact him. Phone call. Get it from the horses mouth.

Sam

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On Sep 4, 2015 5:57 PM, "jay@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Starting to work through some of the paperwork associated with certifying my Q. The kit is not listed on the FAA list of 51% owner built. May have been there at some point, but not now. The other option is to fill out the FAA form 8000-39, where I certify that I have built at least 51% of the aircraft. Have any of you recent bulders done it this way?  Is this the proper procedure? Demonstrating 51% will be slam dunk, but I don't want to get cross-wise right out of the gate by doing things the wrong way. Advice welcome.

Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building



Re: Certification paperwork

Sam Hoskins
 

Find out who your designated representative is likely to be and contact him. Phone call. Get it from the horses mouth.

Sam

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On Sep 4, 2015 5:57 PM, "jay@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Starting to work through some of the paperwork associated with certifying my Q. The kit is not listed on the FAA list of 51% owner built. May have been there at some point, but not now. The other option is to fill out the FAA form 8000-39, where I certify that I have built at least 51% of the aircraft. Have any of you recent bulders done it this way?  Is this the proper procedure? Demonstrating 51% will be slam dunk, but I don't want to get cross-wise right out of the gate by doing things the wrong way. Advice welcome.

Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building



Certification paperwork

Jay Scheevel
 

Starting to work through some of the paperwork associated with certifying my Q. The kit is not listed on the FAA list of 51% owner built. May have been there at some point, but not now. The other option is to fill out the FAA form 8000-39, where I certify that I have built at least 51% of the aircraft. Have any of you recent bulders done it this way?  Is this the proper procedure? Demonstrating 51% will be slam dunk, but I don't want to get cross-wise right out of the gate by doing things the wrong way. Advice welcome.

Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building



Re: ADS-B

Larry Severson
 

One problem with the ADS system, there are still planes with no electrical system or a failed transponder. Too much reliance on the system will get you killed due to a mid air.

 

Larry Severson

18242 Peters Ct

Fountain Valley, CA  92708

(714) 968-9852

 

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
Sent: Friday, September 4, 2015 8:09 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] ADS-B

 

 


It seems that most of the avionics manufacturers have been introducing their latest ADS-B offerings with promised low pricing to get interest in the market. Then the price magically goes up quite a bit when the product actually makes it to market. Right now $1500 isn't too bad for an ADS-B setup provided you can install it yourself and have a place to mount it. When it comes time for me to equip the Q-1 it may be a challenge to find a mounting location. Experimental owners have it a bit easier than certificated. Right now it looks like it could cost me close to $6000 to equip my Grumman Yankee.

Experimental aircraft should probably wait to see what the market brings closer to 2020 since they can be self-installed. I am waiting on both myself to see if any of the all-in-one transponder solutions get more reasonably priced.

Dan


From the RV-List

Price started at 699 then went to 799, and I just saw 869, Now up to $1049 as of 5/7/2015, $1149 as of 9-3-2015.

I think I'll wait to 2020.

Mike Q200 N3QP

 

 




Re: ADS-B

Bruce Crain
 


Re: ADS-B

Dan L
 


It seems that most of the avionics manufacturers have been introducing their latest ADS-B offerings with promised low pricing to get interest in the market. Then the price magically goes up quite a bit when the product actually makes it to market. Right now $1500 isn't too bad for an ADS-B setup provided you can install it yourself and have a place to mount it. When it comes time for me to equip the Q-1 it may be a challenge to find a mounting location. Experimental owners have it a bit easier than certificated. Right now it looks like it could cost me close to $6000 to equip my Grumman Yankee.

Experimental aircraft should probably wait to see what the market brings closer to 2020 since they can be self-installed. I am waiting on both myself to see if any of the all-in-one transponder solutions get more reasonably priced.

Dan


From the RV-List
Price started at 699 then went to 799, and I just saw 869, Now up to $1049 as of 5/7/2015, $1149 as of 9-3-2015.
I think I'll wait to 2020.
Mike Q200 N3QP



12th Annual Alternative Engine Round-Up and Experimental Aircraft Fly-in

Patrick Panzera
 

Friends,


Saturday, September 26th is the big day.

Last year we moved our annual event to Southern California, to a beautiful non-towered airport that's easy to get to in French Valley - near Temecula.

