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Re: Field Of Dreams 2019!

Bruce Crain
 


Re: Field Of Dreams 2019!

Jay Scheevel
 

Still planning on being there, Bruce. Now I have extra incentive. I am not going to have a “Star Fleet” insignia on the bottom of my wing, but I do have a cute little bird painted on the tail! Flight hours and weather will dictate whether I show up in my plane or by ground transportation and just which day, but plan on me one way or another.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

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Well bring it on BERFC!  You will  not be disappointed!  Lots of folks have already signed up!  I know the $15M movie deal will come along again but you know the available girl thing is expensive.  Just thought I should let you know.  Unless she is a nurse and then she brings along her own "Visible Means Of Support"!  Makes for a wonderful relationship for an aviator with aircraft parts and av gas to buy!  

Bruce Honey Lamb Imraan and Rachel

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Subject: [Q-LIST] Re: Field Of Dreams 2019!
Date: 06 Aug 2019 15:07:36 +0000

 

Howdy Bruce!

 

The Finley/Thayer Bachelor Extraordinaire Review and Flying Circus is scheduled to attend. Of course, the schedules of the rich and famous movie stars (Alan) is always in question. Nonetheless; he has assured me that refusing a $15M movie deal in favor of attending FOD is an easy choice for him.

 

Please be sure to pass the word to all your wealthy, beautiful, and single female friends.

 

 

 

 



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Re: Field Of Dreams 2019!

Bruce Crain
 


Re: Field Of Dreams 2019!

Jon Finley
 

Howdy Bruce!

The Finley/Thayer Bachelor Extraordinaire Review and Flying Circus is scheduled to attend. Of course, the schedules of the rich and famous movie stars (Alan) is always in question. Nonetheless; he has assured me that refusing a $15M movie deal in favor of attending FOD is an easy choice for him.

Please be sure to pass the word to all your wealthy, beautiful, and single female friends.




Field Of Dreams 2019!

Bruce Crain
 


Fw: I built a new Dragonfly!

Bruce Crain
 


Re: Alt Field Circuit Breaker Popping

Rick Hole
 

Si glad you found it and all the more that it was repairable. 
I am sure you made certain the problem will not recur. It’d be a shame to be “bit” by the same snake twice!

Rick Hole


Re: Alt Field Circuit Breaker Popping

Corbin Geiser <c_geiser@...>
 

Success!!  One of the brushes inside the alternator was grounding itself.  Fixed that, installed it and now I’m getting strong voltage and strong amps and the breaker is not popping!!

Now I just need to learn how to adjust throttle to idle....

Corbin

On Aug 3, 2019, at 12:15 AM, Corbin Geiser c_geiser@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Hey Dave - great minds think alike.  I found a guy that is willing to take a look this morning.   I’ll be running it by there to have it tested.

Corbin

On Aug 2, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Dave Dugas davedq2@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

This is just a suggestion.....what I would do. If you have a shop near you that can bench test your alternator and repair if necessary, then I would take it there. Up here in Massachusetts there are quite a few. If you can't find a shop near you, you could ship it here and I can take it to someone that does a great job. Seems to me that it would save a lot of time, and either eliminate or confirm a defective alternator. Good luck... Dave D



On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 6:13 PM, Corbin Geiser c_geiser@... [Q-LIST]
<Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Mike - forgive me but trying to understand.  When you say A+ are you referring to the Alt field terminal?  Assuming so, if I attach a battery charger to the Alt Field post do I ground to Alt Grnd or engine grnd or does it matter which?  Also, how would the battery charger show any current without the alternator connected to ship power?

Corbin Ge!ser

On August 2, 2019 at 2:57 PM, "q2pilot@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Woa there.  Your Regulator is special.  It has a crowbar circuit.  You did not successfully test the crowbar circuit.  ; 


Here is a way to do that test.  In your airplane, take the big A+ wire off the alternator and apply 14 volts to the A+ wire post on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  With the Alternator switch "Off" are you drawing any current from the powersupply?  The answer should be no.  If yes, then your alternator is bad, likely shorted diode.

Next apply 14 volts to the A+ wire that is no longer on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  Turn "On" the alternator switch.  The current out of the powersupply should be 0.  If it reads 1 or 2 amps or the 5 Amp breaker blows then your Regulator crowbar circuit is bad.< /div>

Can you take that regulator apart?  It is probably fixable for a lot less $ than a new one.

My money is on the regulator being bad...

