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Re: Important Items for a Long Cross Country

Bruce Crain
 


Re: Important Items for a Long Cross Country

Jim Patillo
 

Mathew,

Congratulations on your trip. Sounds like most of the way was smooth sailin’.

It’s nice to have another flying Q in the neighborhood.

Regards,

Jim
N46JP Q200


Re: Important Items for a Long Cross Country

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Matthew,

Thanks for the great report. Glad the flight finally worked out for you. You will not have to face those low temps and poor visibility very often now. Sounds like you really shook it out on this trip. Glad Bruce was there to help you work out your oil pressure issues. Keep us posted on what you do with the plane in the future, and by all means go up north and visit the Quickie crowd in Bako and Livermore.

Happy New Year!

Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q,still building


Re: Important Items for a Long Cross Country

Jerry Marstall
 

Great!!  J

 

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 10:27 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Important Items for a Long Cross Country

 

 

I do plan to make the trip to Enid next fall and I’m lookin forward to meeting all of you in person. I’ll be happy to brief up on my experience in Mojave!

Matthew Curcio

419-290-3773

 


On Dec 31, 2017, at 7:23 AM, 'Jerry Marstall' jerrylm1986@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Matthew,

I don’t have a cabin heater.  When it is sunny, it’s fine, but when overcast, not so fine.  I’m a warm/fair weather flyer.

 

Best of luck to you in your new career.  Truly every engineer’s dream to work in Mojave with the best.

 

Maybe we can see you in Enid next Fall and you can brief us all on your experience.

 

Regards,

Jerry

 

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 10:14 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Important Items for a Long Cross Country

 

 

The heat in my Q seems to work really well. It’s just the standard muff the q200 manual shows. I had dressed for the weather. As soon as I took off I pulled off my gloves as they weren’t necessary. On the first leg, Ohio - Kentucky, my toes were pretty cold just because the heat blast in on the passenger side. It was 4F in the ground and I was at 8500 most of the way so I’m estimating it was somewhere around -10 to -20 at altitude. The rest of the stops that day were all about 20F and I was very comfortable in the Q. 

Matthew Curcio

419-290-3773

 


On Dec 31, 2017, at 7:00 AM, 'Jerry Marstall' jnmarstall@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew,

I am interested in how you prevented yourself from becoming a frozen block of flesh upon departing Ohio.  As a minimum you must have a blast furnace as your cockpit heater and numerous campfires throughout the cockpit.

 

How did you ever stay warm (functional)??????

Jerry

 

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 1:37 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Important Items for a Long Cross Country

 

 

The guy I bought it from was Philip Dominito but the builder was Dennis Thomas. Phil and Dennis built two together back in the mid 80’s and they both spent there entire life in Ohio at the airport I was based out of (TDZ). Mine was sitting for about 15 years when I got it. 

Matthew Curcio

419-290-3773

 


On Dec 30, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Good report Matthew! Glad you were successful. 

Who was the previous owner.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Again, congrats, and fly safe.

 

Kevin Boddicker

TriQ 200 

N7868B 445hrs




On Dec 30, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I made it into California Thursday night. I left Ohio Tuesday morning. It was 4F out in Ohio and Ohio didn’t want me to leave! The airport did their best to keep the runway clear for me but 5” of snow Christmas Eve and strong winds on Christmas made it tough the taxiway from the hangar to the runway had huge drifts so we towed the airplane out to the runway and did my run up and everything there. It was in a heated hangar so It was preflighted, warm and ready to go. There was a lot of clouds and snow to navigate around getting out of Ohio but after a few stops and smooth flying, I made it to Enid well before sundown and was greeted by Bruce Crain.

 

It was awesome to have a fellow quickie pilot to stay with and made everything so much easier! Thanks again Bruce! Wednesday morning the weather at DHT was IFR and there was no way around it so it made for an easy decision to stick around for the day and diagnose my oil pressure. My oil pressure was always right around 30psi which seemed low for how fresh the engine is. It was 20psi the whole way from Ohio to Enid which was concerning. I suspected and issue with the gauge or relief valve and after verifying the gauge measurement we moved on to the relief valve which had what appeared to be about 5 pieces of very hard dry rubber behind it and at least one of them holding the valve open. Cleaned that out, drained and screened the oil (it was clean) and did a test flight - 42psi sweet!

 

I had to wait around Enid until 10am to let low ceilings en route to Dalhart open up enough for me to make it there. The weather cleared up halfway to Dalhart. I didn’t think I would make it to Cali with the late start and short day but a nice tailwind most of the day and some quick fuel steps let me make it into glamis just before sunset. As all of you know the scenery from Dalhart to Glamis was pretty incredible. Thanks for all the advice fellas! Happy I didn’t need to use any of my survival gear but it’s great to have it all now. 

 

 

Matthew Curcio

419-290-3773

 


On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Jerry Marstall jerrylm1986@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew should be commended for reaching out to the group seeking information on X-C flying in a Q.  Several lifesaving suggestions were offered.  

 

Sometimes our egos prevent us from exposing our limitations or lack of knowledge.   Matthew is obviously a confident and competent aviator.

 

Wishing you a great experience on your flight west.

Jerry 

 

On Dec 19, 2017 9:33 AM, "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I'm getting ready to make a literal cross country to bring my Q200 out here to Mojave from my previous home airport in Ohio. I'm planning for <2 hour ~300 mile legs and I'm going to go south and around the rockies. Anywho, any Q specific items or tips you all might have for a long cross country? This will be my first time in any cross country venturing more than 3 states from Ohio.

 

Current List:

 

Warm clothes and blanket

water for 2 days and a couple of MRE's

Ipad and Iphone with foreflight for NAV and LA VFR sectional

3 Charging cables( for Ipad and Iphone and spare)

Handheld radio

tie downs (can be used for hand propping if need arises)

30ah Lipo battery back - lightweight and can be used for jumpstarting, backup source for charging nav devices, and added battery reserve for fuel pump (I ditched the hand pump in lieu of a redundant electric pump) in the event of an alternator failure.

 

 

 

Matthew Curcio

419.290.3773


Re: Important Items for a Long Cross Country

Matthew Curcio
 

I do plan to make the trip to Enid next fall and I’m lookin forward to meeting all of you in person. I’ll be happy to brief up on my experience in Mojave!

Matthew Curcio
419-290-3773


On Dec 31, 2017, at 7:23 AM, 'Jerry Marstall' jerrylm1986@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Thanks Matthew,

I don’t have a cabin heater.  When it is sunny, it’s fine, but when overcast, not so fine.  I’m a warm/fair weather flyer.

 

Best of luck to you in your new career.  Truly every engineer’s dream to work in Mojave with the best.

 

Maybe we can see you in Enid next Fall and you can brief us all on your experience.

 

Regards,

Jerry

 

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 10:14 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Important Items for a Long Cross Country

 

 

The heat in my Q seems to work really well. It’s just the standard muff the q200 manual shows. I had dressed for the weather. As soon as I took off I pulled off my gloves as they weren’t necessary. On the first leg, Ohio - Kentucky, my toes were pretty cold just because the heat blast in on the passenger side. It was 4F in the ground and I was at 8500 most of the way so I’m estimating it was somewhere around -10 to -20 at altitude. The rest of the stops that day were all about 20F and I was very comfortable in the Q. 

Matthew Curcio

419-290-3773

 


On Dec 31, 2017, at 7:00 AM, 'Jerry Marstall' jnmarstall@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew,

I am interested in how you prevented yourself from becoming a frozen block of flesh upon departing Ohio.  As a minimum you must have a blast furnace as your cockpit heater and numerous campfires throughout the cockpit.

