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Re: Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
ryan goodman
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Re: Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
I've not flown with another prop besides the MT on my TriQ. So I couldn't tell you what the top speed difference would be. I cruise around 150 to 160 on a good day which is fairly good for a TriQ 200.
Bruce
---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Rik W via Groups.Io" <my_name_is_rik@...> To: main@q-list.groups.io,  <main@Q-List.groups.io> Subject: Re: [Q-List] Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 23:15:02 +0000 (UTC) I was thinking more along the lines of a IVOPROP.  Magnum 2 blade electric in flight adjust is $3080 and weighs 24.2 lbs. I have no idea as to what a prop your using now weighs.
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On Friday, December 13, 2019, 12:41:35 PM PST, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
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I have an MT Propeller and really like flying with it. It is heavier than a wood prop so there is a trade off. It really helps with fuel burn if you want to oversquare Manifold pressure and lower rpms. It also has been a great help with high mountain altitude airport take off's. I can dial in 2700 rpm for take off which helps a bunch. I also don't have to keep torquing the wood prop hub as the MT is metal. If you build a really light weight Q200 it would be a great help with all of these respects. There is a trade off for extra weight though.
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---------- Original Message ---------- From: "charlie" <ffmd@...> To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 11:56:57 -0500 It would be an electric prop such as Airmaster, https://www.propellor.com/ Can you install a Constant Speed Propeller upon an IO-200?
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Re: Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
I have a Prince fixed pitch, which seems to perform well. It has some aeroelastic properties that help with performance across a wider speed range. Other prop makers have done some of this as well. Advantage is it weighs 7 pounds. Mine hedges towards a climb pitch and I sacrifice some speed, but I can get out of a 2500' runway at 9000 DA. Cheers, Jay N8WQ Cheers, Jay Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID "Rik W via Groups.Io" <my_name_is_rik@...> wrote: I was thinking more along the lines of a IVOPROP.  Magnum 2 blade electric in flight adjust is $3080 and weighs 24.2 lbs. I have no idea as to what a prop your using now weighs. Could it aid in top speed? Reply To: My_Name_is_Rik@...
On Friday, December 13, 2019, 12:41:35 PM PST, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
I have an MT Propeller and really like flying with it. It is heavier than a wood prop so there is a trade off. It really helps with fuel burn if you want to oversquare Manifold pressure and lower rpms. It also has been a great help with high mountain altitude airport take off's. I can dial in 2700 rpm for take off which helps a bunch. I also don't have to keep torquing the wood prop hub as the MT is metal. If you build a really light weight Q200 it would be a great help with all of these respects. There is a trade off for extra weight though.
Bruce Crain ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "charlie" <ffmd@...> To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 11:56:57 -0500 It would be an electric prop such as Airmaster, https://www.propellor.com/ Can you install a Constant Speed Propeller upon an IO-200?
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Re: Quickie Q200 Props
Rik W
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On Friday, December 13, 2019, 03:39:33 PM PST, charlie <ffmd@...> wrote:
Props such as the Ivoprop and warp drive are very old airfoil / blade
technology and do not have enough twist for high speed operation. They
are best left for slower low to mid powered planes. To the question if they could aid in top speed, I doubt it, but they would be fine for takeoff and climb out. Probably quite helpful in landing with their '80s tech airfoils. These fall into, you get what you pay for. CN At 11:15 PM 12/13/2019 +0000, you wrote: I was thinking more along the lines of a IVOPROP. Magnum 2 blade electric in flight adjust is $3080 and weighs 24.2 lbs. I have no idea as to what a prop your using now weighs.
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Re: Quickie Q200 Props
charlie
Props such as the Ivoprop and warp drive are very old airfoil / blade
technology and do not have enough twist for high speed operation. They
are best left for slower low to mid powered planes.
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To the question if they could aid in top speed, I doubt it, but they would be fine for takeoff and climb out. Probably quite helpful in landing with their '80s tech airfoils. These fall into, you get what you pay for. CN
At 11:15 PM 12/13/2019 +0000, you wrote: I was thinking more along the lines of a IVOPROP. Magnum 2 blade electric in flight adjust is $3080 and weighs 24.2 lbs. I have no idea as to what a prop your using now weighs.
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Re: Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
Rik W
I was thinking more along the lines of a IVOPROP.  Magnum 2 blade electric in flight adjust is $3080 and weighs 24.2 lbs. I have no idea as to what a prop your using now weighs. Could it aid in top speed? Reply To: My_Name_is_Rik@...
On Friday, December 13, 2019, 12:41:35 PM PST, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:
I have an MT Propeller and really like flying with it. It is heavier than a wood prop so there is a trade off. It really helps with fuel burn if you want to oversquare Manifold pressure and lower rpms. It also has been a great help with high mountain altitude airport take off's. I can dial in 2700 rpm for take off which helps a bunch. I also don't have to keep torquing the wood prop hub as the MT is metal. If you build a really light weight Q200 it would be a great help with all of these respects. There is a trade off for extra weight though.
Bruce Crain ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "charlie" <ffmd@...> To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 11:56:57 -0500 It would be an electric prop such as Airmaster, https://www.propellor.com/ Can you install a Constant Speed Propeller upon an IO-200?
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Re: Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
I have an MT Propeller and really like flying with it. It is heavier than a wood prop so there is a trade off. It really helps with fuel burn if you want to oversquare Manifold pressure and lower rpms. It also has been a great help with high mountain altitude airport take off's. I can dial in 2700 rpm for take off which helps a bunch. I also don't have to keep torquing the wood prop hub as the MT is metal. If you build a really light weight Q200 it would be a great help with all of these respects. There is a trade off for extra weight though.