Good Luck,
Mike N3QP Q200

  



Re: Alt Field Circuit Breaker Popping

Corbin Geiser <c_geiser@...>
 

Hey Dave - great minds think alike.  I found a guy that is willing to take a look this morning.   I’ll be running it by there to have it tested.

Corbin

On Aug 2, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Dave Dugas davedq2@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

This is just a suggestion.....what I would do. If you have a shop near you that can bench test your alternator and repair if necessary, then I would take it there. Up here in Massachusetts there are quite a few. If you can't find a shop near you, you could ship it here and I can take it to someone that does a great job. Seems to me that it would save a lot of time, and either eliminate or confirm a defective alternator. Good luck... Dave D



On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 6:13 PM, Corbin Geiser c_geiser@... [Q-LIST]
<Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Mike - forgive me but trying to understand.  When you say A+ are you referring to the Alt field terminal?  Assuming so, if I attach a battery charger to the Alt Field post do I ground to Alt Grnd or engine grnd or does it matter which?  Also, how would the battery charger show any current without the alternator connected to ship power?

Corbin Ge!ser

On August 2, 2019 at 2:57 PM, "q2pilot@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Woa there.  Your Regulator is special.  It has a crowbar circuit.  You did not successfully test the crowbar circuit.  ; 


Here is a way to do that test.  In your airplane, take the big A+ wire off the alternator and apply 14 volts to the A+ wire post on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  With the Alternator switch "Off" are you drawing any current from the powersupply?  The answer should be no.  If yes, then your alternator is bad, likely shorted diode.

Next apply 14 volts to the A+ wire that is no longer on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  Turn "On" the alternator switch.  The current out of the powersupply should be 0.  If it reads 1 or 2 amps or the 5 Amp breaker blows then your Regulator crowbar circuit is bad.< /div>

Can you take that regulator apart?  It is probably fixable for a lot less $ than a new one.

My money is on the regulator being bad...

Good Luck,
Mike N3QP Q200

  



Re: Alt Field Circuit Breaker Popping

Dave Dugas
 

This is just a suggestion.....what I would do. If you have a shop near you that can bench test your alternator and repair if necessary, then I would take it there. Up here in Massachusetts there are quite a few. If you can't find a shop near you, you could ship it here and I can take it to someone that does a great job. Seems to me that it would save a lot of time, and either eliminate or confirm a defective alternator. Good luck... Dave D


On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 6:13 PM, Corbin Geiser c_geiser@... [Q-LIST]
wrote:
 

Mike - forgive me but trying to understand.  When you say A+ are you referring to the Alt field terminal?  Assuming so, if I attach a battery charger to the Alt Field post do I ground to Alt Grnd or engine grnd or does it matter which?  Also, how would the battery charger show any current without the alternator connected to ship power?

Corbin Ge!ser

On August 2, 2019 at 2:57 PM, "q2pilot@... [Q-LIST]" wrote:

 

Woa there.  Your Regulator is special.  It has a crowbar circuit.  You did not successfully test the crowbar circuit.  


Here is a way to do that test.  In your airplane, take the big A+ wire off the alternator and apply 14 volts to the A+ wire post on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  With the Alternator switch "Off" are you drawing any current from the powersupply?  The answer should be no.  If yes, then your alternator is bad, likely shorted diode.

Next apply 14 volts to the A+ wire that is no longer on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  Turn "On" the alternator switch.  The current out of the powersupply should be 0.  If it reads 1 or 2 amps or the 5 Amp breaker blows then your Regulator crowbar circuit is bad.< /div>

Can you take that regulator apart?  It is probably fixable for a lot less $ than a new one.

My money is on the regulator being bad...

Good Luck,
Mike N3QP Q200

  



Re: Alt Field Circuit Breaker Popping

Corbin Geiser <c_geiser@...>
 

Wonderful.  Thank you!

Corbin

On Aug 2, 2019, at 6:36 PM, q2pilot@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

The field is typically called F.

The main power out (60 amps) is called A+

So no, don't connect the battery charger to the field.

Now that we understand the terms, re-read what I sent.

I just don't want you to be like an auto mechanic that just replaces parts until it starts working.  It's too expensive!

Mike Q200 N3QP


---In Q-LIST@..., wrote :

Oh wait......I got it now.  Battery charger used to send power to Alt Field and then gives a draw or not.  I think I understand.  :)

Corbin Ge!ser

On August 2, 2019 at 4:29 PM, Corbin Geiser wrote:

Mike - forgive me but trying to understand.  When you say A+ are you referring to the Alt field terminal?  Assuming so, if I attach a battery charger to the Alt Field post do I ground to Alt Grnd or engine grnd or does it matter which?  Also, how would the battery charger show any current without the alternator connected to ship power?

