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Re: What are you using for Vno, Max structural cruise speed in your Q2xx or Tri-Q2xx? #poll

Phil Lankford
 

Knots or miles? 


On Jan 6, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



A new poll has been created:

What are you using for Vno, Max structural cruise speed in your Q2xx or Tri-Q2xx?

Pick the range that captures the Top of your green arc (CAS-mph).

1. 130-140
2. 140-150
3. 150 or higher

Vote Now


Re: What are you using for Vno, Max structural cruise speed in your Q2xx or Tri-Q2xx? #poll

Phil Lankford
 

Sorry never mind. I see mph 


On Jan 6, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



A new poll has been created:

What are you using for Vno, Max structural cruise speed in your Q2xx or Tri-Q2xx?

Pick the range that captures the Top of your green arc (CAS-mph).

1. 130-140
2. 140-150
3. 150 or higher

Vote Now


What are you using for Vno, Max structural cruise speed in your Q2xx or Tri-Q2xx? #poll

Jay Scheevel
 

What are you using for Vno, Max structural cruise speed in your Q2xx or Tri-Q2xx?

Pick the range that captures the Top of your green arc (CAS-mph).

Results

See Who Responded


No ADS-B

Delaine Bowen
 

Anyone needing to fly in airspace requiring ADS-B out and not having it, the following link might be useful.

https://www.faa.gov/nextgen/equipadsb/adapt/


Re: 2020

Jim Patillo
 

Hi John,

My airplane serial # is 2468 and I used the 46 from that. Yes I am a septuagenarian 💥
But still feel 46!😎
Jim
N46JP Q200

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of John Hoxie via Groups.Io <hoxdesigns@...>
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 10:13:55 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] 2020
 
Hey Jim,
I have seen your name a long time. In your N number, I see your initials. Is 46 your birth year-making you 73?

 
John Hoxie
He is no fool, who gives up what he can not keep, to gain what he can not loose -- Jim Elliot


On Tuesday, December 31, 2019, 10:22:26 PM MST, Jim Patillo <logistics_engineering@...> wrote:


Good evening everyone!

I would like to wish you all a Very Happy 2020 New Year from sunny California. I flew thru “B” space today with no issues on my ADSB  which seems to be working as advertised.

Its really nice to see you youngsters taking on the Quickie and realizing what a fun airplane it is.  Some of us have had the privilege for a long time. 
The question is who will be first to post the first flight of 2020. 

Jim
N46JP - Q200
Lotsa hours



Re: January 1st 2020 Flight

Michel Royer
 

I would of answer "Quicker"   ;) 


Re: January 1st 2020 Flight

 

Hi Jim,
That trip is still on my line. Not ever sure about the max mess.   I’ll contact you a little closer to finalize 

Mike


On Jan 2, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_Engineering@...> wrote:



Hi Mike,

I am with you. I really hope our friend will let go of his really nice Q200 and you get to enjoy it. I haven’t seen him around the airport lately. Are you still planning on coming to LVK on the 23rd. for a ride?

Any idea of when you will be driving a Max 8 again?
They’ve been parked to long. 

Jim
N46JP Q200


Re: January 1st 2020 Flight

Jim Patillo
 

Hi Mike,

I am with you. I really hope our friend will let go of his really nice Q200 and you get to enjoy it. I haven’t seen him around the airport lately. Are you still planning on coming to LVK on the 23rd. for a ride?

Any idea of when you will be driving a Max 8 again?
They’ve been parked to long. 

Jim
N46JP Q200


Re: Starting a 0-200A in cold temps

Bruce Crain
 

Or you could go with and electronic ignition and any fuel you send up the spider will ignite.  Easy starts and maybe a bit better fuel burn at LOP.
Bruce


On Jan 2, 2020, at 8:56 AM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:


So I reported that I couldn't start my engine below 70F.
My setup was:  MA3SPA carb with the throttle pump primer that squirted fuel onto the carb throttle plate.  My starting Procedure on cold days was Two pumps of the Throttle.  Pull through 8 blades by hand.  Jump in the plane and One more pump before engine cranking.  Full Rich, no carb heat.

