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Re: Fire extinguisher location

Paul Fisher
 

I understand Mike.  I am HAPPY to say that I have carried a fire extinguisher for 27 years and have never needed it!!  I hope for that trend to continue.

Seriously, I figured the best use was on the ground in case of a fire during engine start.  I doubt it would be much use in flight - but I would still try!!

Paul

On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:30 AM, Mike Dwyer q2pilot@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

So a question about fire extinguishers.  

Obviously Halon seems to be a good choice.  The others blow out powder or C02.  Don't want the powder all over everything.  The Halon works by displacing the oxygen.  When I'm flying I got the air vents wide open and a good breeze blowing through.  I don't see Halon working in the cockpit.  And how could you test to see if it would work?

In flight, I see the highest risk of fire under the cowl.  Anything that could put out an engine fire?  I do know how to build an electronic fire detector but haven't done that either...

Sorry to say I haven't had an extinguisher for 30 years in the Q... 

Mike Dwyer 
Q200 N3QP



On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Paul Fisher rv7a.n18pf@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Mine is mounted on the seat back bulkhead between the seats.  I found this picture online: https://goo.gl/images/e244Fu

Paul A. Fisher
Q-200 N17PF

On May 2, 2017 9:06 AM, "mskiby@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I feel that having a good fire extinguisher is mandatory equipment for any plane.  With that said, we have a nice place for one in our TriQ in the area over the main wing.  In the Q200 we just got flying it seems that the canopy brace partially covers the opening so you would not be able to pull out the extinguisher without opening the canopy.  So my question is, where have others found is a good place to tuck a fire extinguisher.  I have the smallest halon type I can find for both planes, which I feel is the minimum.  It would be a chore to change the opening over the wing, but that is what we will do if necessary.


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Re: Fire extinguisher location

Mike Dwyer
 

So a question about fire extinguishers.  

Obviously Halon seems to be a good choice.  The others blow out powder or C02.  Don't want the powder all over everything.  The Halon works by displacing the oxygen.  When I'm flying I got the air vents wide open and a good breeze blowing through.  I don't see Halon working in the cockpit.  And how could you test to see if it would work?

In flight, I see the highest risk of fire under the cowl.  Anything that could put out an engine fire?  I do know how to build an electronic fire detector but haven't done that either...

Sorry to say I haven't had an extinguisher for 30 years in the Q... 

Mike Dwyer 
Q200 N3QP



On Tue, May 2, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Paul Fisher rv7a.n18pf@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Mine is mounted on the seat back bulkhead between the seats.  I found this picture online: https://goo.gl/images/e244Fu

Paul A. Fisher
Q-200 N17PF

On May 2, 2017 9:06 AM, "mskiby@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I feel that having a good fire extinguisher is mandatory equipment for any plane.  With that said, we have a nice place for one in our TriQ in the area over the main wing.  In the Q200 we just got flying it seems that the canopy brace partially covers the opening so you would not be able to pull out the extinguisher without opening the canopy.  So my question is, where have others found is a good place to tuck a fire extinguisher.  I have the smallest halon type I can find for both planes, which I feel is the minimum.  It would be a chore to change the opening over the wing, but that is what we will do if necessary.


Thank you all.



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Re: Engine installation

Richard Kaczmarek 3RD
 

UL offers their engine weights with oil and all accessories (ECU, fuel pumps and so on) total weight comes in at 168lbs.

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 10:11 PM, 'Murry I. Rozansky' MIRCO@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Might be total weight FWF? The UL engine weight looks like bare and dry. Really pinning down engine weights is difficult if you are not there to see what is included.
Murry
 
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According to their website, it's only 170 lbs.

http://revmasteraviation.com/

Pat
 
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 7:48 AM, 'jcrain2@...' jcrain2@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 
Did I get it wrong?  It's  been years since I looked into that subject.  What is  your take Pat?
Bruce

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Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Engine installation
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 06:47:29 -0700

 

Hi Bruce, 
 
I'm just wondering how you came up with 207 lbs for the Revmaster?
 
Thanks!
 
Pat
 
 
On Apr 18, 2017 8:04 PM, "'jcrain2@...' jcrain2@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

 

With an engine that weighs only 167 lbs and putting out 107 hp you should have a rocket!  You're a good 75 lbs lighter than the Continental 0200 and 40 lbs lighter than the Revmaster!  If the rest of the air frame is light and straight.  You might be able to put the battery next to the PAX right calf if the weight and balance works out.  Don't the UL engines pick up the horse power by upping the rpm a bit say 2700 to 3000?  Jay Scheevel what say you about the engine center line?  Is there a good reason for that?  The float planes don't seem to be much interested in engine center line (see Sea Wind Aircraft).  If you end up cruising about 180 mph you could open up something new and exciting for the Quickie!
Got our eyes on you Bro!
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Re: Engine installation

Richard Kaczmarek 3RD
 

I was probably misunderstood at SNF. The placement for the engine mount moves down 1 3/8" at the top to get the UL engine crank on the trust line for the Q. I will post a picture of the firewall dwg when I get back into our shop in WV this week. As far as CG the UL comes in at about 8lbs lighter then the 2100D VW so there should be no issues there. UL offers all the info on line for the engine mount dimension needed and the original Q firewall templets does offer the thrust line location. Balancing the controls is a must do because of the speed increase with the new engine. 

