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Flight report

Kevin Boddicker
 

I have not written a flight report for quite some time.

I flew around the pattern on 5-23-19. I had intensions of flying for an hour or so, but once again I lost power shortly after take off. I had been experiencing troubles for the last several months, and attributing it to carb ice. Application of carb heat at times would clear the problem. The previous flight, 5/19/19, the engine missed twice in rapid succession, and then decaying RPM. Carb heat slowly brought the RPM back to normal, 2400 PRM with carb heat applied full throttle. Flew over the airport for half an hour and landed. Nothing abnormal. 
Back to 5-23. Experienced decaying of power at 400’ AGL. Carb heat applied. 2000 RPM was all I could get from her. Enough power to maintain altitude while in slow flight at 100MPH. Was the first time I was ever concerned that I might not make it back to the airport! Good Lord’s will, I did.
Started all the normal troubleshooting activities. Mags, normal. Plugs, serviceable. Carb float setting ok. Fuel flow, 37.5 GPH. Balloon test, passed. Compression, oh shit. #1 80/76  #3 80/60ish leaking by exhaust valve. #4 same as #3. #2 80/60ish leaking by the intake valve. NFG!
It would appear that the engine was trying to tell me that things weren’t right, but I had my mind on carb ice, and not listening. Always easier to trouble shoot after the fact. Maybe that missing in the engine the flight before was a stuck/sticking valve? Carb heat did help. Coincidence? Who the hell knows.
Ordered four new Superior Millennium cylinders, piston pins, and all the gaskets that come with new cyls.
from AS. Had them in five days!
Skipping all the details of removing baffeling, cyls, pistons , etc.
New cyls installed, after Mike, A&P IA gapped the rings. He also set the rocker arm gap. Needed two new push rods, a length thing as I understand it. He also installed the newest carb float recommended, via service bulletin.
Torqued to spec. Baffling reinstalled. A few baffle cracks fixed. New high temp RTV calked in. You get it. 
With Mike on the fire ext. we fired it up. Fired on second blade. Sounded good. 
Flew first flight 6/22/19. About .8 hours using break-in procedures published by Superior. Wanted to fly for two hours, but mother nature sent a small cell right at the airport. Landed and all was well. Flew 1.8 hours on 6/26/19 circling over the airport on both flights. Temp were within recommended ranges. Again following suggested power ranges and time durations recommended. Used about a half quart of oil for both flights .
All is good!
Climb was great. 
Now I need to have the ambient temps get back to a workable range before flying again. Mike recommended not flying in the 90°F+ temps we have been experiencing as of late. No reason the get parts too hot, or have to reduce power to cool things down. Lower power settings will not be good for seating the rings to the cyls. 

Listen to your engine with an open mind. Try to not get fixated on what you might think. In my case carb ice.
If things are abnormal, dig into the beast.




Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   481 hrs
Luana, IA.




Re: Tri-Q Nose gear build directions

ryan goodman
 

You have contact info for Kevin.

On Jul 3, 2019, at 16:09, "Kevin Boddicker trumanst@... [Q-LIST]" <q-list@...> wrote:
 

Scott Swing designed the nose gear. 

Velocity aircraft in Fla. 

I think Richard at Fast Little Planes has the gear legs now. 
You out there Richard?


Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B    481 hrs
Luana, IA.



On Jul 3, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Ryan Goodman elboy0712@... [Q-LIST] < Q-LIST@...> wrote:


Anyone have a diagram or the instructions for building the nose gear of a Tri-Q? I've searched the triq conversion documents over and over and can't seem to find the directions for building the actual nose gear. If anyone has that part would really appreciate it.  

Ryan




Re: Tri-Q Nose gear build directions

Kevin Boddicker
 

Scott Swing designed the nose gear. 
Velocity aircraft in Fla. 

I think Richard at Fast Little Planes has the gear legs now. 
You out there Richard?


Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B    481 hrs
Luana, IA.