The paved runway is wide and long for the fast-glass, and the airport is low-and-slow friendly- being the home airport of EAA Chapter 1279, known for building a beautiful, Corvair-powered Pietenpol.

The website has been updated with the most current information, and a plea for you to RSVP if you are planning to attend the casual dinner on Saturday night: http://www.contactmagazine.com/roundup.html


Thanks!

And I humbly apologize if you get this message more than once. It just means that you and I are on multiple email lists together.
  

Oh yeah! PLEASE forward this message to anyone you think might be interested in, especially email groups that are about homebuilt aircraft.

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Re: ADS-B

Mike Dwyer
 

From the RV-List
Price started at 699 then went to 799, and I just saw 869, Now up to $1049 as of 5/7/2015, $1149 as of 9-3-2015.
I think I'll wait to 2020.
Mike Q200 N3QP




On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:18 AM, dav8or@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Hi Mike,

Where did you find it for $700? I am assuming we are talking about the ADS600-EXP. On the Navworx site the unit itself is $1149.00. Then you have to add at a minimum the TransMonSPE option unless you already happen to have one of the few new transponders that will interface with the ADS-B unit. With that, the GPS and UAT antennas the setup prices out at more than $1500.

I have been watching this for a while as I have one experimental and one certificated plane to equip. It looks like I will be doing something different for each as the experimental may have lower cost options. I am waiting for a couple more years to see what happens. I am curious to see if Google and others will follow through on their claims of bringing a less expensive stand alone option to market.

Dan LaFon
Q-1  partially constructed
Avid Flyer Model C Speedwing
Grumman AA-1 Yankee   



That is the winner at $700.  Uses your existing (old) transponder, weighs a pound.  Looks like you need to install a GPS antenna and a transponder type antenna.   It outputs a wifi signal to your tablet to display the traffic.  I use an Android tablet with AVARE software.  AVARE is free Android software for navigation, flight planning, has airport facility directories, IFR charts...  Really, it's free but most people make a donation to the developers.  


Now will it drop in price as we approach 2020?  I'm going to hold out a bit.  Thanks Jerry for the info.
Mike Dwyer Q200 N3QP

Q200 Website: Mike Dwyer's Q200 Site
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Re: ADS-B

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Bruce,  after some repentance we will joyfully reinstate your status among the Q-drivers. (Whatever that status was).



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-------- Original message --------
From: "'jcrain2@...' jcrain2@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...>
Date: 09/03/2015 1:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] ADS-B

 

Glass is sexy!  I still have the Tri Q200 and am trying to get time to top overhaul the cylinders.  Will take some time.  Perhaps this winter.
Bruce

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "logistics_engineering@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...>
To: <Q-LIST@...>
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] ADS-B
Date: 02 Sep 2015 17:13:30 -0700

 

Thanks to you Guys,

I knew you had some ADS-B answers!

I am old school and have a mounted Garmin 296 (can switch to a 796 if necessary) both of which I think are WAAS capable. Sam Kittle suggested I call Garmin and discuss the possibilities with them. I will let you all know what they say.

P.S. I uploaded an interesting pix of N46JP ( to photos) after arriving back in the Bay Area last Sunday evening. Take a look. It's a little different perspective and might be suitable for desktop background if some one was so inclined. The dream is still alive! Don't tell Bruce though, he may want to sell that tin can and get back in  glass. 

Jim Patillo
N46JP Q200 Lovin' it!

 

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Re: ADS-B

Bruce Crain
 


Re: ADS-B

Dan L
 

Hi Mike,

Where did you find it for $700? I am assuming we are talking about the ADS600-EXP. On the Navworx site the unit itself is $1149.00. Then you have to add at a minimum the TransMonSPE option unless you already happen to have one of the few new transponders that will interface with the ADS-B unit. With that, the GPS and UAT antennas the setup prices out at more than $1500.

I have been watching this for a while as I have one experimental and one certificated plane to equip. It looks like I will be doing something different for each as the experimental may have lower cost options. I am waiting for a couple more years to see what happens. I am curious to see if Google and others will follow through on their claims of bringing a less expensive stand alone option to market.

