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M. Curcio Q200 Progress and Questions

Matthew Curcio
 

Hey all,

Some more questions / comments here -

  • I got new rubber mounted and balanced and was able to do some high speed taxiing last night. I held it at 75mph indicated for a good period.It's definitely a taildragger but I haven't been caught off guard by it and it doesn't seem difficult to control. I am excited to see what the Gall modifications will do to it! 


  • My CHT temps are no bueno on the ground. They will get up to high 300's during this taxi testing.. The PO had every baffle siliconed in place. I didn't do that on re-installation because it makes the engine hard to service (which I don't like) but I am wondering now if I need to go back and do that. Your thoughts?

  • The PO put a large pneumatic Scott tail wheel on there and the way the cable are connected I think I have similar steering authority as what the 6-pack tail cable mixer mod provides. I wanted to do this taxi testing to have a comparison point before doing the 6-pack mods. I can definitely see where the mixer and larger tail wheel assist with the ground control. While I already sort of have those features I want the redundancy if the tail spring breaks and the way my tailwheel is mounted makes it especially prone to that.


  • Toe brake mod - do you have any issues with clearance between the firewall and header tank? It seems like things are going to be really tight down there! As it is my foot touches the header tank with a full left rudder deflection and with full right rudder deflection I can feel the insulation on the firewall on my right toes. 


  • Jim P advised that he used a 4130 tube in lieu of the fiberglass tail spring rod. He indicated it has worked well for him and I would like to go this route as well but he didn't have a wall thickness for the tube he used. I tried sizing the 4130 tube based on the yield strength of the fiberglass and they just aren't comparable.  If any of you have that information, or if it isn't to difficult to unscrew your tailwheel to check. Please let me know. 

Thanks!


Matthew Curcio

734.693.6326



Oshkosh 2017 (flown vs. planned)

Kevin Sheely
 

The attached is my trip to Oshkosh last month and how the weather changed my route. The planned route was the same up and back. I was able to make the trip in one day each way.


Kevin (Q200, dragger 275 hours in 3 years and 1 month) Loving it!



Re: Field of Dreams Flyin - Sep 22-24

Matthew Curcio
 

David,


Thank you very much for the thorough explanation - I really appreciate it! I sighted the axles at empty weight and could see that there was 0° of toe and approximately 5.5° of negative camber. For the camber I slid a tight fitting rod into the axle shaft and used a smart level. At 1140lb (human ballast) it was at 7.3°. I jacked the wing and pulled the axle out from the inboard hole and tilted the tire until it just started to touch the outboard wall of the pant and that gave me 5.5° degrees of wiggle to play with. So that means I am 1.8° short. I think I can remove some of the material on the inboard shaft collar and make a longer outboard collar to help out some here but I am fairly confident I won't be able to get 7.3°. I'll probably end up fairly close to your 3/4° negative camber and 1° toe out consolation or perhaps more.


All,


CHT temperatures!? - where are you at during taxi?  I have noticed this thing likes to get hot on taxi. Is that normal or do I need to tighten up my baffling?


Side note - The tires looked very good on these after sitting for so long but initial taxi testing showed they are very out of round. I'm putting new ones on today so I can actually start taxi testing above a brisk walk.


As a general note It is kind of interesting of all the gentleman I have talked to each has a different opinion on what items actually matter out of the jim-bob six pack. My approach here is that I don't believe any of these items will hurt anything and most are inexpensive and not extraordinarily time consuming. Every single Quickie 2 pilot I have talked to raves about the flying qualities of the airplane but cautions about the ground handling. I think I'm okay with risking wasting a few hours now to gamble saving some grief down the road.



Matthew Curcio

734.693.6326





From: Q-LIST@... on behalf of David@... [Q-LIST]
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 8:00 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Field of Dreams Flyin - Sep 22-24
 
 

Matthew,


1° toe out is not "slight" but "moderate." With tires, think in terms of an aerodynamic surface deflection, then divide by three. So 1° toe out would be like 3° rudder deflection. You want to measure to an accuracy of 1/8° or less. For example, my 1984 Honda Civic front end alignment called for 0° camber and 1/4° toe out, both numbers expressed as plus or minus .02°, so you can see that our airplane eyeball engineering is way less precise than a typical sedan. 

