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Re: Quarantined flight

Dave Dugas
 

Hi Corbin. Glad to hear you are happy with the echo. Hope mine works out as well. By the way your videos are great to see. Thank you.
Dave D


On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 4:37 PM, Jerry Gmail
<jerrylm1986@...> wrote:
I pulled out a picture so I would recognize N625JM should I ever get back to the airport. 

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 2:26 PM Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:
I got a chance to fly today (shhh, don't tell anyone!).  I was afraid I had forgotten how to fly it, but I made three beautiful landings.  Maybe forgetting all my bad habits was a good thing!

I would have flown longer, but I still had the winter time oil cooler block installed.  I haven't flown it since spring arrived (shame on me).  

Anyway, I'm now current with three full stop landings.  Hopefully all of the quarantines will be lifted before I lose my currency!

Y'all stay healthy.  Hopefully we can get together soon.

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF


Re: Landing Auburn, Ca

Jim Patillo
 

Yes it is Jay. It belongs to a friend who is restoring it. A few months back he took out the end of the left wing. Seems hangars don’t move easily. That has now been repaired. I hope to see it fly soon.

Don’t know if you remember but Barry Weber, Mark Srick and I bought a 1983 Aeronatica Romano IAR823 directly from the Romanian Air Force  several years back. It was the primary trainer for their Migs. It had light hard mounts. We replaced the Russian instruments and some components and got it flying. It was a nimble airplane with light handling and control input characteristics like the Q. It looks like a Mooney on steroids. That was a fun experience!

Image.jpeg

Jim
N46JP - Q200

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Re: Landing Auburn, Ca

Jay Scheevel
 

Jim,
Is that an AN-2 on the ramp behind your quickie?

Jay

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

A little ugly landing in Auburn yesterday. Rain and pissin’ snow. Two days before it was severe clear and right at 70 degrees  

Jim
N46JP Q200


Re: Landing Auburn, Ca

 

Might be worth it not to get the water in. Parked 109 I heard with at least down 40 percent.  My 3 day this coming week was canceled and the rest of the month is less flying 

Mike


On Apr 5, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_Engineering@...> wrote:


Been tryin Mike but hangars here are limited. If you can find someone that will let you in (to share) they typically want $500.00 + per month, even when I tell them I only need it for 4 days a week. Kinda sucks.

Are you back on the line this week. How many planes do you guys have parked now?
I heard United is at 55%.

Stay safe.

Jim
N46JP - Q200

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From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Mike via groups.io <n7000t@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 2:41:43 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Landing Auburn, Ca
 
Jim,
You’ve got to get your baby in a hangar up there!

MikeQ200wannabe


On Apr 5, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_Engineering@...> wrote:



A little ugly landing in Auburn yesterday. Rain and pissin’ snow. Two days before it was severe clear and right at 70 degrees  

Jim
N46JP Q200

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Re: Landing Auburn, Ca

Jim Patillo
 

Been tryin Mike but hangars here are limited. If you can find someone that will let you in (to share) they typically want $500.00 + per month, even when I tell them I only need it for 4 days a week. Kinda sucks.

Are you back on the line this week. How many planes do you guys have parked now?
I heard United is at 55%.

Stay safe.

Jim
N46JP - Q200

Sent from Outer Space


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Mike via groups.io <n7000t@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 2:41:43 PM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Landing Auburn, Ca
 
Jim,
You’ve got to get your baby in a hangar up there!

MikeQ200wannabe


On Apr 5, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_Engineering@...> wrote:



A little ugly landing in Auburn yesterday. Rain and pissin’ snow. Two days before it was severe clear and right at 70 degrees  

Jim
N46JP Q200

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Re: Landing Auburn, Ca

 

Jim,
You’ve got to get your baby in a hangar up there!

MikeQ200wannabe


On Apr 5, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Jim Patillo <Logistics_Engineering@...> wrote:



A little ugly landing in Auburn yesterday. Rain and pissin’ snow. Two days before it was severe clear and right at 70 degrees  

Jim
N46JP Q200

<075B0562-6380-40E0-B780-4D0E842866DE.jpeg>


Landing Auburn, Ca

Jim Patillo
 

A little ugly landing in Auburn yesterday. Rain and pissin’ snow. Two days before it was severe clear and right at 70 degrees  

Jim
N46JP Q200


Re: Quarantined flight

Corbin <c_geiser@...>
 

I’m loving my Echo and hope you do as well. The most common issue people have is the transponder threshold setting.   I think I had to go down to 900 in order for it to read baro pressure altitude.

