Langley_wind_tunnel_on_Q.pdf

Jay Scheevel
Talked to a few people at Kevin’s spring fling about this, but a few pictures are better than a lot of talk. I superimposed some Langley Wind tunnel pics on top of the Q canard so you can see where the turbulent air mass caused by the stall ends up. Obviously over-rotation is not a good thing. This could happen in an accelerated maneuver or on the runway in a Tri-Q. If it happens on the runway (only possible in a Tri-Q), the CG rotates aftward very close to, or perhaps even behind, the main gear axis and there is no recovery except to apply brakes and get the nose back down. PDF attached for your consideration. Cheers, Jay
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Re: Fw: Oil Filter Adaptor
Thanks for sharing! . . . I’m more excited about this picture from Sunday morning at the moment Kr2, L29, stearman, and me in the q.
Matthew Curcio
419-290-3773
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On May 22, 2018, at 09:06, Mike Dwyer q2pilot@... [Q-LIST] < Q-LIST@...> wrote:
Cool, nice place to park it!
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Re: Fw: Oil Filter Adaptor

Mike Dwyer
Cool, nice place to park it!
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Matt, A photo of your airplane made it into GA news...
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Big Muddy Air Race registration is closing soon.

Sam Hoskins
Last call for Big Muddy Air Race registration! The race is on Saturday, June 9. As of this morning, we have 33 racers signed up! I'm going to close registration in a couple of days, so if you want to sign up, SIGN UP NOW! Get all the information and links to the registration here: https://bigmuddyairrace.blogspot.com/
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Re: Fw: Oil Filter Adaptor
Matt, A photo of your airplane made it into GA news...
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On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
This one is largely directed to Bob Farnum ( I don't think I have his contact info) but anyone else who knows please chime in. Bob has the oil filter adaptor on his Q and I believe it was TAF-L model shown here the http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/eppages/fmengadapter.php .
I want to confirm that before I order one. His seemed to fit really nicely and he made a nice setup for cooling the filter in lieu of a traditional oil cooler. I don't want a remote mounted one unless I absolutely have to and my oil cooler has to much cooling
and needs re-worked (for additional reasons) anyways. Thanks
TEMPEST ENGINE MOUNTED OIL FILTER ADAPTER Tempest engine mounted oil filter adapters eliminate the need for oil screens and provide increased filtering capabilities for longer engine life.
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Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
Next year - when you fly in. JM
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-------- Original message -------- From: "'Jay Scheevel SGT' jay@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> Date: 5/21/18 12:02 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Q-LIST@... Subject: RE: [Q-LIST] Scratched - AGAIN
Missed you guys in DEH. I think I was the only one doing the low level scud running this weekend. I did it in a rental car! Paul and Terry got back to Davenport before things got too low on Saturday. We all had plenty to talk about, but not much flying. Paul is still healing up and Terry forgot to bring his passenger saddle. I did stop by and see Terry’s nice Cozy project on my way back to the airport in Moline. He is doing a beautiful job, as expected, but I think he had the plans upside down, because the plane seems to have come out like that, at least to my unpolished eye. Cheers, Jay From: Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 1:05 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Scratched - AGAIN Say Jay it would have been a soupy low level scud run from DEH today to Oklahoma! Not a stupeed as ah look! Imraan and I hosted our own Fly In here at WDG with an airport breakfast and special Ford Tri Motor event.. We had 2 Quickies! All TriQ's! If I can get my TXP antenna fixed I hope to "bomb" the Bi-Plane event in a couple of weekends in northern Kansas. Bruce
---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Jay Scheevel jay@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Scratched - AGAIN Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 09:57:54 -0500 looks like an open VFR corridor all day today and again on Sunday from Oklahoma to Iowa 😀 Of course I can say that since I am flying commercial. Clear and unlimited here in Dallas! Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
"i f quickieaircraft@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
The WX forecast is also Flinging wrenches into my Spring Fling plans. I wish I could have made this one and hope all have fun. I will hang onto my excitement to see you at the next one (Field of Dreams) or sooner.
IF Triq200 65ish hours
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Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Scratched - AGAIN To: Q-LIST@... Date: Thursday, May 17, 2018, 9:39 PM
I think I am chickening out to! The WX looks ruff! Miss you guys!
The Bruski
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Jay Scheevel
Missed you guys in DEH. I think I was the only one doing the low level scud running this weekend. I did it in a rental car! Paul and Terry got back to Davenport before things got too low on Saturday. We all had plenty to talk about, but not much flying. Paul is still healing up and Terry forgot to bring his passenger saddle. I did stop by and see Terry’s nice Cozy project on my way back to the airport in Moline. He is doing a beautiful job, as expected, but I think he had the plans upside down, because the plane seems to have come out like that, at least to my unpolished eye. Cheers, Jay
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From: Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST@...> Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 1:05 PM To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Scratched - AGAIN Say Jay it would have been a soupy low level scud run from DEH today to Oklahoma! Not a stupeed as ah look! Imraan and I hosted our own Fly In here at WDG with an airport breakfast and special Ford Tri Motor event. We had 2 Quickies! All TriQ's! If I can get my TXP antenna fixed I hope to "bomb" the Bi-Plane event in a couple of weekends in northern Kansas. Bruce
---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Jay Scheevel jay@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Scratched - AGAIN Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 09:57:54 -0500 looks like an open VFR corridor all day today and again on Sunday from Oklahoma to Iowa 😀 Of course I can say that since I am flying commercial. Clear and unlimited here in Dallas! Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
"i f quickieaircraft@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
The WX forecast is also Flinging wrenches into my Spring Fling plans. I wish I could have made this one and hope all have fun. I will hang onto my excitement to see you at the next one (Field of Dreams) or sooner.
IF Triq200 65ish hours
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Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Scratched - AGAIN To: Q-LIST@... Date: Thursday, May 17, 2018, 9:39 PM
I think I am chickening out to! The WX looks ruff! Miss you guys!
The Bruski
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Bruce Crain
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Mike Dwyer
Hi Bruce, I tried lots of spots! I ended up with with a flat round "slot type" L-Band antenna in the luggage compartment inside the aircraft. It works great! It sounds like your trying one of those short whip antennas. They are the worst but they work if you put a piece of aluminum for a ground plane. Going to the wing tip is not great, too long a run. Inside the cowl, really bad. Really, check out the slot antennas on eBay, no ground plane needed and it doesn't stick out in the airstream! Bad thing is some need a weird connector ... for the AO912, which I have a spare!
Or serach eBay for
AO912 L-band is a flush mount, annular slot antenna
FYI, this link is to the one I got on eBay for $35! This article LINK talks about the different gains and says a Slot antenna is 2 to 4 db better than a blade antenna. I think the biggest advantage is the Slot type doesn't need a ground plane so is very nice on our plastic airplanes!
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Bruce Crain
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Isn't the most important thing a good ground plane and the proper polarization for reception via a ground station?
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Bruce Crain
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Bruce Crain
Ok here it goes. I moved my TXP antenna from the back of the luggage compartment to right below my knees in the elevator channel. It did not seem to work as well. Maybe it was the close proximity to the engine or something else is effecting it. It just has about a 3' run of coax from the TXP. I was wiping oil off the belly and broke the antenna off. So would the antenna be better off on the wing tips to avoid the clutter of the cockpit? My comm antenna is behind the split line so I want to keep it away from there as much as possible. Any experienced advice is welcome. Bruce Crain ____________________________________________________________ Good Morning America Confirms Unfortunate News greatsuperstars.world http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5b01c4cd9d4e344cd1c90st01vuc
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Re: Just one of the guys, now.