On Jul 3, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Ryan Goodman elboy0712@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:


Anyone have a diagram or the instructions for building the nose gear of a Tri-Q? I've searched the triq conversion documents over and over and can't seem to find the directions for building the actual nose gear. If anyone has that part would really appreciate it. 

Ryan




Tri-Q Nose gear build directions

ryan goodman
 

Anyone have a diagram or the instructions for building the nose gear of a Tri-Q? I've searched the triq conversion documents over and over and can't seem to find the directions for building the actual nose gear. If anyone has that part would really appreciate it.

Ryan


Re: Lots of questions.

Allan Farr
 

Could get someone killed? I suspect that the designers knew a bit more than you or I do. I'd be interested in hearing what those who are actually flying with the GU canard have to say, perhaps they don't realise how close to death they are ;)


Re: Tires - Whatcha Got?

Mike Dwyer
 

Try to stick with the same type tires ya got.  I'm still running the Chen Shins, I think they are 500x5's.  I have the small tire option wheel pants and they are real tight.  All 500x5's are not created equal!  Also I run 30 psi in my tires.  I found with  much higher pressures the tires don't absorb much of a landing hit and you bounce up more!
Mike Q200 N3QP

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Re: Tires - Whatcha Got?

Jim Patillo
 

Corbin,

I used the stock “cross hatch” 4 ply tires forever but recently switched to the ribbed 8 ply Tires sold by AC. They are much more robust tires but smaller the dia. tires drop the plane about 1/2”, lowering the canard angle which requires a little more runway for takeoff. That was the only trade off as far as I can tell.

Jim
N46JP - Q200


Re: Tires - Whatcha Got?

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Might want to check the rotors to be assured they are not warped.

 

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Sounds like you have your brake pad issue figured out. If not, I think I have the original Airheart brake pads, never used, from my Q-200 kit and I will see if I can locate them. Tri-Q kit came with its own wheels and brakes.

 

If you really are using 5 X 5.00 tires, the diameter is the critical item to make sure you have the same clearance of the wheel pant to the wheel and the runway. I have put AIR HAWK 500-5 6PLY TIREs on my Tri-Q2. These tires go on same wheel as the Lamb tire. So far, I like the new tires. Don't wear as fast and smooth out some of the cracks in my home runway. The diameter of the whole assembly went from 11" to 13" when I changed from the Lamb tires. The AIR HAWK tire is available from Spruce for $$.

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q@ N8WQ


Re: Tires - Whatcha Got?

c_geiser@...
 

Thanks.....I was considering the AIR HAWK tire so good to know.  


Re: Tires - Whatcha Got?

Jay Scheevel
 

Sounds like you have your brake pad issue figured out. If not, I think I have the original Airheart brake pads, never used, from my Q-200 kit and I will see if I can locate them. Tri-Q kit came with its own wheels and brakes.

If you really are using 5 X 5.00 tires, the diameter is the critical item to make sure you have the same clearance of the wheel pant to the wheel and the runway. I have put AIR HAWK 500-5 6PLY TIREs on my Tri-Q2. These tires go on same wheel as the Lamb tire. So far, I like the new tires. Don't wear as fast and smooth out some of the cracks in my home runway. The diameter of the whole assembly went from 11" to 13" when I changed from the Lamb tires. The AIR HAWK tire is available from Spruce for $$.

Cheers,
Jay Scheevel, Tri-Q@ N8WQ


Re: Tires - Whatcha Got?

c_geiser@...
 

Great thanks.  I will try the soft ones to maintain better performance when colder outside.


Re: Tires - Whatcha Got?

Jim Patillo
 

It really doesn’t matter whether you use soft or hard pads. Their cheap, get both types any try them. I don’t see s lot of difference in performance.

Jim
N46JP - Q200


Re: Tires - Whatcha Got?

c_geiser@...
 

Hey Sam!

Airheart is the company I am speaking with and they are wanting to know which ones (hard or soft).  I think I am going to with soft as it looks to resemble the pads on their now.  

I was back taxiing to depart on my first solo when the brake issue surfaced.  Lots of drag on left side and when we removed the caliper and pads we could see plenty of "gunk" and a very unevenly worn pad.  

