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Re: Q1 wheels and brake system options

David J. Gall
 

Henry,

What engine and prop are you and Marc using on your Quickie?


Re: Q1 wheels and brake system options

Terry Crouch
 

The stock Quickie brakes are very poor at best. With the large tire and wheel option they added a single lever to gain some mechanical advantage, they got a little better.
  When I built my Quickie the flat steel bar that rubs on the tire was replaced with a larger one that fits the contour of the tire so the surface area rubbing on the tires is many times larger.
  My brakes are adequate, if it is raining I won't be doing any fast stops.
 
     Terry Crouch
     Quickie N14TC
 

In a message dated 11/14/2015 2:00:32 P.M. Central Standard Time, Q-LIST@... writes:
 

Dear Quickheads,

I'm finishing up a mostly-complete Q1 project (actually Marc Zeitlin
is doing most of the work) and am interested in the group's opinions
on the suitability of the Q1 plans brake system. It seems a bit
dubious, but does it tend to work well enough in practice? Has anyone
fitted a hydraulic system or any other variant? Do larger wheels ever
make sense?

Thanks!
Henry Hallam
VariEze N27GM OAK
Quick-E N??? TSP


Re: Q

JMasal@...
 

 
 
 
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Sanjay... I'm rattling around Wixom... email me: jmasal@...
 
j.
 
 
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Re: Q1 wheels and brake system options

JMasal@...
 

Sanjay... I'm rattling around Wixom... email me: jmasal@...
 
j.
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: 'Robert and Deb Bounds' rebounds@... [Q-LIST]
To: Q-LIST
Cc: Marc Zeitlin
Sent: Sat, Nov 14, 2015 3:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Q1 wheels and brake system options

 
Henry,
Some of the Q-1’s were modified to larger wheels and it makes them operable on grass which is a good thing in tail draggers.  The tire scrubber brakes are a joke.  I always said that they give you something to do while you’re waiting for the plane to slow down.  I would definitely upgrade your plane to bigger wheels with real brakes.
Bounds
(250 hrs in a Q-1)
 
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 12:24 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Q1 wheels and brake system options
 
 
Dear Quickheads,

I'm finishing up a mostly-complete Q1 project (actually Marc Zeitlin
is doing most of the work) and am interested in the group's opinions
on the suitability of the Q1 plans brake system. It seems a bit
dubious, but does it tend to work well enough in practice? Has anyone
fitted a hydraulic system or any other variant? Do larger wheels ever
make sense?

Thanks!
Henry Hallam
VariEze N27GM OAK
Quick-E N??? TSP


Re: Q1 wheels and brake system options

Robert Bounds
 

Henry,
Some of the Q-1’s were modified to larger wheels and it makes them operable on grass which is a good thing in tail draggers.  The tire scrubber brakes are a joke.  I always said that they give you something to do while you’re waiting for the plane to slow down.  I would definitely upgrade your plane to bigger wheels with real brakes.
Bounds
(250 hrs in a Q-1)
 

Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 12:24 PM
Subject: [Q-LIST] Q1 wheels and brake system options
 
 

Dear Quickheads,

I'm finishing up a mostly-complete Q1 project (actually Marc Zeitlin
is doing most of the work) and am interested in the group's opinions
on the suitability of the Q1 plans brake system. It seems a bit
dubious, but does it tend to work well enough in practice? Has anyone
fitted a hydraulic system or any other variant? Do larger wheels ever
make sense?

Thanks!
Henry Hallam
VariEze N27GM OAK
Quick-E N??? TSP


Q1 wheels and brake system options

Henry Hallam
 

Dear Quickheads,


I'm finishing up a mostly-complete Q1 project (actually Marc Zeitlin
is doing most of the work) and am interested in the group's opinions
on the suitability of the Q1 plans brake system. It seems a bit
dubious, but does it tend to work well enough in practice? Has anyone
fitted a hydraulic system or any other variant? Do larger wheels ever
make sense?


