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Re: Considering Very First Composite Project - Guidance Appreciated

Mike Conlin
 

I've got a q2/revmaster cowling that has a  landing light installed. It's been  in the attic for 20years. I can take a few inside outside pics.
-also had a tri q back in the  90s that had one...more of a taxi light than landing. May have some pics of that somewhere. 
Mike Conlin 



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From: Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...>
Date: 1/21/20 10:28 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Considering Very First Composite Project - Guidance Appreciated

It would be nice to hear from guys that actually installed a landing light on their Q and if they really got benefit from it.

I’ve never had one on my Q and have landed it many times in the dark., never saw a need. We were taught to land with no lights .......... just in case.

Jim
N46JP - Q200

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Corbin via Groups.Io <c_geiser@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 7:33:36 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Considering Very First Composite Project - Guidance Appreciated
 
Thanks guys!  I’m starting to think this is doable and within reason.  I’ll start with practicing on hearing/bending plexiglass while designing a hole to cut in lower cowling.

I have the light and mount already.

Corbin

On Jan 21, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Following Sam's plan, you can shape the Plexiglas to a compound curve, matching that of your cowl cutout by using a heat gun and gentle pressure with your hands (where leather gloves). Once you have it shaped, you can trim it to the shape of the hole. You may want to lay up a lip around the hole, if you want the plex to bond flush to the cowl, or just bond the plex to the inside of the cowling, in front of the light.

Cheers,
Jay

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Orange

Kevin Boddicker
 

Looks like Dave and Rod will have a new 5000’ runway soon.
Will the AP be closed during the renovation ?
Kevin


Re: Replace Axle Rod

Bruce Crain
 

Isn’t there an AN bolt that length that you can just order?  Might be stronger and more resistant to corrosion?


On Jan 30, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Jerry Gmail <jerrylm1986@...> wrote:


What is the size and length?

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 11:01 AM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:
Hi Corbin,

Checked all over and at the hangar, but no luck finding those extra axle bolts.  Here is a link that may be of help. If it is not exactly what you want, then search a little more on McMaster Carr site and you will find exactly the right size rod and the steel you want. Also, they make very nice dies if you want to by one for cutting your own threads.

https://www.mcmaster.com/threaded-rods

Cheers,
Jay




Re: Replace Axle Rod

Jerry Marstall
 

What is the size and length?


On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 11:01 AM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:
Hi Corbin,

Checked all over and at the hangar, but no luck finding those extra axle bolts.  Here is a link that may be of help. If it is not exactly what you want, then search a little more on McMaster Carr site and you will find exactly the right size rod and the steel you want. Also, they make very nice dies if you want to by one for cutting your own threads.

https://www.mcmaster.com/threaded-rods

Cheers,
Jay


Re: Replace Axle Rod

Corbin
 

Haha....so true, so true.  Thanks for the link a few days ago!

Corbin Ge!ser

On January 30, 2020 at 11:03 AM, Martin Skiby <mskiby@...> wrote:


OK animal, easy on the torque!!



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Sent: Thursday January 30 2020 8:03:48AM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Replace Axle Rod

Thanks Jay.  No worries but I REALLY appreciate you looking.  I went ahead and placed an order through McMaster a few days ago and it arrives today.

Corbin Ge!ser

On January 30, 2020 at 10:02 AM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Hi Corbin,

Checked all over and at the hangar, but no luck finding those extra axle bolts.  Here is a link that may be of help. If it is not exactly what you want, then search a little more on McMaster Carr site and you will find exactly the right size rod and the steel you want. Also, they make very nice dies if you want to by one for cutting your own threads.

https://www.mcmaster.com/threaded-rods

Cheers,
Jay







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Re: Replace Axle Rod

Martin Skiby
 


OK animal, easy on the torque!!


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From: "Corbin via Groups.Io"
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Thursday January 30 2020 8:03:48AM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Replace Axle Rod

Thanks Jay.  No worries but I REALLY appreciate you looking.  I went ahead and placed an order through McMaster a few days ago and it arrives today.

Corbin Ge!ser

On January 30, 2020 at 10:02 AM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Hi Corbin,

Checked all over and at the hangar, but no luck finding those extra axle bolts.  Here is a link that may be of help. If it is not exactly what you want, then search a little more on McMaster Carr site and you will find exactly the right size rod and the steel you want. Also, they make very nice dies if you want to by one for cutting your own threads.

https://www.mcmaster.com/threaded-rods

Cheers,
Jay




Re: Replace Axle Rod

Corbin
 

Thanks Jay.  No worries but I REALLY appreciate you looking.  I went ahead and placed an order through McMaster a few days ago and it arrives today.