Corbin


Re: Tires - Whatcha Got?

Paul Fisher
 

Looks like you've got larger tires than I do.  I use the original 11x4.00-5 size tire inflated to 50 psi.

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF


Re: Tires - Whatcha Got?

Sam Hoskins
 

Corbin.

Forget the hard or soft pads, I think that's old old documentation. Simply get the Airheart pads from wherever you can find them. I think there is an Airhart manufacturer, maybe in Minnesota,? They are also available through go-cart sales organizations.

As for tires, there is a variety of different styles you'll see on aircraft, I use the 8 ply tires formerly called lamb tires.

So, I didn't see your flight report here. What's the deal with that?

Sam 

On Wed, Jul 3, 2019, 2:40 PM c_geiser@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

While working on brakes, it is a good time to replace my tires (500-5).  Any suggestions for brand/model and ply rating?  I think 4 ply is the most common on the Q200's but that's me just going off PSI of 35-40.  I think 6 ply is up to 50psi which I was thinking was getting high for the weight of these planes.


Any suggestions are welcome.


Tires - Whatcha Got?

c_geiser@...
 

While working on brakes, it is a good time to replace my tires (500-5).  Any suggestions for brand/model and ply rating?  I think 4 ply is the most common on the Q200's but that's me just going off PSI of 35-40.  I think 6 ply is up to 50psi which I was thinking was getting high for the weight of these planes.


Any suggestions are welcome.


Replacement Brake Pads - Hard or Soft Linings?

c_geiser@...
 

My brakes are Hurst Airheart 150 x 1 hydraulic caliper brakes and I am wanting to replace the pads.  It looks like the parts diagram shows hard pads (linings) for soft pads and I was curious what most people are using.  I would like to order quickly and get flying again soon. 


Mine is a Q200...


Regards,


Corbin


Re: Lots of questions.

Mike Dwyer
 

Wow Allan,  that's a very general statement that could get someone killed.  One thing I never liked about the GU canard was that the Spar ended 4 feet from the end of the wing and back 20+ years ago I was reading about hard landings breaking the canard at that point.  Ya can't fix that with VG's!
Fly Safe,
Mike Q200 N3QP


Re: Flight Video's

One Sky Dog
 

VG’s work!!! Before I could sense moisture by the stick before mist on the canopy. Standing Puddles would form ahead of the elevator as you get the sinking feeling. With VG’s mist and light rain no problem fine droplets running back no puddles no stick feel.

I think but have not tried just the inside third of the wing might stop the separation bubble from forming at the root and creeping out the elevator.

Charlie 

On Jul 1, 2019, at 5:39 PM, logistics_engineering@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

Your plane had a RevMaster first. (Never ever flew that way).

Mark’s first venture into moisture/rain with GU was interesting. He was in front, we saw a large cloud ahead and headed for it. He started a gradual decent later full stick back, still no joy!  This started about 3 miles from the cloud. As soon as we passed to  the other side, his control returned. He returned and quickly designed 8 vg’s, 4 on either side. He pincil whipped it and declared all was well! (Mark is a uniquely and talented individual).

We flew in this config and saw dramatic improvement in weather.  He later flew the Q out of Truckee for a couple of years before selling it to Martin, a really nice fella.

Jim
N46JP - Q200

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Re: Flight Video's

Jim Patillo
 

Your plane had a RevMaster first. (Never ever flew that way).

Mark’s first venture into moisture/rain with GU was interesting. He was in front, we saw a large cloud ahead and headed for it. He started a gradual decent later full stick back, still no joy! This started about 3 miles from the cloud. As soon as we passed to the other side, his control returned. He returned and quickly designed 8 vg’s, 4 on either side. He pincil whipped it and declared all was well! (Mark is a uniquely and talented individual).

We flew in this config and saw dramatic improvement in weather. He later flew the Q out of Truckee for a couple of years before selling it to Martin, a really nice fella.

Jim
N46JP - Q200

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