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Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Mike,

 

Jim P can confirm whether I am correct or now, but I think that he (Jim) has had a failure in one of his nylaflow lines, and it was in the outer third of the wing, not close to the wheel.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Dwyer
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 6:17 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

 

That raises a question.  Has any Tail Dagger Q had a nylaflow failure?  The nose wheel versions can really stand on the brakes so the Tri-Q might benifit from better brake line.  

 

Mike Q200 N3QP

 

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 01:46 Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

Thanks Jay,
  
I’ll let Ray know you’re thinking about him.

I plan on using AN2 S/S braided Teflon, 3,000 psi. Do you see any issues running AN2 full length from caliper to brake cylinders on rudder pedals, other than the difference in weight? Just curious. 

Jim

N46JP Q200
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Jay Scheevel
 

Hi Jim,

 

I think that one piece solution will be fine and dandy. Need the high pressure fittings on each end. I ordered mine pre-made from discounthydraulichose.com

Saved a lot of headache and was very reasonably priced. Unfortunately, I think 1/4 “ is the minimum size for them.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Patillo
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 11:46 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

 

Thanks Jay,
  
I’ll let Ray know you’re thinking about him.

I plan on using AN2 S/S braided Teflon, 3,000 psi. Do you see any issues running AN2 full length from caliper to brake cylinders on rudder pedals, other than the difference in weight? Just curious. 

Jim

N46JP Q200
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

One Sky Dog
 

Nylaflow ages poorly. Nylon requires a small amount of water in the matrix. We had to soak injected molded nylon structural parts in 190 F water for 24 hrs after injecting at 600 F. I believe the water slowly disperses by evaporation over time and heat exposure reducing flexibility.

I converted to stainless steel 1/8” lines with flexible SS braided Teflon lined swaged fittings in 2006. No leaks firmer brakes. Steel is real no fatigue.

Regards,

On Feb 10, 2020, at 6:17 AM, Mike Dwyer <q200pilot@...> wrote:


That raises a question.  Has any Tail Dagger Q had a nylaflow failure?  The nose wheel versions can really stand on the brakes so the Tri-Q might benifit from better brake line.  

Mike Q200 N3QP

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 01:46 Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

Thanks Jay,
  
I’ll let Ray know you’re thinking about him.

I plan on using AN2 S/S braided Teflon, 3,000 psi. Do you see any issues running AN2 full length from caliper to brake cylinders on rudder pedals, other than the difference in weight? Just curious. 

Jim

N46JP Q200
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Bruce Crain
 

I have had aluminum tubing and braided stainless steel Teflon from the beginning.  No worries here.
I do understand that the Nyla flow is effected by heat ie being close to the brake disc/caliper.
Bruce


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Mike Dwyer " <q200pilot@...>
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2020 08:17:09 -0500

That raises a question.  Has any Tail Dagger Q had a nylaflow failure?  The nose wheel versions can really stand on the brakes so the Tri-Q might benifit from better brake line.  
 
Mike Q200 N3QP

 

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 01:46 Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

Thanks Jay,
  
I’ll let Ray know you’re thinking about him.

I plan on using AN2 S/S braided Teflon, 3,000 psi. Do you see any issues running AN2 full length from caliper to brake cylinders on rudder pedals, other than the difference in weight? Just curious. 

Jim

N46JP Q200
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Bruce Crain
 

Great looking TriQ200+ Jay!
Bruce


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Martin Skiby" <mskiby@...>
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2020 20:52:55 -0800

Beautiful and severe clear!!

Martin
 
 
 

On Feb 8, 2020, at 5:28 PM, Corbin via Groups.Io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Love it!!  Great scenery!

Corbin

On Feb 8, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Went up and flew by my buddy in his Champ this morning, so he took some pictures. I did not crop, because the scenery is as interesting as my little plane (but I am pretty proud of both the scenery and my plane). Hope you enjoy the winter look of my neck of the woods/desert.

 

Cheers,

Jay Tri-Q N8WQ 84 hours

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Corbin 
N33QR
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Mike Dwyer
 

That raises a question.  Has any Tail Dagger Q had a nylaflow failure?  The nose wheel versions can really stand on the brakes so the Tri-Q might benifit from better brake line.  

Mike Q200 N3QP

On Mon, Feb 10, 2020, 01:46 Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

Thanks Jay,
  
I’ll let Ray know you’re thinking about him.

I plan on using AN2 S/S braided Teflon, 3,000 psi. Do you see any issues running AN2 full length from caliper to brake cylinders on rudder pedals, other than the difference in weight? Just curious. 