Corbin Ge!ser

On August 2, 2019 at 2:57 PM, "q2pilot@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Woa there.  Your Regulator is special.  It has a crowbar circuit.  You did not successfully test t he crowbar circuit.  


Here is a way to do that test.  In your airplane, take the big A+ wire off the alternator and apply 14 volts to the A+ wire post on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  With the Alternator switch "Off" are you drawing any current from the powersupply?  The answer should be no.  If yes, then your alternator is bad, likely shorted diode.

Next apply 14 volts to the A+ wire that is no longer on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  Turn "On" the alternator switch.  The current out of the powersupply should be 0.  If it reads 1 or 2 amps or the 5 Amp breaker blows then your Regulator crowbar circuit is bad.< /div>

Can you take that regulator apart?  It is probably fixable for a lot less $ than a new one.

My money is on the regulator being bad...

Good Luck,
Mike N3QP Q200

  



Re: Alt Field Circuit Breaker Popping

Mike Dwyer
 

The field is typically called F.
The main power out (60 amps) is called A+

So no, don't connect the battery charger to the field.

Now that we understand the terms, re-read what I sent.

I just don't want you to be like an auto mechanic that just replaces parts until it starts working.  It's too expensive!

Mike Q200 N3QP


---In Q-LIST@..., <c_geiser@...> wrote :

Oh wait......I got it now.  Battery charger used to send power to Alt Field and then gives a draw or not.  I think I understand.  :)

Corbin Ge!ser

On August 2, 2019 at 4:29 PM, Corbin Geiser <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Mike - forgive me but trying to understand.  When you say A+ are you referring to the Alt field terminal?  Assuming so, if I attach a battery charger to the Alt Field post do I ground to Alt Grnd or engine grnd or does it matter which?  Also, how would the battery charger show any current without the alternator connected to ship power?

Corbin Ge!ser

On August 2, 2019 at 2:57 PM, "q2pilot@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Woa there.  Your Regulator is special.  It has a crowbar circuit.  You did not successfully test the crowbar circuit.  


Here is a way to do that test.  In your airplane, take the big A+ wire off the alternator and apply 14 volts to the A+ wire post on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  With the Alternator switch "Off" are you drawing any current from the powersupply?  The answer should be no.  If yes, then your alternator is bad, likely shorted diode.

Next apply 14 volts to the A+ wire that is no longer on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  Turn "On" the alternator switch.  The current out of the powersupply should be 0.  If it reads 1 or 2 amps or the 5 Amp breaker blows then your Regulator crowbar circuit is bad.< /div>

Can you take that regulator apart?  It is probably fixable for a lot less $ than a new one.

My money is on the regulator being bad...

Good Luck,
Mike N3QP Q200

  



Re: Alt Field Circuit Breaker Popping

Corbin Geiser <c_geiser@...>
 

Oh wait......I got it now.  Battery charger used to send power to Alt Field and then gives a draw or not.  I think I understand.  :)

Corbin Ge!ser

On August 2, 2019 at 4:29 PM, Corbin Geiser wrote:

Mike - forgive me but trying to understand.  When you say A+ are you referring to the Alt field terminal?  Assuming so, if I attach a battery charger to the Alt Field post do I ground to Alt Grnd or engine grnd or does it matter which?  Also, how would the battery charger show any current without the alternator connected to ship power?

Corbin Ge!ser

On August 2, 2019 at 2:57 PM, "q2pilot@... [Q-LIST]" wrote:

 

Woa there.  Your Regulator is special.  It has a crowbar circuit.  You did not successfully test the crowbar circuit.  


Here is a way to do that test.  In your airplane, take the big A+ wire off the alternator and apply 14 volts to the A+ wire post on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  With the Alternator switch "Off" are you drawing any current from the powersupply?  The answer should be no.  If yes, then your alternator is bad, likely shorted diode.

Next apply 14 volts to the A+ wire that is no longer on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  Turn "On" the alternator switch.  The current out of the powersupply should be 0.  If it reads 1 or 2 amps or the 5 Amp breaker blows then your Regulator crowbar circuit is bad.< /div>

Can you take that regulator apart?  It is probably fixable for a lot less $ than a new one.

My money is on the regulator being bad...

Good Luck,
Mike N3QP Q200

  



Re: Alt Field Circuit Breaker Popping

Corbin Geiser <c_geiser@...>
 

Mike - forgive me but trying to understand.  When you say A+ are you referring to the Alt field terminal?  Assuming so, if I attach a battery charger to the Alt Field post do I ground to Alt Grnd or engine grnd or does it matter which?  Also, how would the battery charger show any current without the alternator connected to ship power?