 

How did you ever stay warm (functional)??????

Jerry

 

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 1:37 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Important Items for a Long Cross Country

 

 

The guy I bought it from was Philip Dominito but the builder was Dennis Thomas. Phil and Dennis built two together back in the mid 80’s and they both spent there entire life in Ohio at the airport I was based out of (TDZ). Mine was sitting for about 15 years when I got it. 

Matthew Curcio

419-290-3773

 


On Dec 30, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Good report Matthew! Glad you were successful. 

Who was the previous owner.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Again, congrats, and fly safe.

 

Kevin Boddicker

TriQ 200 

N7868B 445hrs




On Dec 30, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I made it into California Thursday night. I left Ohio Tuesday morning. It was 4F out in Ohio and Ohio didn’t want me to leave! The airport did their best to keep the runway clear for me but 5” of snow Christmas Eve and strong winds on Christmas made it tough the taxiway from the hangar to the runway had huge drifts so we towed the airplane out to the runway and did my run up and everything there. It was in a heated hangar so It was preflighted, warm and ready to go. There was a lot of clouds and snow to navigate around getting out of Ohio but after a few stops and smooth flying, I made it to Enid well before sundown and was greeted by Bruce Crain.

 

It was awesome to have a fellow quickie pilot to stay with and made everything so much easier! Thanks again Bruce! Wednesday morning the weather at DHT was IFR and there was no way around it so it made for an easy decision to stick around for the day and diagnose my oil pressure. My oil pressure was always right around 30psi which seemed low for how fresh the engine is. It was 20psi the whole way from Ohio to Enid which was concerning. I suspected and issue with the gauge or relief valve and after verifying the gauge measurement we moved on to the relief valve which had what appeared to be about 5 pieces of very hard dry rubber behind it and at least one of them holding the valve open. Cleaned that out, drained and screened the oil (it was clean) and did a test flight - 42psi sweet!

 

I had to wait around Enid until 10am to let low ceilings en route to Dalhart open up enough for me to make it there. The weather cleared up halfway to Dalhart. I didn’t think I would make it to Cali with the late start and short day but a nice tailwind most of the day and some quick fuel steps let me make it into glamis just before sunset. As all of you know the scenery from Dalhart to Glamis was pretty incredible. Thanks for all the advice fellas! Happy I didn’t need to use any of my survival gear but it’s great to have it all now. 

 

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Matthew Curcio

419-290-3773

 


On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Jerry Marstall jerrylm1986@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew should be commended for reaching out to the group seeking information on X-C flying in a Q.  Several lifesaving suggestions were offered.  

 

Sometimes our egos prevent us from exposing our limitations or lack of knowledge.   Matthew is obviously a confident and competent aviator.

 

Wishing you a great experience on your flight west.

Jerry 

 

On Dec 19, 2017 9:33 AM, "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I'm getting ready to make a literal cross country to bring my Q200 out here to Mojave from my previous home airport in Ohio. I'm planning for <2 hour ~300 mile legs and I'm going to go south and around the rockies. Anywho, any Q specific items or tips you all might have for a long cross country? This will be my first time in any cross country venturing more than 3 states from Ohio.

 

Current List:

 

Warm clothes and blanket

water for 2 days and a couple of MRE's

Ipad and Iphone with foreflight for NAV and LA VFR sectional

3 Charging cables( for Ipad and Iphone and spare)

Handheld radio

tie downs (can be used for hand propping if need arises)

30ah Lipo battery back - lightweight and can be used for jumpstarting, backup source for charging nav devices, and added battery reserve for fuel pump (I ditched the hand pump in lieu of a redundant electric pump) in the event of an alternator failure.

 

 

 

Matthew Curcio

419.290.3773


Need some details on making my canopy side hinge

Matthew Curcio
 

I’d like some info on how to convert my canopy from the slides to the side piano  hinge style (like what Sam has). Pictures and any advice would be fantastic. 

I’m sure I’ll get some opinions on this so here is my reasoning. My sliding canopy has been nothing but trouble. I’ve spent more time fiddling with them than anything else on the plane. When I got in Tuesday morning they had iced up and to get them to move meant yanking the ball bearing carriers out so I had to deal with that at every stop on my flight this past week. I got the best slides you can buy and they won’t last for me. I know I’m probably doing something wrong but it seems more complicated then it should be. They rattle when I’m flying, when the canopy slides fail it damages your paint, they’re tricky to install without damaging paint, and more importantly during maintenance on the dash the canopy is in your way. The hinge seems like the most simple canopy closure and I like simple!

Matthew Curcio
419-290-3773


Re: Important Items for a Long Cross Country

Jerry Marstall
 

Thanks Matthew,

I don’t have a cabin heater.  When it is sunny, it’s fine, but when overcast, not so fine.  I’m a warm/fair weather flyer.

 

Best of luck to you in your new career.  Truly every engineer’s dream to work in Mojave with the best.

 

Maybe we can see you in Enid next Fall and you can brief us all on your experience.

 

Regards,

Jerry

 

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2017 10:14 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Important Items for a Long Cross Country

 

 

The heat in my Q seems to work really well. It’s just the standard muff the q200 manual shows. I had dressed for the weather. As soon as I took off I pulled off my gloves as they weren’t necessary. On the first leg, Ohio - Kentucky, my toes were pretty cold just because the heat blast in on the passenger side. It was 4F in the ground and I was at 8500 most of the way so I’m estimating it was somewhere around -10 to -20 at altitude. The rest of the stops that day were all about 20F and I was very comfortable in the Q. 

Matthew Curcio

419-290-3773

 


On Dec 31, 2017, at 7:00 AM, 'Jerry Marstall' jnmarstall@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew,

I am interested in how you prevented yourself from becoming a frozen block of flesh upon departing Ohio.  As a minimum you must have a blast furnace as your cockpit heater and numerous campfires throughout the cockpit.

 

How did you ever stay warm (functional)??????

Jerry

 

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 1:37 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Important Items for a Long Cross Country

 

 

The guy I bought it from was Philip Dominito but the builder was Dennis Thomas. Phil and Dennis built two together back in the mid 80’s and they both spent there entire life in Ohio at the airport I was based out of (TDZ). Mine was sitting for about 15 years when I got it. 

Matthew Curcio

419-290-3773

 


On Dec 30, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Good report Matthew! Glad you were successful. 

Who was the previous owner.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Again, congrats, and fly safe.

 

Kevin Boddicker

TriQ 200 

N7868B 445hrs




On Dec 30, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I made it into California Thursday night. I left Ohio Tuesday morning. It was 4F out in Ohio and Ohio didn’t want me to leave! The airport did their best to keep the runway clear for me but 5” of snow Christmas Eve and strong winds on Christmas made it tough the taxiway from the hangar to the runway had huge drifts so we towed the airplane out to the runway and did my run up and everything there. It was in a heated hangar so It was preflighted, warm and ready to go. There was a lot of clouds and snow to navigate around getting out of Ohio but after a few stops and smooth flying, I made it to Enid well before sundown and was greeted by Bruce Crain.

 

It was awesome to have a fellow quickie pilot to stay with and made everything so much easier! Thanks again Bruce! Wednesday morning the weather at DHT was IFR and there was no way around it so it made for an easy decision to stick around for the day and diagnose my oil pressure. My oil pressure was always right around 30psi which seemed low for how fresh the engine is. It was 20psi the whole way from Ohio to Enid which was concerning. I suspected and issue with the gauge or relief valve and after verifying the gauge measurement we moved on to the relief valve which had what appeared to be about 5 pieces of very hard dry rubber behind it and at least one of them holding the valve open. Cleaned that out, drained and screened the oil (it was clean) and did a test flight - 42psi sweet!