The other thing you want is for the positive toe out at gross weight (worst case) to be numerically greater than the (absolute value of the) negative camber. If you load up to 1100 lbs. and find that your wheel pants limit you to 3/4° negative camber, then you'd want more than 3/4° toe out -- I'd suggest a full 1° toe out. But if your wheel pants allow you to get to 0° or positive camber at gross weight, then just a smidgen of toe out is needed, say, 1/4° degree or so, just to make sure the toe out is, indeed, out (not in).

Lastly, there is no such thing as "a decent amount of negative camber." Negative camber is always indecent! ;-P


Re: Q200 Videos

Jim Patillo
 

Mike,

Beautiful both videos. Really nice view of a tail wheel
first landing and the smoothness of the touch!

Second one looked like an almost three point squeaker.

Thanks these are great videos from the pilot's perspective. One could almost envision it. :)

Jim P.
N46JP Q200


Re: Q200 Videos

Jay Scheevel
 

Thanks Mike,

Great training videos!

Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building


Q200 Videos

Mike Dwyer
 

Hi All,
I put a couple of new Q200 videos on youtube.  One shows a landing where I was high and fast so pulled up into a stall and made the airport...

Fly Safe.
Mike Q200 N3QP


Re: Q1 Powerplant Change

Mike Dwyer
 

Thomas wrote: "I also didn't like the limitation caused by needing ethanol-free automotive fuel."

Seems like you think other aircraft engines can run ethanol based fuel.  One thing about ethanol based fuel is the ethanol loves to absorb moisture.  Say your fuel is saturated with water at sea level.  You climb to 5000 feet where the temperature is 17 degrees F cooler and that water will come out of suspension.  If enough water comes out, your engine quits.  Thus no aircraft engine should use ethanol based fuel.

Fly Safe.
Mike N3QP Q200



On Sun, Aug 13, 2017 at 6:12 PM, JMasal@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

A lotta this Q-1 alternative engine stuff was covered in Quicktalk 15-20 years ago.


-----Original Message-----
From: castleman_tommybimm6@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...>
To: Q-LIST <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Fri, Aug 11, 2017 9:54 pm
Subject: [Q-LIST] Q1 Powerplant Change

 
Howdy everyone,

I bought N4WH back in September 2015. It has sat in a garage collecting dust for the last two years. The reports I have read from previous owners of the planes suggest that the engine (Kawasaki 340 upgraded by Advance Engine Design) was a good one. However, I could not find a manual, logs, or anyone besides a friend who works on motorcycles (no aircraft experience) who could or would touch the engine. It has compression and seems to be in pretty good shape, but I never felt comfortable trusting my life to it. I also didn't like the limitation caused by needing ethanol-free automotive fuel.

After two years of searching, I finally found a mechanic who would work on experimental aircraft in the Houston area. He said "Don't fly the kawasaki quickie" with strong conviction. I never really did feel comfortable about the mystery engine, so I'm going to go with his advice on this one.

The kawasaki 340 engine is for sale. It has a prince prop. Make an offer. I was thinking about designing a utility drone around it, but if someone has a better use for it, I'd rather see it go to a good home.

I am also looking for an engine that would be suitable to repower the quickie. I'm looking more for ideas and information from people who have flown the Q1 with different engines. I could be interested in buying something, but my airplane budget is kind of low at the moment.

My biggest priority would be cross country capability. I would like something that burns 100LL, is reliable, and doesn't burn too much.

I was thinking about converting a VW engine... I'm looking at different options, but haven't decided on the best one yet. What do you all think?

Thanks,

Thomas



Re: IFR in Qbirds

JMasal@...
 


Does tequila count?
Noope, but it stops the counting.


-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Lankford britmcman@... [Q-LIST]
To: Q-LIST
Sent: Fri, Aug 11, 2017 7:22 pm
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: IFR in Qbirds

 
I have been in Mexico. Does tequila count?