I changed my system by taking the output from the Cab throttle pump and splitting it into 4 lines that ran to cly intake valve (low pressure side).  On Millennium Cyls there is a 1/8 pipe plug at this point.  I can now start without any pulling through of the propeller.  My new procedure is Push the throttle in and out a couple of times (this shoots gas in the intake valve areas and the throttle plate) then Pull the starter.  I have the old pull type starter so I need one hand on that.  I might try Matt's crank while prime but I'm a little afraid of having the throttle wide open when it fires...  

Priming all 4 Cyls like I'm currently doing requires lots of 1/8" dia copper plumbing and fittings... If blowing fuel on the spider works as well as Matt says, that would probably be the way to go.  I will give that a try!

Matthew Curcio has the same carb and it sounds like he plumbed the primer outlet from the carb to the spider.  He reports:  I’ve started in 25*f temps without pre-heat.  For cold starts I start with throttle closed, hit the starter and then pump the throttle quickly 1-3 times (depending on oat temps 90f-25f respectively), when I’m done with the pumping I come back to throttle slightly cracked and she fires up immediately. All of that takes place in less than 2-3 revolutions and I don’t have any power surge or coughing on start up just a smooth 800rpm or so. My engine starts as smoothly as a fuel injected car.


Fly Safe in 2020!
Mike Dwyer

YouTube Videos: https://goo.gl/yKEHfK
Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF



Starting a 0-200A in cold temps

Mike Dwyer
 

So I reported that I couldn't start my engine below 70F.
My setup was:  MA3SPA carb with the throttle pump primer that squirted fuel onto the carb throttle plate.  My starting Procedure on cold days was Two pumps of the Throttle.  Pull through 8 blades by hand.  Jump in the plane and One more pump before engine cranking.  Full Rich, no carb heat.

I changed my system by taking the output from the Cab throttle pump and splitting it into 4 lines that ran to cly intake valve (low pressure side).  On Millennium Cyls there is a 1/8 pipe plug at this point.  I can now start without any pulling through of the propeller.  My new procedure is Push the throttle in and out a couple of times (this shoots gas in the intake valve areas and the throttle plate) then Pull the starter.  I have the old pull type starter so I need one hand on that.  I might try Matt's crank while prime but I'm a little afraid of having the throttle wide open when it fires...  

Priming all 4 Cyls like I'm currently doing requires lots of 1/8" dia copper plumbing and fittings... If blowing fuel on the spider works as well as Matt says, that would probably be the way to go.  I will give that a try!

Matthew Curcio has the same carb and it sounds like he plumbed the primer outlet from the carb to the spider.  He reports:  I’ve started in 25*f temps without pre-heat.  For cold starts I start with throttle closed, hit the starter and then pump the throttle quickly 1-3 times (depending on oat temps 90f-25f respectively), when I’m done with the pumping I come back to throttle slightly cracked and she fires up immediately. All of that takes place in less than 2-3 revolutions and I don’t have any power surge or coughing on start up just a smooth 800rpm or so. My engine starts as smoothly as a fuel injected car.


Fly Safe in 2020!
Mike Dwyer

YouTube Videos: https://goo.gl/yKEHfK
Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


Re: 2020 Flight Report.

Matthew Curcio
 

Mike,

What was your starting procedure prior to installing the primer? I have The same carb but with primer plummed at the intake spider. I haven’t used the primer basically ever and I’ve started in 25*f temps (with and without pre-heat). For cold starts I start with throttle closed, hit the starter and then pump the throttle quickly 1-3 times (depending on oat temps 90f-25f respectively), when I’m done with the pumping I come back to throttle slightly cracked and she fires up immediately. All of that takes place in less than 2-3 revolutions and I don’t have any power surge or coughing on start up just a smooth 800rpm or so. My engine starts as smoothly as a fuel injected car. I personally don’t believe in putting fuel in an induction system when there is no induced air flow unless there is no other option for starting. It seems like every experienced aviator has a firsthand story or two of watching an airplane catch on fire do to careless priming (which often means following the poh). I’ll add that from what I have observed, engine start is second only to landing in terms of its ability to act as a proxy to a persons proficiency in a particular airplane. 