 

I had to wait around Enid until 10am to let low ceilings en route to Dalhart open up enough for me to make it there. The weather cleared up halfway to Dalhart. I didn’t think I would make it to Cali with the late start and short day but a nice tailwind most of the day and some quick fuel steps let me make it into glamis just before sunset. As all of you know the scenery from Dalhart to Glamis was pretty incredible. Thanks for all the advice fellas! Happy I didn’t need to use any of my survival gear but it’s great to have it all now. 

 

 

Matthew Curcio

419-290-3773

 


On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Jerry Marstall jerrylm1986@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew should be commended for reaching out to the group seeking information on X-C flying in a Q.  Several lifesaving suggestions were offered.  

 

Sometimes our egos prevent us from exposing our limitations or lack of knowledge.   Matthew is obviously a confident and competent aviator.

 

Wishing you a great experience on your flight west.

Jerry 

 

On Dec 19, 2017 9:33 AM, "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I'm getting ready to make a literal cross country to bring my Q200 out here to Mojave from my previous home airport in Ohio. I'm planning for <2 hour ~300 mile legs and I'm going to go south and around the rockies. Anywho, any Q specific items or tips you all might have for a long cross country? This will be my first time in any cross country venturing more than 3 states from Ohio.

 

Current List:

 

Warm clothes and blanket

water for 2 days and a couple of MRE's

Ipad and Iphone with foreflight for NAV and LA VFR sectional

3 Charging cables( for Ipad and Iphone and spare)

Handheld radio

tie downs (can be used for hand propping if need arises)

30ah Lipo battery back - lightweight and can be used for jumpstarting, backup source for charging nav devices, and added battery reserve for fuel pump (I ditched the hand pump in lieu of a redundant electric pump) in the event of an alternator failure.

 

 

 

Matthew Curcio

419.290.3773


Re: Important Items for a Long Cross Country

Matthew Curcio
 

The heat in my Q seems to work really well. It’s just the standard muff the q200 manual shows. I had dressed for the weather. As soon as I took off I pulled off my gloves as they weren’t necessary. On the first leg, Ohio - Kentucky, my toes were pretty cold just because the heat blast in on the passenger side. It was 4F in the ground and I was at 8500 most of the way so I’m estimating it was somewhere around -10 to -20 at altitude. The rest of the stops that day were all about 20F and I was very comfortable in the Q. 

Matthew Curcio
419-290-3773


On Dec 31, 2017, at 7:00 AM, 'Jerry Marstall' jnmarstall@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew,

I am interested in how you prevented yourself from becoming a frozen block of flesh upon departing Ohio.  As a minimum you must have a blast furnace as your cockpit heater and numerous campfires throughout the cockpit.

 

How did you ever stay warm (functional)??????

Jerry

 

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 1:37 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Important Items for a Long Cross Country

 

 

The guy I bought it from was Philip Dominito but the builder was Dennis Thomas. Phil and Dennis built two together back in the mid 80’s and they both spent there entire life in Ohio at the airport I was based out of (TDZ). Mine was sitting for about 15 years when I got it. 

Matthew Curcio

419-290-3773

 


On Dec 30, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Good report Matthew! Glad you were successful. 

Who was the previous owner.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Again, congrats, and fly safe.

 

Kevin Boddicker

TriQ 200 

N7868B 445hrs




On Dec 30, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I made it into California Thursday night. I left Ohio Tuesday morning. It was 4F out in Ohio and Ohio didn’t want me to leave! The airport did their best to keep the runway clear for me but 5” of snow Christmas Eve and strong winds on Christmas made it tough the taxiway from the hangar to the runway had huge drifts so we towed the airplane out to the runway and did my run up and everything there. It was in a heated hangar so It was preflighted, warm and ready to go. There was a lot of clouds and snow to navigate around getting out of Ohio but after a few stops and smooth flying, I made it to Enid well before sundown and was greeted by Bruce Crain.

 

It was awesome to have a fellow quickie pilot to stay with and made everything so much easier! Thanks again Bruce! Wednesday morning the weather at DHT was IFR and there was no way around it so it made for an easy decision to stick around for the day and diagnose my oil pressure. My oil pressure was always right around 30psi which seemed low for how fresh the engine is. It was 20psi the whole way from Ohio to Enid which was concerning. I suspected and issue with the gauge or relief valve and after verifying the gauge measurement we moved on to the relief valve which had what appeared to be about 5 pieces of very hard dry rubber behind it and at least one of them holding the valve open. Cleaned that out, drained and screened the oil (it was clean) and did a test flight - 42psi sweet!

 

I had to wait around Enid until 10am to let low ceilings en route to Dalhart open up enough for me to make it there. The weather cleared up halfway to Dalhart. I didn’t think I would make it to Cali with the late start and short day but a nice tailwind most of the day and some quick fuel steps let me make it into glamis just before sunset. As all of you know the scenery from Dalhart to Glamis was pretty incredible. Thanks for all the advice fellas! Happy I didn’t need to use any of my survival gear but it’s great to have it all now. 

 

<image1.jpeg>

 

Matthew Curcio

419-290-3773

 


On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Jerry Marstall jerrylm1986@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew should be commended for reaching out to the group seeking information on X-C flying in a Q.  Several lifesaving suggestions were offered.  

 

Sometimes our egos prevent us from exposing our limitations or lack of knowledge.   Matthew is obviously a confident and competent aviator.

 

Wishing you a great experience on your flight west.

Jerry 

 

On Dec 19, 2017 9:33 AM, "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I'm getting ready to make a literal cross country to bring my Q200 out here to Mojave from my previous home airport in Ohio. I'm planning for <2 hour ~300 mile legs and I'm going to go south and around the rockies. Anywho, any Q specific items or tips you all might have for a long cross country? This will be my first time in any cross country venturing more than 3 states from Ohio.

 

Current List:

 

Warm clothes and blanket

water for 2 days and a couple of MRE's

Ipad and Iphone with foreflight for NAV and LA VFR sectional

3 Charging cables( for Ipad and Iphone and spare)

Handheld radio

tie downs (can be used for hand propping if need arises)

30ah Lipo battery back - lightweight and can be used for jumpstarting, backup source for charging nav devices, and added battery reserve for fuel pump (I ditched the hand pump in lieu of a redundant electric pump) in the event of an alternator failure.

 

 

 

Matthew Curcio

419.290.3773


Re: Important Items for a Long Cross Country

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Matthew,

I am interested in how you prevented yourself from becoming a frozen block of flesh upon departing Ohio.  As a minimum you must have a blast furnace as your cockpit heater and numerous campfires throughout the cockpit.

 

How did you ever stay warm (functional)??????

Jerry

 

From: Q-LIST@... [mailto:Q-LIST@...]
Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2017 1:37 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Important Items for a Long Cross Country

 

 

The guy I bought it from was Philip Dominito but the builder was Dennis Thomas. Phil and Dennis built two together back in the mid 80’s and they both spent there entire life in Ohio at the airport I was based out of (TDZ). Mine was sitting for about 15 years when I got it. 

Matthew Curcio

419-290-3773

 


On Dec 30, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Good report Matthew! Glad you were successful. 

Who was the previous owner.

Inquiring minds want to know.