Dan LaFon
Q-1  partially constructed
Avid Flyer Model C Speedwing
Grumman AA-1 Yankee   



That is the winner at $700.  Uses your existing (old) transponder, weighs a pound.  Looks like you need to install a GPS antenna and a transponder type antenna.   It outputs a wifi signal to your tablet to display the traffic.  I use an Android tablet with AVARE software.  AVARE is free Android software for navigation, flight planning, has airport facility directories, IFR charts...  Really, it's free but most people make a donation to the developers.  

Now will it drop in price as we approach 2020?  I'm going to hold out a bit.  Thanks Jerry for the info.
Mike Dwyer Q200 N3QP

Q200 Website: Mike Dwyer's Q200 Site

 


Re: ADS-B

Larry Severson
 

What type of glasses are needed to see the 3D?

 

Larry Severson

18242 Peters Ct

Fountain Valley, CA  92708

(714) 968-9852

 

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 2:47 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] ADS-B

 

 

That is the winner at $700.  Uses your existing (old) transponder, weighs a pound.  Looks like you need to install a GPS antenna and a transponder type antenna.   It outputs a wifi signal to your tablet to display the traffic.  I use an Android tablet with AVARE software.  AVARE is free Android software for navigation, flight planning, has airport facility directories, IFR charts...  Really, it's free but most people make a donation to the developers.  

 

Now will it drop in price as we approach 2020?  I'm going to hold out a bit.  Thanks Jerry for the info.


Mike Dwyer Q200 N3QP

 

Q200 Website: http://q200.eu.pn/

 




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Re: ADS-B

Jim Patillo
 

Thanks to you Guys,

I knew you had some ADS-B answers!

I am old school and have a mounted Garmin 296 (can switch to a 796 if necessary) both of which I think are WAAS capable. Sam Kittle suggested I call Garmin and discuss the possibilities with them. I will let you all know what they say.

P.S. I uploaded an interesting pix of N46JP ( to photos) after arriving back in the Bay Area last Sunday evening. Take a look. It's a little different perspective and might be suitable for desktop background if some one was so inclined. The dream is still alive! Don't tell Bruce though, he may want to sell that tin can and get back in  glass. 

Jim Patillo
N46JP Q200 Lovin' it!


Re: ADS-B

Mike Dwyer
 

That is the winner at $700.  Uses your existing (old) transponder, weighs a pound.  Looks like you need to install a GPS antenna and a transponder type antenna.   It outputs a wifi signal to your tablet to display the traffic.  I use an Android tablet with AVARE software.  AVARE is free Android software for navigation, flight planning, has airport facility directories, IFR charts...  Really, it's free but most people make a donation to the developers.  

Now will it drop in price as we approach 2020?  I'm going to hold out a bit.  Thanks Jerry for the info.

Mike Dwyer Q200 N3QP

Q200 Website: http://q200.eu.pn/

 


Re: ADS-B

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Checkout Navworx ADS600-EXP.

 

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2015 11:43 PM
To: q-list@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] ADS-B

 

 

Just checking.

Who has complied with the ADS-B In - Out requirement for your Q? Any idea how to do it without spending a boatload of money?

Jim Patillo

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Re: Recommended Epoxy System?

Alvaro Domenighi
 

Jay, 

I work at 3M with the qualification of Arospace adhesives to different OEMs. One of the main points on the qualification of a new adhesive is the mechanicals (in different temperatures if necessary), if you have a Technical Data Sheet of the original adhesive I can search for a compatible adhesive. I want believe that one of the main factors will be overlap shear for fiberglass bonding.


On Monday, August 31, 2015, jay@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Thanks guys for all the info on Epoxy's, very helpful.

Cheers,
Jay Scheevel


Re: Recommended Epoxy System?

Larry Severson
 

One error listed the Tg (delinking temp) of EZ Poxy as being 155 degrees. That is the ultimate Tg, not the initial Tg which is less than 40 degrees above the temperature at which the epoxy cured. Post curing raises the Tg faster than time, which takes months of exposure to elevated temps. That is why white paint is used. It only raises the underlying epoxy 10 degrees in sunlight.

 

Larry Severson

18242 Peters Ct

Fountain Valley, CA  92708

(714) 968-9852

 

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:20 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Re: Recommended Epoxy System?

 

 

Thanks guys for all the info on Epoxy's, very helpful.

Cheers,
Jay Scheevel



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