Phil


On Aug 10, 2017, at 11:06 AM, logistics_engineering@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Phil,

Are you self medicating again?

Jim
N46JP Q200😊


Re: IFR in Qbirds

JMasal@...
 

Hee hee heeee, McCormack, I had almost forgotten about the wire brush...ALmost !


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce McCormack bob2@... [Q-LIST]
To: Q-LIST
Sent: Fri, Aug 11, 2017 8:44 am
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: IFR in Qbirds

 
As he slowly returns the wire brush to the drawer, unused but ready.

On 11Aug, 2017, at 3:39, JMasal@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

Alrightee then...


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay fossjay111@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...>
To: Q-LIST <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Wed, Aug 9, 2017 8:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: IFR in Qbirds

 
i am not currently IFR rated but I am planning on getting rated this fall. I think you miss understood me, I would never fly into IFR conditions without an IFR clearance or rating. I have read those accident reports as well and don't want to be a statistic.  I am looking to upgrade my current TRI-q panel and I am thinking of going all the way to have the ability to fly IFR. Iam just trying to get information from the knowledgeable group on wether that is a reasonable option or like some others have already stated the quickie is not a very stable platform and maybe I should just stay VFR with the quickie and rent an IFR certified airplane for those days that are marginal.  
Thanks 
Jay


On Aug 9, 2017, at 5:31 PM, JMasal@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@yahoog roups.com> wrote:

 
OK then.  
you IFR   rated?
... or you just figger the odds are good you won't hit me coming thru the other direction.
Geeeezze.
From 40+ years reading accident reports I don't like those odds even for IFR rated pilots
(who should be more stable even than their aircraft but are not always !)
Being grounded by death lasts toooooo long.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay fossjay111@...  [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...>

 
Hey other Jim
I do not know the other Jim at all. The lite I am talking about is maybe a low cloud base that is not more than a couple thousand feet thick and a destination airport that is marginal VFR. I am not talking about climbing or descending though 10000 feet of CB clouds. I have been grounded by not having the ability to take off with a low cloud base at 500 and clear skies from 300 0 feet of stratus cloud. 
Jay 


On Aug 9, 2017, at 12:39 PM, JMasal@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Jay, how close are y0u and Jim as far as "knowing "each other???
Flying ANY kind of IFR depends a lot on how good a pilot you are and what
level of slo p you are willing to enter. How much lite is lite?
Even with a 50 axis autopilot, does Jim have enough data to evaluate you on that?

Another Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay fossjay111@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...>
To: Q-LIST <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Wed, Aug 9, 2017 8:56 am
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: IFR in Qbirds

 
Thanks Jim
Ya I was also thinking about that. I am planning on a two Axis auto pilot, in your opinion will that not be enough?
Jay


On Aug 8, 2017, at 6:22 PM, logistics_engineering@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Hi Jay,

I've flown "Lite IFR" in my Q200 and would not recommend it without a 3 axis autopilot. The Q is not a real stable platform.........IMHO. 

Jim Patillo

N46JP Q200



Re: Q1 Powerplant Change

JMasal@...
 

A lotta this Q-1 alternative engine stuff was covered in Quicktalk 15-20 years ago.


-----Original Message-----
From: castleman_tommybimm6@... [Q-LIST]
To: Q-LIST
Sent: Fri, Aug 11, 2017 9:54 pm
Subject: [Q-LIST] Q1 Powerplant Change

 
Howdy everyone,

I bought N4WH back in September 2015. It has sat in a garage collecting dust for the last two years. The reports I have read from previous owners of the planes suggest that the engine (Kawasaki 340 upgraded by Advance Engine Design) was a good one. However, I could not find a manual, logs, or anyone besides a friend who works on motorcycles (no aircraft experience) who could or would touch the engine. It has compression and seems to be in pretty good shape, but I never felt comfortable trusting my life to it. I also didn't like the limitation caused by needing ethanol-free automotive fuel.

After two years of searching, I finally found a mechanic who would work on experimental aircraft in the Houston area. He said "Don't fly the kawasaki quickie" with strong conviction. I never really did feel comfortable about the mystery engine, so I'm going to go with his advice on this one.