Corbin

On Apr 5, 2020, at 3:37 PM, Jerry Gmail <jerrylm1986@...> wrote:


I pulled out a picture so I would recognize N625JM should I ever get back to the airport. 

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 2:26 PM Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:
I got a chance to fly today (shhh, don't tell anyone!).  I was afraid I had forgotten how to fly it, but I made three beautiful landings.  Maybe forgetting all my bad habits was a good thing!

I would have flown longer, but I still had the winter time oil cooler block installed.  I haven't flown it since spring arrived (shame on me).  

Anyway, I'm now current with three full stop landings.  Hopefully all of the quarantines will be lifted before I lose my currency!

Y'all stay healthy.  Hopefully we can get together soon.

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF


--

Corbin 
N33QR


Re: Quarantined flight

Jerry Marstall
 

I pulled out a picture so I would recognize N625JM should I ever get back to the airport. 


On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 2:26 PM Paul Fisher <rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:
I got a chance to fly today (shhh, don't tell anyone!).  I was afraid I had forgotten how to fly it, but I made three beautiful landings.  Maybe forgetting all my bad habits was a good thing!

I would have flown longer, but I still had the winter time oil cooler block installed.  I haven't flown it since spring arrived (shame on me).  

Anyway, I'm now current with three full stop landings.  Hopefully all of the quarantines will be lifted before I lose my currency!

Y'all stay healthy.  Hopefully we can get together soon.

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF


Re: Covid19

Jay Scheevel
 

No. Not Jay Scheevel. Different Jay. Not sure who. Hope you all are well.


Cheers,
Jay N8WQ

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID


Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:

I take it this wasn’t your personal post Jay?
Bruce
> On Apr 5, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Drhyed via groups.io <Drhyed@...> wrote:
>
> My wife is a RN and deals with this everyday at work so I’ll throw my dime store opinion and also my experience.
>
> About 2.5 weeks ago and 3 days after my wife’s first confirmed exposure at work I developed a 101.5 fever and a dry cough, so off the the ER I went. After a complete day of getting the run a round (they couldn’t figure out how to get authorization to test, I sat in what they said was an isolation room for 3 hours but turned out was just a closed off area of the hospital and I was “missing”... it was a day) I did end up getting tested, I am on 3 immunosuppressants and was considered high risk, that’s the only reason I was tested vs kicked back home to isolation with no test. I was also “read the riot act” and signed papers from the county health commission stating I couldn’t leave my house for 2 weeks, could face arrest if I did and given a lot of other restrictions ect ect. BUT I was also told they (the county health commission) would check in every 24-48 hours and notify me in 5-7 days with my result. Ultimately I NEVER heard a word from the health commission, and when I called them I 3 different times I could not get a live person on the phone. I only got my (thankfully negative) result from lab corp via a back channel hook up 10 days later. So to me the numbers of reported cases are VERY VERY suspect.
>
> Next, at least where my wife works, there is a steady flow of suspected cases where people are admitted with respiratory distress of some type (bacterial pneumonia, pulmonary fibrosis ect) and within 12-24 hours are intubated and on a respirator and pass shorty after. They never get or had been tested but the physical signs clearly point to known covid type symptoms. And these are people in their 20’s-30’s-40’s as well as older. As far as my wife or her co-workers can tell these types of cases never officially get reported as covid deaths.
>
> I wouldn’t get fixated on numbers either way or get in a hurry tallying up the numbers or counting who has what, yes the world has gotten obsessed with instant gratification in the last 20 years but virus doesn’t spread that way. Most people walking around with it won’t know what hit them for several more days yet.
>
> Jay
>
>
>
>
>
>






Re: Quarantined flight

Rick Hole
 

Solo flight has to be the ultimate in social distancing!
Rick Hole

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 12:32 PM Dave Dugas via groups.io <davedq2=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
Nice Paul. I have a couple of recent short flights, and I hope to get back in the air shortly. I'm in the middle of installing the Uavionix echo package. A new toy to play with. I'll be ready for Enid


On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 2:26 PM, Paul Fisher
I got a chance to fly today (shhh, don't tell anyone!).  I was afraid I had forgotten how to fly it, but I made three beautiful landings.  Maybe forgetting all my bad habits was a good thing!

I would have flown longer, but I still had the winter time oil cooler block installed.  I haven't flown it since spring arrived (shame on me).  

Anyway, I'm now current with three full stop landings.  Hopefully all of the quarantines will be lifted before I lose my currency!

Y'all stay healthy.  Hopefully we can get together soon.