Jim

N46JP Q200
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Jim Patillo
 

Thanks Jay,
  
I’ll let Ray know you’re thinking about him.

I plan on using AN2 S/S braided Teflon, 3,000 psi. Do you see any issues running AN2 full length from caliper to brake cylinders on rudder pedals, other than the difference in weight? Just curious. 

Jim

N46JP Q200
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Jay Scheevel
 

Thanks Jim, but you two are fully trained airmen!  Give my condolences to Ray. He was out here last fall and I got to have a few lunches with him. His plane looked great with the new paint, so I bet he is sad. Glad he was not hurt. I hope it can be repaired. I put 1/8” stainless in mine, and am using SS wrapped Teflon in the transitions to the master cylinders and to the slave cylinders. I think you will like the piece of mind.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Patillo
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2020 10:12 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

 

Hi Jay, glad to see you are having fun with your Q and your first aerial shots. I just attached this pix of me and Bob being up close and personal.😊 so you see you can get a little closer to the camera. 

Cheers,
Jim
N46JP

Btw, for those of you who know Ray McCray at LVK  his world famous 2400 hour Long Eze, got severely damaged late Friday due to a brake failure.   

Once again, the Nyloseal tubing failed. Beware. I’m switching to Stainless wrapped Braided Teflon. 
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Jim Patillo
 

Hi Jay, glad to see you are having fun with your Q and your first aerial shots. I just attached this pix of me and Bob being up close and personal.😊 so you see you can get a little closer to the camera. 

Cheers,
Jim
N46JP

Btw, for those of you who know Ray McCray at LVK  his world famous 2400 hour Long Eze, got severely damaged late Friday due to a brake failure.   

Once again, the Nyloseal tubing failed. Beware. I’m switching to Stainless wrapped Braided Teflon. 
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

One Sky Dog
 

Jay,

I tried to fly formation with a Taylorcraft one day in my Dragonfly VW. I went around that block once. So I took a critical look at your two pictures. You were a field ahead of him by the time he snapped the second one!

One Sky Dog

On Feb 9, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:


Charlie gets the "CSI Colorado" forensics award. I was dragging it along at about 85 and my friend in the Champ was speeding along at 70, so I still went by him pretty fast. When he gets his Stearman out of hibernation, I may be able to get in formation then and get some good photos.

Jay



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"One Sky Dog via Groups.Io" <Oneskydog@...> wrote:

Look at the sandbar position on the strut and Jays tail position relative to the sandbar in the two photos. This is a flyby no formation here.

I took my Tri-Pacer to Copperstate two days ago great weather high 60’s low70’s. I do not have that patchy white stuff Jay! Great photos!

Regards,

Charlie


On Feb 9, 2020, at 5:41 AM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


What? You could fly with a Champ? Did you install flaps or something? I don't see a drag parachute in the photos.

Sam 

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020, 7:14 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Went up and flew by my buddy in his Champ this morning, so he took some pictures. I did not crop, because the scenery is as interesting as my little plane (but I am pretty proud of both the scenery and my plane). Hope you enjoy the winter look of my neck of the woods/desert.

 

Cheers,

Jay Tri-Q N8WQ 84 hours
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Richard Thomson
 

Great Pics Jay, Wished are weather was that good this weekend.

    Rich T.
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Kevin Boddicker
 

Not only are you the Sky Dog, you are a SLY DOG!!!


Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B    496 hrs
Luana, IA.

On Feb 9, 2020, at 7:36 AM, One Sky Dog via Groups.Io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:

Look at the sandbar position on the strut and Jays tail position relative to the sandbar in the two photos. This is a flyby no formation here.

I took my Tri-Pacer to Copperstate two days ago great weather high 60’s low70’s. I do not have that patchy white stuff Jay! Great photos!

Regards,

Charlie


On Feb 9, 2020, at 5:41 AM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


What? You could fly with a Champ? Did you install flaps or something? I don't see a drag parachute in the photos.

Sam 

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020, 7:14 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Went up and flew by my buddy in his Champ this morning, so he took some pictures. I did not crop, because the scenery is as interesting as my little plane (but I am pretty proud of both the scenery and my plane). Hope you enjoy the winter look of my neck of the woods/desert.

 

Cheers,

Jay Tri-Q N8WQ 84 hours
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Jay Scheevel
 

Charlie gets the "CSI Colorado" forensics award. I was dragging it along at about 85 and my friend in the Champ was speeding along at 70, so I still went by him pretty fast. When he gets his Stearman out of hibernation, I may be able to get in formation then and get some good photos.