Bruce CrainÂ
---------- Original Message ---------- From: "charlie" <ffmd@...> To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: Re: [Q-List] Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 11:56:57 -0500 It would be an electric prop such as Airmaster, https://www.propellor.com/ Can you install a Constant Speed Propeller upon an IO-200?
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Re: Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
Martin Skiby
Check your weight and balance REAL carefully if you do. CS props can be very heavy with the extra stuff in the hub. You may end up with a very heavy plane with adding weight in the tail and that will significantly slow you down also. So there may be no net benefit. That is my opinion.
----------------------------------------- From: "Rik W via Groups.Io"To: main@q-list.groups.io Cc: Sent: Friday December 13 2019 8:41:08AM Subject: Re: [Q-List] Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested Can you install a Constant Speed Propeller upon an IO-200? If so, what would that do for top speeds and takeoff? Rik
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Re: Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
Mike Dwyer
At $8,500 or so it's a bit pricey for me.
On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 11:57 AM charlie <ffmd@...> wrote:
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Re: Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
charlie
It would be an electric prop such as Airmaster,
https://www.propellor.com/
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I personally feel it would offer a substantial improvement due to the airframes wide speed range not to mention the blade selection offering more modern technology. CharlieN
At 04:41 PM 12/13/2019 +0000, you wrote: Can you install a Constant Speed Propeller upon an IO-200?
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Re: Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
Rik W
Can you install a Constant Speed Propeller upon an IO-200? If so, what would that do for top speeds and takeoff? Rik
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Re: Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
Jerry Marstall
Good stuff. Thx Corbin
On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 11:57 AM Rick Hole <r.hole@...> wrote:
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Re: Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
Rick Hole
Red Green would be proud of you 🙂
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Sonia and Rick Hole
On Dec 12, 2019, at 9:19 AM, Corbin via Groups.Io <c_geiser@...> wrote:
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Re: Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
Thank you for this feedback! This one is fuel injected so I definitely could look into your #1 below. I think an engine monitor should be my next upgrade; right after ADSB-Out.  Thanks again! Corbin Ge!ser
On December 12, 2019 at 9:54 AM, Peter Le Lievre <peter@...> wrote:
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Re: Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
Peter Le Lievre
Great video, thanks Corbin.
Your fuel burn rates are great. The only way to make them better involves making your plane more complicated (and less reliable) so its hard to argue with your plane just as it is. I fly a TSIO520P which does offer better fuel burn (lb/hp) but only when LOP. This requires: 1. tuned individual cylinder injection which a carbureted engine does not have. 2. multipoint engine monitor which I do recommend for any plane. 3.higher EGT which reduces exhaust system and exhaust valve life 4. CS Prop for lower cruise RPM. A lot more complication and perhaps greater engine maintenance costs. I like the Q200 alternative which reverts to he simplest engine possible and instead gets great mileage and speed by adopting the cleanest airframe possible. Nice! I also noted your liftoff speeds are very low and highlights the truth in any plane, which is when you fly at partial weights, your t/o and landing performances are much better. The old criticism of canards needing lots of runway apply more when flown at gross weight. Lighter weights make for a very attractive performer. And no flaps to worry about (and no gear either!). Perfect! Thanks again for the video. Helps me dream of taking on my own Q project.
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Re: Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
Thanks Jay!  Funny thing is that I ended up using duct tape to hold it overnight but was worried if I put that in the video I would get the keyboard warriors responding. It is interesting the kind of stuff people will focus on once it is out there on YouTube. Thanks for watching! Corbin Ge!ser
On December 12, 2019 at 9:14 AM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:
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Re: Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
Hey Corbin,  Very nice video. You do a lot of work to make a very watchable video. Only one comment. Duct Tape! Could have used duct tape to hold the heating pad in place while it cured. 😊 I love duct Tape.   Cheers, Jay N8WQ Â
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 6:14 AM To: main@Q-List.groups.io Subject: [Q-List] Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested  Good morning all,  I uploaded a new video last Friday and thought some here might be interested in watching.     Corbin Ge!ser
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Quickie Q200 Video for Those Interested
Good morning all, I uploaded a new video last Friday and thought some here might be interested in watching.  Corbin Ge!ser
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Re: Tuft Testing Pants & differential brakes
charlie
We should probably check if the duplicate photos are and issue these days.
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When we all started this electronic journey our photos were quite small and storage space was tiny. We used to count kilobites. Now storage space is counted in Gigabites and a thousand old photos hardly makes a dent in storage. Granted I am not the one to say so but in my own forums we hardly even notice a few hundred images especially what today in considered low resolution. It may be that someday the duplicates may become the only ones as we see so many be cleared out without our desire or permission. CharlieN
At 10:26 AM 12/10/2019 -0600, you wrote:
Thank you, Jay. Interesting photos from Larry's project, thanks for posting them.
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Re: Tuft Testing Pants & differential brakes
Thanks Sam. I think you will have to remove the photos from that file. I do not have permission to do that. I think it is best to leave it in the photo album. I put an explanation in the album description. Â Cheers, Jay Â
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Hoskins  Thank you, Jay. Interesting photos from Larry's project, thanks for posting them.  In the interest of conserving digital bits, it would probably be best to remove the photos in the Files section, so we don't have duplicates. I am open to suggestions for better ways of handling photos and files.  BTW, in the old Yahoo! group there was an automatic notifications when new files or photos were uploaded. With this new system that doesn't happen, so you did the right thing by announcing the new album, and posting the link.  There is a lot of flexibility in handling the photos. If you go the edit portion for each photo you can add a description, Might be handy for us.  Sam   On Tue, Dec 10, 2019 at 10:13 AM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:
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