The kawasaki 340 engine is for sale. It has a prince prop. Make an offer. I was thinking about designing a utility drone around it, but if someone has a better use for it, I'd rather see it go to a good home.

I am also looking for an engine that would be suitable to repower the quickie. I'm looking more for ideas and information from people who have flown the Q1 with different engines. I could be interested in buying something, but my airplane budget is kind of low at the moment.

My biggest priority would be cross country capability. I would like something that burns 100LL, is reliable, and doesn't burn too much.

I was thinking about converting a VW engine... I'm looking at different options, but haven't decided on the best one yet. What do you all think?

Thanks,

Thomas


Re: Q1 Powerplant Change

David J. Gall
 

I think you're in way over your head.


Re: Curcio Q-200 J-B 6-pack questions

quickieaircraft
 

After buying a number of more expensive, premium slides and confirming that they were too large and quite heavy, I eventually constructed my own from inexpensive Home Depot drawer slides. After unbending the tabbed middle and end stops, they disassemble into an inner and outer slide, a ball bearing race, and the bearings themselves. I cut each item to length, drilled mounting holes, and fabricated end tabs after reassembling. They have been working well.

If
TriQ200 50 hours


Q1 Powerplant Change

Tommy Castleman
 

Howdy everyone,


I bought N4WH back in September 2015. It has sat in a garage collecting dust for the last two years. The reports I have read from previous owners of the planes suggest that the engine (Kawasaki 340 upgraded by Advance Engine Design) was a good one. However, I could not find a manual, logs, or anyone besides a friend who works on motorcycles (no aircraft experience) who could or would touch the engine. It has compression and seems to be in pretty good shape, but I never felt comfortable trusting my life to it. I also didn't like the limitation caused by needing ethanol-free automotive fuel.


After two years of searching, I finally found a mechanic who would work on experimental aircraft in the Houston area. He said "Don't fly the kawasaki quickie" with strong conviction. I never really did feel comfortable about the mystery engine, so I'm going to go with his advice on this one.


The kawasaki 340 engine is for sale. It has a prince prop. Make an offer. I was thinking about designing a utility drone around it, but if someone has a better use for it, I'd rather see it go to a good home.


I am also looking for an engine that would be suitable to repower the quickie. I'm looking more for ideas and information from people who have flown the Q1 with different engines. I could be interested in buying something, but my airplane budget is kind of low at the moment.


My biggest priority would be cross country capability. I would like something that burns 100LL, is reliable, and doesn't burn too much.


I was thinking about converting a VW engine... I'm looking at different options, but haven't decided on the best one yet. What do you all think?


Thanks,


Thomas


Re: Curcio Q-200 J-B 6-pack questions

Jay Scheevel
 

hit the link that says telescoping slides.


Re: Curcio Q-200 J-B 6-pack questions

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Matthew,

Re your Q4: I have always had good luck with slider type of hardware from McMaster Carr. In fact, I like almost everything I have gotten from them. Try the following link to see if it something you may be able to use:

https://www.mcmaster.com/#positioning-slides/=18wgbnn

Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q, still building


Re: IFR in Qbirds

britmcman99
 

I have been in Mexico. Does tequila count?

Phil


On Aug 10, 2017, at 11:06 AM, logistics_engineering@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Phil,

Are you self medicating again?

Jim
N46JP Q200😊


Re: IFR in Qbirds

Bruce McCormack
 

As he slowly returns the wire brush to the drawer, unused but ready.

On 11Aug, 2017, at 3:39, JMasal@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

Alrightee then...


