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What about insurance cost???

Rik W
 

Just keeping in line with gathering info...


What is the average cost to insure, gotta believe that since airports require it that it's possible to get, for liability?

Rik


Re: Pattern Speeds for the Q200

Mike Dwyer
 

Final is the important one.  Over the fence I'm looking for 85 mph single place, 90 mph two place.  5 mph too fast =1000' before you touch down.  Downwind, 120 mph is typical for me.
Mike Q200 N3QP


Re: Pattern Speeds for the Q200

Jay Scheevel
 

I have started using lower speeds on downwind and base in order to keep my final consistent, so I carry 100 downwind, 95 base and 90 on final almost to the runway. According to my efis download files, my best landings are touching the runway at just under 80 during the flare (all numbers MPH indicated).

Cheers,
Jay N8WQ

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"Corbin Geiser c_geiser@... [Q-LIST]" <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

Same as Paul, for me.

Corbin

On Aug 23, 2019, at 5:20 PM, Paul Fisher rv7a.n18pf@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

  

Add 10mph for me (120, 100, 90). Touch down is about 80, although I'm too busy to know for sure!

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF ~1650 hours over 29 years (tail dragger, LS1 canard)

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 17:13 my_name_is_rik@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Just searching for information.


What are the pattern speeds you use, downwind, base and final?


Reading.. The Q200's stall at like 70 mph so are your pattern speeds 110, 90 and 80 over the #'s?


Rik


Re: Pattern Speeds for the Q200

Jim Patillo
 

Ditto!

Jim
N46JP -Q200


Re: Pattern Speeds for the Q200

Corbin
 

Same as Paul, for me.

Corbin

On Aug 23, 2019, at 5:20 PM, Paul Fisher rv7a.n18pf@... [Q-LIST] wrote:

  

Add 10mph for me (120, 100, 90). Touch down is about 80, although I'm too busy to know for sure!

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF ~1650 hours over 29 years (tail dragger, LS1 canard)

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 17:13 my_name_is_rik@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Just searching for information.


What are the pattern speeds you use, downwind, base and final?


Reading.. The Q200's stall at like 70 mph so are your pattern speeds 110, 90 and 80 over the #'s?


Rik


Re: Pattern Speeds for the Q200

Paul Fisher
 

Add 10mph for me (120, 100, 90). Touch down is about 80, although I'm too busy to know for sure!

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF ~1650 hours over 29 years (tail dragger, LS1 canard)


On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 17:13 my_name_is_rik@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Just searching for information.


What are the pattern speeds you use, downwind, base and final?


Reading.. The Q200's stall at like 70 mph so are your pattern speeds 110, 90 and 80 over the #'s?


Rik


Pattern Speeds for the Q200

Rik W
 

Just searching for information.


What are the pattern speeds you use, downwind, base and final?


Reading.. The Q200's stall at like 70 mph so are your pattern speeds 110, 90 and 80 over the #'s?


Rik


Re: Alaska

Sam Hoskins
 

Matthew, I just watched your PowerPoint. You had one hell of an adventure!

Sam 

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019, 9:25 AM Matthew Curcio mlcurcio89@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

I actually made a power point of my trip for a lunch and learn at work shortly after. It has a lot of good details and links on route planning, weather etc. as well as a bunch of pictures. It actually has some stuff on my 48 state trip I took with the q the week after getting back from Alaska. The link is below (too big to attach)

It was by far my most enjoyable flying experience to date. I'll caveat that with the statement that had I not had hundreds of hours in the months leading up to it getting comfortable with my bird and flying in adverse weather and terrain, it would have been one of the more miserable, stressful experiences ever.



From: Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST@...> on behalf of Shaun Milke shaun_milke@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 8:42 AM
To: Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST@...>
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Alaska
 
 

I flew my Quickie up last year, Matt Curcio brought his up this year. He had done some write ups for the Q-list at the time. The trip can be cool or not so cool, be sure to take lots of good juju. If you get serious about it get in touch with me.

Shaun


From: Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST@...> on behalf of Mike Neidenthal n7000t@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 4:16:27 PM
To: Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Alaska
 
 

Hi,
I heard someone here did a Alaska trip. Is there any way getting the story about that?
Thanks
Mike Neidenthal



Re: Lightning Detector

Richard Thomson
 

Ryszard,

Don't forget that the Quickie's LS 1 Canard has Carbon spars.

I have a periscope vent on my header which has a metal tube inside, which other Q's have I believe, but my EMH guy says its a perfect spot for any lightning to stick to and hard to bond down.

The modern plastic airliners use isolators in the pipes to stop lightning penetrating the carbon tanks.

Richard T


Re: Short Q200 Flight video

Jim Patillo
 

Bernie Warnke was a true craftsman.His daughter Marge not quite as good as her father but she still made a nice prop.

Jim
N46JP - Q200


Re: Dynon

Sam Hoskins
 

While racing, at WOT I top out at 3,100 RPM. This gives me a TAS of 211 mph.

I usually cruise at 2,800 or so RPM, and that yields 185-190 mph. 


On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 2:39 AM qplustwo@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:
 

Sam,

What is your personal max RPM with that setup at sea level and cruise? Do you go higher for races or keep it the same all the time?