Corbin Ge!ser

On January 30, 2020 at 10:02 AM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Hi Corbin,

Checked all over and at the hangar, but no luck finding those extra axle bolts.  Here is a link that may be of help. If it is not exactly what you want, then search a little more on McMaster Carr site and you will find exactly the right size rod and the steel you want. Also, they make very nice dies if you want to by one for cutting your own threads.

https://www.mcmaster.com/threaded-rods

Cheers,
Jay




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Corbin 
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Re: Replace Axle Rod

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Corbin,

Checked all over and at the hangar, but no luck finding those extra axle bolts.  Here is a link that may be of help. If it is not exactly what you want, then search a little more on McMaster Carr site and you will find exactly the right size rod and the steel you want. Also, they make very nice dies if you want to by one for cutting your own threads.

https://www.mcmaster.com/threaded-rods

Cheers,
Jay


Two Q2's for $1000 and project update.

Dustin Graber
 

It's been a while since I last updated. I believe my last posts involved a search for a canard as mine was cracked down to the foam right threw the spar caps. I put a wanted add on barnstormers and called a contact that came from Jim Patillo. Ron Evans. I ended up driving out to Ohio to pick up a set of carbon spars from a barnstormers contact and the fellow made me take the whole thing.....uh. Ok. Now I have my parts plus a ton of extra stuff.
  Tonight Ron Evans called and asked if I was still interested in his two Q2 kits (GU canards). I have more Quickie stuff now than I need, but i would love to help the guy out. He seems like really nice fellow. I said the only thing I can do is mention it on here and see if anybody would be interested in them. He said I could put his phone number on and see what happens.

Ron Enans number is  1 (510) 205-1934
San Jose, CA


Re: Replace Axle Rod

Corbin
 

Much appreciated....looking into a die now in case that is what I need to do.

Corbin

On January 27, 2020 at 3:27 PM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:

Oops...  Too much force here could wreck the wheel bearings due to too much side load on them.  I typically tighten until I feel the rotating tire just gets a little stiff.  Not very tight!  That's the reason for a castle nut and no torque on the nut.  You should be able to buy some aluminum rod stock at the hardware store and cut the thread with a Die.
Mike Dwyer

YouTube Videos: https://goo.gl/yKEHfK
Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 4:03 PM Corbin via Groups.Io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
I over tightened my axle castle nut and snapped the end off the rod.  What’s the easiest and fastest recommendation for a replacement?



Corbin

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Re: Replace Axle Rod

Corbin
 

Good info!  I might look into this tomorrow.  Thanks for the measurements!

Corbin Ge!ser

On January 27, 2020 at 3:35 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

Corbin,

The axle shaft bolt and nuts of the Q is a little light and tube can get bent with repeated hits to the runway.

I replaced mine with larger 3/8”
Stainless stock that fully fills the tube diameter and goes thru the wheel. Each end is threaded for 9/16” nut/fender washer.
A machine shop can make these up for you pretty quick.

Mine has worked for years without any issues.

Jim
N46JP - Q200
Landing Livermore now.

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 1:16:59 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Replace Axle Rod
 
As I recall I cut the threads into a solid rod.  But it's been over 30 years, so I could be mistaken!

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 15:03 Corbin via Groups.Io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
I over tightened my axle castle nut and snapped the end off the rod.  What’s the easiest and fastest recommendation for a replacement?



Corbin

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Re: Replace Axle Rod

Corbin
 

Thanks Jay!  I was thinking the same thing in that maybe it was weak.

Corbin

On January 27, 2020 at 3:35 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Probably good that you did that, since it was more than likely cracked before you started tightening. I will look in my left over items from my original kit to see if I have a spare set of axles, since I did not build the taildragger. In the meantime, someone in the group probably has a source for you.

Cheers,
Jay

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 2:04 PM
To: Q-List@groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Replace Axle Rod

I over tightened my axle castle nut and snapped the end off the rod. What’s the easiest and fastest recommendation for a replacement?



Corbin

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Re: Replace Axle Rod

Jay Scheevel
 

Probably good that you did that, since it was more than likely cracked before you started tightening. I will look in my left over items from my original kit to see if I have a spare set of axles, since I did not build the taildragger. In the meantime, someone in the group probably has a source for you.

Cheers,
Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Corbin via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 2:04 PM
To: Q-List@groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Replace Axle Rod

I over tightened my axle castle nut and snapped the end off the rod. What’s the easiest and fastest recommendation for a replacement?



Corbin

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Re: Replace Axle Rod

Jim Patillo
 

Corbin,

The axle shaft bolt and nuts of the Q is a little light and tube can get bent with repeated hits to the runway.