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay fossjay111@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...>
To: Q-LIST <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Wed, Aug 9, 2017 8:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: IFR in Qbirds

 
i am not currently IFR rated but I am planning on getting rated this fall. I think you miss understood me, I would never fly into IFR conditions without an IFR clearance or rating. I have read those accident reports as well and don't want to be a statistic.  I am looking to upgrade my current TRI-q panel and I am thinking of going all the way to have the ability to fly IFR. Iam just trying to get information from the knowledgeable group on wether that is a reasonable option or like some others have already stated the quickie is not a very stable platform and maybe I should just stay VFR with the quickie and rent an IFR certified airplane for those days that are marginal.  
Thanks 
Jay


On Aug 9, 2017, at 5:31 PM, JMasal@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
OK then.  
you IFR   rated?
... or you just figger the odds are good you won't hit me coming thru the other direction.
Geeeezze.
From 40+ years reading accident reports I don't like those odds even for IFR rated pilots
(who should be more stable even than their aircraft but are not always !)
Being grounded by death lasts toooooo long.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay fossjay111@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...>

 
Hey other Jim
I do not know the other Jim at all. The lite I am talking about is maybe a low cloud base that is not more than a couple thousand feet thick and a destination airport that is marginal VFR. I am not talking about climbing or descending though 10000 feet of CB clouds. I have been grounded by not having the ability to take off with a low cloud base at 500 and clear skies from 3000 feet of stratus cloud. 
Jay 


On Aug 9, 2017, at 12:39 PM, JMasal@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Jay, how close are y0u and Jim as far as "knowing "each other???
Flying ANY kind of IFR depends a lot on how good a pilot you are and what
level of slop you are willing to enter. How much lite is lite?
Even with a 50 axis autopilot, does Jim have enough data to evaluate you on that?

Another Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay fossjay111@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...>
To: Q-LIST <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Wed, Aug 9, 2017 8:56 am
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: IFR in Qbirds

 
Thanks Jim
Ya I was also thinking about that. I am planning on a two Axis auto pilot, in your opinion will that not be enough?
Jay


On Aug 8, 2017, at 6:22 PM, logistics_engineering@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Hi Jay,

I've flown "Lite IFR" in my Q200 and would not recommend it without a 3 axis autopilot. The Q is not a real stable platform.........IMHO. 

Jim Patillo

N46JP Q200



Re: Curcio Q-200 J-B 6-pack questions

JMasal@...
 

Ahhhh, History.
The Dfly spring was covered in a very old Q-TALK as well as other trials if anyone
knows the issue no.


-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]
To: Q-LIST
Sent: Thu, Aug 10, 2017 12:49 pm
Subject: [Q-LIST] Curcio Q-200 J-B 6-pack questions

 
Much thanks for all of the support you all have been providing me. Cliff notes - help with the 2 questions at the bottom is what I am mostly after. I had a conversation with Jim Patillo and I am going to move forward with the Jim-Bob six pack mods. I already have the reflexor ailerons and the belly board. I need to add the differential brakes (I'm going to use the toe brake setup as I don't have the space for the two handle setup), the rudder / tailwheel bellcrank, and the swiveling tailwheel. 

Here are the questions:

Q1 - Start with an easy one - anybody have the part number of the aviation products tailwheel you'd recommend. I'm thinking it is the 4" solid wheel with the 5/8" round attach and the only question is 20° or 10°. I can figure this out on my own but if anyone has the number handy that would be great.

Q2 - Gall alignment - the general jist of what I am reading with this is that I want to axle to be at 0° camber when the airplane is loaded at 1100 lbs and have, if anything a slight toe out (1°). If wheel pants won't allow zero camber I should get it as close to zero as possible. Is this correct? as of now I have a decent amount of negative camber - I haven't actually sighted it yet but it is apparent.

Q3 - THIS IS THE BIG ONE - I would really like to change out my tailwheel spring to the dragonfly design as it has already been shortened and I understand the dragon fly design is less prone to breaking. I found instructions for how to lay up and shape this but I'm not sure how I go about removing the old one. Well lets put it this way - how I do it with the least amount of sawzalling. A nudge in the right direction would be great on this one.

Q4 - Does anybody have a part number on canopy slides that work best? I bought some from my local aircraft canopy slide supply store (some call it Menards) and they are worthless.

Outside of these mods the airplane is ready to fly I just need to get in shape to fly it Ie. lots of taxi testing and some dual in a T-18. I have been doing some slow taxi testing - I found that the tires have flat spots from sitting so I'm probable going to need to replace them prior to doing anything above a slow taxi. I was hoping some slow taxiing would get them to level out but no such luck.