Jim Patillo
Jay, good luck on your upcoming flight. Remember it’s just an airplane.................(that’s never been in the air)🙂.
If things get ugly, just fly the airplane. This will be one of the more memorable events of your life, so don’t pop the cork until you are ready to take a drink!
As you get close to blast off, pressure comes from all different directions to fly, don’t secumb to it. You’ll know when it’s time. Double and tripple check every nut and bolt. Have others you trust eyeball everything. You’ll be fine.
Best, Jim N46JP -Q200
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Re: Just one of the guys, now.
We have been socked in with IFr the last day and a half. Spring Fling is to blame or maybe it's just springtime in the Rockies.
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Sorry I had to leave the Spring Fling early. The weather wasn't improving and I was feeling worse and worse. Weather improved as I got closer to home, but I didn't.
Ja, I'm sorry I didn't get you a ride, but based on my landing at Davenport you are way better off!
Paul N17PF
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Re: Just one of the guys, now.

Jay Scheevel
Hi Paul,
GJT is the plan for the first flight. Working out all the links at Mack, then I will haul it over on the trailer. Are you going to Mack this weekend?. I am I decorah.
Cheers, Jay
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID "wypaul2001@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
Way to go Jay. Are you planning to take it to GJT for your test flights, it is nice having the tower to help keep an eye on you, nice long runway and emergency services. Congratulations way to stick to it Jay
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Re: Just one of the guys, now.
Way to go Jay. Are you planning to take it to GJT for your test flights, it is nice having the tower to help keep an eye on you, nice long runway and emergency services. Congratulations way to stick to it Jay
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Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
You tigers, you. Have fun! Dont worry about me, boohoo, I'll be just fine.
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Paul Fisher rv7a.n18pf@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> Date: 5/18/18 12:29 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Q-LIST@... Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Scratched - AGAIN
Terry and I made it all 112nm from Davenport! Beautiful flight! Even had a ~20knot tailwind!
Paul
looks like an open VFR corridor all day today and again on Sunday from Oklahoma to Iowa 😀 Of course I can say that since I am flying commercial. Clear and unlimited here in Dallas!
Cheers, Jay
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID "i f quickieaircraft@... [Q-LIST]" < Q-LIST@...> wrote:
The WX forecast is also Flinging wrenches into my Spring Fling plans. I wish I could have made this one and hope all have fun. I will hang onto my excitement to see you at the next one (Field of Dreams) or sooner.
IF
Triq200 65ish hours
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Date: Thursday, May 17, 2018, 9:39 PM
I think I am chickening out to! The WX looks ruff!
Miss you guys!
The Bruski
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Jerry, Why are you going to such lengths as
altering the weather, just to avoid me? Sorry we will
miss you this year. More news later....
Cheers,Jay
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Terry and I made it all 112nm from Davenport! Beautiful flight! Even had a ~20knot tailwind!
Paul
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looks like an open VFR corridor all day today and again on Sunday from Oklahoma to Iowa 😀 Of course I can say that since I am flying commercial. Clear and unlimited here in Dallas!
Cheers, Jay
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID "i f quickieaircraft@... [Q-LIST]" < Q-LIST@...> wrote:
The WX forecast is also Flinging wrenches into my Spring Fling plans. I wish I could have made this one and hope all have fun. I will hang onto my excitement to see you at the next one (Field of Dreams) or sooner.
IF
Triq200 65ish hours
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On Thu, 5/17/18, 'jcrain2@...' jcrain2@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Scratched - AGAIN
To: Q-LIST@...
Date: Thursday, May 17, 2018, 9:39 PM
I think I am chickening out to! The WX looks ruff!
Miss you guys!
The Bruski
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Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Scratched - AGAIN
Date: 18 May 2018 00:53:44 +0000
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Jerry, Why are you going to such lengths as
altering the weather, just to avoid me? Sorry we will
miss you this year. More news later....
Cheers,Jay
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