Thanks!
Henry Hallam
VariEze N27GM OAK
Quick-E N??? TSP


Re: Q1/QUICKIE

Rich Gillen
 

 
Well that's nice to hear Richard, that there going to be reproduced, and maybe even upgraded. Is there any plans to maybe Scale up the Q1/Quickie to fit more People in the World, maybe even allow for more Engines to be used?
 
Burt Rutan, finally got it right, with the Long Ez, he designed it for a 6'-6" - 350lb Pilot, then 95% of the World would fit in it, not 35% like most Kitplanes are designed for. Planes are for hauling People, and Bags/Luggage, from Point A to Point B, not make circles around the Airport. Carry enough Fuel for 3.0 - 3.5hrs of Flight, with a :30-:45 Reserve.
 
Just about all of the Rotax 2 Strokes, or there equalivent Size/Weight have been put on a Q1/Quickie, 377F, 447F, 503F, and a 583 Water Cooled, that I know of. Never seen, or heard of a Rotax 277F(26hp) being put on one, but it should work also. All of the Kawasaki 340/400/440/500/550, 2 Strokes should fit. All the Hirth 2 Strokes should fit.
 
Many of these old Rotax's, and many other Brands of 2 Strokes Engines used on Sleds, can be rebuilt today, to make even more HP. It takes 7cc to make 1hp at 6500rpms. So even an old Rotax 185UL, rated 9.4hp at  5000rpms, 185cc/7cc = 26.4hp at 6500rpms is possible today. Many of these old 2 Stroke motor's didn't use Tuned Pipes, and they used low compression 7.0cr - 9.6cr. A 2, or 3 Stage Tuned Pipe can add 25% more Power. Porting, and Polishing, a 2 Stroke can add 10% more HP. On a Stock Skidoo 377/380(36hp) with a 9.6cr, at 7000rpms, upgraded to a 380HO(48hp) with a 11.2cr bump at 7000rpms, made a 12hp Increase. With a newer 2-3 Stage Tuned Pipe for the 380HO, it made 57.26hp at 7000rpms on the Dyno. At 6500rpms it still made 52/53hp from 368.4cc.
 
Notice, (377/380) 368cc/7cc = 52.5hp. That was with just a Compression Bump 9.6cr to 11.2cr, and with a better Tuned Pipe designed for it!
 
Rotax Rick's, 670's is Dyno rated at 92hp at 6400rpms with just his Tuned Pipe, with NO Flat Spots. 669cc/7cc = 95.5hp is possible at 6500rpms. 670s, as do all water cooled Rotax's, use a 11.5cr stock.
 
Simonini, has a 44hp/48hp/54hp 2 Stroke Singles out today for Airplanes. They are Water Cooled with a Belt Drive.
 
The 1/2 VW's, 042/084's, Subaru's EA71/81/82's, are popular with the 4 Stroke crowd. There are some other small 4 Strokes that may fit.
 
Rich
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Re: Q1/Quickie

Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:14 am (PST) . Posted by:

fastlittleairplanes

We will be offering a complete metal package kit for the Q1 and Q2 but it will not be available till the first week of February. We are still in the process of getting the fab and machine shop up and going. We are also in the process of selling off all projects we own as a company that are not Q's or Dragonfly's so we can make space to start kit production at our home field. Jim don't worry we are not planning to try and make a living on building kits it will be just a fraction of what we do. Our main source of work comes from aircraft restoration services and we build custom race engines. The machine shop continues to grow and diversify.