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF


Re: Quarantined flight

Dave Dugas
 

Nice Paul. I have a couple of recent short flights, and I hope to get back in the air shortly. I'm in the middle of installing the Uavionix echo package. A new toy to play with. I'll be ready for Enid


On Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 2:26 PM, Paul Fisher
<rv7a.n18pf@...> wrote:
I got a chance to fly today (shhh, don't tell anyone!).  I was afraid I had forgotten how to fly it, but I made three beautiful landings.  Maybe forgetting all my bad habits was a good thing!

I would have flown longer, but I still had the winter time oil cooler block installed.  I haven't flown it since spring arrived (shame on me).  

Anyway, I'm now current with three full stop landings.  Hopefully all of the quarantines will be lifted before I lose my currency!

Y'all stay healthy.  Hopefully we can get together soon.

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF


Quarantined flight

Paul Fisher
 

I got a chance to fly today (shhh, don't tell anyone!).  I was afraid I had forgotten how to fly it, but I made three beautiful landings.  Maybe forgetting all my bad habits was a good thing!

I would have flown longer, but I still had the winter time oil cooler block installed.  I haven't flown it since spring arrived (shame on me).  

Anyway, I'm now current with three full stop landings.  Hopefully all of the quarantines will be lifted before I lose my currency!

Y'all stay healthy.  Hopefully we can get together soon.

Paul Fisher
Q-200 N17PF


Re: Covid19

Bruce Crain
 

Hey there you are Gene Knapp!  Glad you are in the main.io group!
Bruce 


On Apr 5, 2020, at 12:51 PM, GeneKnapp2 via groups.io <GeneKnapp2@...> wrote:


No but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express!

Hummm ... so lets seeee ... April third 2020 ... SO!!! Friday Night is DATE Night in Enid (Dine spelled backwards) Oklahoma!!!!

guess they don't call ya'll Sooner's for nuttin ;-0 Yeowwwwww


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
To: main <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2020 7:35 am
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Covid19

No but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express!
B

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Jim Patillo" <Logistics_engineering@...>
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Covid19
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 13:57:23 -0700

Good afternoon fellas,

I know this is way off topic for our group but I've been doing a query of people I know across this country and haven't found one person that knows someone (personally) who contracted and died from Covid19. To further that, I would like to ask the same question of you. Yes or no.

I find this kind of weird.

Regards,
Jim
N46JP - Q200 


Re: Socially Isolated Flight Report - I guess the hard way.

Bruce Crain
 

I assumed that Uavionics posted it as “Experimental” and wasn’t supposed to be used in spam cans.  If you go that way I think you will be pleased!  I am and I think Jim Patillo is also.
Bruce


On Apr 4, 2020, at 5:05 PM, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:

Bruce who is they? There is no regulation for part 91 that says I can not. My A&P AI said he would fill out a 337 even though I could just stick it on myself and make an entry in the log book.

https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/community/threads/type-certificate-prohibiting-non-tso’d-equipment.109141/

A hunk of burning Mach it is not but I can put 950 lbs in it and land on dirt. 

Charlie




On Apr 4, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:


Sorry Charlie I didn't mean to offend the venerable Tri Pacer!  It is a hunk o' burnin' Mach!  Say Jim Pattilo and I went with the Uavonix experimental package for ads-b in and out.  It is about $1350 but it is nice to see who and where traffic is coming from.  And it is not that much more expensive than the Sky-beacon.  But will they let you put it on the Tri Pacer?
Bruce 

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "One Sky Dog via groups.io" <Oneskydog@...>
To: main@q-list.groups.io
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Socially Isolated Flight Report - I guess the hard way.
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 13:13:54 -0700

I will have you know it was 0.149984 of Mach of course that was a maximum.

 
Doing well preparing to go north to work on the Dragonfly at the end of the month.
 
I upgraded to a 406 ELT because standing in a field with the 121.5 going off no one comes.
 
Also submitting to surveillance program and ordered a Sky beacon. The tail beacon would not fit my tail light socket. Flying the Tri-Pacer up between the 25 and 30 Apr. under the veil of KSLC

Doing well no friends close by so staying isolated and have my P95 at the ready.
 
Charlie


On Apr 4, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:

Was that at Mach .07?  Hope this post finds you well and blessed Charlie!
Bruce

 

On Apr 4, 2020, at 10:51 AM, One Sky Dog via groups.io <Oneskydog@...> wrote:

Hello all,
 
I practiced awaiting for two hours yesterday, touch and go at Tombstone (graveyard airport one hanger and one the wind destroyed). Surveyed some of the southern border no bollard fence yet by Bisby. Back to E95 before the wind picked up.
 