Again, congrats, and fly safe.

 

Kevin Boddicker

TriQ 200 

N7868B 445hrs




On Dec 30, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I made it into California Thursday night. I left Ohio Tuesday morning. It was 4F out in Ohio and Ohio didn’t want me to leave! The airport did their best to keep the runway clear for me but 5” of snow Christmas Eve and strong winds on Christmas made it tough the taxiway from the hangar to the runway had huge drifts so we towed the airplane out to the runway and did my run up and everything there. It was in a heated hangar so It was preflighted, warm and ready to go. There was a lot of clouds and snow to navigate around getting out of Ohio but after a few stops and smooth flying, I made it to Enid well before sundown and was greeted by Bruce Crain.

 

It was awesome to have a fellow quickie pilot to stay with and made everything so much easier! Thanks again Bruce! Wednesday morning the weather at DHT was IFR and there was no way around it so it made for an easy decision to stick around for the day and diagnose my oil pressure. My oil pressure was always right around 30psi which seemed low for how fresh the engine is. It was 20psi the whole way from Ohio to Enid which was concerning. I suspected and issue with the gauge or relief valve and after verifying the gauge measurement we moved on to the relief valve which had what appeared to be about 5 pieces of very hard dry rubber behind it and at least one of them holding the valve open. Cleaned that out, drained and screened the oil (it was clean) and did a test flight - 42psi sweet!

 

I had to wait around Enid until 10am to let low ceilings en route to Dalhart open up enough for me to make it there. The weather cleared up halfway to Dalhart. I didn’t think I would make it to Cali with the late start and short day but a nice tailwind most of the day and some quick fuel steps let me make it into glamis just before sunset. As all of you know the scenery from Dalhart to Glamis was pretty incredible. Thanks for all the advice fellas! Happy I didn’t need to use any of my survival gear but it’s great to have it all now. 

 

 

Matthew Curcio

419-290-3773

 


On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Jerry Marstall jerrylm1986@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew should be commended for reaching out to the group seeking information on X-C flying in a Q.  Several lifesaving suggestions were offered.  

 

Sometimes our egos prevent us from exposing our limitations or lack of knowledge.   Matthew is obviously a confident and competent aviator.

 

Wishing you a great experience on your flight west.

Jerry 

 

On Dec 19, 2017 9:33 AM, "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I'm getting ready to make a literal cross country to bring my Q200 out here to Mojave from my previous home airport in Ohio. I'm planning for <2 hour ~300 mile legs and I'm going to go south and around the rockies. Anywho, any Q specific items or tips you all might have for a long cross country? This will be my first time in any cross country venturing more than 3 states from Ohio.

 

Current List:

 

Warm clothes and blanket

water for 2 days and a couple of MRE's

Ipad and Iphone with foreflight for NAV and LA VFR sectional

3 Charging cables( for Ipad and Iphone and spare)

Handheld radio

tie downs (can be used for hand propping if need arises)

30ah Lipo battery back - lightweight and can be used for jumpstarting, backup source for charging nav devices, and added battery reserve for fuel pump (I ditched the hand pump in lieu of a redundant electric pump) in the event of an alternator failure.

 

 

 

Matthew Curcio

419.290.3773


Re: Important Items for a Long Cross Country

sanjay <Sanjay@...>
 

Matt,  Congrats on a successful adventure.
Sanjay

-------- Original message --------
From: "Paul Fisher rv7a.n18pf@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...>
Date: 12/30/17 3:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Important Items for a Long Cross Country

 

Glad you made it safely Matthew.  I figure the reason to carry survival gear is so you never have to use it!  Thanks for letting us know about your success.

And good on you Bruce for hosting Matthew.  I'm sure he was glad to see a friendly face, especially since he had an issue to troubleshoot.  I'm looking forward to when we all meet in Enid next fall.

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF

On Dec 30, 2017 12:46 PM, "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

The guy I bought it from was Philip Dominito but the builder was Dennis Thomas. Phil and Dennis built two together back in the mid 80’s and they both spent there entire life in Ohio at the airport I was based out of (TDZ). Mine was sitting for about 15 years when I got it. 

Matthew Curcio


On Dec 30, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Good report Matthew! Glad you were successful. 
Who was the previous owner.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Again, congrats, and fly safe.

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 
N7868B 445hrs



On Dec 30, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I made it into California Thursday night. I left Ohio Tuesday morning. It was 4F out in Ohio and Ohio didn’t want me to leave! The airport did their best to keep the runway clear for me but 5” of snow Christmas Eve and strong winds on Christmas made it tough the taxiway from the hangar to the runway had huge drifts so we towed the airplane out to the runway and did my run up and everything there. It was in a heated hangar so It was preflighted, warm and ready to go. There was a lot of clouds and snow to navigate around getting out of Ohio but after a few stops and smooth flying, I made it to Enid well before sundown and was greeted by Bruce Crain.


It was awesome to have a fellow quickie pilot to stay with and made everything so much easier! Thanks again Bruce! Wednesday morning the weather at DHT was IFR and there was no way around it so it made for an easy decision to stick around for the day and diagnose my oil pressure. My oil pressure was always right around 30psi which seemed low for how fresh the engine is. It was 20psi the whole way from Ohio to Enid which was concerning. I suspected and issue with the gauge or relief valve and after verifying the gauge measurement we moved on to the relief valve which had what appeared to be about 5 pieces of very hard dry rubber behind it and at least one of them holding the valve open. Cleaned that out, drained and screened the oil (it was clean) and did a test flight - 42psi sweet!

I had to wait around Enid until 10am to let low ceilings en route to Dalhart open up enough for me to make it there. The weather cleared up halfway to Dalhart. I didn’t think I would make it to Cali with the late start and short day but a nice tailwind most of the day and some quick fuel steps let me make it into glamis just before sunset. As all of you know the scenery from Dalhart to Glamis was pretty incredible. Thanks for all the advice fellas! Happy I didn’t need to use any of my survival gear but it’s great to have it all now. 

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Matthew Curcio


On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Jerry Marstall jerrylm1986@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew should be commended for reaching out to the group seeking information on X-C flying in a Q.  Several lifesaving suggestions were offered.  

Sometimes our egos prevent us from exposing our limitations or lack of knowledge.   Matthew is obviously a confident and competent aviator.

Wishing you a great experience on your flight west.
Jerry 

On Dec 19, 2017 9:33 AM, "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I'm getting ready to make a literal cross country to bring my Q200 out here to Mojave from my previous home airport in Ohio. I'm planning for <2 hour ~300 mile legs and I'm going to go south and around the rockies. Anywho, any Q specific items or tips you all might have for a long cross country? This will be my first time in any cross country venturing more than 3 states from Ohio.


Current List:


Warm clothes and blanket

water for 2 days and a couple of MRE's

Ipad and Iphone with foreflight for NAV and LA VFR sectional

3 Charging cables( for Ipad and Iphone and spare)

Handheld radio

tie downs (can be used for hand propping if need arises)

30ah Lipo battery back - lightweight and can be used for jumpstarting, backup source for charging nav devices, and added battery reserve for fuel pump (I ditched the hand pump in lieu of a redundant electric pump) in the event of an alternator failure.




Matthew Curcio

419.290.3773


Re: Important Items for a Long Cross Country

Paul Fisher
 

Glad you made it safely Matthew.  I figure the reason to carry survival gear is so you never have to use it!  Thanks for letting us know about your success.

And good on you Bruce for hosting Matthew.  I'm sure he was glad to see a friendly face, especially since he had an issue to troubleshoot.  I'm looking forward to when we all meet in Enid next fall.