Richard
Fast Little Airplanes


Barnstormers: 2005 QUICKE Q2 FULL PART OUT • $500 • FOR SALE CHEAP •

John Loram <johnl@...>
 

2005 QUICKE Q2 FULL PART OUT • $500 • FOR SALE CHEAP  2005 Quickie Q2 Full part out or sold as whole lot. I flipped this aircraft in the grass and it sustained damage to the wings, prop, and canopy. Every individual part can be pulled quickly for sale or sold complete. No engine or panel. Both are for sale separately. It has hydraulic brakes and 5" rims and like new tires. ACK ELT. Please call/text at 570-417-2890 with any question about any part of the aircraft. Thank you. • Contact Adam P. Jacques, Owner - located Mountain Top, PA USA • Telephone: 570-417-2890 . • Posted November 11, 2015 

 

-john-


Re: Q1/Quickie

mylittlemgb@...
 

We will be offering a complete metal package kit for the Q1 and Q2 but it will not be available till the first week of February. We are still in the process of getting the fab and machine shop up and going. We are also in the process of selling off all projects we own as a company that are not Q's or Dragonfly's so we can make space to start kit production at our home field. Jim don't worry we are not planning to try and make a living on building kits it will be just a fraction of what we do. Our main source of work comes from aircraft restoration services and we build custom race engines. The machine shop continues to grow and diversify.

Richard
Fast Little Airplanes


Re: Q1/Quickie

Rich Gillen
 

 
Wasn't there also a guy in Wisconsin, I think his name was Larry Fitzgerald, that built these Q's many years ago. What ever happened to him, and his Molds, Parts, etc? Does this Richard with Fastlittleairplanes.com have these parts for sale now, or still in the design phase? Don't see any parts for sale on his web site, Fastlittleairplanes.com.
 
Been years since I have looked at the Q's. Does the Q1/Quickie have a Max Weight Limit for Engine? A Skidoo 583(97hp) is the heaviest, I have seen put on a Q1. Wouldn't a 1/2VW(40hp), Continental 042(26hp), 084(45hp), work? The Continental 084 would be my first choice for a small 45hp, 4 stroke, but I would add Fuel Injection to it, and do all the Engine Coatings to it also. Use one of those new light weight(2.5lbs) Lithium Battery's.
 
Rich
 
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Re: Q1/Quickie

Mon Nov 9, 2015 10:47 am (PST) . Posted by:

dav8or

I believe it was a guy named Richard with Fastlittleairplanes.com that was supposedly creating a metal parts kit for the Q-1. I am not sure if he is still planning to do that or not but I am guessing that when I am ready for the metal parts I will probably have to design/engineer them myself. Maybe I will be able to find one to measure. I am guessing the only difficult parts will be determining the distances from center for the aileron arms, elevator connection, and hinge point on the control stick. I think the rudder pedals should be relatively easy to build. Fortunately, I already have a canopy. I am looking for a 4 stroke option for power but have plenty of time before I will need it.

Dan



Re: Q1/Quickie

Richard Thomson
 


Re: Q1/Quickie

Dan L
 

I believe it was a guy named Richard with Fastlittleairplanes.com that was supposedly creating a metal parts kit for the Q-1. I am not sure if he is still planning to do that or not but I am guessing that when I am ready for the metal parts I will probably have to design/engineer them myself. Maybe I will be able to find one to measure. I am guessing the only difficult parts will be determining the distances from center for the aileron arms, elevator connection, and hinge point on the control stick. I think the rudder pedals should be relatively easy to build. Fortunately, I already have a canopy. I am looking for a 4 stroke option for power but have plenty of time before I will need it.

Dan


Armilite
Nov 7 3:01 PM
Jay:
 
I'll look again, some people were interested in the Q1/Quickie on Home Built Airplanes. I didn't see the Q1/Quickie Metal Parts, or other parts needed, not in the Drawings. Just the Plans, and Templates for the Wings.
 


Re: Flight Report - When Pigs Fly South

Mike Dwyer
 

It's here on Youtube
Fly Safe,
Mike

On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Sam Hoskins sam.hoskins@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Thanks Mike.

What's your procedure for balancing your tires?

