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Re: Flight Report/s

One Sky Dog
 

Kevin,

Very nice report, alas the Dragonvair is still in reconstruction. I have to console my self with the Tri-Pacer 2020 7 hr 18 landings 1 air show and 1 hr of dual slow flight practice.

Forecast 73 F this weekend enjoy.

Your wingman from afar,

On Mar 1, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Kevin Boddicker <trumanst@...> wrote:

Been a long time since my last report. Damn!
Flew last week for the first time this year, but for a biannual on 2/2.
Nice day forecast, and that came true.
Left DEH at 11:30 AM to meet Paul Fisher for lunch.Flight was great! Severe clear and bright sunshine. 45°F as well. 
Picked VTI because of favorable winds, although wind was light when we arrived.
I took Paul a used O-200 cylinder. He has use for one, but is not sure if he will rebuild, or buy new. 
Went to town for lunch an good conversation. 
Flight home was excellent as well. Had a strong crosswind, but didn’t effect ground speed much. Paul had a headwind to VTI, and haulled on the way home.
Made two good landings, and was happy with the day.

#2
Flew again today! 50°F+ today. Old saying, if March comes in like a lamb, it will go out like a lion. Hope that”s wrong.
Went for two reasons. The obvious, because I could. AND I logged 500 hours on N7868B today!!
When I was building, I could only imagine being able to fly at all. Now I have flown her 500 hours. Again, never thought that would happen when 
elbow deep in a layup in some hell hole. 
It may not mean much to you high timers, but I’m happy today.


There is an old story about someone in Q the group, telling another from the Dragonfly group that he would kiss his ass, if,,,,????           
Well, I would have thought I might do the same if I ever got 500 hours on my plane, but I don’t have to. See attached.

Thanks Yimmie

Keep building, taxiing, painting, dreaming, working, 
It’s well worth it.


Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   500 hrs
Luana, IA.

I'll never tell!!!


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Flight Report/s

Kevin Boddicker
 

Been a long time since my last report. Damn!
Flew last week for the first time this year, but for a biannual on 2/2.
Nice day forecast, and that came true.
Left DEH at 11:30 AM to meet Paul Fisher for lunch.Flight was great! Severe clear and bright sunshine. 45°F as well. 
Picked VTI because of favorable winds, although wind was light when we arrived.
I took Paul a used O-200 cylinder. He has use for one, but is not sure if he will rebuild, or buy new. 
Went to town for lunch an good conversation. 
Flight home was excellent as well. Had a strong crosswind, but didn’t effect ground speed much. Paul had a headwind to VTI, and haulled on the way home.
Made two good landings, and was happy with the day.

#2
Flew again today! 50°F+ today. Old saying, if March comes in like a lamb, it will go out like a lion. Hope that”s wrong.
Went for two reasons. The obvious, because I could. AND I logged 500 hours on N7868B today!!
When I was building, I could only imagine being able to fly at all. Now I have flown her 500 hours. Again, never thought that would happen when 
elbow deep in a layup in some hell hole. 
It may not mean much to you high timers, but I’m happy today.


There is an old story about someone in Q the group, telling another from the Dragonfly group that he would kiss his ass, if,,,,????           
Well, I would have thought I might do the same if I ever got 500 hours on my plane, but I don’t have to. See attached.

Thanks Yimmie

Keep building, taxiing, painting, dreaming, working, 
It’s well worth it.


Kevin Boddicker
TriQ 200 N7868B   500 hrs
Luana, IA.

I'll never tell!!!



Re: Q2, Complete, Revmaster 2100D

 

Yes, I’m hesitantly outing it up for sale. I’ll update the post later today. My apologies.

Sent from the ultimate iPhone 

On Feb 26, 2020, at 10:01 AM, Corbin via Groups.Io <c_geiser@...> wrote:

You are selling?