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF

On Dec 30, 2017 12:46 PM, "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

The guy I bought it from was Philip Dominito but the builder was Dennis Thomas. Phil and Dennis built two together back in the mid 80’s and they both spent there entire life in Ohio at the airport I was based out of (TDZ). Mine was sitting for about 15 years when I got it. 

Matthew Curcio


On Dec 30, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Good report Matthew! Glad you were successful. 
Who was the previous owner.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Again, congrats, and fly safe.

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 
N7868B 445hrs



On Dec 30, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I made it into California Thursday night. I left Ohio Tuesday morning. It was 4F out in Ohio and Ohio didn’t want me to leave! The airport did their best to keep the runway clear for me but 5” of snow Christmas Eve and strong winds on Christmas made it tough the taxiway from the hangar to the runway had huge drifts so we towed the airplane out to the runway and did my run up and everything there. It was in a heated hangar so It was preflighted, warm and ready to go. There was a lot of clouds and snow to navigate around getting out of Ohio but after a few stops and smooth flying, I made it to Enid well before sundown and was greeted by Bruce Crain.


It was awesome to have a fellow quickie pilot to stay with and made everything so much easier! Thanks again Bruce! Wednesday morning the weather at DHT was IFR and there was no way around it so it made for an easy decision to stick around for the day and diagnose my oil pressure. My oil pressure was always right around 30psi which seemed low for how fresh the engine is. It was 20psi the whole way from Ohio to Enid which was concerning. I suspected and issue with the gauge or relief valve and after verifying the gauge measurement we moved on to the relief valve which had what appeared to be about 5 pieces of very hard dry rubber behind it and at least one of them holding the valve open. Cleaned that out, drained and screened the oil (it was clean) and did a test flight - 42psi sweet!

I had to wait around Enid until 10am to let low ceilings en route to Dalhart open up enough for me to make it there. The weather cleared up halfway to Dalhart. I didn’t think I would make it to Cali with the late start and short day but a nice tailwind most of the day and some quick fuel steps let me make it into glamis just before sunset. As all of you know the scenery from Dalhart to Glamis was pretty incredible. Thanks for all the advice fellas! Happy I didn’t need to use any of my survival gear but it’s great to have it all now. 



Matthew Curcio


On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Jerry Marstall jerrylm1986@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew should be commended for reaching out to the group seeking information on X-C flying in a Q.  Several lifesaving suggestions were offered.  

Sometimes our egos prevent us from exposing our limitations or lack of knowledge.   Matthew is obviously a confident and competent aviator.

Wishing you a great experience on your flight west.
Jerry 

On Dec 19, 2017 9:33 AM, "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I'm getting ready to make a literal cross country to bring my Q200 out here to Mojave from my previous home airport in Ohio. I'm planning for <2 hour ~300 mile legs and I'm going to go south and around the rockies. Anywho, any Q specific items or tips you all might have for a long cross country? This will be my first time in any cross country venturing more than 3 states from Ohio.


Current List:


Warm clothes and blanket

water for 2 days and a couple of MRE's

Ipad and Iphone with foreflight for NAV and LA VFR sectional

3 Charging cables( for Ipad and Iphone and spare)

Handheld radio

tie downs (can be used for hand propping if need arises)

30ah Lipo battery back - lightweight and can be used for jumpstarting, backup source for charging nav devices, and added battery reserve for fuel pump (I ditched the hand pump in lieu of a redundant electric pump) in the event of an alternator failure.




Matthew Curcio

419.290.3773


Re: Important Items for a Long Cross Country

Mike Dwyer
 

Matthew,
Great trip report.  Looks like you have an interesting Prop... What is it and do you like the performance?
Happy and Safe New Year!,


Mike Dwyer N3QP Q200

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF



On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 12:22 PM, Jerry Marstall jnmarstall@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

WONDERFUL!!!  Thanks for letting us know your status.  What a great experience.   Wishing you a exciting career in the Mojave.
Jerry







Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...>
Date: 12/30/17 11:12 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Important Items for a Long Cross Country

 

I made it into California Thursday night. I left Ohio Tuesday morning. It was 4F out in Ohio and Ohio didn’t want me to leave! The airport did their best to keep the runway clear for me but 5” of snow Christmas Eve and strong winds on Christmas made it tough the taxiway from the hangar to the runway had huge drifts so we towed the airplane out to the runway and did my run up and everything there. It was in a heated hangar so It was preflighted, warm and ready to go. There was a lot of clouds and snow to navigate around getting out of Ohio but after a few stops and smooth flying, I made it to Enid well before sundown and was greeted by Bruce Crain.


It was awesome to have a fellow quickie pilot to stay with and made everything so much easier! Thanks again Bruce! Wednesday morning the weather at DHT was IFR and there was no way around it so it made for an easy decision to stick around for the day and diagnose my oil pressure. My oil pressure was always right around 30psi which seemed low for how fresh the engine is. It was 20psi the whole way from Ohio to Enid which was concerning. I suspected and issue with the gauge or relief valve and after verifying the gauge measurement we moved on to the relief valve which had what appeared to be about 5 pieces of very hard dry rubber behind it and at least one of them holding the valve open. Cleaned that out, drained and screened the oil (it was clean) and did a test flight - 42psi sweet!

I had to wait around Enid until 10am to let low ceilings en route to Dalhart open up enough for me to make it there. The weather cleared up halfway to Dalhart. I didn’t think I would make it to Cali with the late start and short day but a nice tailwind most of the day and some quick fuel steps let me make it into glamis just before sunset. As all of you know the scenery from Dalhart to Glamis was pretty incredible. Thanks for all the advice fellas! Happy I didn’t need to use any of my survival gear but it’s great to have it all now. 



Matthew Curcio
419-290-3773


On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Jerry Marstall jerrylm1986@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew should be commended for reaching out to the group seeking information on X-C flying in a Q.  Several lifesaving suggestions were offered.  

Sometimes our egos prevent us from exposing our limitations or lack of knowledge.   Matthew is obviously a confident and competent aviator.

Wishing you a great experience on your flight west.
Jerry 

On Dec 19, 2017 9:33 AM, "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I'm getting ready to make a literal cross country to bring my Q200 out here to Mojave from my previous home airport in Ohio. I'm planning for <2 hour ~300 mile legs and I'm going to go south and around the rockies. Anywho, any Q specific items or tips you all might have for a long cross country? This will be my first time in any cross countr



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Re: Important Items for a Long Cross Country

Matthew Curcio
 

The guy I bought it from was Philip Dominito but the builder was Dennis Thomas. Phil and Dennis built two together back in the mid 80’s and they both spent there entire life in Ohio at the airport I was based out of (TDZ). Mine was sitting for about 15 years when I got it. 

Matthew Curcio
419-290-3773


On Dec 30, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Good report Matthew! Glad you were successful. 
Who was the previous owner.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Again, congrats, and fly safe.

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 
N7868B 445hrs



On Dec 30, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I made it into California Thursday night. I left Ohio Tuesday morning. It was 4F out in Ohio and Ohio didn’t want me to leave! The airport did their best to keep the runway clear for me but 5” of snow Christmas Eve and strong winds on Christmas made it tough the taxiway from the hangar to the runway had huge drifts so we towed the airplane out to the runway and did my run up and everything there. It was in a heated hangar so It was preflighted, warm and ready to go. There was a lot of clouds and snow to navigate around getting out of Ohio but after a few stops and smooth flying, I made it to Enid well before sundown and was greeted by Bruce Crain.