Thanks,
-MD


Re: Dynon

Q plusTwo
 

Sam,

What is your personal max RPM with that setup at sea level and cruise? Do you go higher for races or keep it the same all the time?

Thanks,
-MD


Re: Short Q200 Flight video

Q plusTwo
 

32 laminations(!) on a wood prop? Now that is some dedicated craftsmanship!

-MD


Re: Lightning Detector

Rik W
 

Being this is weather related. How many people fly their Q200 in IMC?


Re: Alaska

 

Shaun,
Thanks and will do

Mike


On Aug 22, 2019, at 5:42 AM, Shaun Milke shaun_milke@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...> wrote:

 

I flew my Quickie up last year, Matt Curcio brought his up this year. He had done some write ups for the Q-list at the time. The trip can be cool or not so cool, be sure to take lots of good juju. If you get serious about it get in touch with me.

Shaun


From: Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST@...> on behalf of Mike Neidenthal n7000t@... [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@...>
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 4:16:27 PM
To: Q-LIST@... <Q-LIST@...>
Subject: [Q-LIST] Alaska
 
 

Hi,
I heard someone here did a Alaska trip. Is there any way getting the story about that?
Thanks
Mike Neidenthal



Re: Lightning Detector

Ryszard Zadow
 


Sid Sidiqi, did a tremendous amount of lighting strike analysis on composite airframes decades ago for NASA. I don't have his reports at my finger tips and I'm about out the door to start day two of this trip, but what I recall is if the lighting has no path to follow, ie, something metal, it will just go right through. I remember seeing pictures of about a basketball sized holeright through the Glassair wing they were using. 

My point is the lighting will not "blow us up" because we are a composite structure. It will take the path of something metal. In this case the aileron system. Its highly likely the inflight break-up was a structural failure induced by the ailerons failing. Lightning can be very loud but ask anyone that was present at Reno the year the wing failed on a F1 racer during qualifications, they'll say it sounded like a cannon going off. It was heard in the F1 hangar. As per the witnesses accounts, the combined effect of the lighting and wing failure was probably very loud. 

Lastly, the comment about carbon fiber spar caps.. unless the EZ or Quickie builder deviated significantly from the plans, there should be no carbon fiber there,. 

Ryszard

On ‎Thursday‎, ‎August‎ ‎22‎, ‎2019‎ ‎10‎:‎39‎:‎11‎ ‎AM‎ ‎CDT, q2pilot@... [Q-LIST] wrote:


 

Always good to call someones statement so I did a search.


Aircraft Disintegrated.

Near strike, lived.

I may just search the FAA database.

I suspect if you take a direct hit while flying it will be very bad day for you.

Fly Safe,
Mike 


Re: Lightning Detector

Mike Dwyer
 

Always good to call someones statement so I did a search.

Aircraft Disintegrated.

Near strike, lived.

I may just search the FAA database.

I suspect if you take a direct hit while flying it will be very bad day for you.

Fly Safe,
Mike 


Re: Lightning Detector

Rob de Bie
 

As far as I know, the 'exploding' mostly occurs
on carbon spar caps. They are conductive, but
with a high resistance / impedance. That heats up
the carbon, and makes the absorbed water boil
instantly. That can blow up the spar cap, and is the 'exploding'.

Rob

At 16:44 22 08 2019, you wrote:
<This means if you get hit, your plane will basically explode in the air. >

If you research the Canard Pusher newsletters
you’ll find reports of EZs that have been
struck by lighting and they did not “basically explode�.

Ryszard

On Aug 22, 2019, at 09:33,
q2pilot@hotmail.com [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

This means if you get hit, your plane will basically explode in the air.


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Re: Lightning Detector

Ryszard Zadow
 

<This means if you get hit, your plane will basically explode in the air. >

If you research the Canard Pusher newsletters you’ll find reports of EZs that have been struck by lighting and they did not “basically explode”.

Ryszard

On Aug 22, 2019, at 09:33, q2pilot@hotmail.com [Q-LIST] <Q-LIST@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

This means if you get hit, your plane will basically explode in the air.


Re: Alaska

Matthew Curcio
 

I actually made a power point of my trip for a lunch and learn at work shortly after. It has a lot of good details and links on route planning, weather etc. as well as a bunch of pictures. It actually has some stuff on my 48 state trip I took with the q the week after getting back from Alaska. The link is below (too big to attach)

It was by far my most enjoyable flying experience to date. I'll caveat that with the statement that had I not had hundreds of hours in the months leading up to it getting comfortable with my bird and flying in adverse weather and terrain, it would have been one of the more miserable, stressful experiences ever.



From: Q-LIST@... on behalf of Shaun Milke shaun_milke@... [Q-LIST]
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2019 8:42 AM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: Re: [Q-LIST] Alaska
 
 

I flew my Quickie up last year, Matt Curcio brought his up this year. He had done some write ups for the Q-list at the time. The trip can be cool or not so cool, be sure to take lots of good juju. If you get serious about it get in touch with me.

Shaun


From: Q-LIST@... on behalf of Mike Neidenthal n7000t@... [Q-LIST] Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 4:16:27 PM
To: Q-LIST@...
Subject: [Q-LIST] Alaska
 
 

Hi,
I heard someone here did a Alaska trip. Is there any way getting the story about that?
Thanks
Mike Neidenthal


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