Matthew Curcio
419-290-3773


On Jan 1, 2020, at 16:11, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:


Hi Paul,
No video this time.  The low pass would have been cool tho.  KPSG tower seems to like me doing that cause I think it gets pretty boring in the tower.
Fly Safe! 
Mike Dwyer

YouTube Videos: https://goo.gl/yKEHfK
Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 7:03 PM Paul Poulsen <paul.poulsen1957@...> wrote:
Hi Mike, 
Did you video the flight? :) sounds like a great trip. bad smoke from the bushfires up North and high temps (40+C) flying has been out of the question. but this will pass.
Clear skies
Paul

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 8:41 AM Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:
Wow, it's been a poor couple of weeks for flying here in the Tampa FL area.  Either fog, low clouds, very windy...  But today Jan 1 dawned with severe blue sky's and 6 knots of wind.  The Q200 was fueled and oiled.  Tire pressure was checked and engine ready to fire up.  The engine temp showed 60F.  I'm running a MA3SPA carb and previously had no primer system.  I could never start the engine below 70F.  This year I plumbed primer fuel from the carb to the ports on the Milinium cylinders.  A couple of pumps and wow the engine started and ran well.  No hint of wanting to die, love my new primer.  Very few hangar doors are open and the usually busy airport is pretty dead.  Called ground and started taxi to rwy 4.  It took a while for the oil to warm to 100F.  A big airliner took off from 36 so others were stuck there holding short for wake turbulence.  I called the tower for takeoff and got cleared to KSPG.  We were planning to do a low pass there.  The air was a bit bumpy but not bad.  KSPG was a little busy but told me to slow down and maybe it will work out.  I stayed at 1000 feet and slowed to about 100 knots.  Then just a 1/2 mile from 36 the tower clears me for a low approach so I point the nose down and add power.  Probably going 170 knots over the runway.  Popped back up and headed for the Skyway bridge, then to Egmont Key, onto Ft Desoto park, up the beaches to Clearwater.  The visability was excellent, probably 40 miles.  Headed back to KPIE and landed back on rwy 4 with a 6 knot crosswind from the left.  It was a nice flight to start 2020!

Mike Dwyer
Q200  N3QP



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Re: 2020 Flight Report.

Richard Thomson
 

Hey Mike,

Now that is an interesting report.

FN is now at the airport, doing the last checks and set up, then fuel tests and first run of the 0200 since rebuild. Getting closer each day.

I am just interested in your decision to fit primer on, will be interesting to see if my  system using the same carb will have the same problems you have experienced?.

We shall see.  What exhaust set up are you using?


Happy New Year and Happy Landings to all Q Listers.

Rich T

UK.


Re: January 1st 2020 Flight

 

Jim,
I hope to have a January 1st story like yours next year:)

Mike. Q200wannabe 


On Jan 1, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_Engineering@...> wrote:



Arrived at LVK at 9:00 am for my first flight of the year. Short takeoff roll, early turn out and  climb to 7,500 ft. Cruise @ 196 mph east bound to the Sierras Mountains and Yosemite National Park. Lotta snow in the mountains.

Controllers were having a good time and a lot of one liners when I left.  Proceeded to Yosemite and made a couple turns around Half Dome. Didn’t  see anyone on the face. 

Direct back to LVK @190 mph. A controller buddy  cut me in in front of a Velocity making pretty good speed on A VFR final.

When the Velocity pulled up to the gas pit, his first words were damn that thing is fast! What is it? I just smiled and said Quickie. Happy New Year!

Jim
N46JP - Q200

 


January 1st 2020 Flight

Jim Patillo
 

Arrived at LVK at 9:00 am for my first flight of the year. Short takeoff roll, early turn out and  climb to 7,500 ft. Cruise @ 196 mph east bound to the Sierras Mountains and Yosemite National Park. Lotta snow in the mountains.

Controllers were having a good time and a lot of one liners when I left.  Proceeded to Yosemite and made a couple turns around Half Dome. Didn’t  see anyone on the face. 

Direct back to LVK @190 mph. A controller buddy  cut me in in front of a Velocity making pretty good speed on A VFR final.

When the Velocity pulled up to the gas pit, his first words were damn that thing is fast! What is it? I just smiled and said Quickie. Happy New Year!

Jim
N46JP - Q200

 


Re: 2020 Flight Report.

 

Hope y'all had a good holiday season.
Down South from Davenport but up from Tampa, Terre Haute IN was good
to go. Wind 200 @15 w/ gust to 20, 20 degrees off Rwy 23.
Got in several T & Go's to broaden my envelope in the Thorp. The
Quickie sat patiently in the hangar awaiting it's turn....but not
today.
If correct I think that's the first time I've flown on a New Years
day. If I had of before it would have been a loooong time ago.