Corbin Ge!ser

On August 2, 2019 at 2:57 PM, "q2pilot@... [Q-LIST]" wrote:

 

Woa there.  Your Regulator is special.  It has a crowbar circuit.  You did not successfully test the crowbar circuit.  


Here is a way to do that test.  In your airplane, take the big A+ wire off the alternator and apply 14 volts to the A+ wire post on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  With the Alternator switch "Off" are you drawing any current from the powersupply?  The answer should be no.  If yes, then your alternator is bad, likely shorted diode.

Next apply 14 volts to the A+ wire that is no longer on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  Turn "On" the alternator switch.  The current out of the powersupply should be 0.  If it reads 1 or 2 amps or the 5 Amp breaker blows then your Regulator crowbar circuit is bad.< /div>

Can you take that regulator apart?  It is probably fixable for a lot less $ than a new one.

My money is on the regulator being bad...

Good Luck,
Mike N3QP Q200

  



Re: Alt Field Circuit Breaker Popping

Mike Dwyer
 

Woa there.  Your Regulator is special.  It has a crowbar circuit.  You did not successfully test the crowbar circuit.  

Here is a way to do that test.  In your airplane, take the big A+ wire off the alternator and apply 14 volts to the A+ wire post on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  With the Alternator switch "Off" are you drawing any current from the powersupply?  The answer should be no.  If yes, then your alternator is bad, likely shorted diode.

Next apply 14 volts to the A+ wire that is no longer on the alternator with a powersupply (battery charger should work).  Turn "On" the alternator switch.  The current out of the powersupply should be 0.  If it reads 1 or 2 amps or the 5 Amp breaker blows then your Regulator crowbar circuit is bad.

Can you take that regulator apart?  It is probably fixable for a lot less $ than a new one.

My money is on the regulator being bad...

Good Luck,
Mike N3QP Q200

  


Re: Alt Field Circuit Breaker Popping

Corbin Geiser <c_geiser@...>
 

Update:  I was able to complete the steps recommended by Rick/Sonia and it points towards alternator as bad.  The breaker did not trip after the last step of disconnecting the alt field wire from alternator.  

I’m confident my (our) troubleshooting justifies trying a replacement alternator now!

Getting close!

Corbin

On Jul 31, 2019, at 11:05 AM, logistics_engineering@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Btw it also tripped the 5a alt. field breaker on the panel and turned on the amber low volt alarm each time. That’s what started my electrical quest.

Jim
N46JP-0200


Re: Mandatory International flight plan?

Bruce Crain
 


Re: Mandatory International flight plan?

Paul Fisher
 

It is just the FORMAT of the flight plan that has to follow the ICAO standards instead of the old domestic (US only) format.  So IF you file a flight plan, it must be in that new format.  The rules for when and if you file are not changing.

Yes, this change has been in the works for some time.  The implementation date has slipped several times, but its been coming.

I use fltplan.com to file all of my flight plans.  Once you get your aircraft defined, they take care of getting it filed in the proper format.  I haven't had any problems with them.  I suppose I should confess that I only file flight plans when I fly IFR.  I haven't filed a VFR flight plan for probably thirty years! (Yes, I know -shame on me!)

Paul

On Wed, Jul 31, 2019, 23:58 'jcrain2@...' jcrain2@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Does anyone know anything about this note from the FAA.  It says it will start August 27, 2019.  It states that it will be mandatory that you fill out an International Flight plan if are an IFR or VFR domestic or international civil flight!
Did they just sneak this in or has it been coming for a while.
FAA notice NOTC9616
I  hope this is not going to happen in the US!  Somebody fill me in please!
 
Bruce Crain


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Re: Mandatory International flight plan?

victor taylor
 

It only means that all flights that you would normally file a flight plan will be done with the international flight plan now. You are still not required to file for VFR unless in an ADIZ or crossing a border. 

Victor Taylor CFII
Velocity 93 DV


On Aug 1, 2019, at 02:01, 'jcrain2@...' jcrain2@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Does anyone know anything about this note from the FAA.  It says it will start August 27, 2019.  It states that it will be mandatory that you fill out an International Flight plan if are an IFR or VFR domestic or international civil flight!
Did they just sneak this in or has it been coming for a while.
FAA notice NOTC9616
I  hope this is not going to happen in the US!  Somebody fill me in please!
 
Bruce Crain


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