It was awesome to have a fellow quickie pilot to stay with and made everything so much easier! Thanks again Bruce! Wednesday morning the weather at DHT was IFR and there was no way around it so it made for an easy decision to stick around for the day and diagnose my oil pressure. My oil pressure was always right around 30psi which seemed low for how fresh the engine is. It was 20psi the whole way from Ohio to Enid which was concerning. I suspected and issue with the gauge or relief valve and after verifying the gauge measurement we moved on to the relief valve which had what appeared to be about 5 pieces of very hard dry rubber behind it and at least one of them holding the valve open. Cleaned that out, drained and screened the oil (it was clean) and did a test flight - 42psi sweet!

I had to wait around Enid until 10am to let low ceilings en route to Dalhart open up enough for me to make it there. The weather cleared up halfway to Dalhart. I didn’t think I would make it to Cali with the late start and short day but a nice tailwind most of the day and some quick fuel steps let me make it into glamis just before sunset. As all of you know the scenery from Dalhart to Glamis was pretty incredible. Thanks for all the advice fellas! Happy I didn’t need to use any of my survival gear but it’s great to have it all now. 

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Matthew Curcio
419-290-3773


On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Jerry Marstall jerrylm1986@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew should be commended for reaching out to the group seeking information on X-C flying in a Q.  Several lifesaving suggestions were offered.  

Sometimes our egos prevent us from exposing our limitations or lack of knowledge.   Matthew is obviously a confident and competent aviator.

Wishing you a great experience on your flight west.
Jerry 

On Dec 19, 2017 9:33 AM, "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I'm getting ready to make a literal cross country to bring my Q200 out here to Mojave from my previous home airport in Ohio. I'm planning for <2 hour ~300 mile legs and I'm going to go south and around the rockies. Anywho, any Q specific items or tips you all might have for a long cross country? This will be my first time in any cross country venturing more than 3 states from Ohio.


Current List:


Warm clothes and blanket

water for 2 days and a couple of MRE's

Ipad and Iphone with foreflight for NAV and LA VFR sectional

3 Charging cables( for Ipad and Iphone and spare)

Handheld radio

tie downs (can be used for hand propping if need arises)

30ah Lipo battery back - lightweight and can be used for jumpstarting, backup source for charging nav devices, and added battery reserve for fuel pump (I ditched the hand pump in lieu of a redundant electric pump) in the event of an alternator failure.




Matthew Curcio

419.290.3773


Re: Important Items for a Long Cross Country

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

WONDERFUL!!!  Thanks for letting us know your status.  What a great experience.   Wishing you a exciting career in the Mojave.
Jerry







Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...>
Date: 12/30/17 11:12 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Important Items for a Long Cross Country

 

I made it into California Thursday night. I left Ohio Tuesday morning. It was 4F out in Ohio and Ohio didn’t want me to leave! The airport did their best to keep the runway clear for me but 5” of snow Christmas Eve and strong winds on Christmas made it tough the taxiway from the hangar to the runway had huge drifts so we towed the airplane out to the runway and did my run up and everything there. It was in a heated hangar so It was preflighted, warm and ready to go. There was a lot of clouds and snow to navigate around getting out of Ohio but after a few stops and smooth flying, I made it to Enid well before sundown and was greeted by Bruce Crain.


It was awesome to have a fellow quickie pilot to stay with and made everything so much easier! Thanks again Bruce! Wednesday morning the weather at DHT was IFR and there was no way around it so it made for an easy decision to stick around for the day and diagnose my oil pressure. My oil pressure was always right around 30psi which seemed low for how fresh the engine is. It was 20psi the whole way from Ohio to Enid which was concerning. I suspected and issue with the gauge or relief valve and after verifying the gauge measurement we moved on to the relief valve which had what appeared to be about 5 pieces of very hard dry rubber behind it and at least one of them holding the valve open. Cleaned that out, drained and screened the oil (it was clean) and did a test flight - 42psi sweet!

I had to wait around Enid until 10am to let low ceilings en route to Dalhart open up enough for me to make it there. The weather cleared up halfway to Dalhart. I didn’t think I would make it to Cali with the late start and short day but a nice tailwind most of the day and some quick fuel steps let me make it into glamis just before sunset. As all of you know the scenery from Dalhart to Glamis was pretty incredible. Thanks for all the advice fellas! Happy I didn’t need to use any of my survival gear but it’s great to have it all now. 



Matthew Curcio
419-290-3773


On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Jerry Marstall jerrylm1986@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew should be commended for reaching out to the group seeking information on X-C flying in a Q.  Several lifesaving suggestions were offered.  

Sometimes our egos prevent us from exposing our limitations or lack of knowledge.   Matthew is obviously a confident and competent aviator.

Wishing you a great experience on your flight west.
Jerry 

On Dec 19, 2017 9:33 AM, "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I'm getting ready to make a literal cross country to bring my Q200 out here to Mojave from my previous home airport in Ohio. I'm planning for <2 hour ~300 mile legs and I'm going to go south and around the rockies. Anywho, any Q specific items or tips you all might have for a long cross country? This will be my first time in any cross countr


Re: Important Items for a Long Cross Country

Kevin Boddicker
 

Good report Matthew! Glad you were successful. 
Who was the previous owner.
Inquiring minds want to know.
Again, congrats, and fly safe.

Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 
N7868B 445hrs



On Dec 30, 2017, at 10:12 AM, Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I made it into California Thursday night. I left Ohio Tuesday morning. It was 4F out in Ohio and Ohio didn’t want me to leave! The airport did their best to keep the runway clear for me but 5” of snow Christmas Eve and strong winds on Christmas made it tough the taxiway from the hangar to the runway had huge drifts so we towed the airplane out to the runway and did my run up and everything there. It was in a heated hangar so It was preflighted, warm and ready to go. There was a lot of clouds and snow to navigate around getting out of Ohio but after a few stops and smooth flying, I made it to Enid well before sundown and was greeted by Bruce Crain.


It was awesome to have a fellow quickie pilot to stay with and made everything so much easier! Thanks again Bruce! Wednesday morning the weather at DHT was IFR and there was no way around it so it made for an easy decision to stick around for the day and diagnose my oil pressure. My oil pressure was always right around 30psi which seemed low for how fresh the engine is. It was 20psi the whole way from Ohio to Enid which was concerning. I suspected and issue with the gauge or relief valve and after verifying the gauge measurement we moved on to the relief valve which had what appeared to be about 5 pieces of very hard dry rubber behind it and at least one of them holding the valve open. Cleaned that out, drained and screened the oil (it was clean) and did a test flight - 42psi sweet!

I had to wait around Enid until 10am to let low ceilings en route to Dalhart open up enough for me to make it there. The weather cleared up halfway to Dalhart. I didn’t think I would make it to Cali with the late start and short day but a nice tailwind most of the day and some quick fuel steps let me make it into glamis just before sunset. As all of you know the scenery from Dalhart to Glamis was pretty incredible. Thanks for all the advice fellas! Happy I didn’t need to use any of my survival gear but it’s great to have it all now. 



Matthew Curcio
419-290-3773


On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Jerry Marstall jerrylm1986@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew should be commended for reaching out to the group seeking information on X-C flying in a Q.  Several lifesaving suggestions were offered.  

Sometimes our egos prevent us from exposing our limitations or lack of knowledge.   Matthew is obviously a confident and competent aviator.