Corbin

On Feb 26, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Adrian Rogers <anrogers29@...> wrote:



[Edited Message Follows]

I have a Q2 in the final stage of flight, high speed taxi phase,over 30 hrs of taxi time,  I took over this project in 2014...slowly adding/fine tuning areas, new battery, airworthiness certificate is in hand. Call/email/txt for further details/demo of ground activity. Thank you - Adrian
<Q2_02_24_2020.jpg>

--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Q2 to to Q200

Martin Skiby
 

Mike,  I saw one years ago that was a swing mount so the guy could swing the engine out to get to accessory case.  It pushed the engine only about 2 inches farther forward I believe.  Looked like a good idea, but I decided it was not worth the extra work and weight and CG issues.




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From: "Mike Dwyer"
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday February 26 2020 11:20:03AM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 to to Q200

The Quickies don't have a welded motor mount like a J3.  It would make the engine stick out too far forward.  It would not be a really hard thing to cut off the old firewall and glass in a new one for the 0-200A.
Mike Dwyer

YouTube Videos: https://goo.gl/yKEHfK
Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:00 AM <joe.hood@...> wrote:
New hard points for the O-200 mounted on the firewall or weld the current frame?


Re: Q2 to to Q200

Mike Dwyer
 

The Quickies don't have a welded motor mount like a J3.  It would make the engine stick out too far forward.  It would not be a really hard thing to cut off the old firewall and glass in a new one for the 0-200A.
Mike Dwyer

YouTube Videos: https://goo.gl/yKEHfK
Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:00 AM <joe.hood@...> wrote:
New hard points for the O-200 mounted on the firewall or weld the current frame?


Re: Q2 to to Q200

Mike Dwyer
 

The Quickie factory people determined that to use the heavier 0-200A engine that a LS1 wing with the carbon fiber spar was needed.  The GU spar ends 4 feet from the wing tips and is the weak point for landing loads.  Yes a couple of people have got some hours on a GU with the 0-200A but maybe they are exceptional pilots or haven't faced that sudden downburst yet...

Other changes.  Header tank, elevator control system, mass balancers on elevator and ailerons, stiffener stringers on back side of cowling, engine mounts.   
Mike Dwyer

YouTube Videos: https://goo.gl/yKEHfK
Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF


On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:31 AM Martin Skiby <mskiby@...> wrote:
Yes what Richard said.

No need for an LS Canard.  But there is a need to counter balance all control surfaces if not already done.


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From: "Richard Kaczmarek 3RD"
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday February 26 2020 8:04:06AM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 to to Q200

1. New engine mounts 
2. A modification to the firewall 
3. A longer cowling 
Some will argue that is you don't have the LS1 canard you need to have it but but that just isn't true.

Richard 


Re: Q2, Complete, Revmaster 2100D

Corbin
 

You are selling?

Corbin

On Feb 26, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Adrian Rogers <anrogers29@...> wrote:



[Edited Message Follows]

I have a Q2 in the final stage of flight, high speed taxi phase,over 30 hrs of taxi time,  I took over this project in 2014...slowly adding/fine tuning areas, new battery, airworthiness certificate is in hand. Call/email/txt for further details/demo of ground activity. Thank you - Adrian
<Q2_02_24_2020.jpg>

--

Corbin 
N33QR


Q2, Complete, Revmaster 2100D

 
Edited

I have a Q2 in the final stage of flight, high speed taxi phase,over 30 hrs of taxi time,  I took over this project in 2014...slowly adding/fine tuning areas, new battery, airworthiness certificate is in hand. Call/email/txt for further details/demo of ground activity. Located at the EAA Hangar in Camarillo, Ca. (KCMA)

Thank you - Adrian


Re: Q2 to to Q200

Martin Skiby
 

Good advice Jay,



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From: "Jay Scheevel"
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday February 26 2020 8:37:47AM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 to to Q200

Also, if using the GU, especially with the heavier engine, you will need to fit the canard with vortex generators to avoid contamination related lift degradation.

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel, N8WQ

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Martin Skiby
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:31 AM
To: 'main@Q-List.groups.io' <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Cc: 'main@q-list.groups.io' <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 to to Q200

 

Yes what Richard said.

No need for an LS Canard.  But there is a need to counter balance all control surfaces if not already done.

 

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From: "Richard Kaczmarek 3RD"
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday February 26 2020 8:04:06AM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 to to Q200

1. New engine mounts 

2. A modification to the firewall 

3. A longer cowling 

Some will argue that is you don't have the LS1 canard you need to have it but but that just isn't true.