One Sky Dog


On Apr 1, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...> wrote:

Good on ya Sammy!!  And probably at Mach .3 or so!!!
Bruce

 

On Apr 1, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:

Last week I pushed the Q-200 out and did an hour of burning gas and flying around in circles.  It felt good, but my return entrance to the pattern sucked.  Today was too nice to pass up and I pushed my Fiberglass Bitch out into the daylight.  I hopped over to Marion, KMWA for pattern work, touch and goes.Their runway is 8,000 x 150, so I figured I was fairly safe.

I did 10 T&Gs. I can not remember the last time I did that many.  And I have to say, I don't think the last one was any better than the first. There's a lot to keep track of for this old fart..  Fuel management, elevator trim, reflexor, speed brake, speed, speed, speed etc., etc.

I wish I had an instructor next to me yelling at me to watch my altitude on the downwind (too high), watch my speed across the numbers (way too fast), Watch speed on the base (way to fast). Stay in closer to the runway (exacerbated by being too fast). You're too low on the final, dragging it in.

Whew!

It took almost an hour to do all 10, but I can say to myself "Thanks, I needed that".

Sam


Re: Covid19

Bruce Crain
 

I take it this wasn’t your personal post Jay?
Bruce

On Apr 5, 2020, at 11:35 AM, Drhyed via groups.io <Drhyed@...> wrote:

My wife is a RN and deals with this everyday at work so I’ll throw my dime store opinion and also my experience.

About 2.5 weeks ago and 3 days after my wife’s first confirmed exposure at work I developed a 101.5 fever and a dry cough, so off the the ER I went. After a complete day of getting the run a round (they couldn’t figure out how to get authorization to test, I sat in what they said was an isolation room for 3 hours but turned out was just a closed off area of the hospital and I was “missing”... it was a day) I did end up getting tested, I am on 3 immunosuppressants and was considered high risk, that’s the only reason I was tested vs kicked back home to isolation with no test. I was also “read the riot act” and signed papers from the county health commission stating I couldn’t leave my house for 2 weeks, could face arrest if I did and given a lot of other restrictions ect ect. BUT I was also told they (the county health commission) would check in every 24-48 hours and notify me in 5-7 days with my result. Ultimately I NEVER heard a word from the health commission, and when I called them I 3 different times I could not get a live person on the phone. I only got my (thankfully negative) result from lab corp via a back channel hook up 10 days later. So to me the numbers of reported cases are VERY VERY suspect.

Next, at least where my wife works, there is a steady flow of suspected cases where people are admitted with respiratory distress of some type (bacterial pneumonia, pulmonary fibrosis ect) and within 12-24 hours are intubated and on a respirator and pass shorty after. They never get or had been tested but the physical signs clearly point to known covid type symptoms. And these are people in their 20’s-30’s-40’s as well as older. As far as my wife or her co-workers can tell these types of cases never officially get reported as covid deaths.

I wouldn’t get fixated on numbers either way or get in a hurry tallying up the numbers or counting who has what, yes the world has gotten obsessed with instant gratification in the last 20 years but virus doesn’t spread that way. Most people walking around with it won’t know what hit them for several more days yet.

Jay






Re: Covid19

GeneKnapp2@...
 

No but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express!

Hummm ... so lets seeee ... April third 2020 ... SO!!! Friday Night is DATE Night in Enid (Dine spelled backwards) Oklahoma!!!!

guess they don't call ya'll Sooner's for nuttin ;-0 Yeowwwwww


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Crain <jcrain2@...>
To: main <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Sent: Fri, Apr 3, 2020 7:35 am
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Covid19

No but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express!
B

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Jim Patillo" <Logistics_engineering@...>
To: main@Q-List.groups.io
Subject: [Q-List] Covid19
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 13:57:23 -0700

Good afternoon fellas,

I know this is way off topic for our group but I've been doing a query of people I know across this country and haven't found one person that knows someone (personally) who contracted and died from Covid19. To further that, I would like to ask the same question of you. Yes or no.

I find this kind of weird.

Regards,
Jim
N46JP - Q200 


Re: Covid19

Jim Patillo
 

Thanks Jay. I’ll give that horse trader a call. 😊

Jim
N46JP Q200

Sent from Outer Space


From: Jim Patillo <logistics_engineering@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 10:45:15 AM
To: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Covid19
 
Hey Sam, glad to know you and Sandy and kids/grandkids are good! Sorry to hear about your friend. My daughter is a critical care RN at Washington Hospital near San Jose and that makes me very anxious because they started getting Covid19 patients a month ago.