Jay



Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


"One Sky Dog via Groups.Io" <Oneskydog@...> wrote:

Look at the sandbar position on the strut and Jays tail position relative to the sandbar in the two photos. This is a flyby no formation here.

I took my Tri-Pacer to Copperstate two days ago great weather high 60’s low70’s. I do not have that patchy white stuff Jay! Great photos!

Regards,

On Feb 9, 2020, at 5:41 AM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


What? You could fly with a Champ? Did you install flaps or something? I don't see a drag parachute in the photos.

Sam 

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020, 7:14 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Went up and flew by my buddy in his Champ this morning, so he took some pictures. I did not crop, because the scenery is as interesting as my little plane (but I am pretty proud of both the scenery and my plane). Hope you enjoy the winter look of my neck of the woods/desert.

 

Cheers,

Jay Tri-Q N8WQ 84 hours
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

One Sky Dog
 

Look at the sandbar position on the strut and Jays tail position relative to the sandbar in the two photos. This is a flyby no formation here.

I took my Tri-Pacer to Copperstate two days ago great weather high 60’s low70’s. I do not have that patchy white stuff Jay! Great photos!

Regards,

On Feb 9, 2020, at 5:41 AM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


What? You could fly with a Champ? Did you install flaps or something? I don't see a drag parachute in the photos.

Sam 

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020, 7:14 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Went up and flew by my buddy in his Champ this morning, so he took some pictures. I did not crop, because the scenery is as interesting as my little plane (but I am pretty proud of both the scenery and my plane). Hope you enjoy the winter look of my neck of the woods/desert.

 

Cheers,

Jay Tri-Q N8WQ 84 hours
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Sam Hoskins
 

What? You could fly with a Champ? Did you install flaps or something? I don't see a drag parachute in the photos.

Sam 

On Sat, Feb 8, 2020, 7:14 PM Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:

Went up and flew by my buddy in his Champ this morning, so he took some pictures. I did not crop, because the scenery is as interesting as my little plane (but I am pretty proud of both the scenery and my plane). Hope you enjoy the winter look of my neck of the woods/desert.

 

Cheers,

Jay Tri-Q N8WQ 84 hours
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Martin Skiby
 

Beautiful and severe clear!!

Martin

 


On Feb 8, 2020, at 5:28 PM, Corbin via Groups.Io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Love it!!  Great scenery!

Corbin

On Feb 8, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



Went up and flew by my buddy in his Champ this morning, so he took some pictures. I did not crop, because the scenery is as interesting as my little plane (but I am pretty proud of both the scenery and my plane). Hope you enjoy the winter look of my neck of the woods/desert.

 

Cheers,

Jay Tri-Q N8WQ 84 hours

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Corbin 
N33QR

Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Mike
 

Looks great!   Good pilot skills to stay that slow so he could get the shot!

Mike Q200wannabe 


On Feb 8, 2020, at 5:28 PM, Corbin via Groups.Io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

Love it!!  Great scenery!

Corbin

On Feb 8, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



Went up and flew by my buddy in his Champ this morning, so he took some pictures. I did not crop, because the scenery is as interesting as my little plane (but I am pretty proud of both the scenery and my plane). Hope you enjoy the winter look of my neck of the woods/desert.

 

Cheers,

Jay Tri-Q N8WQ 84 hours

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<IMG_9011.jpg>

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Corbin 
N33QR

Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Corbin
 

Love it!!  Great scenery!

Corbin

On Feb 8, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Jay Scheevel <jay@...> wrote:



Went up and flew by my buddy in his Champ this morning, so he took some pictures. I did not crop, because the scenery is as interesting as my little plane (but I am pretty proud of both the scenery and my plane). Hope you enjoy the winter look of my neck of the woods/desert.

 

Cheers,

Jay Tri-Q N8WQ 84 hours

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Corbin 
N33QR
Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Jerry Marstall <jnmarstall@...>
 

Awesome, Jay.  Nice looking country too.
J

-------- Original message --------
From: Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Date: 2/8/20 7:14 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Q-List@groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Went up and flew by my buddy in his Champ this morning, so he took some pictures. I did not crop, because the scenery is as interesting as my little plane (but I am pretty proud of both the scenery and my plane). Hope you enjoy the winter look of my neck of the woods/desert.

 

Cheers,

Jay Tri-Q N8WQ 84 hours
First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Jay Scheevel
 

Went up and flew by my buddy in his Champ this morning, so he took some pictures. I did not crop, because the scenery is as interesting as my little plane (but I am pretty proud of both the scenery and my plane). Hope you enjoy the winter look of my neck of the woods/desert.

 

Cheers,

Jay Tri-Q N8WQ 84 hours
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