Sam

On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Mike Dwyer q2pilot@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Lakeland Florida has hosted the "When Pigs Fly South" flyin for I believe 4 years now.  The first year I tried to fly in with the Q200 but it was total bedlam on the radio.  I circled for 30 minutes trying to get my N number heard but alas, no luck.  The second year was a washout - darn rain.  The third year we drove over and there were very little fly in traffic.  This year we decided to try flying in again.  I switched to the Lakeland Tower at 10am and heard nothing.  Wondering if I had the right frequency dialed in, yup.  I gave em a shout.  Bam, they come back with "forget the lake parker approach"  oops, guess there was some kind of procedure this year... He says keep my speed up and cleared for RWY 9.  I'm going 145K so I bump it up to 160K.  Nice landing and he turns me off into the BBQ Flyin without asking me where I want to go.  His ESP is working I guess!  I had to taxi thru the damp morning grass.  Those little Q wheels don't like this much and I need 50% power to keep moving forward.  I park next to a Long Eze and a Cherokee pulls in next to me.  

They have maybe 50 planes flown in so far (10am) and a P51, a couple of Stearmans, some warbirds, and some Russian planes.  Not bad.  Rows of classic cars and one cool truck that was welded together using old wrenches and saw blades.  He had a 110v generator on one side and  110v AC unit on the other with a 4" duct heading into the cab, what a hoot.

We walked thru the motorcycle line with the Harlies and BMW's.  Riding a motorcycle in FL is insane.  We have the worst drivers in the world. Flying Experimental airplanes is a couple orders of magnitude safer.

They call this Flyin the "When Pigs Fly South" cause they have 35 BBQ vendors show up and show their work off.  With all this pulled pork around we don't have to be concerned about muslim terrorists either!  Heck a gun show would be a good addition, I'll have to suggest that for next year.  A live band with country music topped the whole event off.

It was a really hot and humid day in FL.  Pushing 90F and 80%RH I'd say.  We left around 1pm and had a nice flight back.  VIS probably 40 miles.  

PS, my last few flights felt like the runway was full of pot holes.  I found the tires way out of balance and re-balanced the tires.  Wow, huge difference.  The runway is now like glass.  See my youtube video on how I balance the darn things.

Fly Safe,


Mike Dwyer Q200 N3QP

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF




Re: Flight Report - When Pigs Fly South

Sam Hoskins
 

Thanks Mike.

What's your procedure for balancing your tires?

Sam

On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Mike Dwyer q2pilot@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Lakeland Florida has hosted the "When Pigs Fly South" flyin for I believe 4 years now.  The first year I tried to fly in with the Q200 but it was total bedlam on the radio.  I circled for 30 minutes trying to get my N number heard but alas, no luck.  The second year was a washout - darn rain.  The third year we drove over and there were very little fly in traffic.  This year we decided to try flying in again.  I switched to the Lakeland Tower at 10am and heard nothing.  Wondering if I had the right frequency dialed in, yup.  I gave em a shout.  Bam, they come back with "forget the lake parker approach"  oops, guess there was some kind of procedure this year... He says keep my speed up and cleared for RWY 9.  I'm going 145K so I bump it up to 160K.  Nice landing and he turns me off into the BBQ Flyin without asking me where I want to go.  His ESP is working I guess!  I had to taxi thru the damp morning grass.  Those little Q wheels don't like this much and I need 50% power to keep moving forward.  I park next to a Long Eze and a Cherokee pulls in next to me.  

They have maybe 50 planes flown in so far (10am) and a P51, a couple of Stearmans, some warbirds, and some Russian planes.  Not bad.  Rows of classic cars and one cool truck that was welded together using old wrenches and saw blades.  He had a 110v generator on one side and  110v AC unit on the other with a 4" duct heading into the cab, what a hoot.

We walked thru the motorcycle line with the Harlies and BMW's.  Riding a motorcycle in FL is insane.  We have the worst drivers in the world. Flying Experimental airplanes is a couple orders of magnitude safer.