Wishing you a great experience on your flight west.
Jerry 

On Dec 19, 2017 9:33 AM, "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I'm getting ready to make a literal cross country to bring my Q200 out here to Mojave from my previous home airport in Ohio. I'm planning for <2 hour ~300 mile legs and I'm going to go south and around the rockies. Anywho, any Q specific items or tips you all might have for a long cross country? This will be my first time in any cross country venturing more than 3 states from Ohio.


Current List:


Warm clothes and blanket

water for 2 days and a couple of MRE's

Ipad and Iphone with foreflight for NAV and LA VFR sectional

3 Charging cables( for Ipad and Iphone and spare)

Handheld radio

tie downs (can be used for hand propping if need arises)

30ah Lipo battery back - lightweight and can be used for jumpstarting, backup source for charging nav devices, and added battery reserve for fuel pump (I ditched the hand pump in lieu of a redundant electric pump) in the event of an alternator failure.




Matthew Curcio

419.290.3773


Re: Important Items for a Long Cross Country

Matthew Curcio
 

I made it into California Thursday night. I left Ohio Tuesday morning. It was 4F out in Ohio and Ohio didn’t want me to leave! The airport did their best to keep the runway clear for me but 5” of snow Christmas Eve and strong winds on Christmas made it tough the taxiway from the hangar to the runway had huge drifts so we towed the airplane out to the runway and did my run up and everything there. It was in a heated hangar so It was preflighted, warm and ready to go. There was a lot of clouds and snow to navigate around getting out of Ohio but after a few stops and smooth flying, I made it to Enid well before sundown and was greeted by Bruce Crain.

It was awesome to have a fellow quickie pilot to stay with and made everything so much easier! Thanks again Bruce! Wednesday morning the weather at DHT was IFR and there was no way around it so it made for an easy decision to stick around for the day and diagnose my oil pressure. My oil pressure was always right around 30psi which seemed low for how fresh the engine is. It was 20psi the whole way from Ohio to Enid which was concerning. I suspected and issue with the gauge or relief valve and after verifying the gauge measurement we moved on to the relief valve which had what appeared to be about 5 pieces of very hard dry rubber behind it and at least one of them holding the valve open. Cleaned that out, drained and screened the oil (it was clean) and did a test flight - 42psi sweet!

I had to wait around Enid until 10am to let low ceilings en route to Dalhart open up enough for me to make it there. The weather cleared up halfway to Dalhart. I didn’t think I would make it to Cali with the late start and short day but a nice tailwind most of the day and some quick fuel steps let me make it into glamis just before sunset. As all of you know the scenery from Dalhart to Glamis was pretty incredible. Thanks for all the advice fellas! Happy I didn’t need to use any of my survival gear but it’s great to have it all now. 



Matthew Curcio
419-290-3773


On Dec 21, 2017, at 11:40 AM, Jerry Marstall jerrylm1986@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Matthew should be commended for reaching out to the group seeking information on X-C flying in a Q.  Several lifesaving suggestions were offered.  

Sometimes our egos prevent us from exposing our limitations or lack of knowledge.   Matthew is obviously a confident and competent aviator.

Wishing you a great experience on your flight west.
Jerry 

On Dec 19, 2017 9:33 AM, "Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I'm getting ready to make a literal cross country to bring my Q200 out here to Mojave from my previous home airport in Ohio. I'm planning for <2 hour ~300 mile legs and I'm going to go south and around the rockies. Anywho, any Q specific items or tips you all might have for a long cross country? This will be my first time in any cross country venturing more than 3 states from Ohio.


Current List:


Warm clothes and blanket

water for 2 days and a couple of MRE's

Ipad and Iphone with foreflight for NAV and LA VFR sectional

3 Charging cables( for Ipad and Iphone and spare)

Handheld radio

tie downs (can be used for hand propping if need arises)

30ah Lipo battery back - lightweight and can be used for jumpstarting, backup source for charging nav devices, and added battery reserve for fuel pump (I ditched the hand pump in lieu of a redundant electric pump) in the event of an alternator failure.




Matthew Curcio

419.290.3773


Re: MIL-PRF-83282 Brake Fluid

Jay Scheevel
 

I was thinking about using SR-71 fuel. Found some on e-bay.

(Sorry, getting a little giddy around the holidays)

Cheers,
Jay


Re: MIL-PRF-83282 Brake Fluid

britmcman99
 

Some interesting reading from the Cozy builders list on brake fluid:


Some comments by Marc Zeitlin and Bill Allen. 

Phil


On Dec 23, 2017, at 7:58 AM, 'Ryszardzadow@...' ryszardzadow@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I garauntee you there aren’t any o-rings “manufactured for the regular 5606 brake fluid”, but there are many types of o-rings: 

durometer, size and cost.  These parameters will determine the best suited material for an application.  O-rings are available in several different materials such as PTFE, Nitrile (Buna), Neoprene, EPDM Rubber and Fluorocarbon (Viton).  Kalrez ® o-rings and Silicone seals are also widely used in high temperature applications.>


As stated above you should consider the type of o-ring you have when changing fluids because some fluids aren’t comparable. Buna rings are the most susceptible but if you install Viton rings you’ll have little worries with anything. DOT 5 is comparable with just about everything. This is why we changed to DOT5.

You’re correct that you shouldn’t mix fluids. Anytime you change to a different fluid, even if it says it’s comparable it’s highly recommended to flush out the old fluid. DOT5 requires a flush and we also change to Viton o-rings. That pretty much ends any brake fluid issues for a very long time. 

Ryszard 

On Dec 23, 2017, at 8:07 AM, Sam Hoskins sam.hoskins@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Check with the brake manufacturer.  As I seem to recall, the automotive brake fluids are incompatible with brake seals manufactured for the regular 5606 brake fluid and mixing the two can cause brake failures.

Again, get the list of compatible fluids from the brake manufacturer themselves, for the parts you have mounted in their aircraft.

Sam


On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 8:46 AM Mike Dwyer q2pilot@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Hi Jerry.
You really don't want auto transmission fluid.  It flashes into a fire at a very low temperature.  If a brake line busts and you spray oil on the caliper you could lose the plane to a fire.  It has happened to some RV's.  

I read up on the DOT5.  Looks like it is comparable, cheap, and doesn't burn.  I think I'll try that.

Merry Christmas,
Mike



On Dec 23, 2017 8:54 AM, "Jerry Marstall jnmarstall@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Matco told me I could use automatic transmission fluid. So I do. Don't know anything about volitility. Jerry 



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-------- Original message --------
From: "'Ryszardzadow@...' ryszardzadow@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...>
Date: 12/22/17 9:33 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] MIL-PRF-83282 Brake Fluid

 

It does burn. 

Here’s a link to a study of Aviation fluids and their flammability properties. 

I’m surprised how many people stick to expensive, flammable, dangerous “mil-h-xxxx” fluids when a simple solution exists.

 If y’ all aren’t familiar with the CozyJet engine failure and subsequent brake fire you should check out the Rutan Aircraft Flying Experience website, www.RutanAFE.org   There will also be an article on that event coming up in kitplanes so keep your subscriptions current. 

5606 has a flash point of 210F.  DOT 5 Silicon brake fluid has a flash point of about 900F. It is not hydroscopic, which means it will not absorb water and corrode your brake calipers like 5606 will. Which do you want in your Aircraft? 

All the RAFE Aircraft have DOT5 in them. We will never take the chance of a brake fire again.

Ryszard 

On Dec 22, 2017, at 4:54 PM, Charlie oneskydog@aol...com [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Yes, it is and it does not burn. I have had it in my Matco cylinders no problem.