Thanks,

Matthew Curcio
734.693.6326




From: Q-LIST@... LIST@...> on behalf of David@... [Q-LIST] LIST@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 11:26 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Field of Dreams Flyin - Sep 22-24
 
 
Matthew,

The "Gall alignment" is only part of the equation. It isn't complete until you do the "Jim-Bob six-pack," too. Please do the independent toe brakes, etc. ASAP. Jim Patillo can fill you in on the details....

Welcome aboard!

David J. Gall


Re: IFR in Qbirds

JMasal@...
 

Alrightee then...


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay fossjay111@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...>
To: Q-LIST
Sent: Wed, Aug 9, 2017 8:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: IFR in Qbirds

 
i am not currently IFR rated but I am planning on getting rated this fall. I think you miss understood me, I would never fly into IFR conditions without an IFR clearance or rating. I have read those accident reports as well and don't want to be a statistic.  I am looking to upgrade my current TRI-q panel and I am thinking of going all the way to have the ability to fly IFR. Iam just trying to get information from the knowledgeable group on wether that is a reasonable option or like some others have already stated the quickie is not a very stable platform and maybe I should just stay VFR with the quickie and rent an IFR certified airplane for those days that are marginal.  
Thanks 
Jay


On Aug 9, 2017, at 5:31 PM, JMasal@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
OK then.  
you IFR   rated?
... or you just figger the odds are good you won't hit me coming thru the other direction.
Geeeezze.
From 40+ years reading accident reports I don't like those odds even for IFR rated pilots
(who should be more stable even than their aircraft but are not always !)
Being grounded by death lasts toooooo long.


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay fossjay111@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...>

 
Hey other Jim
I do not know the other Jim at all. The lite I am talking about is maybe a low cloud base that is not more than a couple thousand feet thick and a destination airport that is marginal VFR. I am not talking about climbing or descending though 10000 feet of CB clouds. I have been grounded by not having the ability to take off with a low cloud base at 500 and clear skies from 3000 feet of stratus cloud. 
Jay 


On Aug 9, 2017, at 12:39 PM, JMasal@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Jay, how close are y0u and Jim as far as "knowing "each other???
Flying ANY kind of IFR depends a lot on how good a pilot you are and what
level of slop you are willing to enter. How much lite is lite?
Even with a 50 axis autopilot, does Jim have enough data to evaluate you on that?

Another Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: Jay fossjay111@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...>
To: Q-LIST <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Wed, Aug 9, 2017 8:56 am
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Re: IFR in Qbirds

 
Thanks Jim
Ya I was also thinking about that. I am planning on a two Axis auto pilot, in your opinion will that not be enough?
Jay


On Aug 8, 2017, at 6:22 PM, logistics_engineering@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 
Hi Jay,

I've flown "Lite IFR" in my Q200 and would not recommend it without a 3 axis autopilot. The Q is not a real stable platform.........IMHO.

Jim Patillo

N46JP Q200


Re: Field of Dreams Flyin - Sep 22-24

David J. Gall
 

Matthew,

1° toe out is not "slight" but "moderate." With tires, think in terms of an aerodynamic surface deflection, then divide by three. So 1° toe out would be like 3° rudder deflection. You want to measure to an accuracy of 1/8° or less. For example, my 1984 Honda Civic front end alignment called for 0° camber and 1/4° toe out, both numbers expressed as plus or minus .02°, so you can see that our airplane eyeball engineering is way less precise than a typical sedan. 

The other thing you want is for the positive toe out at gross weight (worst case) to be numerically greater than the (absolute value of the) negative camber. If you load up to 1100 lbs. and find that your wheel pants limit you to 3/4° negative camber, then you'd want more than 3/4° toe out -- I'd suggest a full 1° toe out. But if your wheel pants allow you to get to 0° or positive camber at gross weight, then just a smidgen of toe out is needed, say, 1/4° degree or so, just to make sure the toe out is, indeed, out (not in).

Lastly, there is no such thing as "a decent amount of negative camber." Negative camber is always indecent! ;-P

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