 

Richard 


Re: Q2 to to Q200

Jay Scheevel
 

Also, if using the GU, especially with the heavier engine, you will need to fit the canard with vortex generators to avoid contamination related lift degradation.

 

Cheers,

Jay Scheevel, N8WQ

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Martin Skiby
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2020 9:31 AM
To: 'main@Q-List.groups.io' <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Cc: 'main@q-list.groups.io' <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 to to Q200

 

Yes what Richard said.

No need for an LS Canard.  But there is a need to counter balance all control surfaces if not already done.

 

-----------------------------------------

From: "Richard Kaczmarek 3RD"
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday February 26 2020 8:04:06AM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 to to Q200

1. New engine mounts 

2. A modification to the firewall 

3. A longer cowling 

Some will argue that is you don't have the LS1 canard you need to have it but but that just isn't true.

 

Richard 


Re: Q2 to to Q200

Martin Skiby
 

Yes what Richard said.

No need for an LS Canard.  But there is a need to counter balance all control surfaces if not already done.


-----------------------------------------

From: "Richard Kaczmarek 3RD"
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Cc:
Sent: Wednesday February 26 2020 8:04:06AM
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Q2 to to Q200

1. New engine mounts 
2. A modification to the firewall 
3. A longer cowling 
Some will argue that is you don't have the LS1 canard you need to have it but but that just isn't true.

Richard 


Re: Q2 to to Q200

Richard Kaczmarek 3RD
 

1. New engine mounts 
2. A modification to the firewall 
3. A longer cowling 
Some will argue that is you don't have the LS1 canard you need to have it but but that just isn't true.

Richard 


Re: Q2 to to Q200

Joe Hood
 

New hard points for the O-200 mounted on the firewall or weld the current frame?


Re: Looking for Alternative Canard layup schedules

Brian Larick
 

We’re these drawings ever uploaded?  I may have missed them.


Re: Q2 to to Q200

 

Money


Q2 to to Q200

Brian Larick
 

What does it take to switch from Revmaster to O200.


Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

JMasal@...
 

helpful photo!


-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Thomson <richard@...>
To: main <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Sent: Wed, Feb 12, 2020 12:59 pm
Subject: Re: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

    I like my braided hoses at the caliper interface, helps to provide a heat break and you get a sparkly look. :-) 
    From experiments on the old pipes when they were changed, it is usually some damage from abrasion that leads to failure.
    Should have done them at the pedal end as well, that's an upgrade for the future.
    Rich T
   
   
On 12/02/2020 05:24, Jim Patillo wrote:
Replaced both sides at wheel pant only, I think. May have switched to s/s braided there.

Sent from Outer Space

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Mike via Groups.Io <n7000t@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 9:01:58 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ
 
Jim,
Did Brad update the tubing or just replace what is there?

Thanks 

Mike Q200wannabe 


On Feb 11, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_Engineering@...> wrote:


Hey Jay, Jerry and Mike,

You can add Brad Olsen (Tom Moore’s Q originally)to that list. NF tubing failed in the wheel pant near the disc. He locked up the other brake and did a 360. No damage. Quick repair and he was flying again.

Jim
N46JP - Q200

Sent from Outer Space

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:47:32 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ
 
Hi Mike and Rich,
 
We just discussed two cases of the nylaflow tubing failing. One was last week, Ray McCrea’s long EZ and the other was Jim Patillo’s Q200 a few years ago.
 
Cheers,
Jay
 
From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Dwyer
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:28 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ
 
Hi Rich,
It doesn't sound like there have been any nylaflow tubing breaks.
I'm still running my 35 year old stuff with 1400 hours on it with no issues.  I took a piece of the leftover 35 year old stuff and tried to break it with no luck, it seemed pretty good.  I do a brake pressure test each time before landing so if it fails in flight I'll know that I'm landing with no brakes and can plan for that.
Fly Safe.
Mike Dwyer
 
YouTube Videos: https://goo.gl/yKEHfK
Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF
 
 
On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 2:06 PM Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:

     Hi Guys,

     So where have the pipe ruptures been just for interest.