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Re: Fire extinguisher location

Martin Skiby
 

That is what I was thinking as well.  You verified it.

Thanks


Re: Engine installation

Martin Skiby
 

I would not be concerned at all about the placement for the UL.  Personally I would place the centerline exactly where the 0200 is and give it a run.  Check the weight and balance carefully and go.  I have done research on the UL and find it will be a great option for the Q2/200.  You will need to counter balance all your control surfaces and follow the procedures for the Q200 as you will basically have one of those.  Actually a Q-260!!.  Great choice and good luck with the install.  Let me know if I can help at all.

We have a Q200 and a TriQ200 both in the air.  You could also start with an 0200 prop or something very close.  We are running our 0200's in the 2800 RPM range for high speed which is a little less than the UL will want.  Biggest issue is to make sure you have adequate static RPM for the first flight to get off the ground.  I would love to chat more if you like.

Sincerely,


Re: Fire extinguisher location

Paul Fisher
 

Mine is mounted on the seat back bulkhead between the seats.  I found this picture online: https://goo.gl/images/e244Fu

Paul A. Fisher
Q-200 N17PF

On May 2, 2017 9:06 AM, "mskiby@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I feel that having a good fire extinguisher is mandatory equipment for any plane.  With that said, we have a nice place for one in our TriQ in the area over the main wing.  In the Q200 we just got flying it seems that the canopy brace partially covers the opening so you would not be able to pull out the extinguisher without opening the canopy.  So my question is, where have others found is a good place to tuck a fire extinguisher.  I have the smallest halon type I can find for both planes, which I feel is the minimum.  It would be a chore to change the opening over the wing, but that is what we will do if necessary.


Thank you all.


Fire extinguisher location

Martin Skiby
 

I feel that having a good fire extinguisher is mandatory equipment for any plane.  With that said, we have a nice place for one in our TriQ in the area over the main wing.  In the Q200 we just got flying it seems that the canopy brace partially covers the opening so you would not be able to pull out the extinguisher without opening the canopy.  So my question is, where have others found is a good place to tuck a fire extinguisher.  I have the smallest halon type I can find for both planes, which I feel is the minimum.  It would be a chore to change the opening over the wing, but that is what we will do if necessary.


Thank you all.


Re: Ready for your help, Kevin

Kevin Boddicker
 

Jerry's smokin too.


On Apr 23, 2017, at 7:28 PM, Jerry Marstall jnmarstall@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Kevin asked me to respond for him. "YES! I'll even bring my own sandpaper".



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Date: 4/23/17 1:18 PM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: [Q-LIST] Ready for your help, Kevin [1 Attachment]

 

Hey Kevin B,

I am starting to fill and sand the fuselage and wings. Should I prepare the guest bedroom for your visit so you can help me? 


Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building



Re: Ready for your help, Kevin

Kevin Boddicker
 

I've been turkey hunting. Jay has been partaking of the legal herb in Colorado!!!


On Apr 23, 2017, at 7:28 PM, Jerry Marstall jnmarstall@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Kevin asked me to respond for him. "YES! I'll even bring my own sandpaper".



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
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Date: 4/23/17 1:18 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Ready for your help, Kevin [1 Attachment]

 

Hey Kevin B,

I am starting to fill and sand the fuselage and wings. Should I prepare the guest bedroom for your visit so you can help me? 


Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building



Re: Ready for your help, Kevin [1 Attachment]

Jay Scheevel
 

Thanks "Kevin"  :-)  Making progress, Jerry. Still looking good for completion this summer.

Cheers,
Jay


Re: Ready for your help, Kevin [1 Attachment]

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Kevin asked me to respond for him. "YES! I'll even bring my own sandpaper".



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "jay@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...>
Date: 4/23/17 1:18 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Ready for your help, Kevin [1 Attachment]

 

Hey Kevin B,

I am starting to fill and sand the fuselage and wings. Should I prepare the guest bedroom for your visit so you can help me? 


Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building



Ready for your help, Kevin

Jay Scheevel
 

Hey Kevin B,

I am starting to fill and sand the fuselage and wings. Should I prepare the guest bedroom for your visit so you can help me? 


Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building



[Dragonflylist] 2 quickies for sale

One Sky Dog
 

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Subject: [Dragonflylist] 2 quickies for sale
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For anyone interested in Quickie 1.  I have two Quickies, 1 is a record holder for class C.1. a/o , straight line distance 777.541 sm, april 9,1987, also 15/25 Km speed 146.19 mph, July 27, 1988. This plane was first owned by Norman E. Howell N17UQ with a Rotax 503 engin with new prop. The second is in uncertified but is in good condition , It was certified at one time , I have a rotary 40 hp engine set up for aircraft use. It is a XF 40 , manufactured by Woelfle Engineering, and a prop. I would be interested in talking to interested buyers. Phone 620-910-7139, Home phone 620-285-2310 , E-Mail  studemichael@...,   located Garfield Kansas       

 

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Re: Seen on DflyList: Quickie(s) for sale

agatgs@...
 

Michael,

I tried searching for DFlyList and have been unable to locate.

What dollar figures are you looking for?

Thanks, Tom Smith / agatgs@...


Re: Engine installation

Allan Farr
 

I have a Rotax 912 in my Titan Tornado.  The good thing about it is the ability to use an inflight adjustable prop, it would really suit a Q.




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Re: Engine installation

Patrick Panzera
 

Since the 2100D, Revmaster has lost some weight by ditching the heavy dual mags and going solid state. It also picked up a few ccs going to 2332. 

The prop flange has always been included in the weight of the Revmaster, so is the complete induction system and starter. 

There's not much to add, save oil, fuel, and 12 volts for the starter - and the engine is running. 

The only thing omitted is the exhaust, as with things like an engine mount, cowl, baffles, prop and spinner, those are all airframe specific and the weights will vary.

Pat

On Apr 19, 2017 7:45 PM, "'jcrain2@...' jcrain2@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Hey Pat,
170 seems a bit on the light side but then you factor in perhaps a prop flange and oil (I don't remember the number of quarts it holds.  It has been a lot of years since I dabbled) and maybe a few other aftermarket things it might add up.  I had a 2100D Revmaster way back when.
Bruce

---------- Original Message ----------
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To: Q-LIST <Q-LIST@...>
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Engine installation
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 18:25:08 -0700

 

According to their website, it's only 170 lbs.

http://revmasteraviation.com/

Pat

On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 7:48 AM, 'jcrain2@...' jcrain2@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

 

Did I get it wrong?  It's  been years since I looked into that subject.  What is  your take Pat?
Bruce

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To: Q-LIST <Q-LIST@...>
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Engine installation
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 06:47:29 -0700

 

 

Hi Bruce, 
 
I'm just wondering how you came up with 207 lbs for the Revmaster? 
 
Thanks! 
 
Pat


On Apr 18, 2017 8:04 PM, "'jcrain2@...' jcrain2@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

 

With an engine that weighs only 167 lbs and putting out 107 hp you should have a rocket!  You're a good 75 lbs lighter than the Continental 0200 and 40 lbs lighter than the Revmaster!  If the rest of the air frame is light and straight.  You might be able to put the battery next to the PAX right calf if the weight and balance works out.  Don't the UL engines pick up the horse power by upping the rpm a bit say 2700 to 3000?  Jay Scheevel what say you about the engine center line?  Is there a good reason for that?  The float planes don't seem to be much interested in engine center line (see Sea Wind Aircraft).  If you end up cruising about 180 mph you could open up something new and exciting for the Quickie!
Got our eyes on you Bro!
Bruce Crain
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Re: Engine installation

Bruce Crain
 


Re: Engine installation

Murry Rozansky
 

Might be total weight FWF? The UL engine weight looks like bare and dry. Really pinning down engine weights is difficult if you are not there to see what is included.
Murry
 

From: Patrick Panzera editor@... [Q-LIST]
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 6:25 PM
To: Q-LIST
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Engine installation
 
 

According to their website, it's only 170 lbs.

http://revmasteraviation.com/

Pat
 
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 7:48 AM, 'jcrain2@...' jcrain2@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 
Did I get it wrong?  It's  been years since I looked into that subject.  What is  your take Pat?
Bruce

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Patrick Panzera editor@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...>
To: Q-LIST <Q-LIST@...>
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Engine installation
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 06:47:29 -0700

 

Hi Bruce, 
 
I'm just wondering how you came up with 207 lbs for the Revmaster?
 
Thanks!
 
Pat
 
 
On Apr 18, 2017 8:04 PM, "'jcrain2@...' jcrain2@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

 

With an engine that weighs only 167 lbs and putting out 107 hp you should have a rocket!  You're a good 75 lbs lighter than the Continental 0200 and 40 lbs lighter than the Revmaster!  If the rest of the air frame is light and straight.  You might be able to put the battery next to the PAX right calf if the weight and balance works out.  Don't the UL engines pick up the horse power by upping the rpm a bit say 2700 to 3000?  Jay Scheevel what say you about the engine center line?  Is there a good reason for that?  The float planes don't seem to be much interested in engine center line (see Sea Wind Aircraft).  If you end up cruising about 180 mph you could open up something new and exciting for the Quickie!
Got our eyes on you Bro!
Bruce Crain
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