Wife served brisket w/ cauliflower & mashed potato's for supper
telling me that it's an old wise tale passed down from her mom for
google luck.
MAY BE!! Not being a cauliflower guy I ate it anyway. One never knows.

Keith Welsh
Quickie N494K
Thorp N9MR

On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 4:41 PM Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Wow, it's been a poor couple of weeks for flying here in the Tampa FL area. Either fog, low clouds, very windy... But today Jan 1 dawned with severe blue sky's and 6 knots of wind. The Q200 was fueled and oiled. Tire pressure was checked and engine ready to fire up. The engine temp showed 60F. I'm running a MA3SPA carb and previously had no primer system. I could never start the engine below 70F. This year I plumbed primer fuel from the carb to the ports on the Milinium cylinders. A couple of pumps and wow the engine started and ran well. No hint of wanting to die, love my new primer. Very few hangar doors are open and the usually busy airport is pretty dead. Called ground and started taxi to rwy 4. It took a while for the oil to warm to 100F. A big airliner took off from 36 so others were stuck there holding short for wake turbulence. I called the tower for takeoff and got cleared to KSPG. We were planning to do a low pass there. The air was a bit bumpy but not bad. KSPG was a little busy but told me to slow down and maybe it will work out. I stayed at 1000 feet and slowed to about 100 knots. Then just a 1/2 mile from 36 the tower clears me for a low approach so I point the nose down and add power. Probably going 170 knots over the runway. Popped back up and headed for the Skyway bridge, then to Egmont Key, onto Ft Desoto park, up the beaches to Clearwater. The visability was excellent, probably 40 miles. Headed back to KPIE and landed back on rwy 4 with a 6 knot crosswind from the left. It was a nice flight to start 2020!

Mike Dwyer
Q200 N3QP


Re: 2020

Jim Patillo
 

Hi John,
The “46” in my tail number is part of my serial #2468. Yes I am a Septuagenarian. 

Jim
N46JP Q200

 


Re: 2020 Flight Report.

Matthew Curcio
 

I got my first flight in for the decade. I’ve been down with the flu since Just after Christmas and the runway has been snowed in until yesterday so I finally made it back from my holiday travels (stayed with some family in the meantime). It was a 65mph headwind the whole way home with some of the gnarliest turbulence I’ve experienced but a beautiful sunset at the end.  


Matthew Curcio
419-290-3773


On Jan 1, 2020, at 16:03, Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:

 Nice report Mike!
We had mild temps today, I had plenty of time for flying, but the wind was direct cross. 15 gusting to 20 KTS. Stayed home. Be better days ahead.
All the best in 2020! To all the listers.


Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   496 hrs
Luana, IA.



On Jan 1, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Wow, it's been a poor couple of weeks for flying here in the Tampa FL area.  Either fog, low clouds, very windy...  But today Jan 1 dawned with severe blue sky's and 6 knots of wind.  The Q200 was fueled and oiled.  Tire pressure was checked and engine ready to fire up.  The engine temp showed 60F.  I'm running a MA3SPA carb and previously had no primer system.  I could never start the engine below 70F.  This year I plumbed primer fuel from the carb to the ports on the Milinium cylinders.  A couple of pumps and wow the engine started and ran well.  No hint of wanting to die, love my new primer.  Very few hangar doors are open and the usually busy airport is pretty dead.  Called ground and started taxi to rwy 4.  It took a while for the oil to warm to 100F.  A big airliner took off from 36 so others were stuck there holding short for wake turbulence.  I called the tower for takeoff and got cleared to KSPG.  We were planning to do a low pass there.  The air was a bit bumpy but not bad.  KSPG was a little busy but told me to slow down and maybe it will work out.  I stayed at 1000 feet and slowed to about 100 knots.  Then just a 1/2 mile from 36 the tower clears me for a low approach so I point the nose down and add power.  Probably going 170 knots over the runway.  Popped back up and headed for the Skyway bridge, then to Egmont Key, onto Ft Desoto park, up the beaches to Clearwater.  The visability was excellent, probably 40 miles.  Headed back to KPIE and landed back on rwy 4 with a 6 knot crosswind from the left.  It was a nice flight to start 2020!

Mike Dwyer
Q200  N3QP


Re: 2020

Jim Patillo
 


Re: 2020 Flight Report.

Jay Scheevel
 

Good report, Mike. We had fresh snow today, so no flying. Maybe this weekend will work. Happy new year everyone!