They call this Flyin the "When Pigs Fly South" cause they have 35 BBQ vendors show up and show their work off.  With all this pulled pork around we don't have to be concerned about muslim terrorists either!  Heck a gun show would be a good addition, I'll have to suggest that for next year.  A live band with country music topped the whole event off.

It was a really hot and humid day in FL.  Pushing 90F and 80%RH I'd say.  We left around 1pm and had a nice flight back.  VIS probably 40 miles.  

PS, my last few flights felt like the runway was full of pot holes.  I found the tires way out of balance and re-balanced the tires.  Wow, huge difference.  The runway is now like glass.  See my youtube video on how I balance the darn things.

Fly Safe,


Mike Dwyer Q200 N3QP

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF



Flight Report - When Pigs Fly South

Mike Dwyer
 

Lakeland Florida has hosted the "When Pigs Fly South" flyin for I believe 4 years now.  The first year I tried to fly in with the Q200 but it was total bedlam on the radio.  I circled for 30 minutes trying to get my N number heard but alas, no luck.  The second year was a washout - darn rain.  The third year we drove over and there were very little fly in traffic.  This year we decided to try flying in again.  I switched to the Lakeland Tower at 10am and heard nothing.  Wondering if I had the right frequency dialed in, yup.  I gave em a shout.  Bam, they come back with "forget the lake parker approach"  oops, guess there was some kind of procedure this year... He says keep my speed up and cleared for RWY 9.  I'm going 145K so I bump it up to 160K.  Nice landing and he turns me off into the BBQ Flyin without asking me where I want to go.  His ESP is working I guess!  I had to taxi thru the damp morning grass.  Those little Q wheels don't like this much and I need 50% power to keep moving forward.  I park next to a Long Eze and a Cherokee pulls in next to me.  

They have maybe 50 planes flown in so far (10am) and a P51, a couple of Stearmans, some warbirds, and some Russian planes.  Not bad.  Rows of classic cars and one cool truck that was welded together using old wrenches and saw blades.  He had a 110v generator on one side and  110v AC unit on the other with a 4" duct heading into the cab, what a hoot.

We walked thru the motorcycle line with the Harlies and BMW's.  Riding a motorcycle in FL is insane.  We have the worst drivers in the world. Flying Experimental airplanes is a couple orders of magnitude safer.

They call this Flyin the "When Pigs Fly South" cause they have 35 BBQ vendors show up and show their work off.  With all this pulled pork around we don't have to be concerned about muslim terrorists either!  Heck a gun show would be a good addition, I'll have to suggest that for next year.  A live band with country music topped the whole event off.

It was a really hot and humid day in FL.  Pushing 90F and 80%RH I'd say.  We left around 1pm and had a nice flight back.  VIS probably 40 miles.  

PS, my last few flights felt like the runway was full of pot holes.  I found the tires way out of balance and re-balanced the tires.  Wow, huge difference.  The runway is now like glass.  See my youtube video on how I balance the darn things.

Fly Safe,


Mike Dwyer Q200 N3QP

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


Re: Q1/Quickie

Rich Gillen
 

Jay:
 
I'll look again, some people were interested in the Q1/Quickie on Home Built Airplanes. I didn't see the Q1/Quickie Metal Parts, or other parts needed, not in the Drawings. Just the Plans, and Templates for the Wings.
 
There is CAD Drawing stuff for the Q2/Q200 Metal Parts. But you also need the (4) Fusealodge Shells also. Last I knew, no one has reproduced them either.
 
There was a fellow who was going to reproduce the Q2/Q200, but I haven't seen him post much on here, or any where else for that matter, like on Barnstormers, or Home Built Airplanes, or ebay, etc. People can't Buy what they can't see.
 