Ron T. glad to hear from you as well. Are you still living at Mammoth Lake? You kinda disappeared and I wondered what had happened to you and your son.

Jim
N46JP - Q200

Sent from Outer Space

From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 9:00:06 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Covid19
 
Ron,

Fat, dumb and happy. 

Sam 

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 10:45 AM Ron Triano <rondefly@...> wrote:
Hi Sam, hope your doing ok, I am well and gave my Q to my son, it sits in the hangar at TVA

Ron. Triano. KI6VEY

On Apr 5, 2020, at 5:24 AM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


I just found out that someone I knew from back in the late 1960s has passed away yesterday from COVID-19. So, that's the first, and I hope the only, person I know has been hit. 

Sam 

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 12:48 PM Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

Thank you for the continuing replies guys. Here in Placer County, (roughly Sacramento to Lake Tahoe)
we have 97 reported cases/2 deaths. In Alameda County ( our other residence) there are 367 reported cases/12 deaths.  This is of 10:00 am April 4  

Keith really sorry to hear about your friends. 

Jim
N46JP - Q200

 


Re: Covid19

Jim Patillo
 

Hey Sam, glad to know you and Sandy and kids/grandkids are good! Sorry to hear about your friend. My daughter is a critical care RN at Washington Hospital near San Jose and that makes me very anxious because they started getting Covid19 patients a month ago.

Ron T. glad to hear from you as well. Are you still living at Mammoth Lake? You kinda disappeared and I wondered what had happened to you and your son.

Jim
N46JP - Q200

Sent from Outer Space


From: main@Q-List.groups.io <main@Q-List.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 5, 2020 9:00:06 AM
To: main@q-list.groups.io <main@q-list.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [Q-List] Covid19
 
Ron,

Fat, dumb and happy. 

Sam 

On Sun, Apr 5, 2020, 10:45 AM Ron Triano <rondefly@...> wrote:
Hi Sam, hope your doing ok, I am well and gave my Q to my son, it sits in the hangar at TVA

Ron. Triano. KI6VEY

On Apr 5, 2020, at 5:24 AM, Sam Hoskins <sam.hoskins@...> wrote:


I just found out that someone I knew from back in the late 1960s has passed away yesterday from COVID-19. So, that's the first, and I hope the only, person I know has been hit. 

Sam 

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 12:48 PM Jim Patillo <Logistics_engineering@...> wrote:

Thank you for the continuing replies guys. Here in Placer County, (roughly Sacramento to Lake Tahoe)
we have 97 reported cases/2 deaths. In Alameda County ( our other residence) there are 367 reported cases/12 deaths.  This is of 10:00 am April 4  

Keith really sorry to hear about your friends. 

Jim
N46JP - Q200

 


Re: Covid19

Drhyed@...
 

My wife is a RN and deals with this everyday at work so I’ll throw my dime store opinion and also my experience.

About 2.5 weeks ago and 3 days after my wife’s first confirmed exposure at work I developed a 101.5 fever and a dry cough, so off the the ER I went. After a complete day of getting the run a round (they couldn’t figure out how to get authorization to test, I sat in what they said was an isolation room for 3 hours but turned out was just a closed off area of the hospital and I was “missing”... it was a day) I did end up getting tested, I am on 3 immunosuppressants and was considered high risk, that’s the only reason I was tested vs kicked back home to isolation with no test. I was also “read the riot act” and signed papers from the county health commission stating I couldn’t leave my house for 2 weeks, could face arrest if I did and given a lot of other restrictions ect ect. BUT I was also told they (the county health commission) would check in every 24-48 hours and notify me in 5-7 days with my result. Ultimately I NEVER heard a word from the health commission, and when I called them I 3 different times I could not get a live person on the phone. I only got my (thankfully negative) result from lab corp via a back channel hook up 10 days later. So to me the numbers of reported cases are VERY VERY suspect.

Next, at least where my wife works, there is a steady flow of suspected cases where people are admitted with respiratory distress of some type (bacterial pneumonia, pulmonary fibrosis ect) and within 12-24 hours are intubated and on a respirator and pass shorty after. They never get or had been tested but the physical signs clearly point to known covid type symptoms. And these are people in their 20’s-30’s-40’s as well as older. As far as my wife or her co-workers can tell these types of cases never officially get reported as covid deaths.

I wouldn’t get fixated on numbers either way or get in a hurry tallying up the numbers or counting who has what, yes the world has gotten obsessed with instant gratification in the last 20 years but virus doesn’t spread that way. Most people walking around with it won’t know what hit them for several more days yet.

Jay

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