Cheers,
Jay

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:

Nice report Mike!
We had mild temps today, I had plenty of time for flying, but the wind was direct cross. 15 gusting to 20 KTS. Stayed home. Be better days ahead.
All the best in 2020! To all the listers.


Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   496 hrs
Luana, IA.



On Jan 1, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Wow, it's been a poor couple of weeks for flying here in the Tampa FL area.  Either fog, low clouds, very windy...  But today Jan 1 dawned with severe blue sky's and 6 knots of wind.  The Q200 was fueled and oiled.  Tire pressure was checked and engine ready to fire up.  The engine temp showed 60F.  I'm running a MA3SPA carb and previously had no primer system.  I could never start the engine below 70F.  This year I plumbed primer fuel from the carb to the ports on the Milinium cylinders.  A couple of pumps and wow the engine started and ran well.  No hint of wanting to die, love my new primer.  Very few hangar doors are open and the usually busy airport is pretty dead.  Called ground and started taxi to rwy 4.  It took a while for the oil to warm to 100F.  A big airliner took off from 36 so others were stuck there holding short for wake turbulence.  I called the tower for takeoff and got cleared to KSPG.  We were planning to do a low pass there.  The air was a bit bumpy but not bad.  KSPG was a little busy but told me to slow down and maybe it will work out.  I stayed at 1000 feet and slowed to about 100 knots.  Then just a 1/2 mile from 36 the tower clears me for a low approach so I point the nose down and add power.  Probably going 170 knots over the runway.  Popped back up and headed for the Skyway bridge, then to Egmont Key, onto Ft Desoto park, up the beaches to Clearwater.  The visability was excellent, probably 40 miles.  Headed back to KPIE and landed back on rwy 4 with a 6 knot crosswind from the left.  It was a nice flight to start 2020!

Mike Dwyer
Q200  N3QP


Re: 2020 Flight Report.

Paul Poulsen
 

Dang,

How cool doing a beat up WITH permission 😊 they crack a bag (get angry) when I do it..party poopers 😊

Clear skies matey

Paul

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mike Dwyer
Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2020 11:11 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] 2020 Flight Report.

 

Hi Paul,

No video this time.  The low pass would have been cool tho.  KPSG tower seems to like me doing that cause I think it gets pretty boring in the tower.

Fly Safe! 

Mike Dwyer

 

YouTube Videos: https://goo.gl/yKEHfK

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF

 

 

On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 7:03 PM Paul Poulsen <paul.poulsen1957@...> wrote:

Hi Mike, 

Did you video the flight? :) sounds like a great trip. bad smoke from the bushfires up North and high temps (40+C) flying has been out of the question. but this will pass.

Clear skies

Paul

 

On Thu, Jan 2, 2020 at 8:41 AM Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Wow, it's been a poor couple of weeks for flying here in the Tampa FL area.  Either fog, low clouds, very windy...  But today Jan 1 dawned with severe blue sky's and 6 knots of wind.  The Q200 was fueled and oiled.  Tire pressure was checked and engine ready to fire up.  The engine temp showed 60F.  I'm running a MA3SPA carb and previously had no primer system.  I could never start the engine below 70F.  This year I plumbed primer fuel from the carb to the ports on the Milinium cylinders.  A couple of pumps and wow the engine started and ran well.  No hint of wanting to die, love my new primer.  Very few hangar doors are open and the usually busy airport is pretty dead.  Called ground and started taxi to rwy 4.  It took a while for the oil to warm to 100F.  A big airliner took off from 36 so others were stuck there holding short for wake turbulence.  I called the tower for takeoff and got cleared to KSPG.  We were planning to do a low pass there.  The air was a bit bumpy but not bad.  KSPG was a little busy but told me to slow down and maybe it will work out.  I stayed at 1000 feet and slowed to about 100 knots.  Then just a 1/2 mile from 36 the tower clears me for a low approach so I point the nose down and add power.  Probably going 170 knots over the runway.  Popped back up and headed for the Skyway bridge, then to Egmont Key, onto Ft Desoto park, up the beaches to Clearwater.  The visability was excellent, probably 40 miles.  Headed back to KPIE and landed back on rwy 4 with a 6 knot crosswind from the left.  It was a nice flight to start 2020!

 

Mike Dwyer

Q200  N3QP


 

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