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Re: Q1/Quickie

Fri Nov 6, 2015 8:19 am (PST) . Posted by:

jay_scheevel

I think Dan has all of these drawings, descriptions, etc. in his Ultimate Quickie Package:

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Re: Q1/Quickie

Rich Gillen
 

Thanks Bill. I knew it was something like that. Never needed a canopie made myself, I remembered reading about him from Kitplanes many years ago. I thought the Q's were listed in the Article about him. These few suppliers of Q parts, should be listed on the QBA web site. Digital Camera's have been around since at least 1997. These few parts not in the plans should have been documented by now.
 
Rich
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Re: Q1/Quickie

Fri Nov 6, 2015 7:53 am (PST) . Posted by:

"Bill Allen" billallen123

yes, www.*toddscanopies* .com near Ft
Lauderdale, FL

Bill Allen
LongEz160 N99BA FD51
CZ4 G-BYLZ EGBJ
VE N2CR FD51


Re: Q1/Quickie

Jay Scheevel
 

I think Dan has all of these drawings, descriptions, etc. in his Ultimate Quickie Package:

Ultimate Quickie Information Package + BONUS

 


Re: Q1/Quickie

Bill Allen
 

yes,  www.toddscanopies.com  near Ft Lauderdale, FL

Bill Allen
LongEz160 N99BA FD51
CZ4 G-BYLZ EGBJ
VE N2CR FD51

On 6 November 2015 at 12:48, Armilite@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

 
I don't see a big problem with the FWF part. There are plenty of Engines on the market today to choose from.
 
You mean in all these years, this group has been around, nobody has photographed these few parts not in the plans, and maybe even drawn them into simple 2D, or 3D CAD, these few parts needed, not in the plans?
 
It sounds like some parts could be just described(Spec's) with a simple digital photo, some parts maybe just bought off the shelf from Aircraft Spruce, or some other source's.
 
Are we just going to let these planes, Q1/Quickie, Dragonfly, etc., just die for our future generations to come?
 
Wasn't there a place, that made Canopy's for all the Q's, Todd's or something like that?
 
Rich
 
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Thu Nov 5, 2015 7:39 am (PST) . Posted by:

davidjgall

Almost all of the metal parts are not documented in the plans. There was a sheet of 1/8" aluminum and some patterns for the builder to make parts from it, but all steel parts and all welded assemblies were undocumented. Also, aileron/elevator steel and aluminum tubings and spacers were not well documented even though some dimensions were listed for some of those parts. There's also a piece of 1/2" phenolic that had 4 or 5 precision holes reamed at the factory; there's no callout for those holes' diameters. And, of course, firewall forward, you'll be the designer.... :) Oh, and canopy dimensions!




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Re: Q1/Quickie

Rich Gillen
 

 
I don't see a big problem with the FWF part. There are plenty of Engines on the market today to choose from.
 
You mean in all these years, this group has been around, nobody has photographed these few parts not in the plans, and maybe even drawn them into simple 2D, or 3D CAD, these few parts needed, not in the plans?
 
It sounds like some parts could be just described(Spec's) with a simple digital photo, some parts maybe just bought off the shelf from Aircraft Spruce, or some other source's.
 
Are we just going to let these planes, Q1/Quickie, Dragonfly, etc., just die for our future generations to come?
 
Wasn't there a place, that made Canopy's for all the Q's, Todd's or something like that?
 
Rich
 
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Thu Nov 5, 2015 7:39 am (PST) . Posted by:

davidjgall

Almost all of the metal parts are not documented in the plans. There was a sheet of 1/8" aluminum and some patterns for the builder to make parts from it, but all steel parts and all welded assemblies were undocumented. Also, aileron/elevator steel and aluminum tubings and spacers were not well documented even though some dimensions were listed for some of those parts. There's also a piece of 1/2" phenolic that had 4 or 5 precision holes reamed at the factory; there's no callout for those holes' diameters. And, of course, firewall forward, you'll be the designer.... :) Oh, and canopy dimensions!

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