Regards,

Charlie Johnson 


On Dec 22, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Mike Dwyer q2pilot@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

Anybody know if this brake fluid is compatible with our Airhurst gocart brakes?


MIL-PRF-83282D, PERFORMANCE SPECIFICATION: HYDRAULIC FLUID, FIRE RESISTANT, SYNTHETIC HYDROCARBON BASE, NATO CODE NUMBER H-537 (30 SEP 1997) [SUPERSEDING MIL-H-83282C & MIL-H-83282C]., This specification covers the requirements for a synthetic hydrocarbon-base hydraulic fluid for use in the temperature range of -40 deg to +205 deg C. This hydraulic fluid is identified by NATO Code Number H-537.

Flash Point of 424F so this stuff is supposed to prevent brake fires if the hydraulic line snaps.

Thanks,
Mike Q200 N3QP



Re: MIL-PRF-83282 Brake Fluid

Ryszard Zadow
 

I garauntee you there aren’t any o-rings “manufactured for the regular 5606 brake fluid”, but there are many types of o-rings: 

durometer, size and cost.  These parameters will determine the best suited material for an application.  O-rings are available in several different materials such as PTFE, Nitrile (Buna), Neoprene, EPDM Rubber and Fluorocarbon (Viton).  Kalrez ® o-rings and Silicone seals are also widely used in high temperature applications.>


As stated above you should consider the type of o-ring you have when changing fluids because some fluids aren’t comparable. Buna rings are the most susceptible but if you install Viton rings you’ll have little worries with anything. DOT 5 is comparable with just about everything. This is why we changed to DOT5.

You’re correct that you shouldn’t mix fluids. Anytime you change to a different fluid, even if it says it’s comparable it’s highly recommended to flush out the old fluid. DOT5 requires a flush and we also change to Viton o-rings. That pretty much ends any brake fluid issues for a very long time. 

Ryszard 

On Dec 23, 2017, at 8:07 AM, Sam Hoskins sam.hoskins@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Check with the brake manufacturer.  As I seem to recall, the automotive brake fluids are incompatible with brake seals manufactured for the regular 5606 brake fluid and mixing the two can cause brake failures.

Again, get the list of compatible fluids from the brake manufacturer themselves, for the parts you have mounted in their aircraft.

Sam


On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 8:46 AM Mike Dwyer q2pilot@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Hi Jerry.
You really don't want auto transmission fluid.  It flashes into a fire at a very low temperature.  If a brake line busts and you spray oil on the caliper you could lose the plane to a fire.  It has happened to some RV's.  

I read up on the DOT5.  Looks like it is comparable, cheap, and doesn't burn.  I think I'll try that.

Merry Christmas,
Mike



On Dec 23, 2017 8:54 AM, "Jerry Marstall jnmarstall@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Matco told me I could use automatic transmission fluid. So I do. Don't know anything about volitility. Jerry 



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "'Ryszardzadow@...' ryszardzadow@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...>
Date: 12/22/17 9:33 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] MIL-PRF-83282 Brake Fluid

 

It does burn. 

Here’s a link to a study of Aviation fluids and their flammability properties. 

I’m surprised how many people stick to expensive, flammable, dangerous “mil-h-xxxx” fluids when a simple solution exists.

 If y’ all aren’t familiar with the CozyJet engine failure and subsequent brake fire you should check out the Rutan Aircraft Flying Experience website, www.RutanAFE.org   There will also be an article on that event coming up in kitplanes so keep your subscriptions current. 

5606 has a flash point of 210F.  DOT 5 Silicon brake fluid has a flash point of about 900F. It is not hydroscopic, which means it will not absorb water and corrode your brake calipers like 5606 will. Which do you want in your Aircraft? 

All the RAFE Aircraft have DOT5 in them. We will never take the chance of a brake fire again.

Ryszard 

On Dec 22, 2017, at 4:54 PM, Charlie oneskydog@aol..com [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Yes, it is and it does not burn. I have had it in my Matco cylinders no problem.

Regards,

Charlie Johnson 


On Dec 22, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Mike Dwyer q2pilot@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

Anybody know if this brake fluid is compatible with our Airhurst gocart brakes?


MIL-PRF-83282D, PERFORMANCE SPECIFICATION: HYDRAULIC FLUID, FIRE RESISTANT, SYNTHETIC HYDROCARBON BASE, NATO CODE NUMBER H-537 (30 SEP 1997) [SUPERSEDING MIL-H-83282C & MIL-H-83282C]., This specification covers the requirements for a synthetic hydrocarbon-base hydraulic fluid for use in the temperature range of -40 deg to +205 deg C. This hydraulic fluid is identified by NATO Code Number H-537.

Flash Point of 424F so this stuff is supposed to prevent brake fires if the hydraulic line snaps.

Thanks,
Mike Q200 N3QP



Re: MIL-PRF-83282 Brake Fluid

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Thanks Mike



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-------- Original message --------
From: "Mike Dwyer q2pilot@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...>
Date: 12/23/17 9:46 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] MIL-PRF-83282 Brake Fluid

 

Hi Jerry.
You really don't want auto transmission fluid.  It flashes into a fire at a very low temperature.  If a brake line busts and you spray oil on the caliper you could lose the plane to a fire.  It has happened to some RV's.  

I read up on the DOT5.  Looks like it is comparable, cheap, and doesn't burn.  I think I'll try that.

Merry Christmas,
Mike


On Dec 23, 2017 8:54 AM, "Jerry Marstall jnmarstall@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Matco told me I could use automatic transmission fluid. So I do. Don't know anything about volitility. Jerry 



Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: "'Ryszardzadow@...' ryszardzadow@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...>
Date: 12/22/17 9:33 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] MIL-PRF-83282 Brake Fluid

 

It does burn. 

Here’s a link to a study of Aviation fluids and their flammability properties. 

I’m surprised how many people stick to expensive, flammable, dangerous “mil-h-xxxx” fluids when a simple solution exists.

 If y’ all aren’t familiar with the CozyJet engine failure and subsequent brake fire you should check out the Rutan Aircraft Flying Experience website, www.RutanAFE.org   There will also be an article on that event coming up in kitplanes so keep your subscriptions current. 

5606 has a flash point of 210F.  DOT 5 Silicon brake fluid has a flash point of about 900F. It is not hydroscopic, which means it will not absorb water and corrode your brake calipers like 5606 will. Which do you want in your Aircraft? 

All the RAFE Aircraft have DOT5 in them. We will never take the chance of a brake fire again.

Ryszard 

On Dec 22, 2017, at 4:54 PM, Charlie oneskydog@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Yes, it is and it does not burn. I have had it in my Matco cylinders no problem.

Regards,

Charlie Johnson 


On Dec 22, 2017, at 2:23 PM, Mike Dwyer q2pilot@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

Anybody know if this brake fluid is compatible with our Airhurst gocart brakes?


MIL-PRF-83282D, PERFORMANCE SPECIFICATION: HYDRAULIC FLUID, FIRE RESISTANT, SYNTHETIC HYDROCARBON BASE, NATO CODE NUMBER H-537 (30 SEP 1997) [SUPERSEDING MIL-H-83282C & MIL-H-83282C]., This specification covers the requirements for a synthetic hydrocarbon-base hydraulic fluid for use in the temperature range of -40 deg to +205 deg C. This hydraulic fluid is identified by NATO Code Number H-537.

Flash Point of 424F so this stuff is supposed to prevent brake fires if the hydraulic line snaps.

Thanks,
Mike Q200 N3QP



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