I replaced mine with larger 3/8”
Stainless stock that fully fills the tube diameter and goes thru the wheel. Each end is threaded for 9/16” nut/fender washer.
A machine shop can make these up for you pretty quick.

Mine has worked for years without any issues.

Jim
N46JP - Q200
Landing Livermore now.

Sent from Outer Space


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...>
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2020 1:16:59 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Replace Axle Rod
 
As I recall I cut the threads into a solid rod.  But it's been over 30 years, so I could be mistaken!

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 15:03 Corbin via Groups.Io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
I over tightened my axle castle nut and snapped the end off the rod.  What’s the easiest and fastest recommendation for a replacement?



Corbin

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Corbin
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Re: Replace Axle Rod

Mike Dwyer
 

Oops...  Too much force here could wreck the wheel bearings due to too much side load on them.  I typically tighten until I feel the rotating tire just gets a little stiff.  Not very tight!  That's the reason for a castle nut and no torque on the nut.  You should be able to buy some aluminum rod stock at the hardware store and cut the thread with a Die.
Mike Dwyer

YouTube Videos: https://goo.gl/yKEHfK
Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 4:03 PM Corbin via Groups.Io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
I over tightened my axle castle nut and snapped the end off the rod.  What’s the easiest and fastest recommendation for a replacement?



Corbin

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Re: Replace Axle Rod

Paul Fisher
 

As I recall I cut the threads into a solid rod.  But it's been over 30 years, so I could be mistaken!

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020, 15:03 Corbin via Groups.Io <c_geiser=icloud.com@groups.io> wrote:
I over tightened my axle castle nut and snapped the end off the rod.  What’s the easiest and fastest recommendation for a replacement?



Corbin

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Replace Axle Rod

Corbin
 

I over tightened my axle castle nut and snapped the end off the rod. What’s the easiest and fastest recommendation for a replacement?



Corbin

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Re: Considering Very First Composite Project - Guidance Appreciated

Jim Patillo
 

Yes! But it’s pretty straight forward.

Jim
N46JP - Q200

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Corbin via Groups.Io <c_geiser@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 6:00:35 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Considering Very First Composite Project - Guidance Appreciated
 
I’d need to learn how to remove elevators to access that slot, right?   

Corbin

On Jan 21, 2020, at 7:08 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:



Corbin an option would be to run the power/ground wires down the elevator core slots using 5 min epoxy to keep wires in place and mount the wig-wags in the front or side of the wheel pants.  

I thought that plane had strobes already?

Jim
N46JP - Q200


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Re: Considering Very First Composite Project - Guidance Appreciated

Corbin
 

I’d need to learn how to remove elevators to access that slot, right?   

Corbin

On Jan 21, 2020, at 7:08 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:



Corbin an option would be to run the power/ground wires down the elevator core slots using 5 min epoxy to keep wires in place and mount the wig-wags in the front or side of the wheel pants.  

I thought that plane had strobes already?

Jim
N46JP - Q200


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Corbin 
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Re: Considering Very First Composite Project - Guidance Appreciated

Corbin
 

That’s the second time those lights were recommended today.  I think I’ll order some!

Corbin

On Jan 21, 2020, at 7:56 PM, One Sky Dog via Groups.Io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:

I was coming to OGD one day and the tower was warning people small, fast, hard to see.

I stuck a half a dozen of these on the plane,


Charlie Johnson


On Jan 21, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Corbin via Groups.Io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Hey Jim,

Mine is not actually for night flying.  It is for increased visibility at the uncontrolled field I fly into.  We have many student pilots that have trouble seeing me on final.  I have had two helicopters also have trouble spotting me.  

Corbin

On January 21, 2020 at 10:28 AM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

It would be nice to hear from guys that actually installed a landing light on their Q and if they really got benefit from it.

I’ve never had one on my Q and have landed it many times in the dark., never saw a need. We were taught to land with no lights .......... just in case.

Jim
N46JP - Q200

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Corbin via Groups.Io <c_geiser@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 7:33:36 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Considering Very First Composite Project - Guidance Appreciated
 
Thanks guys!  I’m starting to think this is doable and within reason.  I’ll start with practicing on hearing/bending plexiglass while designing a hole to cut in lower cowling.

I have the light and mount already.

Corbin

On Jan 21, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Following Sam's plan, you can shape the Plexiglas to a compound curve, matching that of your cowl cutout by using a heat gun and gentle pressure with your hands (where leather gloves). Once you have it shaped, you can trim it to the shape of the hole. You may want to lay up a lip around the hole, if you want the plex to bond flush to the cowl, or just bond the plex to the inside of the cowling, in front of the light.

Cheers,
Jay

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