     Are they mainly are the caliper end due to heat ?

     Rich T.





Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Richard Thomson
 

    I like my braided hoses at the caliper interface, helps to provide a heat break and you get a sparkly look. :-) 

    From experiments on the old pipes when they were changed, it is usually some damage from abrasion that leads to failure.

    Should have done them at the pedal end as well, that's an upgrade for the future.

    Rich T

   

   

On 12/02/2020 05:24, Jim Patillo wrote:
Replaced both sides at wheel pant only, I think. May have switched to s/s braided there.

Sent from Outer Space

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Mike via Groups.Io <n7000t@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 9:01:58 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ
 
Jim,
Did Brad update the tubing or just replace what is there?

Thanks 

Mike Q200wannabe 


On Feb 11, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_Engineering@...> wrote:


Hey Jay, Jerry and Mike,

You can add Brad Olsen (Tom Moore’s Q originally)to that list. NF tubing failed in the wheel pant near the disc. He locked up the other brake and did a 360. No damage. Quick repair and he was flying again.

Jim
N46JP - Q200

Sent from Outer Space

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:47:32 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ
 

Hi Mike and Rich,

 

We just discussed two cases of the nylaflow tubing failing. One was last week, Ray McCrea’s long EZ and the other was Jim Patillo’s Q200 a few years ago.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Dwyer
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:28 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

 

Hi Rich,

It doesn't sound like there have been any nylaflow tubing breaks.

I'm still running my 35 year old stuff with 1400 hours on it with no issues.  I took a piece of the leftover 35 year old stuff and tried to break it with no luck, it seemed pretty good.  I do a brake pressure test each time before landing so if it fails in flight I'll know that I'm landing with no brakes and can plan for that.

Fly Safe.

Mike Dwyer

 

YouTube Videos: https://goo.gl/yKEHfK

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF

 

 

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 2:06 PM Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:


     Hi Guys,

     So where have the pipe ruptures been just for interest.

     Are they mainly are the caliper end due to heat ?

     Rich T.




Re: Brake tube failures

charlie
 

You can change from Nylon tube to Teflon tube without needing to use the braided tube. The end fittings can be the same or upgraded.
CharlieN

At 05:24 AM 2/12/2020 +0000, you wrote:
Replaced both sides at wheel pant only, I think. May have switched to s/s braided there.

Sent from Outer Space


Re: First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

Jim Patillo
 

Replaced both sides at wheel pant only, I think. May have switched to s/s braided there.

Sent from Outer Space


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Mike via Groups.Io <n7000t@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 9:01:58 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ
 
Jim,
Did Brad update the tubing or just replace what is there?

Thanks 

Mike Q200wannabe 


On Feb 11, 2020, at 8:55 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_Engineering@...> wrote:


Hey Jay, Jerry and Mike,

You can add Brad Olsen (Tom Moore’s Q originally)to that list. NF tubing failed in the wheel pant near the disc. He locked up the other brake and did a 360. No damage. Quick repair and he was flying again.

Jim
N46JP - Q200

Sent from Outer Space

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Jay Scheevel <jay@...>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:47:32 PM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ
 

Hi Mike and Rich,

 

We just discussed two cases of the nylaflow tubing failing. One was last week, Ray McCrea’s long EZ and the other was Jim Patillo’s Q200 a few years ago.

 

Cheers,

Jay

 

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mike Dwyer
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2020 2:28 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] First air-to-air shots of N8WQ

 

Hi Rich,

It doesn't sound like there have been any nylaflow tubing breaks.

I'm still running my 35 year old stuff with 1400 hours on it with no issues.  I took a piece of the leftover 35 year old stuff and tried to break it with no luck, it seemed pretty good.  I do a brake pressure test each time before landing so if it fails in flight I'll know that I'm landing with no brakes and can plan for that.

Fly Safe.

Mike Dwyer

 

YouTube Videos: https://goo.gl/yKEHfK

Q200 Website: http://goo.gl/V8IrJF

 

 

On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 2:06 PM Richard Thomson <richard@...> wrote:


     Hi Guys,

     So where have the pipe ruptures been just for interest.

     Are they mainly are the caliper end due to heat ?

     Rich T.



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