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Re: Call to John Forde

MATT HUGHES
 

John,

Sure. I have a 1/2vw 32hp engine. I want to swap the onan out, but I rebuilt the onan with all new upgraded parts so it's a shame. I wanted to keep it original but..... a little more speed would be nice.

Merry Christmas


Re: Weight of Canard and Wing

Sam Hoskins
 

Jay, what is your current EW?

Sam

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On Dec 23, 2016 12:58 PM, "jay@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Here are my weights: Canard only with slot cores installed, weighed prior to installing on the airframe was 70 pounds. My wing  with trailing edges and slot cores, prior to installation was 37 pounds.

I keep revising my W&B in a spreadsheet as I add components to the airframe.  I have measured weight on the three wheels maybe 15 times since installing the gear legs several years ago. These weighings are done with or without any of the 32 individual sub-components that I treat as separate in my spreadsheet. I tweak any of the then-installed components after each weighing to match the spreadsheet weight and moment to the actual weight measured on the wheels. In this way I allocate additional weight to individual installed components until it matches each weighing. Some of this extra weight gets lumped as wing or canard including the mounting glass, fillets, fairings, elevators, ailerons, including elevator and aileron supports, torque tubes, control horns, mass-balance counterweights, nuts, bolts, etc.  At this time, with my plane  nearly finished, my spreadsheet shows the "canard" at 95 pounds, and the "main wing" at 47 pounds. So I have factored an additional 25 pounds to the canard and 10 pounds to the main wing, as installed.

By the way, my tail section is now complete and final painted. I ask people to guess the weight. The lowest guess has been 85 pounds. They are surprised when I tell them it weighs in at 32 pounds.


Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building 


Re: Weight of Canard and Wing

Sam Hoskins
 

Not sure and I'm not near any records, but in the latest go-around for an LS canard, slot cores installed, no elevator or wheel pants, 27 pounds comes to mind.

Sam

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On Dec 23, 2016 9:04 AM, "mylittlemgb@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Well we are heading to the finish now and I we would like to see if we are in the window for weights. Our process for the canard and wing should have us lighter then what could be built by hand layup. So if you know the weight of your canard or wing we would love to know.

Richard
Fast Little Airplanes


Re: Weight of Canard and Wing

mylittlemgb@...
 

Thank you Jay,

Out of curiosity since you have the Camit engine are you having to move the battery box to the tail cone for CG? I didn't know what kind of weight gain you would get with the Camit upgrades.


Re: Weight of Canard and Wing

Jerry Marstall
 

Mine must be lighter than air because they are floating in air when I fly.  Put me down for "0".

On Dec 23, 2016 10:04 AM, "mylittlemgb@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Well we are heading to the finish now and I we would like to see if we are in the window for weights. Our process for the canard and wing should have us lighter then what could be built by hand layup. So if you know the weight of your canard or wing we would love to know.

Richard
Fast Little Airplanes



Re: Weight of Canard and Wing

Jay Scheevel
 

Here are my weights: Canard only with slot cores installed, weighed prior to installing on the airframe was 70 pounds. My wing  with trailing edges and slot cores, prior to installation was 37 pounds.

I keep revising my W&B in a spreadsheet as I add components to the airframe.  I have measured weight on the three wheels maybe 15 times since installing the gear legs several years ago. These weighings are done with or without any of the 32 individual sub-components that I treat as separate in my spreadsheet. I tweak any of the then-installed components after each weighing to match the spreadsheet weight and moment to the actual weight measured on the wheels. In this way I allocate additional weight to individual installed components until it matches each weighing. Some of this extra weight gets lumped as wing or canard including the mounting glass, fillets, fairings, elevators, ailerons, including elevator and aileron supports, torque tubes, control horns, mass-balance counterweights, nuts, bolts, etc.  At this time, with my plane  nearly finished, my spreadsheet shows the "canard" at 95 pounds, and the "main wing" at 47 pounds. So I have factored an additional 25 pounds to the canard and 10 pounds to the main wing, as installed.

By the way, my tail section is now complete and final painted. I ask people to guess the weight. The lowest guess has been 85 pounds. They are surprised when I tell them it weighs in at 32 pounds.


Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building 


Re: Weight of Canard and Wing

mylittlemgb@...
 

Any and all info is good for us. So yes please.


Re: Weight of Canard and Wing

Martin Skiby
 

Richard,  I have an LS canard and Wadlow main wing that do not yet have the control surfaces on them.  Would this help or are you looking for a weight of them completed and ready to mount?

Martin


Weight of Canard and Wing

mylittlemgb@...
 

Well we are heading to the finish now and I we would like to see if we are in the window for weights. Our process for the canard and wing should have us lighter then what could be built by hand layup. So if you know the weight of your canard or wing we would love to know.

Richard
Fast Little Airplanes


Call to John Forde

John Forde <johnforde@...>
 

Hey Matt,

I found your email in my junk folder.

I am eager to lear more about your Q!, but very busy for a while.

Let’s talk after the Holidays.

Thanks

Best wishes,

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Re: Noisy Wheels/Brakes and weight and balance

MATT HUGHES
 

This is not related to the topic...sorry in advance.
Calvin, I'm flying a q1 out of olds/didsbury. I live in Cochrane, would like too see your bird.


FW: OLD 666. - For plane buffs.

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

I know this is “off list” but I think we should be reminded about what the “Greatest Generation” of aviators was made of.

Jerry

 

Subject: FW: OLD 666. - For plane buffs.

 

 

 

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On Wednesday, December 14, 2016 9:50 AM, Jeff:

 

Good story.  They were lucky that those Jap pilots were such bad shooters.

 

 



 

 

 


 

 

 

 

Subject: OLD 666.

 

  

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Re: Save the Date Jan 7th

Martin Skiby
 

Thanks Jay,  The TriQ is flying well and we have a Q200 that is getting close to going.  The BBQ will be a great event and anyone can let me know at mskiby at bak.rr.com if they are coming.

Lets hope that makes it.


Re: Save the Date Jan 7th

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Martin,

Just to let you know that Yahoo groups skims off the domain name for e-mail addresses that are included in your notes (ostensibly to preserve your privacy)

If you want to leave you e-mail address, just type it in kind of like this: me at domainname.com. Then it will be posted.

Cheers,
Jay


Re: Save the Date Jan 7th

Martin Skiby
 

The BBQ will be at KMIT on Saturday January 7th at 1pm.  We will have burgers and other stuff.  I will make sure we have plenty of food and side dishes for my friends flying in.  Please let me know if you can make it.

Look for the yellow A26 at the field.  There is ample parking in that area and you will see our two Q200s there also.  I have confirmation from at least two folks that are coming.  Jim P.  I certainly hope to see you and the group.

Again all are welcome in anything you want to fly in.  I look forward to meeting you all and talking Quickies and Dragonflies and stuff!!!!

Thanks all.

You can let me know you are coming VIA mskiby@...


Re: Save the Date Jan 7th

Martin Skiby
 

Excellent,  I will have a flyer very soon.


Re: Save the Date Jan 7th

Randy Lewis
 

Martin post or send any info you have on this. I may fly over for a visit 

Randy
Dragonfly MKIII
KCMA


Re: Save the Date Jan 7th

Martin Skiby
 

Martin Skiby,

Located at KMIT.



Re: Tires

Martin Skiby
 

Thank you.  Will probably purchase new at this point as the ones we have are out of round from sitting so long.



Re: Tires

Martin Skiby
 

Yep those are what I use on the TriQ,  The Q200 that we got has the 500X5 so was just was going to go with those for now.  May change later.

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